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2 minutes ago, Tom said:

I could be wrong, but I took it as him saying that since the Court upheld DACA, it gives him the power to bypass Congress and redo health care through executive order.

I reread the ruling out of panic. They ruled that since it's a non-enforcement mandate/policy that there is nothing to overturn. You could simply just start enforcing stuff. The law is still the law DACA just instructs agencies to ignore the enforcement

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33 minutes ago, immamac said:

No I think he's saying the supreme court doesn't matter and the president has absolute power. 

Here's what I think he's trying to say;  SCOTUS upheld DACA, which Obama essentially created through Executive Order.  Therefore, POTUS can do whatever he wants, because DACA is the precedent.   So, Trump believes that he can do healthcare by executive order.

 

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Mind you this was his 2nd tour of duty in Vietnam. His first tour of duty ended with a land mine leaving him fully paralyzed, unable to walk ever again.::

 

After the battle, he was evacuated to the base camp, examined, and thought to be dead. As he was placed in a body bag among the other dead in body bags, he was suddenly recognized by a friend who called for help. A doctor came and examined him but believed Benavidez was dead. The doctor was about to zip up the body bag when Benavidez managed to spit in his face, alerting the doctor that he was alive. Benavidez had a total of 37 separate bullet, bayonet, and shrapnel wounds from the six-hour fight with the enemy battalion.

The story of his self-rehabilitation in the hospital after the doctors told him he'd never walk again is pretty powerful. How has his story not been made into a movie?

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You all are so cute trying to find the nuance, or hidden meaning, of something he said. Bottom line is that he is a narcissistic idiot who has no idea how anything works and believes because he's President he can do whatever the hell he wants. He lives in an alternate universe where everything revolves around him. 

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ok i wasn't really watching when this part happened, so maybe somebody can fill me in.  but wallace says, "here's a new poll, and you'll be the first to hear it", then he reads him the results of the fox news poll.  to which trump responds that they only polled 22% republicans as their sample.

is that part of the breakdown, or was it part of some other poll, or is it made up?  i assume trump hasn't seen all the crosstabs and breakdowns if wallace was reading him a brand new poll.  i didn't hear any follow-up, or sure if there even was any.

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3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

This is similar to those who criticize Dr. Fauci for walking a fine line in order to stay on post and do the most good he can.  Chris Wallace wants that interview to go the length.  He knows that he has to be careful in terms of how far he pushes back on any one particular lie, because if he goes too far, Trump will simply get up and walk out.  It's not an easy job to finesse Trump.  I thought he did admirable work.

This cognitive test has been nothing but a joke. Everyone knows it was easy, elementary test easy. Trump is just using it to give him something to say Biden is old and mentally losing it. What I do think should happen is Lincoln Project do an ad that shows the test and shows third and forth graders taking it and making a hundred. End of story.

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3 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

Wasn't Beautiful World Wars the 3rd album by The Smiths? Or was it The Cure?

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B-52s?

2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

That’s a very difficult thing for a brain to accept. So facts must be destroyed and their messengers silenced. The lie must live on. 

On the collegiate version of Jeopardy, wasn't that  in the Football category? A contestant answered, "What is Texas A&M National Championship of 1927?"

41 minutes ago, immamac said:

Uh wtf is he talking about with the supreme court decision? 

 

6 minutes ago, Tom said:

I could be wrong, but I took it as him saying that since the Court upheld DACA, it gives him the power to bypass Congress and redo health care through executive order.

I believe @Tom is correct here. There was some discussion that the ruling was not the positive thing that some were touting because it created a scenario where the President (in order to appease his supporters) would find a run around and end DACA. I mentioned on the election thread that his comments of it in the interview dovetails nicely with the aggressive action taken in Portland by Chad Wolf et. al and soon to be enacted across the nation. Round up Antifa, round up Hispanics. Plus, Bill Barr states that DACA is illegal and he's running that side of the show now.

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32 minutes ago, immamac said:

I reread the ruling out of panic. They ruled that since it's a non-enforcement mandate/policy that there is nothing to overturn. You could simply just start enforcing stuff. The law is still the law DACA just instructs agencies to ignore the enforcement

Explain that to me like I'm a graduate of a 1A High School in West Texas.

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24 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

ok i wasn't really watching when this part happened, so maybe somebody can fill me in.  but wallace says, "here's a new poll, and you'll be the first to hear it", then he reads him the results of the fox news poll.  to which trump responds that they only polled 22% republicans as their sample.

is that part of the breakdown, or was it part of some other poll, or is it made up?  i assume trump hasn't seen all the crosstabs and breakdowns if wallace was reading him a brand new poll.  i didn't hear any follow-up, or sure if there even was any.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/07/Fox_July-12-15-2020_Complete_National_Topline_July-19-Release.pdf

42% R/Lean R

So he either said 22 meaning to say 42 or he just pulled it out of his ass. Most likely the latter.

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22 minutes ago, Irwin F Fletcher said:

More to the point. Trump claimed his doctors were "very surprised" he "aced it"

And let’s also be clear, we all know he’s completely lying when he said he “aced” it.

When Wallace asked him what were the hard questions, he couldn’t recall a single question, he just knew they were hard.

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4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Mind you this was his 2nd tour of duty in Vietnam. His first tour of duty ended with a land mine leaving him fully paralyzed, unable to walk ever again.::

 

After the battle, he was evacuated to the base camp, examined, and thought to be dead. As he was placed in a body bag among the other dead in body bags, he was suddenly recognized by a friend who called for help. A doctor came and examined him but believed Benavidez was dead. The doctor was about to zip up the body bag when Benavidez managed to spit in his face, alerting the doctor that he was alive. Benavidez had a total of 37 separate bullet, bayonet, and shrapnel wounds from the six-hour fight with the enemy battalion.

I was in Corpus one time had and 8 foot tall Asian waiter. I asked him his name and it was Ho Tran Benavidez

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2 hours ago, tantric superman said:

War correspondent.  Wartime ambulance driver. 

I don't think he killed Japs in Saipan but he was as close to the action as one could be for a non-combatant. 

"You know, I used to love reading Hemingway. ‘Cause he wrote so well. But now that i’m here I can’t understand why anyone would willingly go to a war, would go with enthusiasm, would want to be there while it's happening. I’d do anything to get out of here. It’s crazy."

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2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Free speech bro’. Grabbing by the pussy is also free speech /trump

I'm speculating that he might have heard the term "free speech" a number of times recently while he strove to prevent John Bolton and Mary Trump from publishing their books. 

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6 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I'm not sure why we're still doing the "Trump wants to lose" bit. He wants to win. He rarely works and plays golf all weekend. He loves the power he holds. 

He's just a sociopath. You can't use reason or accountability to try and make sense of what he's doing. 

 

The Presidency is probably the first thing Trump has done where he's actually making a lot of money. He doesn't want to lose.

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3 hours ago, Tom said:

I could be wrong, but I took it as him saying that since the Court upheld DACA, it gives him the power to bypass Congress and redo health care through executive order.

Jared should be able to come up with something that replaces the ACA within two weeks.

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The scariest clip is him saying he might not accept the election results. So ugh, what’s the steps for removing a dictator? Do the secret service escort him out? Or?

Play the “what if Obama” game with that one. Saying that on a Fox News interview.
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4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The scariest clip is him saying he might not accept the election results. So ugh, what’s the steps for removing a dictator? Do the secret service escort him out? Or?

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3 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

The story of his self-rehabilitation in the hospital after the doctors told him he'd never walk again is pretty powerful. How has his story not been made into a movie?

It really would be a great movie, given that you also have the drama in the story from the effort to get him the MOH 13 years later.

If one of the survivors that Benavidez believed was dead didn't see an El Campo newspaper article picked up in Australia when he was visiting there from Fiji, he likely wouldn't have received it. 

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4 minutes ago, SaucyJack said:

needs moar planes

...ramming the ramparts and such.

But seriously, if he doesn't leave office voluntarily, he can leave it loudly....screaming in pain the whole fucking way.  If you think that millions of us WON'T descend on DC on January 20, 2021, to install newly sworn-in president Biden (remember, he doesn't have to be sworn in by the chief justice -- he can be sworn in by any federal or state judge -- shit, taking the oath before a notary is sufficient), you're not reading the room.

Trump will leave after the election.  Or we'll fucking drag him out of there ourselves.  We don't cotton to dictators.

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21 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The scariest clip is him saying he might not accept the election results. So ugh, what’s the steps for removing a dictator? Do the secret service escort him out? Or?

The same steps for anyone who trespasses on White House grounds. 

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18 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

...ramming the ramparts and such.

But seriously, if he doesn't leave office voluntarily, he can leave it loudly....screaming in pain the whole fucking way.  If you think that millions of us WON'T descend on DC on January 20, 2021, to install newly sworn-in president Biden (remember, he doesn't have to be sworn in by the chief justice -- he can be sworn in by any federal or state judge -- shit, taking the oath before a notary is sufficient), you're not reading the room.

Trump will leave after the election.  Or we'll fucking drag him out of there ourselves.  We don't cotton to dictators.

If he “wins” and it is clearly a fraudulent election, I truly think people will tear down the gates of the White House to get him out. That’s not hyperbole. 

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27 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If he “wins” and it is clearly a fraudulent election, I truly think people will tear down the gates of the White House to get him out. That’s not hyperbole. 

I have this waking nightmare where, despite being way down in the polls in every swing state, he miraculously "wins" Penn, Wisconsin, Michigan, NC etc. by about 5000 votes each. And our intel agencies are screaming "the russians got in". Things would turn apocalyptic pretty quick.

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I worry about that, too.  But I think the more likely scenario plays out.  Biden beats him but marked, but not significant amounts, in certain states and wins the EC by a decent margin (20-30 votes).  People openly celebrate that fact on Election Night and again on Inauguration Day.  And hundreds of Trumpers (not a lot, but a decent sized lot) spend those 11 weeks going on physically violent rampages across the country aimed at people celebrating the Biden victory.  

December 9th will also be a particularly bloody day in U.S. History because that's when the voting certification by myriad swing states/close election result states governed by Trump supporters will have to wait and see who their EC voters submit their ballots for.  Their attempts to delay or complicate that EC ballot casting will be shown publicly that day.  What was once ceremonial in nature may prove wildly contentious.  

Y'all can wring your hands about 2016 and all the protests and violence since then.  The darkest 11 weeks in American history since the Civil War will be between Election Day and Inauguration Day.  I'm buying a MAGA hat just to blend in and not get shot.  

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They openly pay for U.S. troops to be murdered.  They were the decisive culprit by our intelligence community as a bad-actor in our 2016 election cycle.  And now they are actively hacking Covid-19 research centers for selfish gain.  

They could announce tomorrow that all the 75 year old volunteers at U.S. polling places in November are the 35 year old Soviet undercover spies they planted here during the Cold War like that TV show and they're going to freely manipulate our results in swing states.  And Trump and his supporters would say, "Nope, fake news.  Kerri Russell would never do that to this country."

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

If he “wins” and it is clearly a fraudulent election, I truly think people will tear down the gates of the White House to get him out. That’s not hyperbole. 

I'd be there, guillotine in tow. 

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37 minutes ago, Lobo said:

I worry about that, too.  But I think the more likely scenario plays out.  Biden beats him but marked, but not significant amounts, in certain states and wins the EC by a decent margin (20-30 votes).  People openly celebrate that fact on Election Night and again on Inauguration Day.  And hundreds of Trumpers (not a lot, but a decent sized lot) spend those 11 weeks going on physically violent rampages across the country aimed at people celebrating the Biden victory.  

December 9th will also be a particularly bloody day in U.S. History because that's when the voting certification by myriad swing states/close election result states governed by Trump supporters will have to wait and see who their EC voters submit their ballots for.  Their attempts to delay or complicate that EC ballot casting will be shown publicly that day.  What was once ceremonial in nature may prove wildly contentious.  

Y'all can wring your hands about 2016 and all the protests and violence since then.  The darkest 11 weeks in American history since the Civil War will be between Election Day and Inauguration Day.  I'm buying a MAGA hat just to blend in and not get shot.  

Skip the hat, get a gun. I'll be buying my first if all of that goes down. 

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They won't be targeting people in their homes.  They'll be scouring social media to find out about election night parties, EC certification events, and Inauguration Day celebrations.  And they'll do the new "cool" thing where they get their fancy duty vests on, get their assault rifles at the ready, and put on the cute camo and tactical gear.  And they'll either just stand around these celebrations as some grim reminder of the war to come...or they'll flat out drive by and start shooting into crowds.  The FBI predicts dozens to hundreds of events that sounds like my first description and another 5-10 or so mass shooting events that mirror the latter description.  The reporting mechanisms will be skewed from muni to muni and state to state, but most estimates put U.S. citizen on U.S. citizen violence directly related to the Election, between November and January to be in the low triple digits.  

Our worst days are still ahead of us.  

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