Jimbo 2023: Watch.The.Tape.

[NoName 16407]

2 hours ago, texifornia said:

 

not even Jimbo believes that.

[closetojumping 62880]

59 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

It is certainly a consideration that I think a lot of the recruits this cycle have. But, if Jimbo literally hands the guy a flashdrive or gives him a map to buried treasure somewhere in Hill's backyard, then future NIL stuff gets clouded over by what is in front of them. That being said, if Jimbo goes crazy and actually does hand him $500k in cash or something, then Texas needs to stress to Hill that we can match and/or exceed that ahead of that visit. 

1) $500k ain't cutting it and that's not close to what I'm typing about on this one.

2) Texas isn't getting beaten by anybody because of NIL, but if those numbnuts post something up front that rivals anything ever done in the bag game, and that's the concern, that's a different thing altogether.

3) If all things are close to equal, he will not be picking ATM. 

56 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Sure if Jimbo pays him up front, but if the aggy rumors are true that they’re not following through on paying the 22 guys, then paying Hill a shitload up front would piss off their whole locker room. 
 

Actually now that I say that, it sounds exactly like something aggy would do. 

Since I've perpetuated some of that buzz, let me just update and say that there is validity to some of the buzz about the payouts, but there has been money that has changed hands for sure. It's not real clear what the short is and to whom, but there are ongoing issues. 

Part of the issue is apparently exactly what we've discussed as something that could logically happen - guys that did not get paid now want to know why. 

They're going to have issues if they're not ready to sort compensation out for a whole bunch of guys. Texas has faced NIL issues through the learning curve when it comes to key guys feeling right about their situation. I think every school is facing that. Ohio State for sure is another example. I'm guessing that right about now USC is having to put some work in for guys worth keeping.

The trick is, you have to have the money to make it make sense. Corporate density is and will remain key on that front. Part of how Bijan Robinson got comfortable was the Lambo deal, which wasn't a collective and is the purest kind of NIL use. I am guessing USC will find plenty of corporate support if they start winning. That's a much bigger problem for every program that isn't in a growth center like Austin or Columbus or a massive MSA like Los Angeles. 

Being the biggest city in the country without a big 4 professional team is going to be a massive fucking advantage for Texas. There is legitimate corporate appetite for UT players locally in part because they are some of the biggest celebrities in the entire region.

I'm seeing UH players landing real deal NIL work in Houston. Not aggies. It's interesting to see all of this develop in real time. 

Anyway, the other big thing for the aggies with what they've done is the overstack at some key positions. They have 15 guys thinking they should be starting in the opener on the DL and in the secondary for 8 positions. Every single one of them knows they can transfer to another big brand school and get paid or paid again if they don't like how the season goes. Not saying it's the worst problem to have. It's just a problem.

Edited July 22, 2022 by closetojumping

[Pato del Muerto 52610]

You’d think with all the CEOs aggy brags about putting out, they’d be lining up which company checks in hand. 
 

then you remember that owning an insurance franchise doesn’t mean you get to market it- that’s corporate and they prefer JK Simmons and Dennis haysbert and mayhem. 

[Chooky 13319]

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

 

Actually now that I say that, it sounds exactly like something aggy would do. 

It'd almost be impressive if the aggies did something so dumb that the dumbness went full circle and actually benefited them with one player to the detriment of the handful of players they signed last year. That's elite dumb. 

[texifornia 57154]

[texifornia 57154]

[TotallyLegit 3053]

1 minute ago, texifornia said:

[NoName 16407]

9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You’d think with all the CEOs aggy brags about putting out, they’d be lining up which company checks in hand. 
 

then you remember that owning an insurance franchise doesn’t mean you get to market it- that’s corporate and they prefer JK Simmons and Dennis haysbert and mayhem. 

I think that for them, ultimately it is taking $$$ out of the pocket of the Athletic Dept and into other areas. You have to have the corporate groups locally willing to pay, and at the end of the day there are fewer of those in B-CS than Austin.

Matador Club dudes have money to burn and want TTU to be successful. At least Texas has a plan on getting to a real dollar amount per player on the team - but for those who don't, if you are picking between say Baylor, TCU, TTU and OK St and TTU has $25k per player per year - that's something worth considering. At this point if you are a late blooming 3* OL who has an offer from TTU, who was your first P5 offer, or a late offer from A&M - you have to think about it more than you used to.

Meanwhile, we hear *crickets* from the A&M side regarding NIL, at all, outside of their announcement of "The Fund" (which is a fucking terrible name in a sea of terrible names - and there are some bad ones out there, here is a list.) As far as I know there is NO posting of the names behind it, no website, no goals, no nothing. They say they feel that word of mouth will be enough.

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Investors in The Fund at Texas A&M don’t understand why investors in other collectives feel the need to advertise those collectives. None in the Texas A&M-adjacent group would speak on the record, though several shared working details of the operation with The Athletic. As far as publicity, they feel word-of-mouth between recruits and players will be plenty to ensure the people they’ll work with know what is available.

doesn't sound like they are doing much to help educate players:

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Organizers of The Fund also worry about how the players will handle the money. That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS. There was some trepidation about providing a payment so close to the May 1 deadline to enter the NCAA transfer portal and play somewhere else the following season, but ultimately the collective decided helping to keep its favorite team’s players on Uncle Sam’s good side superseded any concerns about those players transferring.

they do a bad job of marketing internally to players, and explaining how things work:

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Understanding all aspects of these arrangements remains a work in progress as everyone learns about a system that didn’t exist a year ago. For instance, one current Texas A&M Football player who has a deal with The Fund that includes all of his NIL rights recently made an appearance and then asked the business owner when he would be paid. After a few confused phone calls, an organizer of The Fund explained to the player that he would be paid by the LLC on an agreed-upon schedule and that the money for each individual appearance would go directly to the LLC. A current player also had a large marketing agency representing him for NIL deals before deciding to sign a deal with The Fund for a marketing guarantee. Instead of elbowing out the large agency, organizers of The Fund decided to allow the player’s agent to continue representing him provided all revenue from any deals went through The Fund’s LLC — which would then pay the agent’s commission. Another reason for such deals? Most state laws forbid pay-for-play. Organizers of The Fund produce deals that will get approved by Texas A&M’s compliance department. This keeps players from striking individual deals that, for example, pay per touchdown or per tackle. Those wouldn’t be allowed under the law.

 

the above quotes are from this Andy Staples article from April in The Athletic:

 

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Texas A&M donors giving millions (for facilities and ‘The Fund’) with goal of dancing on Kyle Field for years to come

Andy Staples

Apr 27, 2022

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COLLEGE STATION, Texas — After dinner Friday night, they danced on Kyle Field.

This wasn’t like last Oct. 9, when they stayed in their suites and cheered while thousands of Texas A&M students spilled onto the field to celebrate Seth Small’s field goal that slayed Alabama. This time, the Aggies’ biggest athletics donors had the field to themselves. The Limelight Band of Emerald City, a Dallas-based group with a seriously hot horn section, blasted Earth, Wind & Fire’s “September” from a raised stage at midfield, and a group of millionaires shook their asses down below.

This evening kicked off the 12th Man Foundation’s Champions Council Weekend. These were the heaviest hitters in a moneyed fan base. Several had given eight figures in lifetime donations. At least one had made a $10 million pledge that, instead of paying over the customary five years, he made good on with a single wire transfer.

The 12th Man Foundation, Texas A&M athletics’ fundraising arm, had put together this weekend celebration to launch a new capital campaign, and that seemed as good a time as any to answer a question: In the age of name, image and likeness (NIL) deals, when college football players can essentially be paid for any reason (except, oddly, for being football players), will donors still give to the athletic department for facilities and other expenses?

The weekend certainly answered that question as far as the Aggies are concerned.

The “quiet phase” of the $120 million Centennial Campaign* — which will fund a 140-yard indoor football practice facility, a new academic and nutrition center for all athletes and a new indoor track — netted $88 million in pledges to be paid over several years. As of Friday night, the 12th Man Foundation already had $27 million of that in hand. Shovels can go into the ground immediately on a group of projects estimated to cost $235 million by the time they’re completed.

*The campaign gets its name because this year is the 100th anniversary of Texas A&M student E. King Gill — who served a spotter in the press box in the first half — standing ready in uniform for the second half of the Dixie Classic as the injury-ravaged Aggies upset favored Centre College. Gill’s willingness inspired the idea that the student body is the “12th man” for the Aggies.

But at the same time, some of the donors to the capital campaign met among themselves inside and away from the official program to discuss their roles as investors in what they, with tongues planted firmly in cheek, call “The Fund.” This is the marketing company — set up as a for-profit limited liability corporation — that manages NIL deals for Texas A&M athletes. In accordance with Texas law, it is not officially affiliated with the school or the athletic department. It is run by some of Texas A&M’s biggest donors, and as of Friday night, some of them were worried that they were falling behind the NIL collectives working on behalf of the rest of the big-money schools in the SEC.

Is that surprising?

Were you one of the people who believed an Oklahoma fan site message board poster (whose handle is slicedbread) when Mr. Bread declared that Texas A&M-adjacent groups spent $30 million on the 2022 recruiting class? Don’t worry. You weren’t alone. That post got aggregated on a site called BroBible.com, and lots of people believed it. A vice president at Notre Dame believed it.

Heck, some of Texas A&M’s current players believed it and asked coach Jimbo Fisher why they weren’t getting those kinds of deals. Fisher told them to call the recruits and ask what kind of deals they were actually getting.

“That would have been the dumbest business deal in the history of ball,” Fisher said of the rumor when speaking to the donor group Saturday morning at a presentation detailing the planned facilities.

The reason Fisher said that, Texas A&M administrators and donors explained, is if that amount of money was available, why wouldn’t the group simply try to equal or surpass the first-year NFL salaries of offensive lineman Kenyon Green and defensive lineman DeMarvin Leal to stay for another year? Blue-chip recruits are great, but they’re a gamble. First-team All-SEC performers are sure things. But even if the collective could have convinced Green or Leal — projected as first- or second-round picks in this week’s NFL Draft — to stay, it wouldn’t have had the funds to make that sort of deal.

Speaking to the donors, Fisher didn’t deny that NIL deals will be important going forward. “NIL is going to factor into the way you do business, and these kids need to develop and earn things,” Fisher said. “It’s not going to be the world we lived in.” But just as he has said multiple times since landing the 2022 class, Fisher insisted that NIL can’t be the only reason a player chooses a school if that school wants to have a successful football program. Just as NFL teams — who are about to pay some draftees large guaranteed amounts — spend much of the pre-draft process trying to determine if those potential draftees love football enough to keep trying to improve despite millions in the bank, Fisher pointed out that his job is to find players who want to win games whether they get paid or not.

“At the end of the day, understand something, the people who are only focused on NIL, I don’t want them,” Fisher said. “Because they’re never going to be able to be at the level of ball where you have to play if that’s the way they’re going to make decisions.”

Several investors in The Fund told The Athletic that while several members of the 2022 class did secure deals, the total numbers on the deals are in the low single-digit millions. Asked why they’d bother to correct an assumption that almost certainly would lead more recruits to consider Texas A&M, the answers were similar. They don’t want current players to feel shortchanged, and they don’t want future recruits to be disappointed when they learn the actual numbers. But make no mistake, they’re working to make those actual numbers larger.

 

Texas A&M coach Jimbo Fisher told donors that paying $30 million for a recruiting class “would have been the dumbest business deal in the history of ball.” (Vasha Hunt / USA Today)

A day before the gathering in College Station, a group working adjacent to Florida announced that donor Hugh Hathcock was leading the charge to fund an NIL collective. This group, called the Gator Guard, would be a select group of high-dollar donors supplementing the work of the Gator Collective, which had been working to land and fund NIL deals for Florida players. Hathcock also helped answer the question of whether big donors would choose giving to the athletic department or to the NIL collectives. His answer is a resounding “both.” Earlier this month, Florida’s athletic department announced that Hathcock had pledged the single largest donation ($12.6 million) in the history of Florida’s athletic department. Darren Heitner, a Florida graduate and attorney who advises the Gator Collective and Gator Guard, told The Athletic’s G. Allan Taylor last week that the Gator Guard group had raised $5 million in less than a week.

On Saturday, as the Texas A&M donors gathered to learn about the new facilities, former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer announced a Norman-based NIL collective called 1Oklahoma that will operate as a non-profit and pay Oklahoma athletes for doing work for other non-profits. According to a release announcing the collective, Oklahoma athletes can make between $40,000 and $50,000 a year partnering with 1Oklahoma.

Investors in The Fund at Texas A&M don’t understand why investors in other collectives feel the need to advertise those collectives. None in the Texas A&M-adjacent group would speak on the record, though several shared working details of the operation with The Athletic. As far as publicity, they feel word-of-mouth between recruits and players will be plenty to ensure the people they’ll work with know what is available.

 

On Saturday, former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer announced a Norman-based NIL collective called 1Oklahoma that also will operate as a non-profit. (Brian Bahr / Getty Images)

With various state NIL laws going into effect on July 1, 2021, the investors behind The Fund began designing the structure of the organization in May 2021. Originally, the plan was to operate almost strictly as an apparel/memorabilia company, making T-shirts and other player-branded items that could be sold to an adoring fan base. That didn’t last long. Eventually, the backers of The Fund came to the same conclusion that other for-profit collectives have. The most efficient way to handle players — and the easiest way to guarantee an amount of money — is to buy the players’ NIL rights entirely and then act as a marketing agency, making deals on behalf of the players and then using the proceeds from those deals to recoup the marketing guarantees made in the players’ contracts.

This is nearly identical to the way marketing agents have handled NFL-bound players for years. A player would finish college, and multiple marketing agencies would pitch the player on their ability to make that player money in exchange for a percentage of the revenue. Those pitches would include guaranteed amounts, with the agency assuming the risk of loss if it couldn’t book enough deals to cover the amount it guaranteed.

The same applies in the college NIL world. For example, the deal for the five-star class of 2023 recruit that Stewart Mandel outlined in The Athletic last month is structured this way. That deal could pay the player up to $8 million over a four-year period and includes several guaranteed payments at various dates within the deal. Should the collective book enough deals for the player to cover the amount of the guarantee, then the contract converts to a relatively standard split (90 percent for the player, 10 percent for the collective) for the remainder of the deal. If the collective doesn’t book enough deals, then it eats the loss. That player is believed to be Long Beach, Calif., quarterback Nico Iamaleava, who is committed to Tennessee. If he is indeed that player and Spyre Sports Group, the Knoxville-based collective operating as a marketing agency, wants to recoup its investment, then Iamaleava either will have to sell a lot of pajama pants or win Tennessee a bunch of games.

An administrator at a Power 5 school recently compared the philosophy behind such deals to the music business. A record company signs 100 artists hoping one turns out to be Tim McGraw. That deal then pays for the other 99 deals and generates a profit for the company.

But the win/loss piece is what makes the profit/loss math different for these collectives. Though multiple state laws forbid NIL deals as an inducement to choose a school, only the true Pollyannas thought that wouldn’t instantly happen as soon as such deals were allowed. Investors are willing for their collectives to operate at a loss as long as the arrangement produces wins on the field. Organizers across the country are split on how to set up the funds, though. The Oklahoma fund described above operates as a 501(c)(3) organization. So does a collective attached to Ohio State. Meanwhile, some who have organized their collectives as for-profit LLCs have expressed reservations about the non-profit model. They aren’t entirely sure the IRS ultimately will view such organizations as charitable entities. The LLC operators feel their investors can write off donations as business expenses because players can be hired to promote the investors’ businesses. Another possibility is that if a collective operates at a loss, it could provide a Schedule K-1 form to investors who then could claim their portion of the loss on their taxes.

The hope in College Station is that The Fund will generate enough money in promotional deals to cover any guarantees. But those investors, who didn’t get rich by being dumb, aren’t naive. “It’s going to need to be refilled every year,” said one person who has invested in The Fund and given to the recent capital campaign. “I’m not sure how many of these people understand that yet.”

Some of the meetings outside the festivities last weekend were aimed at helping potential investors understand just that. And as of early this week, the people organizing The Fund felt more confident that their fellow Aggies understood and were willing to keep giving.

Understanding all aspects of these arrangements remains a work in progress as everyone learns about a system that didn’t exist a year ago. For instance, one current Texas A&M Football player who has a deal with The Fund that includes all of his NIL rights recently made an appearance and then asked the business owner when he would be paid. After a few confused phone calls, an organizer of The Fund explained to the player that he would be paid by the LLC on an agreed-upon schedule and that the money for each individual appearance would go directly to the LLC. A current player also had a large marketing agency representing him for NIL deals before deciding to sign a deal with The Fund for a marketing guarantee. Instead of elbowing out the large agency, organizers of The Fund decided to allow the player’s agent to continue representing him provided all revenue from any deals went through The Fund’s LLC — which would then pay the agent’s commission. Another reason for such deals? Most state laws forbid pay-for-play. Organizers of The Fund produce deals that will get approved by Texas A&M’s compliance department. This keeps players from striking individual deals that, for example, pay per touchdown or per tackle. Those wouldn’t be allowed under the law.

Organizers of The Fund also worry about how the players will handle the money. That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS. There was some trepidation about providing a payment so close to the May 1 deadline to enter the NCAA transfer portal and play somewhere else the following season, but ultimately the collective decided helping to keep its favorite team’s players on Uncle Sam’s good side superseded any concerns about those players transferring.

The law — federal and state — is a constant refrain when discussing NIL. Schools in Oklahoma, for example, are afforded much more latitude to deal with NIL arrangements than schools in Texas. “The next phase of this is probably having to adjust the Texas law where perhaps maybe we can be more involved as an institution,” Texas A&M athletic director Ross Bjork told donors last weekend. “We can’t really advise on business terms. Is it a good deal or not? We can’t be involved in that. Does it follow the law or not is really all we can advise on.”

 

Jimbo Fisher (left) and Ross Bjork pose with the Orange Bowl trophy after defeating North Carolina 41-27 in 2021. “Right now, we’re embracing everything,” Bjork told donors this past weekend. “We’re embracing facilities, scholarships, NIL, sponsorship, season tickets.” (Michael Reaves / Getty Images)

Bjork would love a federal law that would standardize how schools across the country can handle NIL deals, but many of his peers aren’t optimistic that such a law will ever be passed. Bjork is much more optimistic, though, that Texas A&M’s donors will continue to give to the athletic department rather than redirect their money exclusively to an NIL collective. Some donors still would prefer to only give to the athletic department. Plenty seem willing to give both ways. “Right now, we’re embracing everything,” Bjork told donors. “We’re embracing facilities, scholarships, NIL, sponsorship, season tickets. Every business engagement, we have to embrace all of it.”

According to some of the athletic department’s fundraisers, the money didn’t really start rolling in for the capital campaign until it became apparent that Texas A&M was putting together the No. 1 recruiting class for the class of 2022. That’s what the group finds hilarious. The outside world thought NIL money alone bought Texas A&M a recruiting class. In reality, that class probably bought the Aggies a new indoor facility.

“If people were mad about Texas A&M and NIL before, wait until they hear about $88 million raised,” Bjork told the donors. “Wait until they hear about $235 million in facilities.”

small thing but in doing a few min research on this I have learned that Jimbo calls football "ball" and I truly hate it.

 

[Vermin 3060]

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That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS.

Taxes on money paid out in April 2023 are due in April 2024. You fucking morons have an accounting department.

[Pato del Muerto 52610]

5 minutes ago, NoName said:

That’s why several of the contracts are set up so that a substantial portion of the guarantee will be paid out in April 2023. Why? Because that’s when taxes are due, and it would ensure the player would have enough cash on hand to pay the IRS

Here’s what I’m reading-

they are paying most of the money in April of 23 for taxes due for 2022 so that the players have the cash to pay tax owed on money…mostly paid out in 2023?

 

eta you can always pay in early, but in that case it doesn’t matter when you get the money.  Except when you get it the following year. 

Edited July 22, 2022 by Pato del Muerto

[SydneyCarton 48200]

2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

It is certainly a consideration that I think a lot of the recruits this cycle have. But, if Jimbo literally hands the guy a flashdrive or gives him a map to buried treasure somewhere in Hill's backyard, then future NIL stuff gets clouded over by what is in front of them. That being said, if Jimbo goes crazy and actually does hand him $500k in cash or something, then Texas needs to stress to Hill that we can match and/or exceed that ahead of that visit. 

500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

 

Edited July 22, 2022 by SydneyCarton

[Gut Wagon 8087]

9 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! Maybe it's something more like 1.5. 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

Counter-subconscious espionage, my friend

[Deej 76944]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

I have learned that Jimbo calls football "ball" and I truly hate it.

Candi liked to ball. 

[Vertigo 20335]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

500k? Pffft. Walter Nolan *allegedly* got 850k or something. This is a MUST HAVE NATIONAL TITLE SECURING RECRUIT! 

The part in caps is what Jimbo will be sending out as the header in his super secret donor email. 

 

I was under the impression that the 750K paid to Nolan was over the course of his years there, not all up front. If that is true, then shit. Surely they wouldn't drop like $2 mil on the guy right? Right???

[SydneyCarton 48200]

2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

I was under the impression that the 750K paid to Nolan was over the course of his years there, not all up front. If that is true, then shit. Surely they wouldn't drop like $2 mil on the guy right? Right???

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No one knows how Nolan’s deal was structured. Here is what we do know: 

Bama bowed our early not wanting to deal with his shit.

The “impression” of Nolan’s deal was aTm boards crowing how they had figured out NIL and these deals were so smartly contracted over years and hidden LLCs, etc. After reading the idiocy from their boards, do you really want to base any “impression” you have on their “knowledge,” aka bragging? They don’t know shit and neither do we. But we DO know they THEY don’t know shit. 
 

We also know that Nolan’s father literally talked about payday 1, and payday 2 from the portal. See the point about Bama. That doesn’t sound like a guys who’s deal was structured over 4 years. 

[RomaVicta 30030]

Yea, I don't need the blind speculation about specific numbers they spent. They were indeed crowing about how rich they were and smart they were with NIL in the same way I might crow about how I understand string theory so well that I can move a heavy rock.

It appears they moved the rock. Now they claim it was the magic of College Station's unsurpassed apartment complex swimming pools and the Aggie spirit that moved the rock. Also the NIL deals but they didn't really use NIL deals but everything's okay because Jimbo says they didn't use NIL on anybody which they think means no money changed hands, but if it did change hands, it was because the really smart Aggies got NIL figured before anyone! Oh, and Texas lost to Kansas last year.

It's easy to deduce they cheated. Their denials and multiple absurd explanations make the whole thing very amusing.

[Napoleon 8700]

4 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Yea, I don't need the blind speculation about specific numbers they spent. They were indeed crowing about how rich they were and smart they were with NIL in the same way I might crow about how I understand string theory so well that I can move a heavy rock.

It appears they moved the rock. Now they claim it was the magic of College Station's unsurpassed apartment complex swimming pools and the Aggie spirit that moved the rock. Also the NIL deals but they didn't really use NIL deals but everything's okay because Jimbo says they didn't use NIL on anybody which they think means no money changed hands, but if it did change hands, it was because the really smart Aggies got NIL figured before anyone! Oh, and Texas lost to Kansas last year.

It's easy to deduce they cheated. Their denials and multiple absurd explanations make the whole thing very amusing.

This was after Early Signing Day 2021, when Fisher was bragging about using NIL to pull in such a historic class. 

And now he doesn’t know anything about NIL.

[HtownHorn 14786]

1 hour ago, Napoleon said:

This is such a fucking stupid statement. NIL is not illegal, what Jimbo has done for most of his career has always been illegal. If Jimbo really believes that, aggy is really fucked.

Edited July 23, 2022 by HtownHorn

[Elmer_Fudd 22325]

Chase Bisontis committing Sunday.

[MH BEVO 1265]

4 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Chase Bisontis committing Sunday.

The Twitter replies seem to favor MSU

 

[Elmer_Fudd 22325]

7 minutes ago, MH BEVO said:

The Twitter replies seem to favor MSU

 

Eh, Wiltfong made a comment in the thread about on the gig'em board and it got a lot of upvotes, so guessing it's aggy.

[Deej 76944]

Chase Bisontis;

[Teryor 4482]

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Eh, Wiltfong made a comment in the thread about on the gig'em board and it got a lot of upvotes, so guessing it's aggy.

[Getafix 28810]

 

Checked the Rutgers board to see if they had anything on Bisontis.

(Yes, they actually have a board.)

In the Bisontis thread, of course I see this.

Lulz.

 

 

[nunna yo bizness 1687]

2 hours ago, MH BEVO said:

The Twitter replies seem to favor MSU

 

It would be amusing if he ended up picking MSU over aggy due to a chain reaction caused by us.  We get Kirkland from out of nowhere who had MSU as one of the favorites.  They get wind that they aren't getting Kirkland and go all in on Bisontis.

[NorLa Horns 1458]

5 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

Checked the Rutgers board to see if they had anything on Bisontis.

(Yes, they actually have a board.)

In the Bisontis thread, of course I see this.

Lulz.

 

 

 

[SydneyCarton 48200]

5 hours ago, nunna yo bizness said:

It would be amusing if he ended up picking MSU over aggy due to a chain reaction caused by us.  We get Kirkland from out of nowhere who had MSU as one of the favorites.  They get wind that they aren't getting Kirkland and go all in on Bisontis.

Yeah, that makes sense. They go all in on the borderline five star after the backup spurns them. 

[Leanderman 2274]

Somebody just contact the IRS about the gomers NIL deals last year. A few audits and maybe an investigation or two should get the pigs out of the water and make it clear again.

[SydneyCarton 48200]

15 minutes ago, Leanderman said:

Somebody just contact the IRS about the gomers NIL deals last year. A few audits and maybe an investigation or two should get the pigs out of the water and make it clear again.

The IRS doesn’t give a fuck. They’ve been gutted from a personal perspective. They Don’t even go after people they know are cheating in their taxes because they don’t have the manpower. You think they’re going to start an investigation into this kind of shit?

[South Austin 52625]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

They Don’t even go after people they know are cheating in their taxes because they don’t have the manpower.

[Elmer_Fudd 22325]

Aggy picks coming in for Bisontis.  What does he project to?  Rivals and On3 have him as an interior OL.

[Wulaw Horn 19153]

7 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Aggy picks coming in for Bisontis.  What does he project to?  Rivals and On3 have him as an interior OL.

A sheep fucker. 

[JesusSweatDuck 17811]

10 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

A sheep fucker. 

Ewe

[UDontKnow 10450]

18 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Aggy picks coming in for Bisontis.  What does he project to?  Rivals and On3 have him as an interior OL.

My best guess would be a cube.

[Vermin 3060]

Top 100 player and his finalists are Michigan State and aggy? Does he have a few screws loose?

[RomaVicta 30030]

Wow. The power of the pool party cannot be denied!

Looks like they got their NIL figured out again. I wonder if chlorine masks the smell of panic.

[JesusSweatDuck 17811]

25 minutes ago, Vermin said:

Top 100 player and his finalists are Michigan State and aggy? Does he have a few screws loose?

Don't forget Rutgers 

[Longhornfrenzy 5853]

[MIkeHoncho 1931]

23 hours ago, NoName said:

small thing but in doing a few min research on this I have learned that Jimbo calls football "ball" and I truly hate it.

this x1000.  

[Vermin 3060]

Only 6 recruits coming, 2 of which are out of state.

So even if they all committed that’s only 11.

[Hank_Hill 18896]

11 minutes ago, Vermin said:

Only 6 recruits coming, 2 of which are out of state.

So even if they all committed that’s only 11.

Uhhhh they always have a 12th, stoopid sip.

[cochamps 1879]

19 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Uhhhh they always have a 12th, stoopid sip.

Uh, being alive is not always a requirement though.  So 11 commits may still be the max number.*

[Viper 12112]

Anyone else find it weird that there's two 8th graders going? 

[MAGS® 400]

I was wondering how lit can a party be with a freshman in highschool there....

[SHOOTER12 8833]

7 minutes ago, Viper said:

Anyone else find it weird that there's two 8th graders going? 

 

5 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

I was wondering how lit can a party be with a freshman in highschool there....

Weird even for desperate aggy.

[Vermin 3060]

15 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

I was wondering how lit can a party be with a freshman in highschool there....

How lit can a party be with all dudes?

[Mr. Mojo Risin' 2205]

16 minutes ago, Vermin said:

How lit can a party be with all dudes?

Probably bussed in some h-town strippers.  As short-sighted as that staff is I'm sure they forgot to sheer the local ladies...

 

[cafe society 2876]

1 hour ago, Viper said:

Anyone else find it weird that there's two 8th graders going? 

Oh yeah.  

[Hornlover 8842]

1 minute ago, cafe society said:

Oh yeah.  

[Post Oak 20277]

1 hour ago, Vermin said:

How lit can a party be with all dudes?