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You’d think with all the CEOs aggy brags about putting out, they’d be lining up which company checks in hand. 
 

then you remember that owning an insurance franchise doesn’t mean you get to market it- that’s corporate and they prefer JK Simmons and Dennis haysbert and mayhem. 

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  On 7/22/2022 at 5:10 PM, Burt Macklin said:

 

Actually now that I say that, it sounds exactly like something aggy would do. 

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It'd almost be impressive if the aggies did something so dumb that the dumbness went full circle and actually benefited them with one player to the detriment of the handful of players they signed last year. That's elite dumb. 

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  On 7/22/2022 at 6:05 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

You’d think with all the CEOs aggy brags about putting out, they’d be lining up which company checks in hand. 
 

then you remember that owning an insurance franchise doesn’t mean you get to market it- that’s corporate and they prefer JK Simmons and Dennis haysbert and mayhem. 

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I think that for them, ultimately it is taking $$$ out of the pocket of the Athletic Dept and into other areas. You have to have the corporate groups locally willing to pay, and at the end of the day there are fewer of those in B-CS than Austin.

Matador Club dudes have money to burn and want TTU to be successful. At least Texas has a plan on getting to a real dollar amount per player on the team - but for those who don't, if you are picking between say Baylor, TCU, TTU and OK St and TTU has $25k per player per year - that's something worth considering. At this point if you are a late blooming 3* OL who has an offer from TTU, who was your first P5 offer, or a late offer from A&M - you have to think about it more than you used to.

Meanwhile, we hear *crickets* from the A&M side regarding NIL, at all, outside of their announcement of "The Fund" (which is a fucking terrible name in a sea of terrible names - and there are some bad ones out there, here is a list.) As far as I know there is NO posting of the names behind it, no website, no goals, no nothing. They say they feel that word of mouth will be enough.

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Investors in The Fund at Texas A&M don’t understand why investors in other collectives feel the need to advertise those collectives. None in the Texas A&M-adjacent group would speak on the record, though several shared working details of the operation with The Athletic. As far as publicity, they feel word-of-mouth between recruits and players will be plenty to ensure the people they’ll work with know what is available.

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doesn't sound like they are doing much to help educate players:

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Organizers of The Fund also worry about how the players will handle the money. That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS. There was some trepidation about providing a payment so close to the May 1 deadline to enter the NCAA transfer portal and play somewhere else the following season, but ultimately the collective decided helping to keep its favorite team’s players on Uncle Sam’s good side superseded any concerns about those players transferring.

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they do a bad job of marketing internally to players, and explaining how things work:

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Understanding all aspects of these arrangements remains a work in progress as everyone learns about a system that didn’t exist a year ago. For instance, one current Texas A&M Football player who has a deal with The Fund that includes all of his NIL rights recently made an appearance and then asked the business owner when he would be paid. After a few confused phone calls, an organizer of The Fund explained to the player that he would be paid by the LLC on an agreed-upon schedule and that the money for each individual appearance would go directly to the LLC. A current player also had a large marketing agency representing him for NIL deals before deciding to sign a deal with The Fund for a marketing guarantee. Instead of elbowing out the large agency, organizers of The Fund decided to allow the player’s agent to continue representing him provided all revenue from any deals went through The Fund’s LLC — which would then pay the agent’s commission. Another reason for such deals? Most state laws forbid pay-for-play. Organizers of The Fund produce deals that will get approved by Texas A&M’s compliance department. This keeps players from striking individual deals that, for example, pay per touchdown or per tackle. Those wouldn’t be allowed under the law.

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the above quotes are from this Andy Staples article from April in The Athletic:

 

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small thing but in doing a few min research on this I have learned that Jimbo calls football "ball" and I truly hate it.

 

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Posted (edited)
  On 7/22/2022 at 7:17 PM, NoName said:

That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS

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Here’s what I’m reading-

they are paying most of the money in April of 23 for taxes due for 2022 so that the players have the cash to pay tax owed on money…mostly paid out in 2023?

 

eta you can always pay in early, but in that case it doesn’t matter when you get the money.  Except when you get it the following year. 

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  On 7/22/2022 at 5:08 PM, Vertigo said:

It is certainly a consideration that I think a lot of the recruits this cycle have. But, if Jimbo literally hands the guy a flashdrive or gives him a map to buried treasure somewhere in Hill's backyard, then future NIL stuff gets clouded over by what is in front of them. That being said, if Jimbo goes crazy and actually does hand him $500k in cash or something, then Texas needs to stress to Hill that we can match and/or exceed that ahead of that visit. 

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500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

 

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  On 7/22/2022 at 7:35 PM, SydneyCarton said:

500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! Maybe it's something more like 1.5. 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

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Counter-subconscious espionage, my friend

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  On 7/22/2022 at 7:35 PM, SydneyCarton said:

500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

 

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I was under the impression that the 750K paid to Nolan was over the course of his years there, not all up front. If that is true, then shit. Surely they wouldn't drop like $2 mil on the guy right? Right???

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  On 7/22/2022 at 9:25 PM, Vertigo said:

I was under the impression that the 750K paid to Nolan was over the course of his years there, not all up front. If that is true, then shit. Surely they wouldn't drop like $2 mil on the guy right? Right???

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No one knows how Nolan’s deal was structured. Here is what we do know: 

Bama bowed our early not wanting to deal with his shit.

The “impression” of Nolan’s deal was aTm boards crowing how they had figured out NIL and these deals were so smartly contracted over years and hidden LLCs, etc. After reading the idiocy from their boards, do you really want to base any “impression” you have on their “knowledge,” aka bragging? They don’t know shit and neither do we. But we DO know they THEY don’t know shit. 
 

We also know that Nolan’s father literally talked about payday 1, and payday 2 from the portal. See the point about Bama. That doesn’t sound like a guys who’s deal was structured over 4 years. 

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Yea, I don't need the blind speculation about specific numbers they spent. They were indeed crowing about how rich they were and smart they were with NIL in the same way I might crow about how I understand string theory so well that I can move a heavy rock.

It appears they moved the rock. Now they claim it was the magic of College Station's unsurpassed apartment complex swimming pools and the Aggie spirit that moved the rock. Also the NIL deals but they didn't really use NIL deals but everything's okay because Jimbo says they didn't use NIL on anybody which they think means no money changed hands, but if it did change hands, it was because the really smart Aggies got NIL figured before anyone! Oh, and Texas lost to Kansas last year.

It's easy to deduce they cheated. Their denials and multiple absurd explanations make the whole thing very amusing.

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  On 7/23/2022 at 12:11 AM, RomaVicta said:

Yea, I don't need the blind speculation about specific numbers they spent. They were indeed crowing about how rich they were and smart they were with NIL in the same way I might crow about how I understand string theory so well that I can move a heavy rock.

It appears they moved the rock. Now they claim it was the magic of College Station's unsurpassed apartment complex swimming pools and the Aggie spirit that moved the rock. Also the NIL deals but they didn't really use NIL deals but everything's okay because Jimbo says they didn't use NIL on anybody which they think means no money changed hands, but if it did change hands, it was because the really smart Aggies got NIL figured before anyone! Oh, and Texas lost to Kansas last year.

It's easy to deduce they cheated. Their denials and multiple absurd explanations make the whole thing very amusing.

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This was after Early Signing Day 2021, when Fisher was bragging about using NIL to pull in such a historic class. 

And now he doesn’t know anything about NIL.

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  On 7/23/2022 at 12:17 AM, Napoleon said:
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This is such a fucking stupid statement. NIL is not illegal, what Jimbo has done for most of his career has always been illegal. If Jimbo really believes that, aggy is really fucked.

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Checked the Rutgers board to see if they had anything on Bisontis.

(Yes, they actually have a board.)

In the Bisontis thread, of course I see this.

Lulz.

 

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  On 7/23/2022 at 2:26 AM, MH BEVO said:

The Twitter replies seem to favor MSU

 

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It would be amusing if he ended up picking MSU over aggy due to a chain reaction caused by us.  We get Kirkland from out of nowhere who had MSU as one of the favorites.  They get wind that they aren't getting Kirkland and go all in on Bisontis.

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  On 7/23/2022 at 5:04 AM, nunna yo bizness said:

It would be amusing if he ended up picking MSU over aggy due to a chain reaction caused by us.  We get Kirkland from out of nowhere who had MSU as one of the favorites.  They get wind that they aren't getting Kirkland and go all in on Bisontis.

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Yeah, that makes sense. They go all in on the borderline five star after the backup spurns them. 

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  On 7/23/2022 at 11:48 AM, Leanderman said:

Somebody just contact the IRS about the gomers NIL deals last year. A few audits and maybe an investigation or two should get the pigs out of the water and make it clear again.

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The IRS doesn’t give a fuck. They’ve been gutted from a personal perspective. They Don’t even go after people they know are cheating in their taxes because they don’t have the manpower. You think they’re going to start an investigation into this kind of shit?

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