Ted Lasso (Apple+)

[Deej 76219]

Thank Shaggy for him knowing that word. 

 

[Brew 2917]

4 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

this is a fairytale. there are tons of people in here criticizing the show, yet only one of us continually gets singled out and personally attacked. which leaves us with one of two possibilities:

either im going out of my way to upset everybody and blacklab is inexplicably white knighting me and "protecting" me

OR

a bunch of people who already don't like me are going out of their way to freak out and and be combative and insulting every time i say something. 

the fact that several of y'all have already admitted to believing the first option to be true is sincerely alarming. i haven't done or said anything to deserve it provoke your bombastic reactions. when you've got blacklab in a thread defending me, it's time to look in the mirror. again, it wasn't my posts that got deleted because they were personal attacks. that would be several of y'all. realize what's going on already. jesus.

I don’t engage with you anywhere. Go back and read our interaction 5-6 pages ago. It reads just like I pointed out above. I also didn’t personally attack you at all hence the woe is me portion of the back and forth. As far as the others in this thread, most seem to be (somewhat) reasonable posters based on what I see elsewhere on this site. I’m not responding to you again, so you can feel free to just ignore this response and move on.

 

1 hour ago, Beau Vine said:

Ted Lasso has been "woke" (whatever that means) since S1 E1.   What's different this season is that it's like the writers are going down a checklist of issues to work into the show, and basically doing drive-bys with those issues, like Duck mentioned.

Rep to Derka for skillfully using "bombastic."  Good word.

They have to have just about covered all of them at this point. There can’t be too many left that need to be worked in.

Edited May 15, 2023 by Brew

[henrygandorf 28916]

1 hour ago, Brew said:

feel free to just ignore this response and move on.

i think this is a good rule for this post and the 8-10 preceding it.

[BHMCruiser 1806]

On 5/14/2023 at 4:25 AM, shadow_operative said:

lol. i could not care less what the virtue signaling is about, whether it's that "all men are pigs" or that "it's ok to be gay." neither one is relevant to the show, and the gratuitous virtue signaling down this home stretch run of the show has just been weird and out of place. they've doubled the airtime of each episode, but not so that they could wrap up the existing storylines, but to add in brand new characters who come and go with no purpose, and to make room for the aforementioned virtue signaling. such a strange way to wrap up a series.

also good lord you kids remind me of school children with a kid you love to kick on. you guys wake up in the morning waiting to see what i post here so you can circle jerk over it and freak out about it together. your bombastic responses to my posts never cease to make me laugh. you guys live to get riled up over me, and then whine about it afterward. but supposedly it's me who lacks self awareness. again, hilarious. 

I literally do not know a single other poster on this site but I have to say you are remarkably tedious. 

Also, if this whole anti-derka circle jerk is a real thing, how do I get in on it? Asking for a friend...

[utee94 15722]

16 hours ago, Brew said:

, so you can feel free to just ignore this response and move on.

 

14 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i think this is a good rule for this post and the 8-10 preceding it.

And about 97.2% of the posts on the rest of surly as well!

Anyway, we're running out of time to get the Becks/Rebecca/Sassy scissoring scene we've all been patiently awaiting.  They better hop-to.

[Red Five 40455]

I wish I was as passionate about anything as some of y'all are about this silly tv show. 

[Neonmoon 38126]

I though it was a great episode. One of the better ones. The Nate stuff was good, and the Colin storyline this season, while one can be seen as overdone in todays world, or lazy writing, was well done, especially the “not caring” speech. 

Anyone who uses the word “woke” should be put on ignore, on surly, and in life. 

[UT_OB1 2197]

I woke up too early this morning. 

[henrygandorf 28916]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I though it was a great episode. One of the better ones. The Nate stuff was good, and the Colin storyline this season, while one can be seen as overdone in todays world, or lazy writing, was well done, especially the “not caring” speech. 

Anyone who uses the word “woke” should be put on ignore, on surly, and in life. 

i feel like we're 3-5 years max from being able to put people on ignore in real life.  i will wait patiently.

[Nivek 16691]

I think this is the part where some people watch too many Youtube characters like the Critical Drinker and then proceed read too much into everything and bitch about everything they possibly can.   That cracked article that Derka posted above was a great example of that.    That was a very one-sided article written starting from an agenda (drive clicks, smear Ted Lasso/Sudekis) and find evidence for it within the show to drive that narrative even if it is a stretch.

 

[Deej 76219]

Those type of articles prey on the weak of mind.

 

[A-Tex Devil 2419]

7 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

i feel like we're 3-5 years max from being able to put people on ignore in real life.  i will wait patiently.

Black Mirror, baby!!

[Pokoloco 1242]

So, Rebecca will be pregnant with the Amsterdam guy's kid right?  

[YGIFS 19445]

Good article on cracked.com about how Sudeikis took the character from those NBC shorts from a decade ago and made him the more well-rounded, kinder, more inspiring, more flawed Ted we know today.  Check it out today while taking a piss, it's only a 2-minute read but I never knew how the character made the leap from those goofy NBC promos to this expanded universe.

[HamsterHookah 112]

14 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

So, Rebecca will be pregnant with the Amsterdam guy's kid right?  

I, like the show it mercifully seems, had forgotten and abandoned the psychic/Rebecca side plot.

[utxmike05 1825]

Lasso is officially my least favorite character on the show.  Way back his dad jokes and cheesy lines were funny.  Now it's gotten even more cringey, and he goes off on such random tangents when trying to be funny.  

 

Gah damn Rebecca is the only reason I still watch.....that ass.

[Ted Lange 15935]

46 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

I, like the show it mercifully seems, had forgotten and abandoned the psychic/Rebecca side plot.

Green match book has shown up several times, including either the last episode or the one before 

[HamsterHookah 112]

43 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Green match book has shown up several times, including either the last episode or the one before 

I definitely didn't notice it last episode and that would mean if it was in the last episode it wasn't ham-fisted in our faces, which these writers can't refrain from, so I think it must have been 2 or 3 episode back which prompted my commented of hoping they abandoned it mostly.

Edited May 16, 2023 by HamsterHookah

[ChickenSandwich 9769]

1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

Green match book has shown up several times, including either the last episode or the one before 

Ted had it this episode, correct?

[Bama Chick 28595]

Ted pulled a green matchbook out his pocket episode before last.

[Ted Lange 15935]

It was when he was getting change for his son to play pinball at the pub. 

[Hate 20061]

Yep, the Paris episode.

[mdmost 42501]

How am I supposed to remember small details of episodes when I'm being indinduated with hamfisted, woke content?

[Beau Vine 53737]

IIRC, these were the matchbooks that Sam was handing out at his restaurant, so everyone associated with the team has/had one.

[RomaVicta 29590]

3 hours ago, Pokoloco said:

So, Rebecca will be pregnant with the Amsterdam guy's kid right?  

Only if he rufied her. They didn't have sex was Rebecca's recollection.

[shadow_operative 15931]

the rebecca/amsterdam story is so strange given the tone/theme of so many of these recent episodes. in this story arc rebecca:

•is on her phone and somehow unaware that she's in everyone's way on the bike path 

•meets a strange man from a foreign country wh she knows nothing about and joins him in his aquatic mobile home for an evening of drinking and...

•gets so black out drunk that she has no recollection of whether or not she fucked this complete stranger river rat 

and yet we as viewers are supposed to view this as some sort of happy, beautiful love story for rebecca. the writers can't get their story straight. they had an episode where it was of paramount importance that all men respect women and their privacy by deleting photos of former loved ones off of their phones, only to glorify jack, a woman, ogling a famous man's dick from his own leaked photos. similarly we somehow were supposed to celebrate rebecca being a loose, drunken whore behaving dangerously, which really goes against so much of what this show is trying to promote. if you're going to go so hard on the social commentary you probably shouldn't blatantly contradict yourself like that. 

Edited May 16, 2023 by shadow_operative

[HamsterHookah 112]

4 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

the rebecca/amsterdam story is so strange given the tone/theme of so many of these recent episodes. in this story arc rebecca:

•is on her phone and somehow unaware that she's in everyone's way on the bike path 

•meets a strange man from a foreign country wh she knows nothing about and joins him in his aquatic mobile home for an evening of drinking and...

•gets so black out drunk that she has no recollection of whether or not she fucked this complete stranger river rat 

and yet we as viewers are supposed to view this as some sort of happy, beautiful love story for rebecca. the writers can't get their story straight. they had an episode where it was of paramount importance that all men respect women and their privacy by deleting photos of former loved ones off of their phones, only to glorify jack, a woman, ogling a famous man's dick from his own leaked photos. similarly we somehow were supposed to celebrate rebecca being a loose, drunken whore behaving dangerously, which really goes against so much of what this show is trying to promote. if you're going to go so hard on the social commentary you probably shouldn't blatantly contradict yourself like that. 

I've more or less agree with you entirely up to this point, but what are you talking about here in the bold? She didn't have sex with the guy and even if she did, I don't think that constitutes what you are characterizing her as IMO. I mean, I get not liking her character or character arc and plot.

[Pato del Muerto 52117]

The thing about that that was incongruous to me was the idea of Rebecca as the damsel in distress that the male hero has to rescue.  She made decisions that episode that I wouldn’t think Rebecca would make. Sure I’ll come aboard your boat house. Sure I’ll shower in your boat house. Sure I’ll stay for dinner. Sure I’ll get drunk at the home of a stranger while in a foreign country. Magic of Amsterdam I guess. 

[shadow_operative 15931]

 

18 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

I've more or less agree with you entirely up to this point, but what are you talking about here in the bold? She didn't have sex with the guy and even if she did, I don't think that constitutes what you are characterizing her as IMO. I mean, I get not liking her character or character arc and plot.

i like her character, but getting so drunk that you have zero clue whether or not you boned a complete stranger in his aquatic mobile home is not something to be celebrated, and yet that story arc was supposed to be some beautiful, triumphant story for rebecca. 

you don't need to do this, but if you go back and look at my original response after watching that episode you'll see that i edited it. amidst the debate about whether or not they boned i originally posted that if they did smash then that means he raped her, which seems dark for this show. i edited the post for fear of how it would be received, but after watching an ensuing episode where they said:

•teenage boys are scummy

•scummy teenage boys become scummy men

•men who keep photos of their exes are pieces of shit

•nobody wants to spend time with "old white men"

all in the first ~25 minutes of the episode, i've found it very strange/nonsensical/hypocritical to just be crushing one gender for behaving one way (keeping photos of your ex), but then celebrating the other gender for being "sex positive" and getting blackout drunk/wondering if you banged a stranger the next morning with the implication that if you did that it wouldn't be the worst thing. 

again, if you're going to go hard on the social commentary, you should be consistent.

Edited May 16, 2023 by shadow_operative

[Hate 20061]

the rebecca/amsterdam story is so strange given the tone/theme of so many of these recent episodes. in this story arc rebecca:
•is on her phone and somehow unaware that she's in everyone's way on the bike path 
•meets a strange man from a foreign country wh she knows nothing about and joins him in his aquatic mobile home for an evening of drinking and...
•gets so black out drunk that she has no recollection of whether or not she fucked this complete stranger river rat 
and yet we as viewers are supposed to view this as some sort of happy, beautiful love story for rebecca. the writers can't get their story straight. they had an episode where it was of paramount importance that all men respect women and their privacy by deleting photos of former loved ones off of their phones, only to glorify jack, a woman, ogling a famous man's dick from his own leaked photos. similarly we somehow were supposed to celebrate rebecca being a loose, drunken whore behaving dangerously, which really goes against so much of what this show is trying to promote. if you're going to go so hard on the social commentary you probably shouldn't blatantly contradict yourself like that. 

The boat dude absolutely respected her privacy the whole time. He left so she could shower in private. She was free to leave at any time. He didn’t even ask her last name. He offered her water when it appeared she was getting a buzz. He put a blanket over her when she fell asleep and left her alone. How much more respect should he have given her? And a drunken whore?? Really? That’s what you’re going with? What actions did she take to make her a drunken whore?

He appeared to treat her the way you treated an actual porn star eating pizza at your house. Which is nothing happened.

[shadow_operative 15931]

5 minutes ago, Hate said:

The boat dude absolutely respected her privacy the whole time. He left so she could shower in private. She was free to leave at any time. He didn’t even ask her last name. He offered her water when it appeared she was getting a buzz. He put a blanket over her when she fell asleep and left her alone. How much more respect should he have given her? And a drunken whore?? Really? That’s what you’re going with? What actions did she take to make her a drunken whore?

"hey strange guy i met 16 hours ago- did i fuck you last night? i can't remember." 

im simply saying that it's strange to me to celebrate and revere a woman comporting herself this way on a show that is currently crushing men for essentially possessing a sex drive. it's not consistent. it's a weird mixed message.

Edited May 16, 2023 by shadow_operative

[Surly Bevo 24608]

Didn't Rebecca:

Marry Rupert after engaging in what was an extra-marital affair for him after he came to her bar every night for two months

Bone a waiter in Liverpool

Date a wanker who wears a Manchester City/United muffler until Roy snapped her out of that

Have a sexual relationship with a player on the club that she owns

But all of a sudden the night on the canal boat in Amsterdam where she wasn't sure if she had sex or not is the bridge too far for her character?

As put together as the Boss Ass Bitch is, she's always been a rather big romantic mess.

 

Edited May 16, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[PantsTent 2002]

Dibs on aquatic mobile home for band name.

[henrygandorf 28916]

41 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

The thing about that that was incongruous to me was the idea of Rebecca as the damsel in distress that the male hero has to rescue.  She made decisions that episode that I wouldn’t think Rebecca would make. Sure I’ll come aboard your boat house. Sure I’ll shower in your boat house. Sure I’ll stay for dinner. Sure I’ll get drunk at the home of a stranger while in a foreign country. Magic of Amsterdam I guess. 

that episode seemed to be a bit of a one-off escapist journey for everyone, or at least that's how i took it.  nothing that happened in amsterdam should have spillover into the other episodes, with the exception of course being the total football fever dream.  i'm not saying that's how they're treating it, but several signs point that direction.  not quite the 2 isolated eps from last season, but close.

it's another example of how ted lasso tries to do a lot and sometimes fails.  there are no rules in half-hour comedy shows anymore, including the fact that every episode this season is longer than any episode of the west wing.

i think it would be a fun exercise to take a season of an old sitcom like say, three's company.  then everybody goes and watches it, and we micro-analyze the characters and plot like we do ted lasso.  "there's no way chrissy would've forgotten how to make a bed, why did she say that?"

[mdmost 42501]

45 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Didn't Rebecca:

Marry Rupert after engaging in what was an extra-marital affair for him after he came to her bar every night for two months

Bone a waiter in Liverpool

Date a wanker who wears a Manchester City/United muffler until Roy snapped her out of that

Have a sexual relationship with a player on the club that she owns

But all of a sudden the night on the canal boat in Amsterdam where she wasn't sure if she had sex or not is the bridge too far for her character?

As put together as the Boss Ass Bitch is, she's always been a rather big romantic mess.

 

This shit is so hamfisted and woke I can't even remember details of the last two seasons!

-yes I know I'm going to the same well too much but it fits. 

Edited May 16, 2023 by mdmost

[Pig Bellmont 8637]

4 hours ago, Pokoloco said:

So, Rebecca will be pregnant with the Amsterdam guy's kid right?  

No- they didn’t sleep together. She’s probably going to be stepmom to his daughter tho

[utee94 15722]

18 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

that episode seemed to be a bit of a one-off escapist journey for everyone, or at least that's how i took it.  nothing that happened in amsterdam should have spillover into the other episodes, with the exception of course being the total football fever dream.  i'm not saying that's how they're treating it, but several signs point that direction.  not quite the 2 isolated eps from last season, but close.

it's another example of how ted lasso tries to do a lot and sometimes fails.  there are no rules in half-hour comedy shows anymore, including the fact that every episode this season is longer than any episode of the west wing.

i think it would be a fun exercise to take a season of an old sitcom like say, three's company.  then everybody goes and watches it, and we micro-analyze the characters and plot like we do ted lasso.  "there's no way chrissy would've forgotten how to make a bed, why did she say that?"

Completely agree with all of this, including wanting to see the surl analyze a season or two of Three's Company.  

[Red Five 40455]

21 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

i think it would be a fun exercise to take a season of an old sitcom like say, three's company.  then everybody goes and watches it, and we micro-analyze the characters and plot like we do ted lasso. 

I really don't understand why Arnold continually asks Willis whatchu talkin' about. He knows exactly what Willis is talking about. It does nothing but take me out of the show and make Arnold look stupid.

[Deej 76219]

1 hour ago, HamsterHookah said:

I've more or less agree with you entirely up to this point, but what are you talking about here in the bold? She didn't have sex with the guy and even if she did, I don't think that constitutes what you are characterizing her as IMO. I mean, I get not liking her character or character arc and plot.

Derka an incel?

[Pokoloco 1242]

1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Only if he rufied her. They didn't have sex was Rebecca's recollection.

Remember after she left he said "we did it" or something along those lines?

[Surly Bevo 24608]

2 minutes ago, Pokoloco said:

Remember after she left he said "we did it" or something along those lines?

He said "oh we did" and he meant they had gezelliig 

Also, I don't think that was a throwaway episode....he's going to find her.  Green matchbook, fell out of her pocket when clothes were being dried.  Probably why they showed how it turned up in Ted's pocket looking for change as a reminder it is still out there.  Leads him to Ola's and the rest goes from there.  

Edited May 16, 2023 by Surly Bevo

[gernblansten 3159]

Anonymous one night stand? Nope, never heard of such. Just impossible. Hollywood just making up crazy nonsense now.

[Red Five 40455]

15 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

He said "oh we did" and he meant they had gezelliig 

Also, I don't think that was a throwaway episode....he's going to find her.  Green matchbook, fell out of her pocket when clothes were being dried.  Probably why they showed how it turned up in Ted's pocket looking for change as a reminder it is still out there.  Leads him to Ola's and the rest goes from there.  

"I'm sorry I roofied you."

[HamsterHookah 112]

34 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I really don't understand why Arnold continually asks Willis whatchu talkin' about. He knows exactly what Willis is talking about. It does nothing but take me out of the show and make Arnold look stupid.

I’ve been watching I love Lucy and Sanford and Sons on TVLand. Those shows put Ted Lasso to much, much shame.

[henrygandorf 28916]

36 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Completely agree with all of this, including wanting to see the surl analyze a season or two of Three's Company.  

you don't think i'll do it?  i'll fucking do it, i've got spare time.

all seasons streaming free on pluto.

be on the lookout for a thread.

[henrygandorf 28916]

5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

you don't think i'll do it?  i'll fucking do it, i've got spare time.

all seasons streaming free on pluto.

be on the lookout for a thread.

ok it seems like season 2 and 3 are the best ones, voted by fans.  season 8 is ranked 3rd.  so it's really about suzanne somers vs priscilla barnes.  

https://episode.ninja/series/threes-company/best-seasons

[Ted Lange 15935]

Make sure to comment/document how woke Threes Company is, what with Jack pretending to be gay.  

[henrygandorf 28916]

14 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Make sure to comment/document how woke Threes Company is, what with Jack pretending to be gay.  

mr roper's middle name was woke.

[Deej 76219]

6 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

mr roper's middle name was woke.

[dcar00 13961]

1 hour ago, Red Five said:

I really don't understand why Arnold continually asks Willis whatchu talkin' about. He knows exactly what Willis is talking about. It does nothing but take me out of the show and make Arnold look stupid.

of course you would pick the one show that has the old white dude with 2 black sons.