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Seattle today:

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/07/thousands-of-protesters-gather-in-seattle-in-solidarity-with-portland-fire-breaks-out-at-site-of-youth-detention-facility-under-construction.html

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SEATTLE — Seattle police declared a riot Saturday following large demonstrations in the city’s Capitol Hill neighborhood and deployed flash bangs and pepper spray to try to clear an area near where weeks earlier people had set up an “occupied protest zone” that stretched for several blocks.

Via Twitter, police said they had made at least 16 arrests for assault on officers, obstruction and failure to disperse. They also said they were "investigating a possible explosive damage" to the walls of the city's East Precinct police station.

Authorities said rocks, bottles, fireworks and mortars were thrown at officers as they attempted to clear the area. One officer was hospitalized with a leg injury caused by an explosive.

Earlier, protesters in Seattle broke through a fence where a youth detention facility was being built, with some people setting a fire and damaging a portable trailer, authorities said.

Thousands of protesters had initially gathered peacefully near downtown in a show of solidarity with fellow demonstrators in Portland, Oregon, where tensions with federal law enforcement have boiled over during protests stemming from the killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

Initially there was no sign of law enforcement near the Seattle march. Later, Seattle Police said via Twitter that about a dozen people breached the construction site for the King County youth detention facility. Also, police said protesters broke out windows at a King County court facility.... (snip)

 

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Individuals spray painting on East Precinct at 12th and Pine and attempting to disable cameras and damage fence perimeter around building.

6:23 PM · Jul 25, 2020

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Aurora, CO today:

 

 

Some of the police twitter play by play:

 
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6h
 
If you are attending the #Protest at APD Headquarters today, you can refer to this thread for any protest updates and/or instructions. Please monitor the local weather, stay hydrated, and if you have any type of emergency, please call 911.
 
3h
 
UPDATE: There a group of people trying to push down the gate. Anyone who crosses the fence at the PD entrance is subject to arrest. Please remain peaceful.
 
UPDATE: The fence has been pushed down. Anyone who crosses is subject to arrest. Protestors are also shooting fireworks towards the building.
9:40 PM · Jul 25, 2020

2h

UPDATE: The protestors are no longer peaceful as they are now throwing objects, shining lasers, and shooting large fireworks at officers.

2h
 
UPDATE: We now have protestors that have broken windows to the courthouse and are inside of the building, attempting to start fires.

 

2h

UPDATE: There has been a fire started inside of an office in the courthouse. Protestors need to leave the area immediately.

2h
 
UPDATE: The protestors have torn down the wooden window coverings and are using them as shields. Others are still breaking windows on the courthouse and attempting to get inside of the building. Protestors need to leave the area or you are subject to arrest.
 
1h
 
UPDATE: The protestors are now using the sidewalk and are out of the roadways.
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  On 7/26/2020 at 5:44 AM, clapclapclap said:

Aurora, CO today:

 

 

Some of the police twitter play by play:

 
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6h
 
If you are attending the #Protest at APD Headquarters today, you can refer to this thread for any protest updates and/or instructions. Please monitor the local weather, stay hydrated, and if you have any type of emergency, please call 911.
 
3h
 
UPDATE: There a group of people trying to push down the gate. Anyone who crosses the fence at the PD entrance is subject to arrest. Please remain peaceful.
 
UPDATE: The fence has been pushed down. Anyone who crosses is subject to arrest. Protestors are also shooting fireworks towards the building.
9:40 PM · Jul 25, 2020

2h

UPDATE: The protestors are no longer peaceful as they are now throwing objects, shining lasers, and shooting large fireworks at officers.

2h
 
UPDATE: We now have protestors that have broken windows to the courthouse and are inside of the building, attempting to start fires.

 

2h

UPDATE: There has been a fire started inside of an office in the courthouse. Protestors need to leave the area immediately.

2h
 
UPDATE: The protestors have torn down the wooden window coverings and are using them as shields. Others are still breaking windows on the courthouse and attempting to get inside of the building. Protestors need to leave the area or you are subject to arrest.
 
1h
 
UPDATE: The protestors are now using the sidewalk and are out of the roadways.
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  On 7/26/2020 at 1:15 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How is this not going to be political since the protests and responses are political in nature?

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Keep the “who’s right and who’s wrong and here’s why because my side is better than your side” out of it and merely show what people are doing?  There are plenty of bad actors to go around.  
 

Contemplate what people are doing to each other, the people that are being affected by the bad actors, try your best to be a better human being than them and love your fellow man.  We are tearing each other apart and no end is in sight.

If you want to get all stupid political and despise “the other side” then the CR has plenty of threads for you to peruse and you can participate until you’re hardened heart is all burned up and there is no joy left in life because “muh politics” rules your life and you can’t and won’t  lay it down. 
 

Not saying specifically you have a hardened heart but plenty of people on this board do.  
 

And that’s a shame.  

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  On 7/26/2020 at 1:15 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

How is this not going to be political since the protests and responses are political in nature?

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I would like to think that being against the murder of innocent Black people is an apolitical issue.  If there are elected officials that are somehow for it, then yeah---move that to the CR.

Can we at least question some of the tactics being shown here?  I'm a staunch believer in the BLM matter movement, but what was with that first guy in the safety vest in the first Aurora, CO post?  We've all been driving down the highway and suddenly there's a backup of cars, so yeah---we have to hit the brakes. The protest guy unnecessarily escalates the situation by throwing his bike in front of the SUV and then confronting the driver.  I'm pretty sure the driver was right about to see all the people and parked cars.  Now, you've got an escalation, who knows who has a weapon, and now we've got a situation similar to what happened in Austin earlier this morning.  

Pro tip to protestors---just like somebody got wise in Portland and started bringing leaf blowers...one of y'all that feels the need the block off streets or exit ramps or anything like that...do yourself and your cause a favor, crowdfund $100 and go to Academy or Home Depot and invest in some fucking CONES.  Use the cones to block off the part of the road instead of human beings.  Drivers respond just as well to cones as they do to screaming protestors.  And it's a fuckton safer than standing out on the highway shouting instructions at them (that they can't fucking hear) and throwing bicycles at them.  9 out of 10 drivers are gonna see a wall of cones, stop, and turn around.  Or at least proceed extremely slowly until they know what's what.  

Anyway, the nation has proven that it got markedly dummer with the advent of the internet, not smarter.  Why should our protestors and our law enforcement be any different?  They're just people, too...subject to the same intelligence bell curve as the rest of us watching it all unfold.  

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But doesn't that kind of get to the root of somethings everybody agrees on in America?  1st Amendment good.  Agents of the 'State' killing innocent people, not good.  

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Well, I think that the only proper response to this thread is the same that we get when it's a discussion of cops: just a few bad apples, there's not really a problem here at all.

Right?

OR....maybe we should stand for the dual principles that 1) people who break the law, particularly with acts of violence, should face consequences, and 2) covering for the bad actors, on an institutional basis, is similarly shitty.

I'll suggest that you see a marked divergence between the cops and the protesters on point #2 (as might be understood -- cops have had decades as an organized group to institutionalize omerta), but I'll also note that there's more of #1 among both groups than any of us should be comfortable with.

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  On 7/26/2020 at 8:35 PM, Herpa Derpa said:

Yep.

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Got me. My fat fingers do not work well on an iPhone 7 keyboard.  Besides I was obviously referring to the lake in Germany, Dummer. I walked right into that one.  Tooshay.  

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why the fuck do people always run to these threads and argue that it's political?

If you want to talk politics around these events there's a board for that

If you want to discuss moderation of threads like this there is a board for that.

Posts after this one in this thread that are political, our team, your team, or discuss moderation will result in some time off.

 

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Hopefully this is not political. Just sad that this is America right now. How the fuck did we get here? How the fuck do we recover from this? Or do we ever recover from this?

Those questions are rhetorical, don't answer or everyone will start blaming everyone else. 

 

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  On 7/27/2020 at 3:26 PM, crash_davis said:

Hopefully this is not political. Just sad that this is America right now. How the fuck did we get here? How the fuck do we recover from this? Or do we ever recover from this?

Those questions are rhetorical, don't answer or everyone will start blaming everyone else. 

 

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She deserves it for wearing her mask under her chin

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You see more and more where folks are pointing guns at each other, at point blank range, and don't back down. That scares me. You gotta be very angry to stare down a bullet when you could just walk away. And I don't see any reason it won't escalate. Somebody is gonna shoot somebody in the face.

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  On 7/27/2020 at 4:41 PM, Parliament said:

You see more and more where folks are pointing guns at each other, at point blank range, and don't back down. That scares me. You gotta be very angry to stare down a bullet when you could just walk away. And I don't see any reason it won't escalate. Somebody is gonna shoot somebody in the face.

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  On 7/27/2020 at 3:26 PM, crash_davis said:

Hopefully this is not political. Just sad that this is America right now. How the fuck did we get here? How the fuck do we recover from this? Or do we ever recover from this?

Those questions are rhetorical, don't answer or everyone will start blaming everyone else. 

 

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With all due respect, do you remember American History class? Pullman strike, NYC Civil War draft/race riots, Bonus Army, Chicago 1968, Kent State? Hell, even Elian Gonzales?

 

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I’ve never carried a gun in my car before. I am not a CHL holder or a member of the NRA. I do have a few guns that I keep for home protection, but I am not one of those people that go to gun ranges every weekend and practice for shootouts. All of that being said, after watching the behavior of these protesters I am more likely to make sure I am armed from now on. I will not be left defenseless if I am on some road just trying to get from point A to point B safely and efficiently. Fortunately, I WFH now and don’t have much cause to go anywhere other than H-E-B and the liquor store. While I agree with the reason for the protests, these have gotten completely out of control. They need to come to an end so that a way forward can be discussed peacefully. The support for these protest was fairly unanimous after the George Floyd murder, but I suspect the longer this goes on the more that support erodes.

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  On 7/27/2020 at 4:59 PM, Armybrat said:

With all due respect, do you remember American History class? Pullman strike, NYC Civil War draft/race riots, Bonus Army, Chicago 1968, Kent State? Hell, even Elian Gonzales?

 

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you missed one...........

The Miss America protest was a demonstration held at the Miss America 1969 contest on September 7, 1968, attended by about 200 feminists and civil rights advocates. ... The bra-burning trope was permanently attached to the event and became a catch-phrase of the feminist era.

 

 

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These guys are super organized. Moving as a unit, mixing in with the protesters then changing clothes when they get close to the statue. Sharpening the PVC Pipe used to hold up the banners, bringing carts with weapons, using umbrellas to cover their movements from ahead until the got within reach of the police. 

 

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  On 7/27/2020 at 8:20 PM, MillerEP said:
Top video, forgive the bottom video. Looking for the top footage by itself. Not trying to be political.

 

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Is the whole city on fire, or are they trying to burn down the courthouse?  It can't be both, incendiary devices don't work like that.  He made the news statement, so now he has to explain himself.  

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"No 19th Hole, no peace!"

#PuttPuttRiots

https://nypost.com/2020/07/27/hundreds-of-teens-go-on-chaotic-rampage-at-memphis-putt-putt-center/

Hundreds of teens go on chaotic rampage at Memphis putt-putt center

These teens were teed-off.

A Tennessee mini-golf center erupted in chaos Saturday night when 300 to 400 teenagers began terrorizing staffers and smashing up the premises because the game machines ate their cash, Jam Press reported...

 

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  On 7/27/2020 at 8:30 PM, Lobo said:

Is the whole city on fire, or are they trying to burn down the courthouse?  It can't be both, incendiary devices don't work like that.  He made the news statement, so now he has to explain himself.  

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I actually went down to the Portland protest on Friday. It's just next to the courthouse.

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  On 7/27/2020 at 8:56 PM, MillerEP said:

Unfortunately, the only way to get the source video is to embed the entire tweet, unless you know of a better way.

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It’s just funny you’re only sharing vids and pics from right-wing sources. You’d never dream of posting the police brutality vids celery & brisket shared, and they’d never dream of posting the vandalism vids you’re sharing. It’s why trying to keep “politics” out of a thread like this is pointless.

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  On 7/27/2020 at 9:02 PM, Helobious said:

It’s just funny you’re only sharing vids and pics from right-wing sources. You’d never dream of posting the police brutality vids celery & brisket shared, and they’d never dream of posting the vandalism vids you’re sharing. It’s why trying to keep “politics” out of a thread like this is pointless.

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We could just all post our own videos and STFU?

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