Ewers or Bust- Lord have mercy I’m bout to bust

[alphahorn 1637]

17 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Pffft.   Frankly, I’m surprised at this take.

obviously he will be move to TE and go on to a 14yr career with 5 Pro Bowl Appearances  

Nah, we need to go old school Bill Bradley and move him to safety, then he can have a long all pro NFL career

[UTEE97 3429]

2 minutes ago, alphahorn said:

Nah, we need to go old school Bill Bradley and move him to safety, then he can have a long all pro NFL career

Since we have a pretty good track record of converting offensive skill players to safety, I see this as a viable option. 

[C-Man 27052]

On 11/7/2021 at 10:07 AM, Atticus said:

He left because he didn't believe Yurcich was gonna be around to coach him and the team was falling apart. Sam possibly even told him to steer clear.

And he allegedly hated Tom Herman.

[alphahorn 1637]

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And he allegedly hated Tom Herman.

The rest of the world could have told him to hold their beer

[someguy 1476]

8 hours ago, Blackcat00 said:

Alex Loeb stated he could barely move it just last week. Its an obvious issue and has been.  

A healthy Thompson had this offense rolling until the the injury against OU.  

What doesn't make sense is the complete shitshow of Card. The missed TD to Worthy shouldn't happen. 

Alex Loeb is wrong.  

Thompson's thumb is a non-issue, and chatter about it is misdirection.

[someguy 1476]

double post

Edited November 9, 2021 by someguy

[RGBIII 22798]

11 minutes ago, C-Man said:

And he allegedly hated Tom Herman.

He also found out Tom Herman was talking shit about his game

[The Dog 43803]

He also found out Tom Herman was talking shit about his game

WTF

[dcar00 14035]

1 hour ago, RGBIII said:

He also found out Tom Herman was talking shit about his game

why the fuck would Herman do that?

[RGBIII 22798]

45 minutes ago, The Dog said:

WTF

 

12 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

why the fuck would Herman do that?

I don’t believe it personally but I have heard it, supposedly it was something spun the wrong way but it got back to Quinn

[dcar00 14035]

Just now, RGBIII said:

 

I don’t believe it personally but I have heard it, supposedly it was something spun the wrong way but it got back to Quinn

I mean Herman is a douche but I can't believe he would do that and if Quinn didn't accept an explanation from Tom then not sure what to say.  Maybe Quinn was just looking for an out.

[UDontKnow 10439]

3 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

 

I don’t believe it personally but I have heard it, supposedly it was something spun the wrong way but it got back to Quinn

It probably had to do with his mullet. It's pretty obvious.

[Michael Knight 12896]

Imagine if we still had Jalen Milroe

[Beau Vine 54000]

4 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Imagine if we still had Jalen Milroe

I was all on the Milroe train until I saw him withering like a little pussy against North Shore in the playoffs last season.

[Treefidy 1463]

14 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I mean Herman is a douche but I can't believe he would do that and if Quinn didn't accept an explanation from Tom then not sure what to say.  Maybe Quinn was just looking for an out.

Herman is very immature and showed it repeatedly on and off the field.   Grills, bats, sledgehammer, fighting radio people, fake trying to fight other coaches, mocking opposing player, double birds…..  the guy was an embarrassment of his own making that we endured for 4 too many years.  And that’s just the public stuff.  

[mwaadeeb 1152]

10 hours ago, Blackcat00 said:

 I really believe Texas has one loss if not for him playing hurt and struggling. 

You mean those games where his thumb was okay in the first half but not the second?

Edited November 9, 2021 by mwaadeeb

[HtownHorn 14486]

28 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

Imagine if we still had Jalen Milroe

He'd likely be starting against KU.

[bad_teammate 13132]

24 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I was all on the Milroe train until I saw him withering like a little pussy against North Shore in the playoffs last season.

I mean... it's North Shore.

[RGBIII 22798]

39 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I mean Herman is a douche but I can't believe he would do that and if Quinn didn't accept an explanation from Tom then not sure what to say.  Maybe Quinn was just looking for an out.

I think the last sentence is the most likely reason

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

21 minutes ago, mwaadeeb said:

You mean those games where his thumb was okay in the first half but not the second?

To be fair, when the team mimics the coaching staff by sitting on their thumbs during halftime, it probably does have a negative impact on throwing ability.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11923]

On 11/5/2021 at 2:19 PM, Bigbend1812 said:

PC load letter.

 

[Js1 85109]

18 hours ago, Treefidy said:

Herman is very immature and showed it repeatedly on and off the field.   Grills, bats, sledgehammer, fighting radio people, fake trying to fight other coaches, mocking opposing player, double birds…..  the guy was an embarrassment of his own making that we endured for 4 too many years.  And that’s just the public stuff.  

How do you mention all that and not the kissing players part?

God damn, he was an embarrassment. 

[RollLeft 5040]

19 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

Imagine if we still had Jalen Milroe  Ewers.

Let's get this back on track.  So remind me of the NLI rules of non university people, donors, contacting players from other programs with offers from ours. @immamac 

[Hornlover 8824]

3 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

Let's get this back on track.  So remind me of the NLI rules of non university people, donors, contacting players from other programs with offers from ours. @immamac 

*NIL  - Name Image Likeness. "NLI" stands for National Letter of Intent. 

The offers aren't from "our program" . Offers are from businesses. So if you have a business and want to ask Ewers to represent you, go ahead and contact him.

It's possible you might want to mention, when you contact him or his agent, that your business is mainly focused in Austin, TX and that it would be mutually beneficial to both of you if he were geographically closer.

[TwiceHorn 31272]

23 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

*NIL  - Name Image Likeness. "NLI" stands for National Letter of Intent. 

The offers aren't from "our program" . Offers are from businesses. So if you have a business and want to ask Ewers to represent you, go ahead and contact him.

It's possible you might want to mention, when you contact him or his agent, that your business is mainly focused in Austin, TX and that it would be mutually beneficial to both of you if he were geographically closer.

And NIL contracts are not to be entered into with players not-yet-on-campus.  But like all of this, who's going to do anything about it?

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And NIL contracts are not to be entered into with players not-yet-on-campus.  But like all of this, who's going to do anything about it?

 

At least pertaining to our players.

[IDIOTsavant 8445]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

At least pertaining to our players.

When the fuck is someone going to open the Mexican food equivalent to Hooters (quite obviously Tacos) to distract her already?

[Hornlover 8824]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

And NIL contracts are not to be entered into with players not-yet-on-campus.  But like all of this, who's going to do anything about it?

Ewers is on campus. He might not be invited to the away games and it's possible he doesn't play school, but he's certainly on campus.

[immamac 42518]

I can pay any fucking player I want. I just can’t tell them it’s dependent on their transfer or insinuate that it requires them to be on the university of Texas teams. I could pay anyone though, for any damn reason outside of performance and inducement. 

[RollLeft 5040]

5 hours ago, Hornlover said:

*NIL  - Name Image Likeness. "NLI" stands for National Letter of Intent. 

The offers aren't from "our program" . Offers are from businesses. So if you have a business and want to ask Ewers to represent you, go ahead and contact him.

It's possible you might want to mention, when you contact him or his agent, that your business is mainly focused in Austin, TX and that it would be mutually beneficial to both of you if he were geographically closer.

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[Hornlover 8824]

16 minutes ago, RollLeft said:

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I honestly have no idea what the confusion is.

There's nothing preventing a Longhorn fan from creating an NIL deal with any college athlete at any school. Dr Pepper isn't worried that Fansville State is going to lose bowl eligibility if they pay DJ Ugaeileileileilei.

The real question is, how can you make it clear to Ewers that you only wish to make him a deal if he plays for Texas, without saying that or making it an explicit part of any offer?

 

[dcar00 14035]

5 hours ago, IDIOTsavant said:

When the fuck is someone going to open the Mexican food equivalent to Hooters (quite obviously Tacos) to distract her already?

that bitch needs to go a fucking sap. I'm sure she's just pissed that NIL can't be controlled by Title IX so she'll make our university pay as a matter of some bullshit principle.

[dcar00 14035]

2 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I honestly have no idea what the confusion is.

There's nothing preventing a Longhorn fan from creating an NIL deal with any college athlete at any school. Dr Pepper isn't worried that Fansville State is going to lose bowl eligibility if they pay DJ Ugaeileileileilei.

The real question is, how can you make it clear to Ewers that you only wish to make him a deal if he plays for Texas, without saying that or making it an explicit part of any offer?

 

maybe we could tell him the money can only be picked up in Austin in a certain location 

 

[UDontKnow 10439]

3 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I honestly have no idea what the confusion is.

There's nothing preventing a Longhorn fan from creating an NIL deal with any college athlete at any school. Dr Pepper isn't worried that Fansville State is going to lose bowl eligibility if they pay DJ Ugaeileileileilei.

The real question is, how can you make it clear to Ewers that you only wish to make him a deal if he plays for Texas, without saying that or making it an explicit part of any offer?

 

My name is Hornlover and I am interested in offering you a NIL deal.

It gets the point across and doesn't sound all that difficult.

[Michael Knight 12896]

26 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I honestly have no idea what the confusion is.

There's nothing preventing a Longhorn fan from creating an NIL deal with any college athlete at any school. Dr Pepper isn't worried that Fansville State is going to lose bowl eligibility if they pay DJ Ugaeileileileilei.

The real question is, how can you make it clear to Ewers that you only wish to make him a deal if he plays for Texas, without saying that or making it an explicit part of any offer?

 

By fucking saying explicitly that, its not complicated. You think bagmen dance around the whole heres some money to visit this school here's more money to commit? You think anyone is actually enforcing these so called rules?

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

7 hours ago, Hornlover said:

I honestly have no idea what the confusion is.

There's nothing preventing a Longhorn fan from creating an NIL deal with any college athlete at any school. Dr Pepper isn't worried that Fansville State is going to lose bowl eligibility if they pay DJ Ugaeileileileilei.

The real question is, how can you make it clear to Ewers that you only wish to make him a deal if he plays for Texas, without saying that or making it an explicit part of any offer?

 

The same way the drug dealer behind wallgreens makes it clear he has drugs for you to purchase without saying he has drugs for you to purchase.

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

7 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

By fucking saying explicitly that, its not complicated. You think bagmen dance around the whole heres some money to visit this school here's more money to commit? You think anyone is actually enforcing these so called rules?

[immamac 42518]

7 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

By fucking saying explicitly that, its not complicated. You think bagmen dance around the whole heres some money to visit this school here's more money to commit? You think anyone is actually enforcing these so called rules?

I mean it's not bagmen, this is all above board and legitimate or compliance won't approve it. 

If Surly Horns offered Quinn Ewers an NIL deal while he wasn't at the University, they would require him to submit all of his current deals to the university for review and they would all have to pass muster or Quinn couldn't play or the deal would need to be terminated. 

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

25 minutes ago, immamac said:

they would require him to submit all of his current deals to the university for review and they would all have to pass muster or Quinn couldn't play or the deal would need to be terminated. 

I could see this being a huge issue. Why is a deal at say Ohio State okay but a no go at Texas? If it’s good enough deal to pass at a school like that why can’t it be the. Same here? Obviously the state laws matter, some but a gray area is there.  Hypothetically, of course. 
 

 

Everything seems to be so black and white with our university and we don’t ever go into the gray area. We generally treat it as bad and a no go. 

Edited November 10, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[immamac 42518]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I could see this being a huge issue. Why is a deal at say Ohio State okay but a no go at Texas? If it’s good enough deal to pass at a school like that why can’t it be the. Same here? Obviously the state laws matter, some but a gray area is there.  Hypothetically, of course. 
 

 

Everything seems to be so black and white with our university and we don’t ever go into the gray area. We generally treat it as bad and a no go. 

Texas does not want any sanctions, blemishes, vacated wins/seasons, etc. They want to run a clean program, but are fine being as close to the edge as possible. A lot of people think that it's black and white, but the "gray area" is just much smaller. 

The University also spends quite a bit of time and effort protecting it's intellectual property (remember shaggyBEVO) - They are pretty much required to do this because not doing it will make their intellectual property effectively useless. We got a "talking to" for taking pics in the hall of champions, but they let it go. Other schools are fine with the NCAAs lack of enforcement, Texas is not, because even though it's extremely unlikely the brand will take a substantial hit if there ever is something that happens.

Now, is there an entire underbelly of stuff that could be happening without the university having to even know or be a part of it? Absolutely - and we should be organizing stuff like that all the time now. It's now okay to fly a player to his favorite teams game on a Sunday as long as while he is there he meets with some fans that want to get his autograph and whatnot. It's an appearance fee because of their name image and likeness. 

There is a lot in the "impermissable benefits" part of the world that really needs to start being a thing again. A lot of those are permissible now as long as there is a contract and you leave the university out of it. 

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

4 minutes ago, immamac said:

Texas does not want any sanctions, blemishes, vacated wins/seasons, etc. They want to run a clean program, but are fine being as close to the edge as possible. A lot of people think that it's black and white, but the "gray area" is just much smaller. 

The University also spends quite a bit of time and effort protecting it's intellectual property (remember shaggyBEVO) - They are pretty much required to do this because not doing it will make their intellectual property effectively useless. We got a "talking to" for taking pics in the hall of champions, but they let it go. Other schools are fine with the NCAAs lack of enforcement, Texas is not, because even though it's extremely unlikely the brand will take a substantial hit if there ever is something that happens.

Now, is there an entire underbelly of stuff that could be happening without the university having to even know or be a part of it? Absolutely - and we should be organizing stuff like that all the time now. It's now okay to fly a player to his favorite teams game on a Sunday as long as while he is there he meets with some fans that want to get his autograph and whatnot. It's an appearance fee because of their name image and likeness. 

There is a lot in the "impermissable benefits" part of the world that really needs to start being a thing again. A lot of those are permissible now as long as there is a contract and you leave the university out of it. 

Gotcha, I suppose it makes sense but seems to put us at a disadvantage in that area. I'd wager this may go by the wayside once we change conferences and the eyes are opened to the new way of doing things? Hopefully led by Hartzell and Eltiffe.

Edited November 10, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[immamac 42518]

Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

Gotcha, I suppose it makes sense but seems to put us at a disadvantage in that area. I'd wager this may go by the wayside once we change conferences and the eyes are opened to the new way of doing things? Hopefully led by Hartzell and Eltiffe.

Doubtful. It has more to do with the shame than the actual punishment. Texas doesn't want the shame of "cheating", I don't think they are concerned as much with lost scholarships and all that stuff. There will never be a "lack of institutional control" at Texas.

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

Doubtful. It has more to do with the shame than the actual punishment. Texas doesn't want the shame of "cheating", I don't think they are concerned as much with lost scholarships and all that stuff. There will never be a "lack of institutional control" at Texas.

I'd argue there is too much institutional control at Texas, haha. If we don't change I think we're in for a bad time in the SEC. I know i've been hyperbolic about becoming Vandy of the West, I don't seriously think it will be that bad but I do feel like we could head for an Miss St, Kentucky, South Carolina area of relegation. 

Edited November 10, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[Schulz2.0 28768]

36 minutes ago, immamac said:

Doubtful. It has more to do with the shame than the actual punishment. Texas doesn't want the shame of "cheating", I don't think they are concerned as much with lost scholarships and all that stuff. There will never be a "lack of institutional control" at Texas.

[Gut Wagon 8052]

This mess puts some of us fans in a tough spot. I'd much rather see the "bad" programs made to elevate their ethics (or at least, their actions) than to see a perennial competitive disadvantage for those who don't. So I applaud the concept behind our institutional approach even though it appears to be pushing us farther behind the curve on the playing field. Again, it's a tough spot to be in as a respected university.

All that said, I naturally want the school to be open to new ideas for how we can compete without going too far. It of course is up to each person's definition of where that "too far" line lies, so I won't pretend I have the answer. I just know some schools seem unconcerned about its very existence, and many of those are about to be on our schedule. 

[Tex-19 2869]

1 minute ago, Gut Wagon said:

This mess puts some of us fans in a tough spot. I'd much rather see the "bad" programs made to elevate their ethics (or at least, their actions) than to see a perennial competitive disadvantage for those who don't. So I applaud the concept behind our institutional approach even though it appears to be pushing us farther behind the curve on the playing field. Again, it's a tough spot to be in as a respected university.

All that said, I naturally want the school to be open to new ideas for how we can compete without going too far. It of course is up to each person's definition of where that "too far" line lies, so I won't pretend I have the answer. I just know some schools seem unconcerned about its very existence, and many of those are about to be on our schedule. 

It'd be nice if the NCAA could somehow actually police this stuff. Slap a salary cap on it like the NFL or something just to make it a fair playing field. Pipedream though. 

College football is honestly in a pretty shitty place right now with the increasing importance of booster payments now that NIL is around combined with the transfer portal. More than ever, it's all about buying players, with no effective rules to govern it. Pretty lame when you think about it.

[BurntOrange&White 39655]

5 minutes ago, Gut Wagon said:

This mess puts some of us fans in a tough spot. I'd much rather see the "bad" programs made to elevate their ethics (or at least, their actions) than to see a perennial competitive disadvantage for those who don't. So I applaud the concept behind our institutional approach even though it appears to be pushing us farther behind the curve on the playing field. Again, it's a tough spot to be in as a respected university.

All that said, I naturally want the school to be open to new ideas for how we can compete without going too far. It of course is up to each person's definition of where that "too far" line lies, so I won't pretend I have the answer. I just know some schools seem unconcerned about its very existence, and many of those are about to be on our schedule. 

Ohio State is a respected university, as much as posters here refuse to admit because their fan base is not respectable. It doesn’t hinder them. 
 

Ohio state is the model we should be following. As far as academic side pairing with the athletic side. 

[Tex-19 2869]

12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Ohio State is a respected university, as much as posters here refuse to admit because their fan base is not respectable. It doesn’t hinder them. 
 

Ohio state is the model we should be following. As far as academic side pairing with the athletic side. 

Yeah we don't need to go full A&M/UGA and throw bags at auctions all over the place. We just need enough to lock down elite guys who really want to come here, but who don't want to take a huge discount to do so. It can be very targeted at a few top guys like Stewart, K Banks, Denver Harris, etc instead of nationwide auctions.

[Laga4 1270]

23 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Yeah we don't need to go full A&M/UGA and throw bags at auctions all over the place. We just need enough to lock down elite guys who really want to come here, but who don't want to take a huge discount to do so. It can be very targeted at a few top guys like Stewart, K Banks, Denver Harris, etc instead of nationwide auctions.

And don’t be late with the offers. 
tOSU offered Ewers in the eighth grade. Not saying start offering eighth graders,  but get the talent identified early and don’t be afraid to offer.

[utexas8 1433]

I had a dream that he is coming to Texas and I asked him how much Texas offered him and he said $1000. Lmao.

I should’ve told him to switch to a TE.

Regardless he was coming so there’s that.