2020 MLB thread

[Js1 85418]

Yes they are 

[UTexasFight 9502]

That Chris Woodward quote is Jeff Bannister if I’ve ever heard him 

 

 

also wasn’t it the Padres that busted up a no-hitter with a bunt a few years back? Now that one....that was BS

[Brew 3049]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Baseball’s “Unwritten Rules” are stupid. 

 

The whole thing is stupid. When is he allowed to swing? Is 3-1 still an issue? What about 3-2? You’re really supposed to just give the pitcher a free pitch?

[UTexasFight 9502]

Tatis Jr: “Dad, I got 2 bombs and 7 RBIs last night and only took me 2 innings!”

Tatis Sr: “hold my beer”

[shadow_operative 15932]

Baseball’s “Unwritten Rules” are stupid. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Eastwood 4394]

7 run lead isn't big enough to bitch about that. He lets that one slide and takes, gets out, scores no one, and the Rangers score 4 in the bottom of the 8th, it's a 3 run game with an inning to go. Complaining about that is like complaining about a team throwing deep passes while up by 21 with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter. There's still enough game left to be played for that win to still be in a little doubt. Especially in the pros.

[mdmost 43004]

It's a stupid thing to complain about. The Rangers absolutely could have mounted a comeback down 7. Woodward spoke up to deflect from the utter failure of his bullpen and the team's fielding that helped San Diego mount the lead. I have no issue with Tatis crushing a ball with 3 men on. That's what you're paid to do. 

[Scraps 13563]

Steve Spurrier laughs at Chris Woodward's hurt pussy 

And so do I 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Scraps

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

8 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I have no issue with Tatis crushing a ball with 3 men on.

On what planet did anyone mention the number of runners on base? Goddamn. 

[Post Oak 20246]

as a Rangers fan I generally like Woodward but I hate the butthurt.  I fucking hate the unwritten rules bullshit with an undying passion.  Just take the loss pussy.

Reporter: Chris, what were your thoughts on Tatis' GS.

CW: As a rule I dont like when we give up GSs.

Also I'm not a fan of Tingler giving the guy a take sign.   Let him swing away.  but whatever. 

 

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

I highly, highly doubt the take sign was actually given. That was just Tingler being cool to his old organization after murdering them. 

[Helobious 9462]

49 minutes ago, UTexasFight said:

 

also wasn’t it the Padres that busted up a no-hitter with a bunt a few years back? Now that one....that was BS

Fuck that. Your objective as a batter is to reach base, if bunting is the best way you think you can do that then you should do it. It’s pretty evident that baseballs unwritten rules were made by overly sensitive pussies who were scared of effort and competition. 

[Pato del Muerto 52527]

1 hour ago, UTexasFight said:

That Chris Woodward quote is Jeff Bannister if I’ve ever heard him 

 

 

also wasn’t it the Padres that busted up a no-hitter with a bunt a few years back? Now that one....that was BS

Why is one of these things bullshit and the other not?

defense has a chance to field a bunt just as much as any other batted ball. 

[Beau Vine 54254]

47 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Fuck that. Your objective as a batter is to reach base, if bunting is the best way you think you can do that then you should do it. It’s pretty evident that baseballs unwritten rules were made by overly sensitive pussies who were scared of effort and competition. 

Someone bunted with a no-hitter late in a 2-0 game a few years ago.  I have no problem with that.  Bunting in an 8-0 no-hitter is a different story. 

[Pato del Muerto 52527]

2 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Someone bunted with a no-hitter late in a 2-0 game a few years ago.  I have no problem with that.  Bunting in an 8-0 no-hitter is a different story. 

Why?  Strategies change to preserve a no hitter, managers leave pitchers in longer than normal, play defense a little differently. Why can’t the team at the plate try to not get no-hit however they choose?

[mdmost 43004]

Here we go again

 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Woodward is definitely a baby back bitch for that quote about Tatis. We’ve kinda known that for a while now, but that pretty much confirmed it. 

[Beau Vine 54254]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Why?  Strategies change to preserve a no hitter, managers leave pitchers in longer than normal, play defense a little differently. Why can’t the team at the plate try to not get no-hit however they choose?

Because the goal is to win the game, not to not get no-hit.  

[Pato del Muerto 52527]

5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Because the goal is to win the game, not to not get no-hit.  

So take your starter out at 110 pitches like usual, since the goal is not a no-hitter. 

[UTexasFight 9502]

This last page has got me like, BASEBALL!!!!!

 

 

god bless I love this sport 

[Beau Vine 54254]

44 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So take your starter out at 110 pitches like usual, since the goal is not a no-hitter. 

Well, if he has a no-hitter going, that pretty much means he's pitching well, so why would removing a pitcher who's pitching well be optimal to winning the game?

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

Part of what makes the Woodward quote so ridiculous is this is the same guy that had Ronald Guzman intentionally drop a foul ball that would’ve ended the game,  just so minor could get his 200 Ks. Woodward is a fucking joke.

Edited August 18, 2020 by youdunnf'dup

[Helobious 9462]

11 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Well, if he has a no-hitter going, that pretty much means he's pitching well, so why would removing a pitcher who's pitching well be optimal to winning the game?

This is the weakest argument you’ve ever made about anything. In this day and age pitchers get taken out all the time even if they’re mowing bitches down. It’s a race to the bullpen now, everyone knows that.

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

You know it’s bad when Paige is dropping dimes. 

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52527]

28 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Well, if he has a no-hitter going, that pretty much means he's pitching well, so why would removing a pitcher who's pitching well be optimal to winning the game?

Same reason guys get pulled right after giving up the first hit in the 8th or 9th. So you don’t overextend their workload for the game and keep them ready and healthy for future starts. Same reason a guy gets pulled after 8 having only given up 2 hits all game. 
You think it’s ok for a team to go after a no-hitter, and that they should expect bunting to be off the table if the score is a bit lopsided, but you don’t think the team being no-hit should be able to use all of its tools to get a hit just to avoid being no-hit.  
 

getting a runner on base via a bunt base hit seems to me to be advancing the goal of winning the game irrespective of the score at the time.

We just disagree on this point, and that’s fine. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Beau Vine 54254]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

You know it’s bad when Paige is dropping dimes. 

 

 

Paige doesn't need to be dropping anything but her top.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

 

Edited August 18, 2020 by youdunnf'dup

[InkaUtexas 25993]

 

[Guest]

It's this simple:

If Tatis cannot swing at the 3-0 pitch, then give the Padres the fucking intentional walk.

 

Otherwise, play ball!!!

[MC Fresh Breath 4074]

Another reason I choose to watch Padres broadcasts:

 

https://streamable.com/pen0sr

 

 

[clapclapclap 9000]

So all that talk about safety from MLB was just a bunch of bullcrap.  Woodward gets a joke 1 game suspension, and 4 hours laters the Giants are throwing at Mike Trout's head, because why not?

Joe Kelly's suspension was stiff because the league wanted to send a message to move on from the Astros scandal, lest a pissed off Houston starts leaking more about Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers/Rangers/Cubs/and more involvement.  Safety, as usual, was just a fig leaf claim.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

26 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

So all that talk about safety from MLB was just a bunch of bullcrap.  Woodward gets a joke 1 game suspension, and 4 hours laters the Giants are throwing at Mike Trout's head, because why not?

Joe Kelly's suspension was stiff because the league wanted to send a message to move on from the Astros scandal, lest a pissed off Houston starts leaking more about Yankees/Red Sox/Dodgers/Rangers/Cubs/and more involvement.  Safety, as usual, was just a fig leaf claim.

I’m going to take a wild guess and say that’s not why they suspended Kelly that way. He has a long history of doing shit like he did against the Astros, does he not? I think that was more of a message specifically to Kelly than it was to the rest of the league. Kind of like a Vontaze Burfict “we’ve talked about this on numerous occasions” type of situation in the nfl. But I could be wrong.

Edited August 18, 2020 by youdunnf'dup

[Sbbruin 21861]

12 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Baseball’s “Unwritten Rules” are stupid. 

 

Fuck that.  Until baseball games are on a clock instead of innings, we'll stop trying when you stop trying.  Otherwise fuck off.

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

Just your everyday F5. 

 

 

[UTexasFight 9502]

I hate the extra inning rules

I can live with it for 2020 given the circumstances.

but please no for 2021

Bottom of twelve. (Only one runner had made it to third in extra up to that point).
Buxton starts at 2nd
Two broken bat, swinging “bunts” that don’t leave the infield and travel a total of 150’
Twins win.

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

Yeah, you won’t see many ‘walk-offs’ with a lower EV than that one. 

[Guadaloopy 10974]

I like the extra inning rules.  I liked it when they announced it, and I like it even more in practice.  That said, I find myself still doing a double take when an inning starts with a runner on second.  
 

Baseball is a strange game and strange things happen that make the difference in a game all the time.   There are probably twenty games a year that have weirder, flukier endings than that Twins game.  

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

Best part of the box score is Brock Holt pinch-running for Josh Hader. 

[Huckleberry 33003]

14 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

That Chris Woodward quote is Jeff Bannister if I’ve ever heard him 

 

 

also wasn’t it the Padres that busted up a no-hitter with a bunt a few years back? Now that one....that was BS

This is a terrible take, in fact this is possibly THE WORST unwritten rule in baseball.

Why in the hell should one of the ways batters can get on base be taken away from them when a pitcher is going for a no-hitter? The entire reason a no-hitter is impressive is because of the assumption that the hitters are trying their best to get a hit in every at-bat. If batters willingly give up that option then the no-hitter is less impressive. Furthermore, we've seen infielders start backing up even on quick hitters because they assume that this unwritten rule will be followed. That, again, makes the no-hitter less impressive.

Edited August 19, 2020 by Huckleberry

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

This is pretty good. 

 

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

9 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Another reason I choose to watch Padres broadcasts:

 

https://streamable.com/pen0sr

 

 

they've got Bert Kreischer doing color commentary? yeah i need to tune in. 

[UTexasFight 9502]

9 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

I like the extra inning rules.  I liked it when they announced it, and I like it even more in practice.  That said, I find myself still doing a double take when an inning starts with a runner on second.  
 

Baseball is a strange game and strange things happen that make the difference in a game all the time.   There are probably twenty games a year that have weirder, flukier endings than that Twins game.  

You mean Buxton grounding into a double play in the bottom of the eleventh ( his second GIDP in the game, something that had never happened before in his career) allowing him to leadoff at second in the 12th...And then advancing 90’ twice on two excellent pitches that sawed off the batter/broke bats both times (the second one of which barely made it to the pitcher’s mound and someone slower than Buxton probably doesn’t score on) isn’t freakish enough for you?

 

Look, I’m sure I’ll get used to the extra inning rules and be fine with it if it’s adopted permanently, but right now I like my baseball rules being the same no matter the inning, not changing once the inning counter rolls over to double digits.

Before this year, baseball was the only major sport that played by the same rules from beginning to end. I’d personally prefer to keep it that way, but understand the arguments on the other side as well.
 

/old man yells at cloud

[Guest]

I don’t like the pitcher owning the run if the runner scores from 2nd. If they come in in relief in regulation, they don’t own existing runners...

Maybe give him .5 for the Earned Run.  That’ll make the statbois’ heads fall off.

 

Otherwise, I like the new Extra Innings.  It’s not like they’re all ending in the 10th either, so it’s not a gimme.

Edited August 19, 2020 by slorch

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

8 minutes ago, slorch said:

I don’t like the pitcher owning the run if the runner scores from 2nd. If they come in in relief in regulation, they don’t own existing runners...

Maybe give him .5 for the Earned Run.  That’ll make the statbois’ heads fall off.

 

Otherwise, I like the new Extra Innings.  It’s not like they’re all ending in the 10th either, so it’s not a gimme.

I was under the impression that the runner on 2nd was never an earned run for anyone. That is actually a pretty big deal for relievers who are looking for their next contract. 
 

Im with you though. I don’t love it and i don’t hate it. I could see myself getting used to it though, and i almost positive we’re going to have to. 

[ChickenSandwich 9843]

Extra innings should add an out for the defense. Man in scoring position with one out. Let’s go. 

[Guest]

34 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I was under the impression that the runner on 2nd was never an earned run for anyone. That is actually a pretty big deal for relievers who are looking for their next contract. 
 

Im with you though. I don’t love it and i don’t hate it. I could see myself getting used to it though, and i almost positive we’re going to have to. 

Correction of my post:   You are right.
it is an unearned run if the designated runner scores.

Edited August 19, 2020 by slorch

[Beau Vine 54254]

 

[shadow_operative2.0 16006]

Casey Mize tonight at 7 against CWS. 

[huge 3793]

2 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

 

Bauer is a douche but I appreciate his commitment to the gag.

 

I admire his consistency.

 

[Biff Tannen 45691]

Good god.  Oviedo of the Cards almost got fucking killed by a liner back to the mound from Schwarber.  Caught it though.  Yikes.