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Y’all really think Jimbo is gonna sit on the sidelines and watch as 2 men take turns doing the one thing he loves?

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4 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

These fucking idiots just don't want to believe that they looked like total shit at LB this year while we just developed a low 3* to one of the best in the nation and not to mention Overshown was better than anything they rolled out this year as well.

And what attractive DL?  Sure, it looked good on recruiting sites until they're getting pushed around to 200+ rushing yards a game.

Howell knows it's going to be Texas next week, he just doesn't want to flat out say it to delay the meltdown another week.

And let's not forget he did make 3rd team AP All-American, FWIW. 

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6 hours ago, cafe society said:

That's quite the home that comes with its own Stargate.  I mean, WTF, who built their house, Forever Legacy?

You know recruiting is in the shitter when 5 coaches show up at 1 recruits house. Hopefully one of them took a Warehime type shit in the master bath. 

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There’s a nonzero possibility that they were trying to keep Petrino warm as a candidate and he said no thanks.

They had very little leverage to begin with in negotiating this OC contract, but when you’re the last guy standing you’re pretty much going to be able to name your price. Riley at $6m for 3 years is normal aggy overspending, but that contract for some lame duck  retread is going to be hilarious.

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52 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

There’s a nonzero possibility that they were trying to keep Petrino warm as a candidate and he said no thanks.

They had very little leverage to begin with in negotiating this OC contract, but when you’re the last guy standing you’re pretty much going to be able to name your price. Riley at $6m for 3 years is normal aggy overspending, but that contract for some lame duck  retread is going to be hilarious.

Riley would be a dumbfuck if he went there for anything less than double whatever the highest paid OC currently makes.

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2 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I had to look up Derek Dooley. Why would he be a bad hire? Looks like he's done some good work along with a few failures.

Is it that he would be so far down anyone's list?

He has like 2 years of experience as a playcaller and Missouri's offense regressed big time with him as the playcaller. 

 

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19 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

I had to look up Derek Dooley. Why would he be a bad hire? Looks like he's done some good work along with a few failures.

Is it that he would be so far down anyone's list?

His offense meshes well with Jimbo's, in all the ways aggy should be looking to get away from.

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1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

IDK if really anything to it, but some posters on texags are throwing Derek Dooley's name out as an OC option.

Can't remember if it has been talked about here, but the rumor de jour has been Andy Ludwig, the Utah OC

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32 minutes ago, JBJ said:

His offense meshes well with Jimbo's, in all the ways aggy should be looking to get away from.

Dooley is the perfect hire because it's a name people know and he's so bad that Jimbo will be able to take play calling duties back.

His last name is the only reason he isn't selling insurance.

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5 minutes ago, Fud said:

No, but he should use the opportunity to at least get a raise from Utah 

Right, and my hope is that is exactly what is happening. I would expect any agent worth their salt would be floating interest in aggy to secure their client greater compensation.

At the same time, I can't imagine any P5 OC with even a modicum of success at their current school would actually take the position.

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1 minute ago, Revolution512 said:

That would be a very good get.

They were 18th in offensive EPA/play, which is good. Not sure how much of that you chalk up to this guy, or how much is the Utah football institution that's been built up over the past decade or two where most OCs have had some various level of positive success 

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That target list is a group of kids that just want to get paid as much as they can next year. They might get all of them due to desperation. Most of those kids have likely cut deals with several teams this year. I’m guessing most teams are willing to cut ties at this point. 

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56 minutes ago, Longhornfrenzy said:

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So they expect a visit from: Platt, a 4 star TE that they're trying to pick off from Stanford's turmoil; Tony Mitchell, a highly safety that they're recruiting as a CB, currently committed to Bama and seriously interested in Auburn as well; Caden Jones, a 3 star OT from Louisiana that is also considering UH and Florida; and Marcel Reed, a low 4 star QB whose ranking is driven by the sloth of Rivals. 

I would be impressed if they landed Mitchell. That would be a heaping bag of cash and would cause Saban to lose his shit. The other three guys are filler for the roster. The problem with taking filler is that eventually you might have to play it.

It really looks like they're going to close this signing period with no WRs and no QB. Maybe they land Platt to include a TE. Looking like a class of 13-15 with risk on losing several important commits. 

Bertrand is talking to other teams, Hicks' recruitment was called "shaky" this week by On3 analysts, and the CBs have been talking seriously to other teams. Going to be some overpaying going with this group for sure. Should be fun. 

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5 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

It really looks like they're going to close this signing period with no WRs and no QB. Maybe they land Platt to include a TE. Looking like a class of 13-15 with risk on losing several important commits. 

 

Didn't they just offer a WR who no one had previously heard of, wo which Peroni said something like "well you have to fill out the roster somehow" in response 

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43 minutes ago, Fud said:

They were 18th in offensive EPA/play, which is good. Not sure how much of that you chalk up to this guy, or how much is the Utah football institution that's been built up over the past decade or two where most OCs have had some various level of positive success 

Accurate, tough QB who is a good runner.  They have two tight ends who are matchup nightmares.  Pretty good offensive line.  I liked his playcalling against USC for the most part.  He was like, they can't cover these TEs so we will just keep throwing it to them.  What a concept.  USCs defense is pretty bad, though.

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Using the Googles it seems that Andy Ludwig is from Utah, first coached with Whittingham in 92, and spent the previous 2 decades climbing the P5 ranks to varying degrees of success. 
 

A&M can and will make him say no to a lot of money but he seems like a guy who is at home, on the back side of his career, and coaching with a friend 

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17 minutes ago, TheRRKid said:

Using the Googles it seems that Andy Ludwig is from Utah, first coached with Whittingham in 92, and spent the previous 2 decades climbing the P5 ranks to varying degrees of success. 
 

A&M can and will make him say no to a lot of money but he seems like a guy who is at home, on the back side of his career, and coaching with a friend 

agreed, making $1.25M already and likely in HC drivers seat when Whittingham retires

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25 minutes ago, TheRRKid said:

Using the Googles it seems that Andy Ludwig is from Utah, first coached with Whittingham in 92, and spent the previous 2 decades climbing the P5 ranks to varying degrees of success. 
 

A&M can and will make him say no to a lot of money but he seems like a guy who is at home, on the back side of his career, and coaching with a friend 

Ludwig is ok but anything but innovative

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So here's where things stand as of today: As you all saw this morning, Bobby Petrino has accepted a spot on Barry Odom's UNLV staff in the OC role. He was ready to make the jump back out of FCS ball and waited to see what A&M and a couple of other SEC programs would do as long as he could. However, I'm here to tell you that if the Ags or another name program in the conference decided Petrino was the guy, Odom and the Rebels would have a very hard time keeping him in Vegas. That's just the way of the world when it comes to the college football hierarchy. So what I'm saying is I wouldn't completely rule this one out, though it's far less likely than it was.

Even then, of course, Petrino was A candidate and not THE candidate, which I said several times last week though those railing against the 'hire' were more interesting in going apoplectic on the boards and social media.

I said last week that the Ags were actively engaged with two other candidates, as well. Those two are still very much in play and are guys I believe Jimbo Fisher could have as soon as he decides to go. However, I think we all understand there's a reason why neither those guys nor Petrino have gotten the call just yet. Why do I say that? Because the Ags aren't sitting around waiting until after the bowl games are played and it's my understanding that the aim is to have this thing wrapped up either before or shortly after next week's Early Signing Day. If one of the guys were leaping off of the page above the others, I think we'd be talking about the next Aggie play-caller by now.

Now, there are a few of you who won't let it go and feel the need to hold whatever I say against me despite the fact that what I'm saying is accurate and you're just railing to rail about something so let me be as clear as I can: Having someone hired by Signing Day (a week or so from now) is the 'aim.' It's a moving target and if Fisher decides to wait things out in search of a better fit or more qualified or celebrated candidate, then that's what he'll do. We've seen Jimbo do it before and, once we pass NSD, the pressure to get something done in an instant is essentially behind us.

With that said, word I received today is that the goal is to wrap this thing up before the holidays and not after and the three names I was told are still out there. Despite today's Petrino news, the Ags are sitting on the same three candidates they were several days ago but my personal opinion is that the head coach is still looking for the perfect fit.

A couple of other things to help provide some clarity:

-Don't waste your time tracking flights. Some of you are just stirring up false hope or random candidates because - in 2022 - Fisher and the Ags aren't flying guys to College Station to risk outing candidates when you can simply get things done via zoom. Believe me or not, I'm simply here trying to save you guys some time and mental energy.

-There are candidates who were under consideration that Fisher could have had and locked but the Ags chose not to go that particular route. We'll see if the Aggies end up in a better situation or not but that list has included the likes of Phil Longo (Wisconsin), Petrino (UNLV) and recent South Carolina hire Dowell Loggins. At least one other sitting SEC OC has made it clear he'd love the job but Fisher and the Ags decided against adding him to the interview list. In a perfect world, I believe we'd be talking about either Garrett Riley or Dan Mullen as the Aggie OC today and I've been pretty clear why neither of those things happened. Beyond that, much of the hand-wringing you're seeing here hasn't been shared across the street at Bright.

Doesn't change the fact that Fisher has to get this one right, however.

And so we wait a little longer and reserve judgement
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