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Jeter giving the gift of disease is one of those MLB traditions. 

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Am i the only one that feels like clicking on the astros thread is a wormhole to texags?

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Maybe I heard him wrong last night, but it sounded like the umpire said something along the lines of “that one might have been high, but have you ever had a bad day on the job? Knock it off” when Woodward was barking from the dugout. If so, I feel like more umpires could just admit that and it would de-escalated the situation. What are you supposed to say to that? Because calling balls and strikes is really hard. It’s more about how the umpires react to getting called out about it that drives me crazy. 

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2 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

white Sox' Abreu with a nice slide into first base, as a fielder.

Hot take:  St. Louis' light blue uniforms (and the Twins) are terrible.  Especially with the clown socks.

Cards went like 2-9 in the baby blues last year. Burn them. 

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Dodgers up 6-5 on the Angels in the bottom of the 10th.  Ghost runner still on 2nd with 2 outs and Trout coming up against Jansen.  The Dodgers are pitching to him.  This is a situation where I'd be ok walking the winning run on.

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19 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

 

Incorrect take:  St. Louis' light blue uniforms (and the Twins) are terrible.  

correction.  Those Cards unis are among the best in sports.

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3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Also member when @Beau Vine said every team would just bunt the auto runner to third everytime once extras started? I haven’t seen one team actually do that. Bunting is dead. 

The marlins have been doing it, if I’m not mistaken. Nobody else is doing it because every coach is looking for that big inning and in today’s baseball, half the time when you bunt that guy over the next person is just going to strike out anyways. But hand up, I definitely thought we’d see more bunting in this situation if they’re at or near the bottom of the lineup 

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16 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Good grief, Nelson Cruz just knocked the living shit out of that one.  Hit the restaurant in straight away centerfield.  The fence is marked 411 ft and the restaurant is at least 30 ft above the fence.

The sound of the ball off Cruz’s bat when he really connects just doesn’t sound like many others.  Dude hits the shit out of the ball.  
 

I remember one time at the Ballpark in Arlington, he absolutely smashed one into the upper deck on Right Center into the last section towards center.   Absolutely smoked.  

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45 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Lol. Nothing is better than the Yankee pinstripes. One of the most iconic unis in sports

Nothing is more Yankee fan than having to tell everyone how great your own team(uni) is.

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2 hours ago, Helobious said:

Also member when @Beau Vine said every team would just bunt the auto runner to third everytime once extras started? I haven’t seen one team actually do that. Bunting is dead. 

It has been less than I expected, but to say that you haven't seen one team do it is just more evidence that you don't actually watch baseball.  

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F espn.  They use live game broadcasts these days as something to throw in the background while they talk about anything but what is going on in the game.  And devote 1/3 of the screen to show 3 talking heads sitting individually at their desks.

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F espn.  They use live game broadcasts these days as something to throw in the background while they talk about anything but what is going on in the game.  And devote 1/3 of the screen to show 3 talking heads sitting individually at their desks.
This is what they did with KBO. It sucked then, so they decided to keep it?
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F espn.  They use live game broadcasts these days as something to throw in the background while they talk about anything but what is going on in the game.  And devote 1/3 of the screen to show 3 talking heads sitting individually at their desks.

This is what they did with KBO. It sucked then, so they decided to keep it?

Yes, exactly like with KBO.  They were doing this during the Detroit/Cleveland game for 2 straight half innings, mostly talking about Plesac and Clevinger while ignoring the game.  I stopped flipping over and stuck with the Kaat and Harold Reynolds call of Phillies/Mets on MLBN, if that tells you anything.

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From a week ago, but didn't see it posted:

 
 
Last week, one team president put it very clearly: "Our only chance is to start planning a postseason bubble." While the talks are preliminary, as reported earlier, they're real, and they've got a significant amount of backing around the sport.
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...Because of MLB's expansion to 16 playoff teams, the league would need at least three hubs to complete its wild-card round before shrinking to a two-hub format for the division series. The league championship series and World Series could be held at one or two stadiums. Remaining in one metropolitan area would allow teams to avoid air travel and perhaps remain at a single hotel for the entire postseason, which is scheduled to begin Sept. 27. MLB also could hold wild-card-round games at home sites to mitigate concerns over scheduling up to three games at a single site and move to a bubble format starting in the division series, sources said.

Southern California, the greater Chicago area and the New York metropolitan area would make the most sense because of the available stadiums, sources said. Concerns about weather in late September and deep into October make the Los Angeles area the most logical choice to host an entire postseason, though the sources cautioned that because of the nascent nature of discussions, no favorite has emerged....

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Have Jerry World converted for baseball... Add in Globe Life Park or whatever the hell it is called this year and the Rough Riders park in Frisco.

It'd be a neutral site for PO's...

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5 hours ago, slorch said:

Have Jerry World converted for baseball... Add in Globe Life Park or whatever the hell it is called this year and the Rough Riders park in Frisco.

It'd be a neutral site for PO's...

Ballpark at Arlington had the baseball field ripped out and redone for the failed XFL venture. Not enough time to reconfigure it. JerryWorld might host actual football games in a month so doubtful Jerry would be up for that. LA makes the most sense from a weather standpoint.  

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During a testy meeting Friday, Cleveland Indians players scolded teammates Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac for breaking protocol and going out in Chicago, and at least one player said he would opt out of the season if the two remained on the active roster, sources familiar with the meeting told ESPN.

Clevinger and Plesac, two-fifths of the Indians' rotation that has a major-league-best 2.43 ERA, were optioned to Cleveland's alternate site and will spend at least 10 days away from the major league team. While some teammates accepted their apologies and preferred they remain with the Indians, sources said, the anger over their actions was palpable enough to lead to the demotions -- ones that, if they last for a specific period of time, could have significant financial implications.

Indians players' disappointment centered not only on the decision made by Clevinger and Plesac to leave the team hotel in Chicago on Aug. 7 but also their actions afterward. Some players, sources said, believed Clevinger was not truthful with them about his involvement before he boarded the team plane Aug. 9. By then, Plesac, who had been caught trying to return to the hotel early on the morning of Aug. 8, had been sent back to Cleveland. His attempted explanation this week in an Instagram video during which he was driving further bothered teammates, sources said.

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In the meeting before their series against the Detroit Tigers, Indians players castigated Clevinger and Plesac for their poor decision-making, sources said.

Clevinger, 29, is one of baseball's most talented pitchers, with a 2.96 ERA in 447⅔ innings over the previous three seasons. The 25-year-old Plesac had been a star in his first three starts this year, posting a 1.29 ERA with a 24-2 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

Despite their production, 39-year-old left-handed reliever Oliver Perez said he would leave the team if Clevinger and Plesac returned to the roster in Detroit, sources familiar with the meeting said. Other players, sources said, felt similarly. Shortstop Francisco Lindor, the four-time All-Star considered the heart of the team, was outspoken as well, sources said.

The most critical issue, sources said, was the breach of trust. While Clevinger and Plesac have tested negative for COVID-19, the potential exposure of the team to the coronavirus -- including pitcher Carlos Carrasco, who was treated for leukemia last year -- frustrated the team.

Indians pitcher Adam Plutko, who joined the rotation after Clevinger and Plesac were put on the restricted list before their demotion, said last week: "They hurt us bad. They lied to us. They sat here, in front of you guys, and said things publicly that they didn't follow through on. It's gonna be up to them. It really is."

Over the weekend, the Indians swept the Tigers and improved to 13-9, one game behind the Minnesota Twins for first place in the American League Central. Their plus-21 run differential is sixth best in the major leagues, and their 2.56 team ERA leads the AL by nearly a full run.

While the absences of Clevinger and Plesac haven't hurt the Indians in the short term, the long-term implications could be substantial -- and severe -- depending on how long they remain demoted. Players can be optioned to the minor leagues for up to 19 days during a season without losing service time. Clevinger entered this season with three years, 41 days of service and Plesac with 125 days.

Service time in 2020 operates on the following formula: 186*X/67. In a typical season, there are 186 days. This season, there are 67. "X" is the number of days spent on an active roster. If Clevinger remains on option for 20 days, the maximum number of rostered days he can get is 47 -- which, under the formula, would equal 130 days of service. That would leave him with 3 years, 171 days -- one day short of reaching four years of service.

By keeping Clevinger down, Cleveland could delay his free agency by a year.

The potential repercussions for Plesac are sizable too. He began the year on option for two days, meaning Cleveland needs to keep him down for 18 more days this season to affect his service. With a full year of service, he would be on track to be a Super 2 -- arbitration eligible four times instead of the standard three -- after the 2021 season. If he finishes 2020 with 130 days of service, Plesac would not reach arbitration until after 2022.

Cleveland needs a starter for its game Saturday against Detroit, though to recall Clevinger or Plesac, it would need to place a pitcher on the injured list. Of the players on Cleveland's active roster, left-hander Logan Allen is the only starter not in the rotation. Cleveland next would need a fifth starter Sept. 1, the day after the trade deadline.

The possibility of Cleveland dealing a starting pitcher prior to the Aug. 31 deadline certainly exists, as president Chris Antonetti and general manager Mike Chernoff have traded from the Indians' starting-pitching surplus twice in the past year and before that were active in conversations about starters. On July 30 last year, Cleveland shipped starter Trevor Bauer to the Cincinnati Reds and received Allen, slugging designated hitter Franmil Reyes, outfielder Yasiel Puig and prospects Scott Moss and Victor Nova. In the offseason, they traded two-time Cy Young winner Corey Kluber to the Texas Rangers for reliever Emmanuel Clase and outfielder Delino DeShields Jr.

 

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The immortal Crespo brothers. 

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Corey Seager, the Los Angeles Dodgers' shortstop, hit a three-run homer in the bottom of the second. Kyle Seager, the Seattle Mariners' third baseman, cranked a solo homer in the top of the third. It marked the first time that two brothers on opposing teams homered in the same game since Felipe and Cesar Crespo did it June 7, 2001.

 

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