Surly Megathread of destruction and doom. [BEWARE VERY DOOMY]

[Pasken 1309]

The Michael Ramos video just came out from Austin PD today so you can expect more protests in Austin when people see this:

 

[ChickenSandwich 9849]

Two protesters shot when Jeep drives through freeway protest in Colorado

 

[BabaYaga 15305]

15 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

Two protesters shot when Jeep drives through freeway protest in Colorado

 

To clarify what happened:  "A "protester" in Aurora, Colorado opened fire on a Jeep attempting to pass through the crowd which was illegally blocking the I-225 freeway. He hit two fellow "protesters" when he discharged his weapon. The Jeep suffered damage but the driver was unharmed."

It takes a real special kind of idiot to start firing with zero regard for the people behind the target.

UPDATE:  apparently he's an RA at CU and turned himself into the local PD.  LOL, after some of the winners I remember placed into "authority" positions as RA's....this makes sense....Jeeps tires slashed by people when they stopped.  

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by BabaYaga

[MillerEP 30494]

[MillerEP 30494]

 

[Wally Pryor 5262]

 

 

Portland.  No doubt the business got trashed soon after. 

Simply protesting is now such a far-fetched concept.    Why do so when destroying is much more fun.

 

 

 

[blacklab 11943]

1 hour ago, Helobious said:

So we can make very political posts in this thread, so long as we say “not trying to be political” after.

You can post videos, some of which are inside tweets that have other content.

Post a tweet that's all political content with a random static image, you're taking a day off like elguapo is

I swear to god you people are insufferable. 

I enjoy threads like this. I have no idea, nor do I care about the politics behind the people making these tweets. I find what is happening on the videos newsworthy and worth watching. 

If you don't like it don't come in this thread. 

[ChickenSandwich 9849]

5 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

 

 

Portland.  No doubt the business got trashed soon after. 

Simply protesting is now such a far-fetched concept.    Why do so when destroying is much more fun.

 

 

 

It’s our new normal. 

[MillerEP 30494]

 

[MissingInAction 25171]

18 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

 

No sound but saw a couple folks hit the ground. Were shots fired?

Also I give this crew 3:1 odds against the Colonel Hamburger brigades of fat incels open carrying.

Edit: accidental discharge. Perhaps the incel brigade has better trigger discipline. 

Edited July 27, 2020 by MissingInAction

[MillerEP 30494]

9 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

No sound but saw a couple folks hit the ground. Were shots fired?

Also I give this crew 3:1 oddsagaints the Colonel Hamburger brigades of fat incels open carrying.

They accidentally shot each other with a negligent discharge

https://abcnews.go.com/US/members-armed-militia-shot-breonna-taylor-protest/story?id=71990031

 

These are the same guys a three weeks ago in Georgia who were demanding they be given Texas, or some other plot of land:

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by MillerEP

[MillerEP 30494]

I think this is the protesters chasing down and getting the Antifa member who stabbed the black guy in the earlier post, and turning him into the police:

 

[Teddy KGB 1]

 

[MillerEP 30494]

Chicago PD giving a briefing to explain the earlier video I posted, that shows just how organized these umbrella guys were, mixing with the crowd:

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by MillerEP

[Teddy KGB 1]

 

[Teddy KGB 1]

 

[MillerEP 30494]

Some of the most interesting graffiti, from the gallery I posted earlier:

[MillerEP 30494]

Irony with the Store Name:

 

[MillerEP 30494]

That Scooter

[MillerEP 30494]

Peeking out of the corner. I see you:

 

[MillerEP 30494]

 

[MillerEP 30494]

First Scooters, now bikes:

Edited July 27, 2020 by MillerEP

[MillerEP 30494]

What is the 12? 

Longer vid:

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by MillerEP

[MillerEP 30494]

I'm guessing Cardboard was a bad idea

German?

[MillerEP 30494]

Aftermath

 

Edited July 27, 2020 by MillerEP

[HRSchenker 2273]

12 = DEA

[Brothahorn 10087]

I still don't understand what destroying public/private property has to do with seeking justice. Especially in the middle of the night.

[Message Board User 12396]

3 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

I still don't understand what destroying public/private property has to do with seeking justice. Especially in the middle of the night.

Dude. 

Don't ask questions; just be outraged.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13119]

11 minutes ago, Message Board User said:

Dude. 

Don't ask questions; just be outraged.

What if we end up outraged at those who are outraged, and those the outraged are outraged with?

Oh dear, I’ve gone cross-eyed...

[Guest Lobo]

One thing that's fun is that people protesting (though I sometimes disagree with their tactics) against racial discrimination and institutional racism, usually win out when history is written.  And the people opposing them (their thematics and their tactics) are typically discarded into the Wal-Mart discount bin of history. 

[MillerEP 30494]

https://nypost.com/2020/07/26/insurgents-target-nypd-cars-light-fires-in-chaotic-city-scene/

Demonstrators target NYPD vehicles, light fires in chaotic city scene
By Larry Celona and Aaron FeisJuly 26, 2020 | 7:40pm | Updated
 

 

Edited July 28, 2020 by MillerEP

[Hate 20136]

26 minutes ago, Lobo said:

One thing that's fun is that people protesting (though I sometimes disagree with their tactics) against racial discrimination and institutional racism, usually win out when history is written.  And the people opposing them (their thematics and their tactics) are typically discarded into the Wal-Mart discount bin of history. 

I agree that peaceful protest against racial discrimination change things.  It absolutely takes too long to change, but what is going on right now doesn't help imo.  I think the nation gets further and further divided every day that this stuff goes on. 

[StruggleBus 3922]

33 minutes ago, Lobo said:

One thing that's fun is that people protesting (though I sometimes disagree with their tactics) against racial discrimination and institutional racism, usually win out when history is written.  And the people opposing them (their thematics and their tactics) are typically discarded into the Wal-Mart discount bin of history. 

That’s a pathetic attempt at excusing ridiculous  behavior. “Yeah well, we fucked a bunch of shit up and ruined plenty of innocent lives, but we’re on the right side of history, bitches!”

 

[Guest Lobo]

I literally just got done saying "I sometimes disagree with their tactics."  Which means, I did not excuse all behaviors.  You read about as well as the people you quietly discriminate against at parties.  

[Message Board User 12396]

This is a good account by someone actually there on the ground.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MikeBalsamo1/status/1287606651491516420

[Brisketexan 105273]

That’s a pathetic attempt at excusing ridiculous  behavior. “Yeah well, we fucked a bunch of shit up and ruined plenty of innocent lives, but we’re on the right side of history, bitches!”
 

But here’s the thing...no matter what they did, you would find a reason to criticize them. The folks who oppose the “violent” protesters also oppose peaceful protesters. They always find some basis to criticize or delegitimize whatever they do. Ask Kapernick. Ask John Lewis (well, not anymore). Violence just gives a convenient excuse to dismiss them entirely...but you’d dismiss them without the violence, too.

[Helobious 9464]

2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

That Scooter

First pic is a simple statement of fact.

[Incredulity 11682]

3 minutes ago, Helobious said:

First pic is a simple statement of fact.

Better than Wells Fargo though...

[closetohumping 17458]

[Guest Lobo]

2 hours ago, MillerEP said:

 

 

If you squint close enough, those papers, under the red stapler...on the right side say, "That's the last straw...I'm burning this place to the ground"  

Milton and Idiocracy warned us.  No salt...no salt in the margaritas...

Edited July 28, 2020 by Lobo

[Buzzrock 14936]

But here’s the thing...no matter what they did, you would find a reason to criticize them. The folks who oppose the “violent” protesters also oppose peaceful protesters. They always find some basis to criticize or delegitimize whatever they do. Ask Kapernick. Ask John Lewis (well, not anymore). Violence just gives a convenient excuse to dismiss them entirely...but you’d dismiss them without the violence, too.

Brisket.

Plenty of people support peaceful protest and denounce violence.

[Hate 20136]

36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But here’s the thing...no matter what they did, you would find a reason to criticize them. The folks who oppose the “violent” protesters also oppose peaceful protesters. They always find some basis to criticize or delegitimize whatever they do. Ask Kapernick. Ask John Lewis (well, not anymore). Violence just gives a convenient excuse to dismiss them entirely...but you’d dismiss them without the violence, too.

Most of America seemed really ready to listen until the violence started.  And I wouldn't say that John Lewis was "delegitimized".  He was a very big part of real change in this country and was elected to the US House of Representatives 17 times.  He laid in State when he died.  I wouldn't call that "deligitimizing". 

[Incredulity 11682]

25 minutes ago, Lobo said:

If you squint close enough, those papers, under the red stapler...on the right side say, "That's the last straw...I'm burning this place to the ground"  

Milton and Idiocracy warned us.  No salt...no salt in the margaritas...

Pinche gringo

[StruggleBus 3922]

45 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But here’s the thing...no matter what they did, you would find a reason to criticize them. 

That’s bullshit. As was the rest of your predictably useless post.

[Brisketexan 105273]

Most of America seemed really ready to listen until the violence started.  And I wouldn't say that John Lewis was "delegitimized".  He was a very big part of real change in this country and was elected to the US House of Representatives 17 times.  He laid in State when he died.  I wouldn't call that "deligitimizing". 

That’s how he ended up. Not how it went when he was, you know....protesting. The majority of America opposed MLK, opposed the peaceful civil rights movement, etc. Just like the people who wring their hands about “violence” today also called Kapernick a price of shit, etc. Lewis actually makes my point kinda perfectly.

The whole “gosh, they hurt their cause by allowing violence” just rings utterly hollow when it invariably comes from people who somehow, amazingly, find a reason to criticize every movement for racial and social reform and justice. There’s nothing they can do to earn the critics’ support...so why should they listen to their criticism? You’ll hate them no matter what they do.

[ABSR 5321]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

One thing that's fun is that people protesting (though I sometimes disagree with their tactics) against racial discrimination and institutional racism, usually win out when history is written.  And the people opposing them (their thematics and their tactics) are typically discarded into the Wal-Mart discount bin of history. 

But those people are not protesting racial discrimination and institutional racism.  They are rioting to destroy shit.  

[Rougarou 594]

1 hour ago, Lobo said:

One thing that's fun is that people protesting (though I sometimes disagree with their tactics) against racial discrimination and institutional racism, usually win out when history is written.  And the people opposing them (their thematics and their tactics) are typically discarded into the Wal-Mart discount bin of history. 

Except Occupy Wallstreet. That is the one time I can recall people were like, "uh. the window has closed, i think. can you maybe go get a job now?". I guess that's the difference between rioting for equality versus a glorified homeless camp because rich bankers exist.

[Rougarou 594]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

But here’s the thing...no matter what they did, you would find a reason to criticize them. The folks who oppose the “violent” protesters also oppose peaceful protesters. They always find some basis to criticize or delegitimize whatever they do. Ask Kapernick. Ask John Lewis (well, not anymore). Violence just gives a convenient excuse to dismiss them entirely...but you’d dismiss them without the violence, too.

So, are you saying that "non-violence" doesn't work? Your post sounded like "they won't listen when we ask nicely so now we are gonna bust heads."

What's next when nobody listens after rioting in the streets and burning a bunch of Autozones and looting foot lockers?

You are justifying that, what next? Justify hurting people? What's the next step in the escalation process when the powers that be will not listen to this, like they don't listen to anything before?

[Hate 20136]

That’s how he ended up. Not how it went when he was, you know....protesting. The majority of America opposed MLK, opposed the peaceful civil rights movement, etc. Just like the people who wring their hands about “violence” today also called Kapernick a price of shit, etc. Lewis actually makes my point kinda perfectly.

 

The whole “gosh, they hurt their cause by allowing violence” just rings utterly hollow when it invariably comes from people who somehow, amazingly, find a reason to criticize every movement for racial and social reform and justice. There’s nothing they can do to earn the critics’ support...so why should they listen to their criticism? You’ll hate them no matter what they do.

I won’t hate the protestors and in fact support them. And when he was peacefully protesting he made progress. And when he lead peacefully he made progress. It didn’t happen as fast as any one of would have liked, but it happened. The destruction makes it more polarizing. Hell, even Kapernick was changing minds peacefully. He had to sacrifice a career to do so, but he was doing it...peacefully.

[Brisketexan 105273]

So, are you saying that "non-violence" doesn't work? Your post sounded like "they won't listen when we ask nicely so now we are gonna bust heads."
What's next when nobody listens after rioting in the streets and burning a bunch of Autozones and looting foot lockers?
You are justifying that, what next? Justify hurting people? What's the next step in the escalation process when the powers that be will not listen to this, like they don't listen to anything before?

I am absolutely saying that nonviolence doesn’t work...but let me explain that a bit. Nonviolence by the protesters eventually works....because of the violence committed by the opposition. Civil rights marches didn’t do shit....images of hoses and dogs being turned on marchers did. Birmingham strikes did little...four murdered little girls changed a lot.

Society doesn’t change until it is made to feel very, very uncomfortable.

I’ve gone on record around here that women, children, and clergy need to be on the front lines, peacefully....where the police will beat, shoot, and gas them.

I’m also saying that most all of the folks who are criticizing the movement for violence criticized it before violence, too. They aren’t against violence (note that they’re not upset about the cops shooting people with their hands up in the face - violence is awesome...when it’s their guys committing it). They’re against the cause, and violence gives them cover to characterize their stance as moral. But take away the violence, and they’ll find another reason. I mean, Kapernick was practically spitting in the faces of our brave troops! (Even though a veteran and longhorn suggested kneeling as a protest to him).

Go dig through the posts of the loudest voices around here decrying the violence. You’ll see most of them as the loudest critics of nonviolent protests and statements over the years. There’s only one thing that minorities and less-favored folks can do to make them happy: shut up, and take your beating and fucking with a smile.

Understandably, some folks have said “fuck that.” Some of them have even exploded into violence. Maybe we shouldn’t tell people to shut the fuck up and take it for decades - that tends to lead to civil unrest.