2020 Astros Season Thread

[Scraps 13747]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

The playoffs aren't even guaranteed to take place.  It's crazy to trade away anyone who has a shot at helping you down the road.

I haven't watched Cole pitch this year.  What's his problem?  Is it his control?  If he can throw 99 at the top and the bottom of the zone consistently then he's pretty much unhittable.  Surely the Yankees weren't stupid enough to mess with that.

The playoffs are going to happen...especially if they do this bubble plan 

[UTexasFight 9790]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

The playoffs aren't even guaranteed to take place.  It's crazy to trade away anyone who has a shot at helping you down the road.

I haven't watched Cole pitch this year.  What's his problem?  Is it his control?  If he can throw 99 at the top and the bottom of the zone consistently then he's pretty much unhittable.  Surely the Yankees weren't stupid enough to mess with that.

A 3.51 ERA is a “problem”? He was 3.95 with us last year at the same point 

 

the 10 HRA is definitely scary... looks like he learned a few things from JV.

[Mo Horn 8933]

Today would be a good day up trade Reddick, now that Tucker seems to have turned the corner. Josh is having a decent year, so value probably won't be higher. I'd do it even if we got 2 or 3 good prospects. No one else I'd move right now. 

[Scraps 13747]

With the injuries we have been having I wouldn't trade a capable OF body. We are already too thin.

[kevwun 16302]

With Springer's fondness for running in to walls and Uncle Mike's injury history, he's a good insurance policy.

Edited August 31, 2020 by kevwun

[Mo Horn 8933]

Both fair points, but he's in the final year of his contract and I'd be shocked if they re-sign him.  I'd rather get something in return. We have others who can fill in if needed.

[UTexasFight 9790]

1 hour ago, Mo Horn said:

Both fair points, but he's in the final year of his contract and I'd be shocked if they re-sign him.  I'd rather get something in return. We have others who can fill in if needed.

Aledmys, Stubbs or Straw?

 

meh

 

I cant imagine the prospect he’d bring in return would be worth having one of those guys as your 4th outfielder for half the season plus postseason.

 

[Scraps 13747]

Someone wake Click up and tell him we have been fucking pitching Biagini, James and Sneed 

[Scraps 13747]

Mets got our old friend Chirinos 

[Scraps 13747]

Not one person on twitter has confirmed the Astros have done nothing yet.  Very awkward.  

[Chuckie Finster 22979]

2 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Not one person on twitter has confirmed the Astros have done nothing yet.  Very awkward.  

Very strange.  Typically you'd have McTaggart or Chandler Rome chime in by now.

[Scraps 13747]

Yeah trades are still coming through so who knows.  

[WBT 20886]

2 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

Both fair points, but he's in the final year of his contract and I'd be shocked if they re-sign him.  I'd rather get something in return. We have others who can fill in if needed.

which is why you won't get anything for him

[TonyTexas 10685]

3 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

Today would be a good day up trade Reddick, now that Tucker seems to have turned the corner. Josh is having a decent year, so value probably won't be higher. I'd do it even if we got 2 or 3 good prospects. No one else I'd move right now. 

So you trade Reddick. Tucker plays right. Who do have DHing? Bad idea 👖 

[Scraps 13747]

A's/M's next two games already postponed.  

Hope they don't fuck up our shit 

[Chuckie Finster 22979]

I think there's something still out there.  Chandler Rome has yet to say a word about the Astros, but he did just retweet the random news that Ross Stripling got traded to the Jays.  I could be completely misinterpreting it, but it seems like a "chill out, stuff is still being revealed" move by him.

Edited August 31, 2020 by Chuckie Finster

[Scraps 13747]

McTaggart has said nothing happened.  It is all through replies though so far.  

Just very awkward by both of them.  They both sucked at their job today so far.  

[APMP 688]

I know this is not like any other trade deadline, but still a pretty stark difference between Luhnow and Click. Did we ever do ZERO when Luhnow was here?

[tx 3 putt 78475]

2020 and who’s going to come back soon ?

[runthebone 8322]

Sort of a bummer.  Still no word on JV

[henrygandorf 29223]

8 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

A 3.51 ERA is a “problem”? He was 3.95 with us last year at the same point 

 

the 10 HRA is definitely scary... looks like he learned a few things from JV.

3.91 now.  4bb today home vs the rays.

[The Dog 44775]

3.91 now.  4bb today home vs the rays.

[tx 3 putt 78475]

13 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

3.91 now.  4bb today home vs the rays.

that 5th inning was brutal for him 

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

Dp

[WBT 20886]

1 hour ago, Seasick Sailor said:

 

That thought had occurred to me.  We have all 10 left vs the Rangers, although that would have been better if they traded Lynn.  The other 7 are 2 vs the Dodgers and the upcoming 5 game series at Oakland.  

Meanwhile Oakland's schedule doesn't look too tough either but at least they have 3 vs San Diego and 3 vs the Dodgers.  It's going to be annoying if the division winning streak is snapped by 1 or 2 games when we play 8 of 10 head to head in Oakland.

Edited September 1, 2020 by WBT

[Scraps 13747]

So 27-0?

[TexArcher 38819]

2 hours ago, Seasick Sailor said:

 

Had this exact conversation with a buddy today.  Most of our schedule has already punted on this season.  We need to wreck shop and get a favorable playoff bracket.

[TonyTexas 10685]

 

[WBT 20886]

Was there some reason to think they wouldn't?

[Scraps 13747]

1 minute ago, WBT said:

Was there some reason to think they wouldn't?

Yes.  They were waiting on tests back from Sunday because of the A's guy being positive 

[Gourmand 7778]

 

Great news

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[IDIOTsavant 8673]

13 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Yes.  They were waiting on tests back from Sunday because of the A's guy being "positive" 

FIFY

[WBT 20886]

11 minutes ago, Scraps said:

Yes.  They were waiting on tests back from Sunday because of the A's guy being positive 

Ah, ok.  They talk about the opposing team everytime there's a positive but there has yet to be any team to team spread though, right?  All Laureanos to the contrary, that seems unlikely to happen.

[TonyTexas 10685]

2 minutes ago, WBT said:

Ah, ok.  They talk about the opposing team everytime there's a positive but there has yet to be any team to team spread though, right?  All Laureanos to the contrary, that seems unlikely to happen.

IDK But there have been games canceled because a previous opponent tested positive. 

[kevwun 16302]

The chances are low for players spreading it on the field, but I don't know if they've had a catcher or 1st basemen test positive yet.  They have the most close quarter contact with the opposing team.

[Fozzz 152]

21 hours ago, UTexasFight said:

A 3.51 ERA is a “problem”? He was 3.95 with us last year at the same point 

 

the 10 HRA is definitely scary... looks like he learned a few things from JV.

He's been somewhat worse this season -  .306 xwOBA versus around .270 xwOBA last year after the same number of starts.  He seems to have lowered his release point somewhat this year and his fastball is not nearly as dominant as it was last year.  

Still, I don't know why Astros fans are cheering on his struggles.  It just looks like butthurt about him signing elsewhere.  

[kevwun 16302]

I don't get why he messed with anything.  He's not really capable of improving on what he was doing last season.  If he hadn't off started the year struggling, it would have been one of the all-time great seasons for a starting pitcher.

Edited September 1, 2020 by kevwun

[Fozzz 152]

His release point last year was the highest of his career.  I imagine he realizes a higher release point --> higher effective spin on his fastball --> higher SwStr%.  He lowered it because, for whatever reason (could be a lingering injury or something else), he's physically uncomfortable throwing at that elevated release point.  Could also be because of some mechanical issue he can't find the zone with that release point.  

I note he also did a better job of clustering his FB/SL/CU release points last year, so maybe it's a mechanical issue.

Edited September 1, 2020 by Fozzz

[TonyTexas 10685]

Above Cole analysis blah blah blah. The only answer is Strom isn’t a Yankee coach. 

[The Dog 44775]

We're cheering Cole's struggles because he plays for the New York Yankees. It's nothing personal.

[Fozzz 152]

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

We're cheering Cole's struggles because he plays for the New York Yankees. It's nothing personal.

So if WS MVP George Springer signs with the Yankees next season after not receiving a competitive offer from the Astros, you would root for him to suck?  That's pretty stupid.  I would hope most fans would wish him success in any games not played against the Astros.

[WBT 20886]

Yeah, Cole seems like a good guy.  I hope he does well barring a playoff matchup.  And of course, I'll never root for the Yankees to win the WS.

[Scraps 13747]

man Cole ain't homegrown.  Fuck that dude.  I don't have any loyalty to him.  

Springer (and others who came up through the system) would be tough not to root for, but I give zero fucks about Cole.  I want him to fail miserably because I want the Yankees to fail miserably.  

[The Dog 44775]

47 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

So if WS MVP George Springer signs with the Yankees next season after not receiving a competitive offer from the Astros, you would root for him to suck?  That's pretty stupid.  I would hope most fans would wish him success in any games not played against the Astros.

Your point is invalid since Springer is clearly going to the Red Sox if he doesn't re-sign with Houston.

[Scraps 13747]

Just now, The Dog said:

Your point is invalid since Springer is clearly going to the Red Sox if he doesn't re-sign with Houston.

Mets...you heard it here first 

[tx 3 putt 78475]

1 hour ago, Scraps said:

Mets...you heard it here first 

Yeah the mets will have a new owner and they’ll be ready to spend 

 

also, hook cc site is opened up again 

[TonyTexas 10685]

1 hour ago, The Dog said:

Your point is invalid since Springer is clearly going to the Red Sox if he doesn't re-sign with Houston.

Yeah. I don’t think an older, expensive outfielder fits into the Sox rebuilding plans

[UTexasFight 9790]

The Cole treatment should be a surprise to no one

Carlos Beltran out front should have told ya.

 

but yeah, for my part, it’s only because he’s pitching for the MFY.

 

[UTexasFight 9790]

Let’s talk September baseball..

was posted earlier but 20 of the remaining 27 on the schedule are against Rangers, Angels, Mariners, D-Backs who are a lot thinner than they were before the trade deadline.
Other 7 are 5 vs Oakland, 2 vs Dodgers

 

I’ll take our AAAA team with a few MLB all stars mixed in to clean up on those ottoman of the barrel teams.

20-7 sounds about right.

would mean an “on pace” record of 105-57. Right at our 104-58 average the last three years.