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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yes but some have just causes. War being one, and back in the mid 2000s, I disagreed with their cause (I feel differently now). Protestors today block roadways, ruin art, and generally make people AGAINST their cause. Contrast that with what King did. Regardless if 2/3rd of the country saw him as an uppity negro in ‘66, there is no comparison. 

 

Ghandi- blocked roads, disrupted state industries. Incredibly unpopular with the not just the  British but the Indian client power structure.

MLK and SCLC- routinely blocked roads, inspired wild and violent overreaction and profound unpopularity not only with whites but many older black leaders who believed in gradualism and felt they were counter productive. 

Christians- two many examples of art smashing, chaos and defacement to list over the last 2000 years. So unpopular that Rome literally fed early Christian leaders to lions for fun and at one point were nearly driven to near extinction outside of India, Africa, Ireland and Syria/Turkey while Europeans worshiped a mishmash of local pagan deities, Roman gods, and flirted with Mithraism and other historic also-rans. 

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t recall ever hearing America thought he was the most dangerous negro in the land but rather than was ascribed to Malcolm X. . 

When I was an eighth grader in Kansas City, Missouri, I went over to one of the neighbor kids houses to listen to Sergeant Pepper on the hi-tech reel-to-reel tape player his parents had purchased for him.

I had a brief interaction with his mom, listening to the news, who gleefully told me,  “They just killed Martin Lucifer Coon!”

Experiences may vary. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

Ghandi- blocked roads, disrupted state industries. Incredibly unpopular with the not just the  British but the Indian client power structure.

MLK and SCLC- routinely blocked roads, inspired wild and violent overreaction and profound unpopularity not only with whites but many older black leaders who believed in gradualism and felt they were counter productive. 

Christians- two many examples of art smashing, chaos and defacement to list over the last 2000 years. So unpopular that Rome literally fed early Christian leaders to lions for fun and at one point were nearly driven to near extinction outside of India, Africa, Ireland and Syria/Turkey while Europeans worshiped a mishmash of local pagan deities, Roman gods, and flirted with Mithraism and other historic also-rans. 

I wasn’t aware they blocked roads. I’ve been duped. I still don’t see leadership near the quality of MLK and some other blacks of the civil rights era or Ghandi in any of these movements. 

I’m aware of early Christian periods, but I’m not sure why you’re lumping them in here. Did they protest?  Cause chaos?  Tell me more. 

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10 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m aware of early Christian periods, but I’m not sure why you’re lumping them in here. Did they protest?  Cause chaos?  Tell me more. 

That’s a funny question. Here’s this Jewish reform movement that spreads a political and economic message that rejects the entire social order, and says that the least respected members of society are the most blessed and vice versa, and that hated outsider minorities are beloved of Abrahams god, but Jewish custom pushes the Temple leadership into conflict with God’s greatest commandments.  That alarms the authorities so much that the founder is executed in the humiliating manner of robbers and murderers, and his followers are martyred for hundreds of years, as the message spreads across half the known world.

You’re asking me if that causes chaos or is a protest?

 

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30 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That’s a funny question. Here’s this Jewish reform movement that spreads a political and economic message that rejects the entire social order, and says that the least respected members of society are the most blessed and vice versa, and that hated outsider minorities are beloved of Abrahams god, but Jewish custom pushes the Temple leadership into conflict with God’s greatest commandments.  That alarms the authorities so much that the founder is executed in the humiliating manner of robbers and murderers, and his followers are martyred for hundreds of years, as the message spreads across half the known world.

You’re asking me if that causes chaos or is a protest?

 

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17 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t recall ever hearing America thought he was the most dangerous negro in the land but rather than was ascribed to Malcolm X. And I’ve read quite of unflattering MLK datapoints. I do agree with the basic tenor of your post. The memorializing of the man today is quite a reduction. 

It wasn't based on "unflattering data points."  Those came out later.

It was pure-dee racism and a threat to the mediocre white man order.

Similarly, you can't justify criticism of the BLM protests because their "leaders" are minor-league shitstains.  The movement itself was righteous, as was King's.

Both of them ignited a public dialog about the subject of their protests and MLK's with landmark legislation.  There's not been any landmark legislation as a result of BLM, but it's definitely under discussion.

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