EPL 2020-21

[406W30th 1111]

On 11/23/2020 at 10:44 AM, shadow_operative said:

it's funny how fans of other clubs are making a much bigger deal out of Arsenal's struggles than we are. i don't know what you all expected, but i've known that this shit is not going to get turned around overnight for some time now. as has been discussed in this thread, Arsenal went from a midfield of Santi, Rosicky, Wilshere, Arteta, Ozil, and Oxlade-Chamberlain, to losing all of those guys and failing to replace them. we're never going to have any sustained success in attack as long as that's the case.

lmao Özil is literally still on the books and Wilshere could be had for peanuts. And take it from a Liverpool fan, selling Ox for £35M or whatever was maybe the best business Arsenal has done in the last decade.

As for opposing fans making fun of Arsenal's woes, it's probably in reaction to the pundits and Arsenal fans who proclaimed Arteta the second coming after a few decent results post-COVID break. The attack has been utterly abysmal:

     

 

 

[MoJames 8240]

On a completely unrelated note, Chelsea legend Giroud did this yesterday.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

He sent the keeper into the Shadow Realm

[midtown 3339]

Any of you get a PL pie?   The head of our local chapter got one.

[ztejas 43006]

With the Pool tie - tomorrow's fixture between Chelsea and Tottenham will be for top of the table. A Tottenham win or tie and they will remain at the top of the standings - a Chelsea win and they will jump above Pool and Tottenham. 

 

So... kind of a big game.

Edited November 28, 2020 by ztejas
Unless Leicester wins by 6 or 7 goals on Monday

[Firemans4Horn 17675]

I hope my dream of Burnley getting relegated becomes reality this season

[yoladu 4061]

1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:

I hope my dream of Burnley getting relegated becomes reality this season

why is that your dream?

[Longhornfan1024 1707]

This is an incredibly exciting nil nil draw.

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[Firemans4Horn 17675]

50 minutes ago, yoladu said:

why is that your dream?

shit fans

shit football

shit club

[ztejas 43006]

Maybe a silly question - I've never bet on soccer before. My book has Chelsea listed at -0.5 for odds of +105. They also have the Chelsea money-line at +110.

Aren't these the same thing? Why would the odds be different? You can't win by less than a goal - so if Chelsea covers 0.5 they are guaranteed to hit the moneyline. Why would you not take the ML +110?

[Hagbard Celine 10611]

motherhumping edinson fucking cavani

unreal

[InkaUtexas 25201]

Hate ManU but what a goal by Cavani. 

[Buzzrock 14792]

Cmon nil nil draw!

[Hagbard Celine 10611]

superhype fixtures like this often fail to deliver, but sometimes nil-nil can be just as compelling as 2-2.

wow - 2018 spurs win @ bridge only 1 in the last 30 years

[ztejas 43006]

17 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

superhype fixtures like this often fail to deliver, but sometimes nil-nil can be just as compelling as 2-2.

It's been quality football so far. 

I wouldn't exactly prefer a 0-0 draw - but for the layman at home it has been an entertaining start. 

[Captain Ron 12758]

This. We just entered 38’ and it’s been a really good 0-0 game. 

[Hagbard Celine 10611]

pulisic on

[kingkoopa6 8283]

CP got a beard beard. Lol. Grown ass man now 

[HornOnTheBayou 8865]

nevermind

Edited November 29, 2020 by HornOnTheBayou

[ztejas 43006]

1 minute ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

If you bet them at -.5, you lose the bet if the game ends in a tie. If you bet the ML, you push the bet if the game ends in a tie.

That doesn't make sense. Look at the odds for each. 

 

[HornOnTheBayou 8865]

Just now, ztejas said:

That doesn't make sense. Look at the odds for each. 

 

Yep, that's why I edited it to "nevermind". Are you sure you looked at the odds correctly? Usually a ML bet (if there is not a tie option) means a push for you if the game ends in a tie.

[ztejas 43006]

 

2 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Yep, that's why I edited it to "nevermind". Are you sure you looked at the odds correctly? Usually a ML bet (if there is not a tie option) means a push for you if the game ends in a tie.

Yep. Could be an immaterial book error. 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2020 by ztejas

[Hagbard Celine 10611]

welp, back to the therman deathwatch

[Captain Ron 12758]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Cmon nil nil draw!

Another week at the top of the standings. I'll take it.

1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

superhype fixtures like this often fail to deliver, but sometimes nil-nil can be just as compelling as 2-2.

wow - 2018 spurs win @ bridge only 1 in the last 30 years

I would note - this was only good football to neutrals that know the game. To those that don't follow it - this was kind of hard to watch.

 

[Buzzrock 14792]

Boring boring Chelsea / Spurs. But I’m psychic so yay?

[ztejas 43006]

Winners: Liverpool

[Captain Ron 12758]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Winners: Liverpool

Not from here:

[ztejas 43006]

3 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Not from here:

If you don't think Pool was cheering for a draw you're insane. Puts less points on the table. Leaves the door open and buys them time.

[Captain Ron 12758]

I think it's a little early to look to help from 0-0 draws in games that don't include you.  

Sure, this helps them a little. But given the amount of soccer left this season, IMHO this is really just a blip in terms of help for them.

[shadow_operative 15931]

really scary collision just now in Arsenal vs Wolves. the Wolves player hasn't moved at all, he appears to have been unconscious for a while now.

[Buzzrock 14792]

KTFO

[shadow_operative 15931]

David Luiz appeared to be unconscious for a bit as well, and he needs to be subbed off. I hope we do the right thing and make the change. 

[shadow_operative 15931]

David Luiz has stars in his eyes. surely he's coming off. 

[Buzzrock 14792]

He looks like an extra in a war film 

[ztejas 43006]

44 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

I think it's a little early to look to help from 0-0 draws in games that don't include you.  

Sure, this helps them a little. But given the amount of soccer left this season, IMHO this is really just a blip in terms of help for them.

 

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Well, the Chelsea/Spurs game worked out quite nicely for us. 

 

[shadow_operative 15931]

Luiz is actively bleeding through that giant bandage on his head. This isn't cool. 

[Buzzrock 14792]

Also not cool: our defense 

[mdmost 42615]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

 

 

I also said you had a tiny penis but you didn't include that in your quote. 

Quit worrying about what the Liverpool thread thinks. 

Edited November 29, 2020 by mdmost

[ztejas 43006]

28 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I also said you had a tiny penis but you didn't include that in your quote. 

Quit worrying about what the Liverpool thread thinks. 

You conveniently supported the point I was making. Don't read too far into it.

[texanbychoice 354]

it's funny how fans of other clubs are making a much bigger deal out of Arsenal's struggles than we are. i don't know what you all expected, but i've known that this shit is not going to get turned around overnight for some time now. as has been discussed in this thread, Arsenal went from a midfield of Santi, Rosicky, Wilshere, Arteta, Ozil, and Oxlade-Chamberlain, to losing all of those guys and failing to replace them. we're never going to have any sustained success in attack as long as that's the case. i saw a mind blowing stat from before the Villa match two weeks ago- Auba's XG on the year is 3; not 30; 3. that's how pathetic our midfield has been/will continue to be until we get some actual players in. 
so while you guys are over here acting like Arsenal fans should be freaking out and worrying about relegation, i'm over here going, "damn, we've played away matches against Man U, Man City, Liverpool, and Leeds, and yet we still have the best defensive record in the EPL. We have one of the best keepers in the EPL; we have Auba signed to a long term deal; we've brought in the likes of Tierney, Saka, Partey, and Gabriel to help defensively, and they've been great. we're building a winning team piece by piece."
yeah, the rebuild still has a long way to go, but anyone with an objective look at our roster makeup can see that Arteta is actually doing some pretty fine work considering what he's got to work with in midfield. if we still look like this a year from now, then i'll be worried. until then, it's gonna be a whole lot of 1-0 and 0-0 games for Arsenal. it is what it is.

You don’t have the best defense in the EPL.

[WBT 20340]

Fulham beats Leceister.  Seems like they should have taken a shot at the empty net at the end but they still hung on.

[Captain Ron 12758]

On 11/28/2020 at 11:05 AM, ztejas said:

Unless Leicester wins by 6 or 7 goals on Monday

Well a funny thing happened in Leicester.

[Firemans4Horn 17675]

This year’s FA Cup is going to be a dumpster fire. Can’t imagine EPL teams use starters until the quarterfinals. 

[ztejas 43006]

10 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Well a funny thing happened in Leicester.

Yep. ManU and Everton cleaning the table up a little bit. Looking like there's going to be some craziness for the top 4 this season - and even the Europa bid.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Fuck VAR. they have ruined this game. 

[Firemans4Horn 17675]

And that concludes another exciting week of English Premier League ruined by VAR. 

[midtown 3339]

And we have our first covid related match postponement. Maybe stop the internationals.

[mdmost 42615]

Probably need to stop UEFA and Europa too then. 

Edited December 1, 2020 by mdmost

[Captain Ron 12758]

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Probably need to stop UEFA and Europa too then. 

But all that money ... so nah.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

20 hours ago, midtown said:

Maybe stop the internationals.

But how will the English National Team injure our roster?