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Yeah but fuck City

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We've done reaaaaaaaly well with teams outside of the top 8, right?

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26 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Now compare that foul to the one that got DL a red. No consistency.

Totally different calls.

FIrst off, I agree that DLs red was BS, non-intentional foul, so let’s not debate that.

But in that case he was the last man. There was no defender after him. If deemed intentional it has to be a red  

This penalty had another defender there taking the last man call away. 

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6 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That last one... you gotta save that. City not leaving any doubts about who's winning the title this season. Really impressive turnaround for them.

Yeah. Some of the soccer heads have been talking about how Pep tightened up the D and they are a completely different team now can start of the season. This title race is over. 

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14 hours ago, sidis said:

Man, when Liverpool’s GK’s melt down, they fucking being with the most epic possible meltdowns. Jesus Christ.

I see Klopp went off on another reporter yesterday.  Never thought he'd turn into such a giant bitch when he's not winning.

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1 hour ago, midtown said:

I see Klopp went off on another reporter yesterday.  Never thought he'd turn into such a giant bitch when he's not winning.

Like clockwork...every single time.  Certainly respect him and envy the success they have had under him, but they are so fucking insufferable when they lose.  i love how he acts like everyone's not playing the same crazy ass schedule as liverpool.

 

1 hour ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Make It Rain Money GIF

according to uefa, city's total wage bill for 2018 was £267 million and liverpool's was £255.  not exactly the yankees and pirates there.  in 2021, active player payroll is £136 for city and £118 for liverpool.  city paid £149 in transfer fees and pool paid £96.

chelsea paid £250 in transfer fees.  good call. 

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8 minutes ago, sidis said:

according to uefa, city's total wage bill for 2018 was £267 million and liverpool's was £255.  not exactly the yankees and pirates there.  in 2021, active player payroll is £136 for city and £118 for liverpool.  city paid £149 in transfer fees and pool paid £96.

chelsea paid £250 in transfer fees.  good call. 

Nice cherry picking. 

The 20 Premier League clubs ranked by net spend over last five years

1. Man City – £601.98m
2. Man Utd – £484.88m
3. Arsenal – £267.88m
4. Everton – £225.42m
5. Brighton – £214.86m
6. Wolves – £205.22m
7. West Ham – £187.49m
8. Bournemouth – £176.95m
9. Aston Villa – £166.65m
10. Watford – £125.69m
11. Leicester City – £124.83m
12. Newcastle – £122.91m
13. Chelsea – £115.57m
14. Liverpool – £107.58m
15. Tottenham – £106.62m
16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m
17. Burnley – £59.4m
18. Sheffield United – £56.71m
19. Southampton – £22.32m
20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit

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2 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Nice cherry picking. 

The 20 Premier League clubs ranked by net spend over last five years

1. Man City – £601.98m
2. Man Utd – £484.88m
3. Arsenal – £267.88m
4. Everton – £225.42m
5. Brighton – £214.86m
6. Wolves – £205.22m
7. West Ham – £187.49m
8. Bournemouth – £176.95m
9. Aston Villa – £166.65m
10. Watford – £125.69m
11. Leicester City – £124.83m
12. Newcastle – £122.91m
13. Chelsea – £115.57m
14. Liverpool – £107.58m
15. Tottenham – £106.62m
16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m
17. Burnley – £59.4m
18. Sheffield United – £56.71m
19. Southampton – £22.32m
20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit

talk about cherry picking...that's just transfer spending.  that is not the same as what the actual wage bill is.  there is a relatively small difference between what liverpool and city pay their players that play on the field.  i am all for you being a bitch about city spending a lot of blood and oil money but don't act like lowly liverpool who went out and just took thiago and jota this summer are competitively disadvantaged.  

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12 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Nice cherry picking. 

The 20 Premier League clubs ranked by net spend over last five years

1. Man City – £601.98m
2. Man Utd – £484.88m
3. Arsenal – £267.88m
4. Everton – £225.42m
5. Brighton – £214.86m
6. Wolves – £205.22m
7. West Ham – £187.49m
8. Bournemouth – £176.95m
9. Aston Villa – £166.65m
10. Watford – £125.69m
11. Leicester City – £124.83m
12. Newcastle – £122.91m
13. Chelsea – £115.57m
14. Liverpool – £107.58m
15. Tottenham – £106.62m
16. Crystal Palace – £75.69m
17. Burnley – £59.4m
18. Sheffield United – £56.71m
19. Southampton – £22.32m
20. Norwich City – £25.42m profit

This is worse cherry picking. Looks like that article was written last year. Over the past 3 years including this year Pool's net spending is over $160 million/~120 million GBP, while City is at $240 million/~180 million GBP. So sure they are spending more but it's close. 

And I'm not siding either way - just adding context. Every big club spends crazy money. 

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15 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Fair.

But City did come into the season with issues. Their defense sucked early on and they have fixed things on the fly. I get they spent the money, but Pep did have to do SOMETHING.

 

Pep is the difference. You can spend all the money in the world in the PL but that doesn't guarantee anything. Spending that money correctly is a big deal and they have done that for the most part. They are about to win their 3rd title in 4 years with Pep - and one of those was in a year where they had to be virtually perfect across all 38. It's not like ManU or Pool or Chelsea are outclassed on paper when they play City - they have simply gotten less out of their talent the past few years than City has. 

Now, if they sign Messi they can fuck off and at that point I will certainly take any trophies they win with a bigger grain of salt.

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Good to see that Cheeseweasel cries all over multiple boards.

How dare another team show up and break into our big spenders club and win a lot. It's just shameful.

Gee, look at that. Liverpool spends basically the entire 20 year period as one of the top 10 spending clubs in all of Europe. Poor little Liverpool.

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That last one... you gotta save that. City not leaving any doubts about who's winning the title this season. Really impressive turnaround for them.

 

Not sure how big a turn around it is really. City is on pace to get 86 points; they had 81 points last year. So a +5 point improvement.

It's probably more just how much worse Liverpool is doing this year..

99 points last year, on pace for 66 points this year.. -33 point drop off.

 

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https://www.espn.com/soccer/english-premier-league/story/4310823/premier-league-ref-mike-dean-receives-death-threatsasks-not-to-be-involved-in-games

Premier League ref Mike Dean receives death threats, asks not to be involved in games

 

Mike Dean is a terrible referee, but he doesn't deserve this.

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The Times is reporting that the PGMOL are considering separating the two referees [Mike Dean & Lee Mason] for a short spell.

 

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16 minutes ago, yoladu said:

 

Not sure how big a turn around it is really. City is on pace to get 86 points; they had 81 points last year. So a +5 point improvement.

It's probably more just how much worse Liverpool is doing this year..

99 points last year, on pace for 66 points this year.. -33 point drop off.

 

Turnaround from the beginning of the season. Not from last year...

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1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Turnaround from the beginning of the season. Not from last year...

 

Agreed. That table in the tweet I pointed out was through matchweek 9 of the EPL. They only played 8 games at that point, but they were in 13th place with 12 points (3-3-2 W-D-L). They were floundering, on pace for 57 points. Pep did something right.

To be fair, Cheese is right about something. When you spend the money and you spend it right - you can win titles (see VVD).

But it takes a special coach to coach around big losses or even dips in play. Pep is doing something we all wish our teams were doing.

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