Mr. Tuberville goads to Washington

[pyrohornIII 4,809]

Reminiscent of Ted Cruz and his blocking of diplomatic appointments.   Anything to slow things down and grab some attention.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,844]

3 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

Reminiscent of Ted Cruz and his blocking of diplomatic appointments.   Anything to slow things down and grab some attention.

except this undermines our military. he is purposely weakening this country. intentionally. for petty grievances. it's fucking insane

[wildcat09 29,266]

He's not doing it for petty grievances, he's doing it so Trump can appoint more officers who they think will help him carry out a coup to remain in office beyond 2028.

[RDCanecutter 26,290]

RE Isbell and the TVA song: Birmingham is Tuberville's territory the same way Austin is Cruz country. As in, sure, maybe, technically, under duress.

 

It occurred to me that going after Tubs has no effect on anything. He's a drifter, no roots, will climb out the restaurant window to run hide and count his money.

The one you want to go after is his fellow Senator Katie Britt, she of the Junior-Miss affect from down in the Wiregrass where Ft. Rucker sits. She annoys me but I bet what the local people think down there matters to her. Take one (1) helicopter from Rucker, publicly send it somewhere else like Benning. She is Florida-adjacent so she'd go straight to the bath salts and Tubs would be walking around all stunned with what's left of his face bandaged up.

Edited July 11, 2023 by RDCanecutter

[Pato del Muerto 52,342]

1 minute ago, RDCanecutter said:

Birmingham is Tuberville's territory the same way Austin is Cruz country. As in, sure, maybe, technically, under duress.

 

It occurred to me that going after Tubs has no effect on anything. He's a drifter, no roots, will climb out the restaurant window to run hide and count his money.

The one you want to go after is his fellow Senator Katie Britt, she of the Junior-Miss affect from down in the Wiregrass where Ft. Rucker sits. She annoys me but I bet what the local people think down there matters to her. Take one (1) helicopter from Rucker, publicly send it somewhere else like Benning. She is Florida-adjacent so she'd go straight to the bath salts and Tubs would be walking around all stunned with what's left of his face bandaged up.

Ok let’s do that

[Ten Bears 2,479]

On 6/27/2023 at 9:22 PM, RDCanecutter said:

The vampires would suck the life out of him. I say keep him far away.

You ain't never going to change are you?

[RDCanecutter 26,290]

42 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

You ain't never going to change are you?

You won't catch me in Kendale with a bucket of wealthy man's paint.

[4th&Five 41,461]

Both parties are the same though...

 

[Gil Bang 25,899]

Jason don't give a fuck. 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,844]

13 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Jason don't give a fuck. 

 

not in the least

[tx ind 7,003]

This sums it up pretty well 

 

[956 Worldwide 34,456]

On 7/11/2023 at 7:13 PM, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

except this undermines our military. he is purposely weakening this country. intentionally. for petty grievances. it's fucking insane

It weakens our country to leave ambassadorial positions vacant for months and years at a time.  Diplomacy and the military are tools of statecraft that advance our own security and interests by working both separately and in tandem. Cruz was smart enough to choose to blunt the tool fewer people know about or understand, but it still has a profound negative effect on our effectiveness and national security. 

[Horn Dog 9,674]

Pardon the ignorant question but what exactly is stopping the Senate Dems from using their majority to change the unanimous consent rule to say something like it now requires 25 senators objecting to blanket pass military promotions/raises/appointments?   Is this all a decorum issue and hoping things go back to 1975?  You goddamn know the repubs would have changed the rules within 24hrs of a dem senator pulling this shit? 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,415]

When running for senator in 2020, Tuberville ($20m net worth) pledged that every dime that he made in DC as senator would be donated to our fine military personnel, presumably active or retired.  Since being elected, he’s earned >400k as a senator, and he’s perhaps donated a few thousand and even that appears to be anecdotal.  His staff readily agrees that he hasn’t donated his pledge, so it’s not like he's secretly donating the money.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/tommy-tuberville-veterans-fact-checker/

During his pledge he didn’t lay out a time line for the donations, but it would safe to assume that he should be donating the money at least annually.

another annoying part of this article is that even his senatorial staff refer to him as Coach. 

[RDCanecutter 26,290]

I was hoping by now that he'd have broken his contract and gone off to be senator of another country.

[Gil Bang 25,899]

Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) has drawn the ire of the U.S. military this year by consistently blocking routine military appointments requiring Senate approval in a relentless protest against Defense Department policies on abortion. He’s also been criticized for seemingly being confused about whether white nationalists in the armed forces are racist.

Now it seems Tuberville may have been in a muddle about his own father’s service during World War II. On Tuesday, a Washington Post analysis of claims the senator made about his dad, Charles R. Tuberville Jr., found that some of his assertions don’t quite add up.

Broadly speaking, Tuberville has repeatedly characterized his father as someone who lied about his age to join the U.S. Army and then went on to become a tank commander on D-Day, earning an incredible five Bronze Stars throughout the course of his service during the war.

While there’s no question that Tuberville’s father really did take part in combat during the conflict, including at the Battle of the Bulge, some specifics that Tuberville has mentioned about his father are in some cases doubtful and in others outright false, according to the Post.

 

The clearest example appears to be the assertion that Charles Tuberville signed up at the age of 16. In fact, he turned 16 months before the U.S. entered the war in the wake of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and his draft card shows that it was actually submitted on his 18th birthday on July 16, 1943, the Post reports. Steven Stafford, Sen. Tuberville’s communications director, did not respond to the newspaper’s questions about the claim.

The newspaper also deemed Tuberville’s assertion that his father was a “tank commander” “dubious.” Charles Tuberville’s tombstone lists his highest rank as a technician fifth grade or “TEC 5,” an Army rank that signified technical skills but not combat leadership. It could be the case that he may have been given the command of a tank at some point during the war, according to the Post, but it seems unlikely that would have been the case on D-Day, as a Feb. 7, 1945, news report—the year after the landings at Normandy—said he had been promoted to corporal.

It is certainly feasible that Charles Tuberville did take part in D-Day as a member of 746th Tank Battalion (A Company). But the company connected with the 101st Airborne Division in the days after the landing, making Sen. Tuberville’s claim he was a commander “with the 101st Infantry” incorrect.

That Charles Tuberville was awarded a Purple Heart is also definitely true. The further claim that he was awarded a whopping five Bronze Stars, however, is not. The award is given to a soldier who has “distinguished himself or herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service” in combat. Stafford showed the Post a photo of a snippet of Charles Tuberville’s “report of separation” from the Army which makes reference to him being “awarded 5 Bronze stars.” But the Post says the record indicates he received Bronze service stars, which simply mean that a soldier was present during a particular military engagement or campaign and are not awarded for valor in combat.

The paper also found that Sen. Tuberville’s claim that his father “drove a tank through the streets of Paris when the U.S. forces liberated the city” could not have happened, as the 746th Tank Battalion was about 90 miles northeast of Paris on Aug. 29, 1944, when the Army’s 28th Infantry Division marched down the Champs-Elysées.

 

[tx 3 putt 76,419]

On 7/11/2023 at 6:12 AM, Neonmoon said:

The majority of his voter base is white nationalists 

100% this

[RDCanecutter 26,290]

52 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) has drawn the ire of the U.S. military this year by consistently blocking routine military appointments requiring Senate approval in a relentless protest against Defense Department policies on abortion. He’s also been criticized for seemingly being confused about whether white nationalists in the armed forces are racist.

Now it seems Tuberville may have been in a muddle about his own father’s service during World War II. On Tuesday, a Washington Post analysis of claims the senator made about his dad, Charles R. Tuberville Jr., found that some of his assertions don’t quite add up.

Broadly speaking, Tuberville has repeatedly characterized his father as someone who lied about his age to join the U.S. Army and then went on to become a tank commander on D-Day, earning an incredible five Bronze Stars throughout the course of his service during the war.

While there’s no question that Tuberville’s father really did take part in combat during the conflict, including at the Battle of the Bulge, some specifics that Tuberville has mentioned about his father are in some cases doubtful and in others outright false, according to the Post.

 

The clearest example appears to be the assertion that Charles Tuberville signed up at the age of 16. In fact, he turned 16 months before the U.S. entered the war in the wake of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and his draft card shows that it was actually submitted on his 18th birthday on July 16, 1943, the Post reports. Steven Stafford, Sen. Tuberville’s communications director, did not respond to the newspaper’s questions about the claim.

The newspaper also deemed Tuberville’s assertion that his father was a “tank commander” “dubious.” Charles Tuberville’s tombstone lists his highest rank as a technician fifth grade or “TEC 5,” an Army rank that signified technical skills but not combat leadership. It could be the case that he may have been given the command of a tank at some point during the war, according to the Post, but it seems unlikely that would have been the case on D-Day, as a Feb. 7, 1945, news report—the year after the landings at Normandy—said he had been promoted to corporal.

It is certainly feasible that Charles Tuberville did take part in D-Day as a member of 746th Tank Battalion (A Company). But the company connected with the 101st Airborne Division in the days after the landing, making Sen. Tuberville’s claim he was a commander “with the 101st Infantry” incorrect.

That Charles Tuberville was awarded a Purple Heart is also definitely true. The further claim that he was awarded a whopping five Bronze Stars, however, is not. The award is given to a soldier who has “distinguished himself or herself by heroic or meritorious achievement or service” in combat. Stafford showed the Post a photo of a snippet of Charles Tuberville’s “report of separation” from the Army which makes reference to him being “awarded 5 Bronze stars.” But the Post says the record indicates he received Bronze service stars, which simply mean that a soldier was present during a particular military engagement or campaign and are not awarded for valor in combat.

The paper also found that Sen. Tuberville’s claim that his father “drove a tank through the streets of Paris when the U.S. forces liberated the city” could not have happened, as the 746th Tank Battalion was about 90 miles northeast of Paris on Aug. 29, 1944, when the Army’s 28th Infantry Division marched down the Champs-Elysées.

 

There's no kill shot in any of that. They need to go right to the nekkit pictures of Tubs with a greased-up Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

[TwiceHorn 31,302]

I am sad to report that I am virtually certain that my mother attended high school with Tuberville's father.

Given that no one on her side of the family ever mentioned him or his spawn, even after the spawn attained relative fame, I'm guessing he was peter whisky tango.

[TheStoicPaisano 9,904]

Well done corch.

 

[Pescado_Rojo 19,332]

4 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Well done corch.

 

Puttin people on the moon  Unemployment line. 

[Gil Bang 25,899]

Fuck yeah Joe!

[gyroprotagonist 2,591]

just want to come to this thread and vent.  Fuck this dude for screwing with sooo many people, families, paychecks, military readiness etc... because he wants to flex on women's reproductive systems and take even more money out of families' pockets that might need to travel because so many of our states are too fucked up to give citizens autonomy over their bodies.

 

[Js1 85,122]

19 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Well done corch.

 

Of course you have to keep Space Command in Colorado, that’s where the Stargate is 

[Degenerate Gardner 4,081]

I hope this doesn’t hurt Biden’s chances in Alabama.

[tx 3 putt 76,419]

Is he holding all this up with the hopes that trump gets re elected and can appoint officers loyal to trump ?

[Horn Dog 9,674]

[RDCanecutter 26,290]

Doug Jones wouldn't have lost Space Force. But had Jones been reelected, Trump never would have picked Alabama. 

[Degenerate Gardner 4,081]

5 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Doug Jones wouldn't have lost Space Force. But had Jones been reelected, Trump never would have picked Alabama. 

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[Nivek 16,864]

Republicans hate the military and love to cut their benefits as much as possible and so many members of the military love them for it. 

[Degenerate Gardner 4,081]

It’s a political miscalculus by a guy who couldn’t do simple math.

[Gil Bang 25,899]

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[burntorangebongos 10,681]

niiiiice

[wildcat09 29,266]

13 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Is he holding all this up with the hopes that trump gets re elected and can appoint officers loyal to trump ?

Yes.

[atomheartbevo 89,456]

14 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Is he holding all this up with the hopes that trump gets re elected and can appoint officers loyal to trump ?

I’ve seen that being floated, but Occam’s Razor:

11 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

It’s a political miscalculus by a guy who couldn’t do simple math.

Yeah, he doesn’t want to admit that he’s wrong for doing this, and that those officers have nothing to do with the abortion policy. The longer this goes, the more legislators will turn against him.

Nothing he’s done makes me think he’s capable of a long game.

[C-Man 27,068]

25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’ve seen that being floated, but Occam’s Razor:

Yeah, he doesn’t want to admit that he’s wrong for doing this, and that those officers have nothing to do with the abortion policy. The longer this goes, the more legislators will turn against him.

Nothing he’s done makes me think he’s capable of a long game.

So he's single-handedly able to do this on his own or are there other Republicans standing with him on this situation with his as the "leader" (LOL)? I haven't gotten too much past the Tuberville is out-of-his-element-Donny territory on this and I feel like even Republicans are frustrated by his tactics at this point but maybe not enough.

[tx 3 putt 76,419]

Make the full senate approve these promotions . It would tie them up for a month 

[Grade of D as in David 13,253]

34 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’ve seen that being floated, but Occam’s Razor:

Yeah, he doesn’t want to admit that he’s wrong for doing this, and that those officers have nothing to do with the abortion policy. The longer this goes, the more legislators will turn against him.

Nothing he’s done makes me think he’s capable of a long game.

If he was capable of a short game he would still be working on Saturdays 

[wildcat09 29,266]

34 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I’ve seen that being floated, but Occam’s Razor:

Yeah, he doesn’t want to admit that he’s wrong for doing this, and that those officers have nothing to do with the abortion policy. The longer this goes, the more legislators will turn against him.

Nothing he’s done makes me think he’s capable of a long game.

Tuberville was with Trump on January 5, 2021, helping him plan the insurrection. Trump called him the next day to try to get him to stall the electoral vote count when Trump saw his fans storming the capitol. He's a moron, yes, but he's not some innocent dumbass who hasn't ever been involved in Trump's crimes before.  

It doesn't take a genius to think "hey, we didn't have military support last time, but if we don't allow Biden to appoint new officers maybe we can appoint some who are loyal to us." It's not fucking 8d chess, hell it's not even chess. The dumbest people in the history of the world are capable of having that idea, because everyone knows that it helps to have the military's support if you're going to attempt a coup.

[hornmpa96 2,598]

58 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Make the full senate approve these promotions . It would tie them up for a month 

They aren’t accomplishing anything else in that time. Take away their ridiculous August recess to get this done.

[Horn Dog 9,674]

1 hour ago, hornmpa96 said:

They aren’t accomplishing anything else in that time. Take away their ridiculous August recess to get this done.

Unfortunately Shummer is a puss, like almost every Dem.  If Shummer had balls he would say....  Well guys because of  Senator Tommy and the GOP's inability to control him, there will be no breaks at all.  No summer recess, no Thanksgiving, No Christmas, No nothing.   Emergency session after emergency sessions to pass these appointments till they are all done.  If you guys don't like it, talk to Tommy. 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Horn Dog

[hornmpa96 2,598]

[C-Man 27,068]

5 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

Unfortunately Shummer is a puss, like almost every Dem.  If Shummer had balls he would say....  Well guys because of  Senator Tommy and the GOP's inability to control him, there will be no breaks at all.  No summer recess, no Thanksgiving, No Christmas, No nothing.   Emergency session after emergency sessions to pass these appointments till they are all done.  If you guys don't like it, talk to Tommy. 

Schumer wants his vacay too!

[Pam Cummings 9,585]

2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Tuberville was with Trump on January 5, 2021, helping him plan the insurrection. Trump called him the next day to try to get him to stall the electoral vote count when Trump saw his fans storming the capitol. He's a moron, yes, but he's not some innocent dumbass who hasn't ever been involved in Trump's crimes before.  

It doesn't take a genius to think "hey, we didn't have military support last time, but if we don't allow Biden to appoint new officers maybe we can appoint some who are loyal to us." It's not fucking 8d chess, hell it's not even chess. The dumbest people in the history of the world are capable of having that idea, because everyone knows that it helps to have the military's support if you're going to attempt a coup.

It's almost as if Shitbox Tommy is just doing exactly as he's told by his foreign handlers, like he's a foreign agent or something with no loyalty to the United States or it's citizens.

[Bateshorn 9,907]

20 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Well done corch.

 

See, Tommy, if you FAFO in a mirror three times, you summon Gritty.

[TexasEd 8,064]

21 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

Unfortunately Shummer is a puss, like almost every Dem.  If Shummer had balls he would say....  Well guys because of  Senator Tommy and the GOP's inability to control him, there will be no breaks at all.  No summer recess, no Thanksgiving, No Christmas, No nothing.   Emergency session after emergency sessions to pass these appointments till they are all done.  If you guys don't like it, talk to Tommy. 

It’s actually a matter of National Security. This wouldn’t be to pass a pet program or divert taxes to private businesses. This is a Constitutional duty of the Senate and not doing it impacts military readiness and national security. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,415]

as far as Space Command being in Colorado perhaps Tuberville/Trump can draw a on map showing how it's really apart of Alabama.

[kevwun 15,659]

Colorado is closer to space so they're saving on fuel costs.  It's fiscally responsible.

Edited August 2, 2023 by kevwun

[Horn Dog 9,674]

What exactly is stopping the Dems from passing, on a strict 51% majority vote, a change to "unanimous consent" Senate rules to say that 10-15 objecting senators are now needed to block batch military appointments ? 

[elfenix 34,182]

Just the Democrat party and its war on Christmas