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Mrs Whiggins

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6 hours ago, bolverk said:

 

 

Revealing a sheltered life here: that pouch in Jr’s video; that is his stash  and his dealer? And if the video is enhanced all the white stuff in the seams of the pouch is coke? 
 

How incredibly sad. I feel little sympathy for the family at this point, but I do support comprehensive mental and medical treatment for addiction. 

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9 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

more crazy

Strange comment. In most ways our public schools have always been a socialist program. Effectively a state controlled monopoly that offers free services and is funded thru taxes for the greater good.

im sure if pressed for a follow on comment, she would hem and haw and yell out some comment about unions and Marxist professors.

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Revealing a sheltered life here: that pouch in Jr’s video; that is his stash  and his dealer? And if the video is enhanced all the white stuff in the seams of the pouch is coke? 
 

How incredibly sad. I feel little sympathy for the family at this point, but I do support comprehensive mental and medical treatment for addiction. 

That’s ex-Ambassador to Germany and ex-Acting DNI Ric Grenell. Did you know he’s openly gay? Because he’ll tell you within 30 seconds that he’s openly gay.  He wields his preference as both cudgel and shield. Reprehensible troll.

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29 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

That’s ex-Ambassador to Germany and ex-Acting DNI Ric Grenell. Did you know he’s openly gay? Because he’ll tell you within 30 seconds that he’s openly gay.  He wields his preference as both cudgel and shield. Reprehensible troll.

Did not recognize him. Gay doesn’t matter one whit to me-he’s an adult and that is his business but his incompetency and (perhaps) complicity with a psychopath does. 
 

What a train wreck of human pathologies. 

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27 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Did not recognize him. Gay doesn’t matter one whit to me-he’s an adult and that is his business but his incompetency and (perhaps) complicity with a psychopath does. 
 

What a train wreck of human pathologies. 

Yes, the bigger issues are 

a. Germany as a whole had big issues with him

b. He’s in a senior position with the Trump campaign 24hrs after resigning from civil service. That shit needs to change on both sides of the aisle.

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1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Walter with a good reference.

But also this. This is important too:

It's been talked about on this forum, but get others to the polls. Drag them if you have to, but every vote must be to stop this.

All of this.  Listen to the speeches and the energy.  Does it remind you of Hiter-esque nationalist screeds?  Of course.  Then remember this: those screeds WORKED.

The GOP is running time-honored, proven plays.  They WILL get their base out to vote, at some ridiculous number - think 95%.  Even if only 40% of America is Trumpist nuts, at 95% turnout, 40% support gets you re-elected.

This race will never be anything better than a tossup.

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3 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

What do the following groups all have in common?

Neo-Nazi's

Jim Jones' followers

Trumpers

"High quality" Cadillac owners

 

They were all duped victims of lies and advertising propaganda that have made their lives worse.

Never understood the love for modern Cadillacs. My exposure to them is 70’s to current and they do nothing for me esp at the price 

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1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

Never understood the love for modern Cadillacs. My exposure to them is 70’s to current and they do nothing for me esp at the price 

Me either.  However, the Lincoln Continental Towncar.....had to rent one of those a while back (okay, 20 years ago -- sheesh), as it was the only car available on the lot.  Had to drive it to client interviews in various W. Texas locales.....and HOLY SHIT WAS IT AWESOME.  The seats were more comfy than any furniture I own.  Its natural smooth cruising speed is 85, and it drove like you were on a cushion of air.

I came home dreaming of the days when I could wear velcro shoes and sansabelt slacks, and tool around town and on the wide open highways in my sweet Lincoln.

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2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Me either.  However, the Lincoln Continental Towncar.....had to rent one of those a while back (okay, 20 years ago -- sheesh), as it was the only car available on the lot.  Had to drive it to client interviews in various W. Texas locales.....and HOLY SHIT WAS IT AWESOME.  The seats were more comfy than any furniture I own.  Its natural smooth cruising speed is 85, and it drove like you were on a cushion of air.

I came home dreaming of the days when I could wear velcro shoes and sansabelt slacks, and tool around town and on the wide open highways in my sweet Lincoln.

My grandfather bought 3 new vehicles in my lifetime. An F150 longbed in 73 and an F150 longbed in 93 (that is still our ranch truck)

In the mid 80’s he bought (for my grandmother allegedly) a mark vii LSC. That car was amazingly advanced for the time and drove/rode like a dream. 

 

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27 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

SIAP...One of these is the America I want to live in.

 

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it's no wonder they did their delegate parade early and when no one was watching.  that shit was lame.  they did a lot of big talking during the dnc about how theirs was going to be better - more positive, live audience, uplifting.   pppppfffffttttt.  this rnc is boring as hell and produced poorly.

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2 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Walter with a good reference.

 

It's been talked about on this forum, but get others to the polls. Drag them if you have to, but every vote must be to stop this.

Ok, I mean, I guess.  But if you're worried about nailing down your base 70 days out from the election, you're in trouble.

And anyway, you should be focusing your GOTV efforts to a narrower audience of people who you know support you.  It doesn't make sense to have a nationally televised convention and use it to speak to only a small percentage of the public.  Aside from everything else, there's a huge opportunity cost that goes with that.

The Democrats spent their entire convention trying to persuade people who are outside their base to vote for their candidates.  That's typically what conventions seek to do, because by the time the convention rolls around parties should have some level of confidence that they've persuaded their base to vote for their candidates.  And their message reflected the broad appeal that they were trying to make

The Trumpublicans clearly don't have that level of confidence that they've nailed down their base.  So they're having to spend time during their convention talking to a small segment of the potential viewing public, rather than people who are persuadable.

Bottom Line: At some point people need to stop assuming that Trump is playing 83-D chess.  He's just losing.  And this convention reflects that.

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3 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Ok, I mean, I guess.  But if you're worried about nailing down your base 70 days out from the election, you're in trouble.

And anyway, you should be focusing your GOTV efforts to a narrower audience of people who you know support you.  It doesn't make sense to have a nationally televised convention and use it to speak to only a small percentage of the public.  Aside from everything else, there's a huge opportunity cost that goes with that.

The Democrats spent their entire convention trying to persuade people who are outside their base to vote for their candidates.  That's typically what conventions seek to do, because by the time the convention rolls around parties should have some level of confidence that they've persuaded their base to vote for their candidates.  And their message reflected the broad appeal that they were trying to make

The Trumpublicans clearly don't have that level of confidence that they've nailed down their base.  So they're having to spend time during their convention talking to a small segment of the potential viewing public, rather than people who are persuadable.

Bottom Line: At some point people need to stop assuming that Trump is playing 83-D chess.  He's just losing.  And this convention reflects that.

you take dead aim at your base for 2 reasons - either you're worried about their vote, or you don't know how to do it any other way.  

you feel confident about this approach if you feel your base is big enough to win an election.  in a fair election, it isn't.  that's just math.  but they'll try to turn out their vote, and they'll try to suppress everyone else, all while muddying the waters on mail-in ballots and election legitimacy. 

this. needs. to. be. a. wipeout.

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2 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

you take dead aim at your base for 2 reasons - either you're worried about their vote, or you don't know how to do it any other way.  

I think you understate the "you don't know how to do it any other way" scenario.  And I did, too.

I think there is a distinct aspect of that.  Having lived in the Fox News bubble for so long, I'm not sure they have any actual clue how to make a case to someone who never watches cable news (which is to say the vast majority of Americans).

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/this-isnt-a-national-convention-its-a-republican-funeral-pyre

 

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The Republican National Convention was an ancient and storied affair, and I’ve been to more of them than the average dog. Party conventions were spectacles to draw attention to the nominee’s role as the avatar of the will of the voters and as an embodiment of the philosophical principles of the party. They were timeless features of our quadrennial hell-march.

 

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This year? Not so much. Night one of the Trump Org Multi-Level Marketing Super-SalesCon Living Your Best Life Maximum Potential Oh My God The Black People Are Coming Unlimited Scream Fest 2020 achieved a level of Trump-adulation where even the North Koreans were likely saying, “Bro, ease back.” He wasn’t just the nominee, he was the — ahem — “Defender of Western Civilization” according to tween heartthrob and Turning Point USA frontman Charlie Kirk.

 

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The first night of this fearfest was also heavy on prodding the Trump demo’s Foxmygdala with the fear of black and brown people coming to the suburbs. Riots, crime, socialism and “low-quality apartments” were a constant throughline. Expect much, much more. So much for “uplifting” as a theme of this convention.

 

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The presence of a few ringers — Senator Tim Scott and former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley gave speeches that in a world where they didn’t constantly kowtow to Donald Trump would have been viewed as inspirational — didn’t offset the centrality of fearmongering. 

Finally, it was a not-so secret handoff, a transition to the new moment when the Party of Reagan and Lincoln finally degenerated into the Party of Trump, Tucker, and Hannity once and for all. RIP, GOP. All hail the Trump Party.

That’s why the only speeches that really mattered last night were those from the aspiring heirs to the Douchebag Throne, Donald Trump, Jr. and his companion Kimberley Guilfoyle. Like a robot Evita, Giulfoyle shouted to an empty hall for six long, long, long minutes, devouring all the scenery and gesturing so wildly I thought she might have been summoning a demon from some astral plane. 

As for Don Jr’s hopped-up performance — for some reason “cocaine” was trending on social media during his speech — it was one of his endless “Daddy, love meeeeeee” pleas, but it was also a warning shot to the 2024 Republican field. 

I’ve written about this before, but the ironic futility of the Senate Ambition Caucus — Josh Hawley, Tom Cotton, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and others all eager to win the White House — is that Donald Trump Jr. is the future of the Trump Party. No matter how low they bow, no matter how much they cover up for Donald Trump, in the end, they’ll never be made guys in the Trump Mob. 

Donald the Younger is fluent in the language of lib-owning, aggrieved-bro whiteness, his voice rising to a furious whine as his piggy little eyes squint in what he thinks looks tough but scans as “too much blow.” He’s a second-generation con man, ready to fleece non-college Republican voters who will buy into even his most obvious lies if they see him on Hannity often enough. 

The other Republicans with ambitions for tomorrow — bless your heart, Nikki, — still foolishly believe they can clean up Trumpism, run it though a car wash, and come out with a party that isn’t in the grip of a celebrity personality cult driven by authoritarian statism and nationalist populism.

Donnie Death Touch killed it. 

His worshippers just occupied the Grand Old Party’s temple, threw out its guiding sacraments and put in a personal oath of loyalty. For good measure, he replaced the old priests with his family members, who make up a large share of the convention’s featured speakers though, of course, the Donald has made himself the only speaker who counts here. 

Oh, sure, President Negligent Homicide didn’t set out to kill the live convention; he just let 175,000 people die unnecessarily, and his televised Big Show and the roaring adulation of his death cult was collateral damage of the raging incompetence of his COVID response. The Zoom convention is a first-order effect of too many dead Americans on his watch. 

Set aside the long-lead planning in Charlotte flushed down the political toilet by Trump’s mismanagement of the COVID crisis. Set aside the abortive efforts to hold the convention in Jacksonville, an exercise so doomed to failure that the flocks of vultures flying lazy circles over the St. John’s River practically darkened the sky from the moment it was announced. 

This isn’t just a post-COVID convention. It’s a post- Republican, and post-American convention. Trump’s-kidding-not-kidding aside about being president for 12 more years shows how the GOP has followed Trump into a slough of political despond from which no party returneth. Nothing matters except owning the libs and the performative media-hatefest.

The convention Monday didn’t even grunt at any kind of actual political philosophy or ideological intent. It was night one of a four-night celebration of the Dear Leader and his adult children. It’s the bastard offspring of The Apprentice, the Fox “Oh, Donald you’re so powerful and manly” spank bank Sean Hannity works off during his evening Lord Haw Haw broadcasts. 

The platform, that grisly task, was a mechanism that allowed the GOP’s factions  — broadly and historically divided between economic and personal liberty Republicans, socially conservative Republicans, and foreign policy Republicans  — to have loud, ugly fights behind closed doors on a document immediately and utterly forgotten, win or lose. The cynic in me would remind you that the platforms of both parties are meaningless, politically, and managerially empty gestures to sub-sets of the party factions that need to have their ears scratched. 

Still, sometimes it matters to put down on paper the ideas that illuminate your values and aspirations. The Founders did it once, and it worked out reasonably well after a century or so. 

But Trump’s convention is a base-only Trumpfest, a chance for the GOP’s invited grandees and the digital audience to fulfill the “Don’t be the first to stop clapping while Saddam is speaking” rule. While Biden’s DNC spent a lot of time trying to widen the window and show Republican and centrist support for the Democratic nominee (to the chagrin of the Bernie Bro demo), Trump’s convention is aggressive in its narrowcasting to the Fox base.

It featured people who love Trump, people who really love Trump, people who sport Trump leg tats, and people who will likely beat you to death if you keep looking skunk-eyed at their MAGA hat, ya filthy peckerwood. Calling it cult-like barely covers it. This is a convention about one man.

Its philosophy is adoration. Its principles are obedience and subservience. It’s leader isn’t a small or big-r republican; he’s the con man who formed a cult that got bigger than he dreamed. This is a celebration of a morally vacant man inhabiting the decaying corpse of the GOP like some eternally hungry parasite. His adherents and votaries will stand at the podium, blinking slowly and praying they don’t drop a single line of praise of the Dear Leader from their remarks.

Last night set the fire. Tonight should be worse, because if there’s one thing we know in the age of Trump, it can always get worse. 

 

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3 minutes ago, horn4life said:

My biggest takeaway from last night?

Kimberly Guilfoyle must have an incessant oral fixation.  As that woman is not even close to the quality level I would expect if I was Trump Jr.  I simply never realized how unattractive she was.

The 'rona made her deaf, apparently. 

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5 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

What do the following groups all have in common?

Neo-Nazi's

Jim Jones' followers

Trumpers

"High quality" Cadillac owners

 

They were all duped victims of lies and advertising propaganda that have made their lives worse.

 

The guy at the dealership said my 1996 Fleetwood Sedan would appreciate over time.

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