Liverpool FC: 20 for 20-21

[maninblack 7974]

 

Here's a couple videos of Kostas

 

[maninblack 7974]

Thiago scuttlebutt

 

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

14 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Good to know. Did they taper the sides?

not anything like the vapor kit. But trimmer than some other brands. This fits me a little more snugly in an XL than the 08-09 home Adidas L did. And a little less snugly than the 17-18 L  New Balance. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

47 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Thiago scuttlebutt

 

30m seems high for a guy his age, but what do I know. 

[maninblack 7974]

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

30m seems high for a guy his age, but what do I know. 

I'd guess it'd be lower but potentially with kickers attached.

[406W30th 1111]

More Sarr gossip – Watford apparently demanding £40M

We should offer £15M plus Harry Wilson.

[maninblack 7974]

That's steep for Sarr

[pied 252]

Seems like Werner money, no?  

I don't know much about Sarr, but give me Werner > Sarr and FSG thought that was too much moolah.

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

Werner got more than £200k a week in wages. Doubt Sarr would be above £75k. But don’t see us paying anywhere near £40m

[Jive Turkey 12598]

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Unpopular opinion: Yuck.

[406W30th 1111]

The deal for Werner also required a lump sum in order to activate his release clause. I doubt we pay that much for Sarr but he was Watford's record signing last season at £30M, so there gonna want something in that neighborhood. Then again, they don't have PL money anymore.

 

[pied 252]

2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Unpopular opinion: Yuck.

Don't know that it's unpopular.  It's bottom ~3 in the past 10 years.  Whatever though, sign _______ and it's fine.

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

I don’t think it’s bottom 3. It’s not a bad color in person.
 

Warrior was terrible with away/3rd Jerseys. 12-13 3rd jersey was some tribal tattoo piece of shit,13-14 road and 3rd jerseys were god awful and I’m sure we’ve had some worse alternate jerseys in the last decade (yellow warrior ones come to mind).

[pied 252]

22 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

I don’t think it’s bottom 3. It’s not a bad color in person.
 

Warrior was terrible with away/3rd Jerseys. 12-13 3rd jersey was some tribal tattoo piece of shit,13-14 road and 3rd jerseys were god awful and I’m sure we’ve had some worse alternate jerseys in the last decade (yellow warrior ones come to mind).

The only ones in that category IMO are the 13/14  Away and 3rd.

 

 

 

 

I didn't really like the 18/19 3rd or the first 3rd 

 

but the rest were either OK, or pretty good IMO.  This one is bad.  

 

 

[pied 252]

Here are the H/A/3 shirts fot eh last few years.

https://www.subsidesports.com/uk/liverpool-football-shirt-archive

 

19/20   

 

18/19   

 

 

17/18    

 

 

16/17      

 

15/16      

 

[pied 252]

14/15       

 

13/14      

 

12/13      

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

New Balance was a huge improvement on Warrior. 

this one is 💯 worse than our 20-21 away kit. 
 

 

[pied 252]

7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

New Balance was a huge improvement on Warrior. 

this one is 💯 worse than our 20-21 away kit. 
 

 

 

 

I disagree.

 

  

[406W30th 1111]

Man, looking back through our recent kit history is really something. We consistently have some of the worst kits of the big clubs.   

[406W30th 1111]

Thiago move heating up. We've officially made contact but apparently don't want to meet the €30M fee that Bayern is demanding. He's only got a year left on his contract, yeah? That's a lotta coin for a 29-year old who can't seem to stay healthy but he's also world class, so there's that.

Guessing this one happens as soon as Bayern are done w/ CL.

[maninblack 7974]

 

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

I’m all in on Thiago. Guy is a maestro. And I want us to resign Gini. Our multi-billionaire owners can find a way. Sell Wilson or Grujic. 

[pied 252]

Landed in Austria(not France due to Covid). 
 

 

[mdmost 43001]

I'd call that an upgrade. It's wild that they had about 2 weeks off. 

Going back to the kit discussion, the 2012-2013 home shirt is my favorite of the Warrior>New Balance era. Whole lot of crappy kits though in that time. 2017-2018 to present were all pretty great home kits. Away and 3rd kits are always crap to me though I have the orange 2017-2018 one from my trip to Anfield. My favorite is still the 2008 Adidas home kit with the Carlsberg sponsorship and the old crest. 

Edited August 15, 2020 by mdmost

[maninblack 7974]

11 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

I’m all in on Thiago. Guy is a maestro. And I want us to resign Gini. Our multi-billionaire owners can find a way. Sell Wilson or Grujic. 

I get the impression Gini just wants to go somewhere else at this point. 

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

[Jive Turkey 12598]

 

[Jive Turkey 12598]

It’s happening?

 

Edited August 16, 2020 by Jive Turkey

[Jive Turkey 12598]

Or not. 

 

[mdmost 43001]

Hope they get it done. I agree with mib, I think Gini wants a new challenge. Thiago is a great replacement. We need another striker. Any updates on Sarr?

Edited August 16, 2020 by mdmost

[maninblack 7974]

 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Watching City and the Mancs get ousted from their tournaments was a sweet bit of Schadenfreude. 

[mdmost 43001]

The Pep one was more enjoyable. Put all his eggs in the UEFA basket and still came up empty. Curious what this means for them going forward. His act has to be wearing thin with the players. It wouldn't shock me to see them go for one more time with him by spending big. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

17 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The Pep one was more enjoyable. Put all his eggs in the UEFA basket and still came up empty. Curious what this means for them going forward. His act has to be wearing thin with the players. It wouldn't shock me to see them go for one more time with him by spending big. 

With the season starting in a few weeks, they'd by hard pressed to find another manager of Pep's quality. I'm sure they are going to be prepared for a quick trigger if things don't go well this fall.

[406W30th 1111]

City is not going to replace Pep this year but I think it might be his last season with them. The club owners want Champions League above all else and he's failed to deliver. Not many managers better than Pep but I would guess they'd settle for Simeone or Pocchetino after failing to get Zidane.

 

[mdmost 43001]

I wasn't implying they'd sack him before the season starts. I'm saying I bet they go big with spending on players one last time with him and if he can't deliver this coming season with UEFA, he's out. 

Edited August 17, 2020 by mdmost

[ztejas 43449]

2 hours ago, maninblack said:

 

That's disgusting 

[mdmost 43001]

Neco Williams signed a new long-term contract. 

[406W30th 1111]

Marko Grujic has been linked with a permanent £13M move to Werder Bremen. Hard to see him with a future at Liverpool and I guess that's a decent fee in this market.

 

[maninblack 7974]

I know it's a depressed market but anything less than 20M for Grujic would suck

[mdmost 43001]

Hertha Berlin has shown some interest in keeping him. Maybe Edwards can play the two off one another. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

4 minutes ago, maninblack said:

I know it's a depressed market but anything less than 20M for Grujic would suck

51 appearances for Hertha in two seasons. 24 years old.

We should be easily getting 20M for him.

[pied 252]

How much did we pay for him, ~5M?

[406W30th 1111]

8 hours ago, pied said:

How much did we pay for him, ~5M?

We paid just under £6M. Over the past few seasons, we recouped £3.3M in loan fees. 

[pied 252]

Love him, hate him and/or always frustrated by him, he'll always be a Red.

 

 

 

[mdmost 43001]

A couple of friendlies coming up

 

[pied 252]

So nothing on the COVD rumors that were out yesterday.  The way we're continuing and have friendlies scheduled, I'm guessing no big deal or bad info.

[Firemans4Horn 18049]

Rumor was it could be player or staff. If staff they probably retested everybody and isolated the staff member. 

[Cheeseweasel 26438]

Fixtures for this year:

 

2020-21 Premier League fixture list

September
12 – Leeds United (H)
19 – Chelsea (A)
26 – Arsenal (H)

October
3 – Aston Villa (A)
17 – Everton (A)
24 – Sheffield United (H)
31 – West Ham United (H)

November
7 – Manchester City (A)
21 – Leicester City (H)
28 – Brighton & Hove Albion (A)

December
5 – Wolverhampton Wanderers (H)
12 – Fulham (A)
16 – Tottenham Hotspur (H)
19 – Crystal Palace (A)
26 – West Bromwich Albion (H)
28 – Newcastle United (A)

January
2 – Southampton (A)
13 – Burnley (H)
16 – Manchester United (H)
27 – Tottenham Hotspur (A)
30 – West Ham United (A)

February
3 – Brighton & Hove Albion (H)
6 – Manchester City (H)
13 – Leicester City (A)
20 – Everton (H)
27 – Sheffield United (A)

March
6 – Fulham (H)
13 – Wolverhampton Wanderers (A)
20 – Chelsea (H)

April
3 – Arsenal (A)
10 – Aston Villa (H)
17 – Leeds United (A)
24 – Newcastle United (H)

May
1 – Manchester United (A)
8 – Southampton (H)
11 – West Bromwich Albion (A)
15 – Burnley (A)
23 – Crystal Palace (H)