Supreme Court just ruled that half of OK is still Rez.

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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a large chunk of eastern Oklahoma remains an American Indian reservation, a decision that state and federal officials have warned could throw Oklahoma into chaos.

The court's 5-4 decision, written by Justice Neil Gorsuch, means that Oklahoma prosecutors lack the authority to pursue criminal cases against American Indian defendants in parts of Oklahoma that include most of Tulsa, the second-largest city.

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/supreme-court-hands-oklahoma-a-loss-on-tribal-lands-fight/article_4c33fbe8-c1ed-11ea-8c16-2705dc65414a.html

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,868]

Both Norman and Stillwater are in counties just outside of the boundaries. 

Edited July 9, 2020 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[mchookem 16,408]

this seems significant. is this significant?

[elfenix 34,338]

fucking carole baskins

[Dnaguy 12,104]

1 minute ago, mchookem said:

this seems significant. is this significant?

I think we should reserve judgement.

But considering that this was a Supreme Court ruling, it can't be appealed to a heya court.

I'm actually red in the face that I can't give you a better answer.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,868]

Congrats to all you attorneys about to become very wealthy in all the subsequent litigation. Oil and gas royalties suits will be filed shortly.

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Could throw a wrench into Snyder's plan to relocate his team to OKC.  Poor countries about to get a bunch of OK Methskins tshirts.

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Also means a lot more standing in line, now that they've outlawed taking reservations.

[gmr548 16,617]

Also in the majority:

"While only a portion of the state is considered a reservation, this court makes clear that all of it still sucks, especially its 'flagship' university."

[SimonBolivar 10,960]

So...I assume this means we'll be seeing all these casinos now offering weed and hookers as long as we claim we're American Indian?

[AUS-97HORN 11,824]

welp its official... even the supreme court thinks ou fucking sucks to live in.

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3,868]

As more details of the ruling come out, it only applies to Native Americans in criminal cases in this territory.

[elfenix 34,338]

13 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

As more details of the ruling come out, it only applies to Native Americans in criminal cases in this territory.

 

[DaggerHorns 3,102]

Still plenty of land to gobble dicks on...

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29 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

As more details of the ruling come out, it only applies to Native Americans in criminal cases in this territory.

Yeah, that's called a slippery slope.

[crash_davis 23,115]

37 minutes ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

As more details of the ruling come out, it only applies to Native Americans in criminal cases in this territory.

So NAs are immune to prosecution from US and State laws in their territory but do NOT have claim on the wealth produced from said territory which is "their" territory?

[TwiceHorn 31,554]

9 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

So NAs are immune to prosecution from US and State laws in their territory but do NOT have claim on the wealth produced from said territory which is "their" territory?

Immune from prosecution by the state.  The federal government has a quite active apparatus for prosecuting NAs in federal court.

SCOTUS only answered the question in the context of criminal jurisdiction.  The rest remains open to resolution.

Edited July 9, 2020 by TwiceHorn

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Edit:  Quick draw TwiceHorn beat me to it.

 

BTW, one of the cases involved a man sodomizing his 4-year old step-granddaughter.

Edited July 9, 2020 by clapclapclap

[crash_davis 23,115]

3 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

BTW, one of the cases involved a man sodomizing his 4-year old step-granddaughter.

Did his name translate to He Who Fucks Family Members?

[TwiceHorn 31,554]

4 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Edit:  Quick draw TwiceHorn beat me to it.

 

BTW, one of the cases involved a man sodomizing his 4-year old step-granddaughter.

The feds probably have a stiffer penalty, too.  And no parole.

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The feds probably have a stiffer penalty, too.   .

But not for the other case.  Another guy given the death penalty for mutilating and then letting his victim bleed to death won't face the DP in a fed prosecution.

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by clapclapclap

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

Well this is just delightful 

[Dnaguy 12,104]

30 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

Edit:  Quick draw TwiceHorn beat me to it.

 

BTW, one of the cases involved a man sodomizing his 4-year old step-granddaughter.

[DaggerHorns 3,102]

There’s nothing to see here.

This is just a regular case of Indian-giving.

[gmr548 16,617]

Edit:  Quick draw TwiceHorn beat me to it.
 
BTW, one of the cases involved a man sodomizing his 4-year old step-granddaughter.

Because Oklahoma.

[atomheartbevo 89,824]

2 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

So...I assume this means we'll be seeing all these casinos now offering weed and hookers as long as we claim we're American Indian?

I'm a card-carrying member of the Cherokee Nation, and they don't offer me weed and hookers at the casinos.

[atomheartbevo 89,824]

2 hours ago, ShaggyBevo RIP said:

As more details of the ruling come out, it only applies to Native Americans in criminal cases in this territory.

1. Card-carrying member of the Cherokee Nation - check
2. Cousins who live in Eastern Oklahoma (and a few even live on the same land our great-great and great-great-great grandparents got from the original Cherokee land allotments) - check

Fuck yes.  Only problem is I have to make it to that part of Oklahoma.  And I have to deal with being in Oklahoma.

[SimonBolivar 10,960]

5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm a card-carrying member of the Cherokee Nation, and they don't offer me weed and hookers at the casinos.

Yet.

Edited July 9, 2020 by SimonBolivar

[atomheartbevo 89,824]

2 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

Yet.

[workswithseed 2,119]

So what other states will now be territories?

[Royalfan5 2,355]

So 2 men and 3 women dressed in black gave some of it back?

Edited July 9, 2020 by Royalfan5

[Neonmoon 38,130]

If this slippery slides into oil and gas mineral rights. Holy shit. 
 

note to self: start a title business in eastern OK

Edited July 9, 2020 by Neonmoon

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2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

So what other states will now be territories?

The Dakotas would be a good start. 

[Gil Bang 26,048]

will their congressional representation remain the same?   Seems like if the reservation isn't part of the USA, then the population shouldn't count for congress or electoral votes.

[El Diablo 4,232]

 

[Royalfan5 2,355]

31 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

will their congressional representation remain the same?   Seems like if the reservation isn't part of the USA, then the population shouldn't count for congress or electoral votes.

Well the other half of Oklahoma shouldn’t count either but here we are 

[VolenteHawk 495]

If they didn’t adequately pilfer the whole state, the Sooner name needs to go. Offensive to proper criminals.

[atomheartbevo 89,824]

1 hour ago, Gil Bang said:

will their congressional representation remain the same?   Seems like if the reservation isn't part of the USA, then the population shouldn't count for congress or electoral votes.

One of those fuckers was involved in selling off a bunch of stock after he got a classified covid briefing, so this is a good starting point.

[Enchubben 5,512]

This is directly from the supreme court opinion:

"Finally, the State worries that our decision will have significant consequences for civil and regulatory law. The only question before us, however, concerns the statutory definition of “Indian country” as it applies in federal criminal law under the MCA, and often nothing requires other civil statutes or regulations to rely on definitions found in the criminal law"