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Enchubben

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8 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Can we sell them corn at astronomical prices and retire some of our debt they hold?

or do we have to give them corn in exchange for them not calling in al of the debt they hold?

Maybe they can throw in some chips/semiconductors for the corn? 

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32 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Can we sell them corn at astronomical prices and retire some of our debt they hold?

or do we have to give them corn in exchange for them not calling in al of the debt they hold?

They can’t afford to not keep absorbing more US debt, let alone call in their current holdings.  

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9 minutes ago, GringoSalado said:

Whatever that saying is, if I owe you $1m that is my problem, if I owe you $1Trillion that is your problem, or something.

IF they want to keep feeding their people, they have to continue to sell shitty products to their biggest consumer.  

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China might have the upper hand: It sits on the source of 10 major rivers, which aggregately flow through 11 countries and supply 1.6 billion people with water. China controls Tibet and the Tibetan Plateau, otherwise known as the world’s “Third Pole” because its glaciers give birth to the lion’s share of Asia’s rivers. Therefore, China’s upstream actions — for instance, its dam-building — have scores of impacts for downstream countries. Dechen Palmo, a research fellow at the Tibet Policy Institute, was not exaggerating when he wrote in The Diplomat that “the future of Asia’s water lies in China’s hands.”

https://harvardpolitics.com/china-water-policy/

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25 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Subway starts filling up after 20 inches of rain in 24 hours.

Can the dams take the length?

https://weather.com/news/weather/video/subway-passengers-walk-through-waist-high-water-in-china

 

20 inches? that’s only like up to your knee. that’s not that much rain, what’s the big deal?

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2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Don't they own  a significant portion of US farms?

 

 

They have the largest ownership of US farmland of any foreign country, but it's not a "significant portion" of US farmland.  They own ~191,000 acres, most of it tied to their ownership of Smithfield Foods.  

Total US farmland is around 915 million acres.

So China owns ~ 0.02% of US farmland.

They also only own ~$1.1 trillion, of the US's ~$22 trillion, in debt.  That's a lot, for sure, but again it's a pretty small percentage of the overall total.  Japan owns slightly more at around $1.2 trillion, and is the largest foreign holder of US debt.

 

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On 7/19/2021 at 12:17 PM, GringoSalado said:

Whatever that saying is, if I owe you $1m that is my problem, if I owe you $1Trillion that is your problem, or something.

That’s an old Confusedcious saying.

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11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So these are the heaviest rains in 1,000 years.   That’ll leave a mark.  

Yeah it's pretty incredible.  I know China is Asshole, but I don't wish natural disasters like this on anyone.  It's the people, not their government, that will suffer.

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1 hour ago, utee94 said:

They have the largest ownership of US farmland of any foreign country, but it's not a "significant portion" of US farmland.  They own ~191,000 acres, most of it tied to their ownership of Smithfield Foods.  

Total US farmland is around 915 million acres.

So China owns ~ 0.02% of US farmland.

They also only own ~$1.1 trillion, of the US's ~$22 trillion, in debt.  That's a lot, for sure, but again it's a pretty small percentage of the overall total.  Japan owns slightly more at around $1.2 trillion, and is the largest foreign holder of US debt.

 

sounds like we've taken some sound financial advice:

Diversify Your Bonds Wu Tang GIFs | Tenor

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7 minutes ago, strangulation! said:

sounds like we've taken some sound financial advice:

Diversify Your Bonds Wu Tang GIFs | Tenor

Indeed.  In fact, we're so clever, that the US government and Federal Reserve bank own the largest share of our debt.  Seems a little shady, no?

Here's a handy infographic.  It's from 2018 but the story is largely the same.

 

MW-GO672_nation_20180821130954_MG.jpg?uuid=05b585b6-a565-11e8-b6ab-ac162d7bc1f7

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On 7/19/2021 at 2:53 PM, washparkhorn said:

China might have the upper hand: It sits on the source of 10 major rivers, which aggregately flow through 11 countries and supply 1.6 billion people with water. China controls Tibet and the Tibetan Plateau, otherwise known as the world’s “Third Pole” because its glaciers give birth to the lion’s share of Asia’s rivers. Therefore, China’s upstream actions — for instance, its dam-building — have scores of impacts for downstream countries. Dechen Palmo, a research fellow at the Tibet Policy Institute, was not exaggerating when he wrote in The Diplomat that “the future of Asia’s water lies in China’s hands.”

https://harvardpolitics.com/china-water-policy/

it's amazing how many hugenormous rivers start basically right next to each other.  at one point the irawaddy, salween, mekong, and yangtze pass within 70 miles of each other, each basically another valley over from the next.  the yellow's headwaters aren't very far away, and the brahmaputra passes nearby as well.  blame india for moving north, i guess. 

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1 hour ago, Updawg said:

Google mapping China is crazy. A lot of those cities are like Houston. It’s scary to see how much they have changed the resources etc. no idea how it can keep up.

and google maps ain't anywhere near accurate anymore.  a friend teaches english in hefei and they've put in 4 whole subway lines since the last time google maps was updated. 

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On 7/19/2021 at 2:45 PM, washparkhorn said:

China's hydro policy is, in part, a strategic decision to control water downstream. 

There will be wars over fresh water. 

 

Isn't this what sparked their latest clash with India where they were fighting with swords?  China’s plans to construct a dam on the Yarlung Zangbo River which would affect the Brahmaputra river in India. 

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On 7/19/2021 at 2:53 PM, washparkhorn said:

China might have the upper hand: It sits on the source of 10 major rivers, which aggregately flow through 11 countries and supply 1.6 billion people with water. China controls Tibet and the Tibetan Plateau, otherwise known as the world’s “Third Pole” because its glaciers give birth to the lion’s share of Asia’s rivers. Therefore, China’s upstream actions — for instance, its dam-building — have scores of impacts for downstream countries. Dechen Palmo, a research fellow at the Tibet Policy Institute, was not exaggerating when he wrote in The Diplomat that “the future of Asia’s water lies in China’s hands.”

https://harvardpolitics.com/china-water-policy/

True, but it seems like Dams...especially shoddily built dams...would be major strategic weak points 

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