So, am I getting another $3900 check? Should I?

[RDCanecutter 26281]

4 minutes ago, Ten Bears said:

I would pay to watch the adventures of Tex and Tammi.  And especially Bette.

Bette's voice actor was a woman from Paris with an Eartha Kitt vibe going on. She'd make you think thoughts.

[Biff Tannen 45497]

This thread has taken an awesome turn. Edouard the bbq hating snail. Corey the X-files watching cockroach. God bless the internet. Except for social media and the Q people, of course. 

[RDCanecutter 26281]

It's a little known fact that when the had the Irish building the railroad in the east, and the Chinese building it in the west, there were various Canecutters here and there, derailing it.

[Ten Bears 2479]

For which side?

nttiawwt

[atomheartbevo 89449]

4 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

And that's why I still like the ornery old man

Guess who is tweeting out support for Bernie's actions at 1:53am East Coast time?

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I honestly am thinking Trump does not give one shit if Mitch loses the Senate to the Dems

You are correct. Trump doesn’t give a shit. If they lose the senate, he can blame the lack of support for him. If the keep the senate, he can take credit. But in no way does he give a shit either way 

[Js1 85110]

 

[atomheartbevo 89449]

Trump is raging on Twitter against Republicans for overriding him and not doing enough about PA, and is calling for new Republican leadership in Congress.  And like clockwork he keeps coming back to $2000

 

[Js1 85110]

I'm surprised he isn't going with "$2000 - AND JINA WILL PAY FOR IT!" 

[atomheartbevo 89449]

42 minutes ago, Js1 said:

 

I think they are at 6 R Senators who have publicly said they support it now.  The Georgia Senators must be seeing polling that shows they need to support it, even at the risk of offending the fiscal conservatives.   That’s very interesting that they would cross that group.  

But they also don’t need Trump screaming at them a week before their election.  

[Js1 85110]

3 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I think they are at 6 R Senators who have publicly said they support it now.  The Georgia Senators must be seeing polling that shows they need to support it, even at the risk of offending the fiscal conservatives.   That’s very interesting that they would cross that group.  

But they also don’t need Trump screaming at them a week before their election.  

We all know how this plays out

Senate GOP leadership plays games, amends the House legislation to include the Section 230 and election fraud poison pills, Democrats refuse to vote for it, it fails, no one gets any money and somehow becomes Pelosi and Schumer's fault.   McConnell escapes without blame - ah well, nevertheless. 

[atomheartbevo 89449]

Just now, Js1 said:

We all know how this plays out

Senate GOP leadership plays games, amends the House legislation to include the Section 230 and election fraud poison pills, Democrats refuse to vote for it, it fails, no one gets any money and somehow becomes Pelosi and Schumer's fault.   McConnell escapes without blame - ah well, nevertheless. 

Bernie will tie it up if that happens and too many people are now paying attention.   Perdue and Loeffler need this.  

[Francisco 2.0 32342]

12 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

He was born on a napkin. They had wanted some other character, who knows, mighta been cool. But what they wanted wasn't a French Armadillo with a cigarette and attitude. So I drew them that instead.

IIRC his back story is he fell asleep in a box in Houston, and ended up on a flight to France, where he grew up. Later, deported to Texas, he doubled down on the French snob aspect. The website is still active and includes an Aggy squirrel.

https://www.laits.utexas.edu/tex/

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

17 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I think they are at 6 R Senators who have publicly said they support it now.  The Georgia Senators must be seeing polling that shows they need to support it, even at the risk of offending the fiscal conservatives.   That’s very interesting that they would cross that group.  

But they also don’t need Trump screaming at them a week before their election.  

fiscal conservatives: conservatism   Proud boys: patriotism 

[Wulaw Horn 18981]

16 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Eh, people RVing and camping doesn’t really bother me. Hell, we could’ve fucking given every family an RV and told them to knock themselves out for two or three months doing whatever they wanted so long as restaurants and bars were closed and it would’ve been better than what we did. Every Buccees would’ve been an absolute shitshow, but that’s already been the case...

The bigger problem isn’t the “hey my family and I went on road trips,” so much as the blithe context in which it was delivered (seemingly ignoring the utter devastation covid has wrought on many families because hey, we still got to watch football).

Again, sarcasm and putting something obviously minor in relation to shit that’s obviously major. 

[wildcat09 29257]

5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Again, sarcasm and putting something obviously minor in relation to shit that’s obviously major. 

Yeah man, I get it, but maybe consider that it wasn't really a good time for sarcasm?

[shnsajax 3589]

34 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I think they are at 6 R Senators who have publicly said they support it now.  The Georgia Senators must be seeing polling that shows they need to support it, even at the risk of offending the fiscal conservatives.   That’s very interesting that they would cross that group.  

But they also don’t need Trump screaming at them a week before their election.  

This is just part of the plan, get your headlines in that you support it. Have Mitch pass it, campaign on it for 6 days in hopes to win. $300 billion in additional costs to keep the Senate is totally worth it to Mitch. 

[Pasken 1309]

Mitch talking checks on the floor now

[Js1 85110]

31 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Bernie will tie it up if that happens and too many people are now paying attention.   Perdue and Loeffler need this.  

There needs to be 8 more yes votes to avoid some shit bag like Cruz filibustering it and hiding behind "the national debt." 

He'd do it too.  

[atomheartbevo 89449]

 

[Js1 85110]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

Guy who spent all year not supporting direct payments now suddenly supports giving people cash and *checks notes* blames Democrats for the lack of direct payments. 

[washparkhorn 9935]

Sen. Sanders speaking now on the Senate floor. 

[UpperWestside 6136]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

The lack of any kind of moral compass or innate goodness seems to be a pretty valuable trait to have when you have to lie on a scale such as this. 

[shnsajax 3589]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Guy who spent all year not supporting direct payments now suddenly supports giving people cash and *checks notes* blames Democrats for the lack of direct payments. 

There is actual video of this. I despise the GOP so much.

[UpperWestside 6136]

1 minute ago, shnsajax said:

There is actual video of this. I despise the GOP so much.

Bernie should just setup a TV on the senate floor and show an endless loop of what Perdue actually said about the checks. The lying at all costs to keep your senate seat is just incredible. 

[atomheartbevo 89449]

Mitch is gonna fuck around and find out.  He’s decided to kill the checks by linking them to the fraud that’s in Trump’s head

 

[Neonmoon 38127]

Mitch McConnell makes me ashamed to be an American. 

[Js1 85110]

54 minutes ago, Js1 said:

We all know how this plays out

Senate GOP leadership plays games, amends the House legislation to include the Section 230 and election fraud poison pills, Democrats refuse to vote for it, it fails, no one gets any money and somehow becomes Pelosi and Schumer's fault.   McConnell escapes without blame - ah well, nevertheless. 

 

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

Mitch is gonna fuck around and find out.  He’s decided to kill the checks by linking them to the fraud that’s in Trump’s head

 

No wai

[atomheartbevo 89449]

Republicans had the votes to pass it

 

[UpperWestside 6136]

1 minute ago, Neonmoon said:

Mitch McConnell makes me ashamed to be an American. 

I honestly kind of wonder what McConnell’s childhood was like. We all know about the polio, but he has some lifelong unresolved issues that he has spent his entire adult life taking out on people. There is no way to be this cold as a human being without having suffered some kind of major emotional trauma.
 

It’s pretty sad in a way that someone derives their source of joy from the hurt they cause others. That internalized  anger he has just keeps burning him up and folks who aren’t able to fight back get to be the continual recipient of his ire.

[atomheartbevo 89449]

27 minutes ago, shnsajax said:

$300 billion in additional costs to keep the Senate is totally worth it to Mitch. 

Yep.  That’s the confusing part about him poisoning the vote.  The Georgia Senators make the huge leap to support the additional amount, he decides to fuck them and himself.  

[UpperWestside 6136]

8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Mitch is gonna fuck around and find out.  He’s decided to kill the checks by linking them to the fraud that’s in Trump’s head

 

Everyone has to pay for their transgressions at some point. It would I think be fitting for him to f around and find out what it is like to be the target of anger of millions of Americans that desperately need those checks, but aren’t getting them because of him.

[Neonmoon 38127]

Ireland gives their citizens 300 euros a week and they're country is made up of drunk gypsies. We're the richest country in the world. We just gave billions of dollars of OUR money to other countries but we can't give our own citizens a ONE time check for $2000. The country is a joke. 

 

[Chuckie Finster 22600]

For months: "We cannot pass the House approved bill because it is loaded with items unrelated to COVID relief."

Today: "We will only consider passing this COVID relief bill if it is loaded with items unrelated to COVID relief."

I feel like Jesse Pinkman

Edited December 29, 2020 by Chuckie Finster

[Neonmoon 38127]

I'm listening to these senators talk. Is it against the rules to call out McConnell? 

[MissingInAction 24824]

I dont mind getting an extra 2 k for hookers and blow, but why are employed people getting anything? 

Is it the assumption I'll buy a new couch and not an ounce of cocaine?

[elfenix 34171]

13 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I honestly kind of wonder what McConnell’s childhood was like. We all know about the polio, but he has some lifelong unresolved issues that he has spent his entire adult life taking out on people. There is no way to be this cold as a human being without having suffered some kind of major emotional trauma.
 

It’s pretty sad in a way that someone derives their source of joy from the hurt they cause others. That internalized  anger he has just keeps burning him up and folks who aren’t able to fight back get to be the continual recipient of his ire.

mitch, being a turtle, is 100% reptile brained

[Hugo Stiglitz 23356]

5 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I'm listening to these senators talk. Is it against the rules to call out McConnell? 

“Nevertheless she persisted.”

 

“While Senator Warren was reading the letter from Mrs. King, Presiding Senate Chair Steve Daines of Montana interrupted her, reminding her of Senate Rule XIX,^[3] which prohibits ascribing "to another senator or to other senators any conduct or motive unworthy or unbecoming a senator".^[4][5]

Senator Warren stated that she had said that only former Senator Kennedy had called Senator Sessions a disgrace, and she asked whether reading King's letter, which had been admitted into the Senate Record in 1986, was a violation of Senate Rules. Senator Daines again quoted Rule XIX. Senator Warren asked to continue reading Mrs. King's letter, and Senator Daines allowed her to do so.

While Senator Warren continued reading the letter, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky interrupted, saying, "The senator has impugned the motives and conduct of our colleague from Alabama, as warned by the chair." Senator McConnell objected to a line from Ms. King's letter, "Mr. Sessions has used the awesome power of his office to chill the free exercise of the vote by black citizens",^[7] which Senator Warren had quoted prior to the warning.^[6]

Senator Warren said she was "surprised that the words of Coretta Scott King are not suitable for debate in the United States Senate" and requested to continue. Senator Daines asked whether there was objection. Senator McConnell objected, and Senator Daines called for a vote, saying, "The senator will take her seat", preventing Senator Warren from continuing.^[5] The Senate voted to sustain McConnell's objection along party lines, 49–43, silencing Warren for the duration of the Sessions confirmation hearings.”

[Js1 85110]

Yeah unfortunately you can’t go call McConnell a fucking cocksucker. 

Jones could bc he’s on his way out, but he might need confirmation in a month 

[Biff Tannen 45497]

22 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

Everyone has to pay for their transgressions at some point. It would I think be fitting for him to f around and find out what it is like to be the target of anger of millions of Americans that desperately need those checks, but aren’t getting them because of him.

Problem is that Americans by and large have goldfish brain and/or Fox News brain.  Most people will either forget this happened or blame it on Dems.

[burntorangebongos 10681]

Looks like he is going for B and banking that people are too ignorant about Senate rules to understand that the dems have to vote against it due to 230 and voter fraud bullshit.  

Surely, they thought of this maneuver by Mitch and have an answer? They know what he is. Come on Schumer and dems.

[BradInATX 9208]

1 minute ago, burntorangebongos said:

Looks like he is going for B and banking that people are too ignorant about Senate rules to understand that the dems have to vote against it due to 230 and voter fraud bullshit.  

Surely, they thought of this maneuver by Mitch and have an answer? They know what he is. Come on Schumer and dems.

 

They should have been messaging the whole thing ahead of the inevitable and obvious (the B scenario above). Everyone knew that's what was coming. Several of us on this thread called it. 

They should have been out there laying groundwork that any changes to the clean bill were attempts by the GOP to sabotage the whole thing, so that when McConnell inevitably did it, it boxed him into a corner. 

Imagine if they had held back 1% of the money they spent on commercials for the Biden campaign that did absolutely nothing except saturate every commercial break and had been running commercials for the past week warning people of the incoming McConnell sabotage of their $2k checks?

"The house is going to put a clean $2000 bill in front of Mitch McConnell. He and the GOP can sign it right away and get money to you and your family. Or they can play political games and tie it to poison pills such as restricting the 1st amendment online and trying to overturn the election. Let's hope for your family's sake they don't do that. Pass the clean bill, Mitch". Or something more clever that some marketing firm comes up with.

 

[mchookem 16222]

democrats are so easily kicked around, it's fucking infuriating

[Pasken 1309]

I can't think of anything more likely to shut their precious Parler down than repealing 230. I'm guessing the legislation would keep protections but not allow Facebook or twitter to tag posts as being bullshit which is exactly what they got yelled at for not doing after the 2016 election. 

[Foosters 17734]

what exactly is in the 'voter fraud' portion of the bill?

[BradInATX 9208]

democrats are so easily kicked around, it's fucking infuriating

And they act shocked when they repeatedly get whipped at the messaging game in modern, technology driven America.

"I just don't understand why the Republicans keep beating us at the marketing game", laments 125 year old Nancy Pelosi as she dictates an email to her aide who types it up and sends it to the DNC via Pelosi's AOL dialup.

[burntorangebongos 10681]

I dont think Schumer is the right guy to lead the senate. We need a devious asshole to fuck Mitch in the face like a Rick Wilson or Steve Schmidt type. Maybe Klobachar? 

[Dr. Teeth 5832]

Rs didn’t have the votes. The two GA Senators don’t want it to come to a vote. They just needed to come out for it before Mitch did this. Very similar to Collins coming out against ACB after they had Murkowski agree to her. 
 

Hawley doesn’t want it. He can just now run on it in 2024. 
 

Yes, the Rs know what the fuck they are doing. They are really good at being evil. 

[Js1 85110]

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

what exactly is in the 'voter fraud' portion of the bill?

Like the actual fraud, nothing.  Whatever you want it to be. 

Donald Trump has not gotten it through his head that the U.S. Congress cannot legislate elections.  

[BradInATX 9208]

I dont think Schumer is the right guy to lead the senate. We need a devious asshole to fuck Mitch in the face like a Rick Wilson or Steve Schmidt type. Maybe Klobachar? 

Not sure about the Senate but Ted Lieu and AOC are consistently the best and most effective brand builders and GOP foils in the party. They haven't put Lieu in the spotlight and they actively thwart and shun AOC.