2020 Astros Season Thread

[htown85 159]

Tough loss and series but they made this season a ton of fun.  Even with Springer likely gone there is a lot to look forward to with this team.  Excited for a reaL offseason rather than the shit we went through after the WS in 2019.  

[Lat22 4014]

8 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Next year's HEB commercials are going to be sad and wrong.

Not nearly as sad as they were in San Antonio a couple years ago. 

[LebongJames 1811]

That was a hell of a run. It always sucks when it ends but I doesn’t free like the WS last year.
 

Sign Springer, get insurance to pay for Verlander, especially if he plans to retire.

Sign Stroman or Gausman.
 

That’s probably more money than he plans to spend but that would put them right back at the top of the AL with these young pitchers showing the improvement they have this year.

[cochamps 1879]

7 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

For the Yankees, Jacoby Ellsbury, Kevin Youkilis, AJ Burnett are the easy ones.

Stanton too, imo.  Burnett actually helped them win one, so I’m not as critical of that one.

  LAD not so obvious to me.  Maybe letting Greinke walk cause of other overpays?

 

 

[Mez2 4023]

Fuck this bullshit. Fuck everything, but still a fun run. But still, fuck it all. Baseball is dumb

[LebongJames 1811]

50 minutes ago, cochamps said:

Stanton too, imo.  Burnett actually helped them win one, so I’m not as critical of that one.

  LAD not so obvious to me.  Maybe letting Greinke walk cause of other overpays?

 

 

The Crawford, Beckett, Adrian Gonzales trade was a terrible move for the Dodgers. 

[DaysOff 7951]

I read on the internet that George and Mike's homes are for sale. It must be true.

I am sad.

[cochamps 1879]

35 minutes ago, LebongJames said:

The Crawford, Beckett, Adrian Gonzales trade was a terrible move for the Dodgers. 

Thanks.  Those have been a while ago, but certainly impact payroll issues like Re-signing Greinke.

[TonyTexas 10513]

1 hour ago, cochamps said:

LAD not so obvious to me.  Maybe letting Greinke walk cause of other overpays?

 

Biggest overpay was for the team itself. $2B was at least $500MM over the next highest bidder. The Astros sold for $465MM the previous year. 

[Lat22 4014]

It’s going to be rough seeing George in a different uni. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

It’s going to be rough seeing George in a different uni. 

He is my favorite Astro and yes, it's going to suck. 

If it's not H-town, then go National League, please.  Somewhere like the Rockies, so I could still go see him play and Springer Dingers would fly forever...

Edited October 18, 2020 by slorch

[Guadaloopy 10971]

9 hours ago, Seasick Sailor said:

The Bradley ball that rolled along the wall, Joe West, and that fucking Benintendi catch made that a tough one to take for me. 

Get outta my head.  I feel the same about this year and 2018.  Yeah, the Red Sox were good, but game 4 was stolen and changed the series.  This year the ALCS came down to a lot of good fortune for the Rays.  I’m still amazed by how many hard hit balls found their way into the Rays gloves in games 1-3.  The Astros were never out of any game and brought at least the tying run to the plate in the final at bat in each loss.  Can’t be mad at that.  Just gotta smile, shake your head, and tip your cap.   

[David Dennison 18860]

35 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

It’s going to be rough seeing George in a different uni. 

It will be the hardest thing I can remember as a Houston sports fan. I can't think of anything else that comes close except maybe Nolan as a Ranger.

[Hank Chinaski 6315]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It will be the hardest thing I can remember as a Houston sports fan. I can't think of anything else that comes close except maybe Nolan as a Ranger.

Well, there was the "Tennessee Oilers," but I'm with you - wish Springer would remain in Houston but it seems very unlikely. Will always root for the guy, though. 

[WBT 20572]

In our last two series losses, we had three game winning streaks within the series.  I wonder if that's ever happen in back to back years before.  It's pretty damn rare - off the top of my head there was the 2017 series versus the Yankees where we came out on the good side and the Twins world series win in either 87 or 91 or maybe both?  Anyway, it's hard to swallow the fact that you can win 3 in a row but can't manage to eke out another win.

[Gourmand 7774]

10 minutes ago, WBT said:

In our last two series losses, we had three game winning streaks within the series.  I wonder if that's ever happen in back to back years before.  It's pretty damn rare - off the top of my head there was the 2017 series versus the Yankees where we came out on the good side and the Twins world series win in either 87 or 91 or maybe both?  Anyway, it's hard to swallow the fact that you can win 3 in a row but can't manage to eke out another win.

Correct, and that's why the mistakes made in those first two losses proved determinative in the ultimate outcome of the series. I feel like the Astros hitting and pitching outperformed the Rays in the series but the lopsided defensive differential won TB the AL championship trophy. 

[TexArcher 37774]

I am sad.

I know we'll be back in contention next year.  And I know that Yordan and Tucker will grow to be excellent replacements for Springer and Uncle Mike.  But those are some good guys and they'll be missed.

[Gourmand 7774]

I'm optimistic we re-sign one of Brantley/Springer. More likely Brantley because he won't command the years on a contract that Springer will on the open market. The Astros can't go into next season with an OF of Tucker/Straw/McCormick. That would be terrible. 

Edited October 18, 2020 by Gourmand

[HtownHorn 14682]

Ultimately couldn't overcome Bregman and Gurriel doing absolutely nothing in this series, despite the numerous chances. Please, Crane, you have a young and cheap pitching staff that is good enough to win in October. Resign George.

[cochamps 1879]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Biggest overpay was for the team itself. $2B was at least $500MM over the next highest bidder. The Astros sold for $465MM the previous year. 

Crane got a discount for going to AL, right?

[TonyTexas 10513]

10 minutes ago, cochamps said:

Crane got a discount for going to AL, right?

Yeah. I was wrong on the sales price. It was $610MM which included a $70MM discount for moving to the AL

[htown85 159]

It’s going to be hard to attract/retain FA’s for awhile.  It will take a lot of money to offset the idea of going to play for one of the most hated teams in sports history.

[Macklemore 2872]

34 minutes ago, htown85 said:

It’s going to be hard to attract/retain FA’s for awhile.  It will take a lot of money to offset the idea of going to play for one of the most hated teams in sports history.

That’s pussy talk man. In the end money and the best opportunity to win is what matters in landing players. Not what the Twitter mob thinks.

Edited October 18, 2020 by Macklemore

[htown85 159]

5 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

That’s pussy talk man. In the end money and the best opportunity to win is what matters in landing players. Not what the Twitter mob thinks.

I think we will go after guys for their market price but can’t see Crane/Click offering guys 150% of what other teams will offer.  

[Gourmand 7774]

56 minutes ago, htown85 said:

It’s going to be hard to attract/retain FA’s for awhile.  It will take a lot of money to offset the idea of going to play for one of the most hated teams in sports history.

Cmon man. That's silly. Every player in baseball knows about sign stealing and how often and close many teams and players skirt the line between gamesmanship and cheating. I think more players look at Mike Fiers with disdain than they do the Astros.

[Gourmand 7774]

MUST SEE TV COMING

 

 

[clapclapclap 9000]

3 hours ago, DaysOff said:

I read on the internet that George and Mike's homes are for sale. It must be true.

I am sad.

No idea if this guy is legit.  Claims ESPN 97.5 discussed it.

 

[Macklemore 2872]

4 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

MUST SEE TV COMING

 

 

Thanks for sharing. That’s a must watch for me. I love Luhnow and would hire him back the second his suspension ends if it was up to me. 

[clapclapclap 9000]

 

[Updawg 2266]

Cmon man. That's silly. Every player in baseball knows about sign stealing and how often and close many teams and players skirt the line between gamesmanship and cheating. I think more players look at Mike Fiers with disdain than they do the Astros.

That’s true but unfortunately most opposing fans don’t understand that. Or just ignore it if they are Yankees,red sox etc

[Gourmand 7774]

10 minutes ago, clapclapclap said:

 

 

I had never heard of him until the playoffs and this anecdote from Correa reminds me how disappointing it was to lose the MiLB season to a global pandemic. I had a mini season ticket package for the Express this year and would have liked to use the opportunity to familiarize myself with other organizational talent as well as the Astros. 

[TonyTexas 10513]

1 hour ago, htown85 said:

It’s going to be hard to attract/retain FA’s for awhile.  It will take a lot of money to offset the idea of going to play for one of the most hated teams in sports history.

That’s ridiculous 

[David Dennison 18860]

7 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

That’s ridiculous 

Perhaps, but it contains a modicum of truth. 

[Gourmand 7774]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Perhaps, but it contains a modicum of truth. 

No it doesn't. I understand how casual fans can be deluded into thinking it but it's really just an offshoot of a groupthink narrative by media and blue checkmarks on Twitter for likes and retweets. Free agent players aren't motivated by what fans think on Twitter.

 

[David Dennison 18860]

2 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

No it doesn't. I understand how casual fans can be deluded into thinking it but it's really just an offshoot of a groupthink narrative by media and blue checkmarks on Twitter for likes and retweets. Free agent players aren't motivated by what fans think on Twitter.

 

So you're saying Trevor Bauer would sign with the Astros if the price is right?

[David Dennison 18860]

NM

Edited October 18, 2020 by David Dennison

[LebongJames 1811]

20 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So you're saying Trevor Bauer would sign with the Astros if the price is right?

Maybe not that pussy but there are plenty of players that are looking to be on a contender and just saw what this team did in the post season. 
 

Crane caused most of this by caving. Players still want to play on the Patriots. He should have told Manfred to eat a dick.

[Gourmand 7774]

55 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

So you're saying Trevor Bauer would sign with the Astros if the price is right?

Yeah he would definitely

[Gourmand 7774]

HE GONE.

 

 

[Sleepygrad 1029]

 

[Limp Brisket 546]

3 hours ago, David Dennison said:

So you're saying Trevor Bauer would sign with the Astros if the price is right?

He would consider all offers.  But fuck him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2911934-trevor-bauer-will-consider-all-contract-offers-including-astros-as-free-agent.amp.html

[Rockethorn1978 6077]

Yea no way we sign springer. I just hope we are competitive this winter and make effort to see where are holes are at and aggressively fill them. 

[David Dennison 18860]

1 hour ago, Limp Brisket said:

He would consider all offers.  But fuck him.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2911934-trevor-bauer-will-consider-all-contract-offers-including-astros-as-free-agent.amp.html

Well that hypocritical ass hat.

Having said that, I'd take him.

Edited October 19, 2020 by David Dennison

[WBT 20572]

Considering all the crying he did about stick'em and then obviously was using it this year, I don't think Bauer is taking any moral stances.

[Gourmand 7774]

Ohhhh shit Luhnow is going scorched earth on MLB, Yankees, and Red Sox. I can't wait. 

 

 

[HtownHorn 14682]

12 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Ohhhh shit Luhnow is going scorched earth on MLB, Yankees, and Red Sox. I can't wait. 

 

 

Interesting. Jeff going scorched earth is one way of handling this, of course, his reputation is completely trashed, so might as well take down some other teams that were obviously doing the same things the Astros were.

[David Dennison 18860]

4 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Interesting. Jeff going scorched earth is one way of handling this, of course, his reputation is completely trashed, so might as well take down some other teams that were obviously doing the same things the Astros were.

The Astros' punishment had to do with protecting brand name teams and MLB. Everyone with a brain knows the league is filthy with sign stealing using technology. The Astros were the scapegoat. It worked.

[Gourmand 7774]

I could be wrong though, he may be just talking about the Astros and trying to salvage his reputation. In fact, that's probably what makes the most sense. 

[UTexasFight 9450]

7 hours ago, Gourmand said:

 

I had never heard of him until the playoffs and this anecdote from Correa reminds me how disappointing it was to lose the MiLB season to a global pandemic. I had a mini season ticket package for the Express this year and would have liked to use the opportunity to familiarize myself with other organizational talent as well as the Astros. 

But we got bull riding coming to Dell Diamond in a few weeks!

 

...but yeah, not seeing any games at round rock this year sucked

[WBT 20572]

My guess is that with rumors of Hinch and Cora getting jobs that he's trying to get his name out there.