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12 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Is their daughter a slave or something?

She's something, alright.

I'm not going to cast stones towards a 15 year old, however.  I am going towards both of her parents.  If they were so attuned to their professional standing that they could not see what it was doing to the children in their home, then that's a cross for which they have to bear.  

Kids want love and attention.  Pretty sure their daughter was not seeing either of those from her folks.

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If they cannot receive positive life-affirming attention, then yeah, the adage of any attention is better than none is applicable. 
 

 

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Some children have a greater need than others, but negative attention will swivel heads beyond just her mom and dad.
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Also, fun fact...Mia apparently lives here in Austin.  My buddy that's still on the "bar scene", or was before Covid broke.  Said he used to see her out with Congressman Gohmert's daughter.  The one that's a musician.  As in out and about partying.  That seems like a fun duo. 

Anyway, feel bad for Conway kids.  Parents breaking up is hard enough without it being public.  Then again, making the issues behind a divorce public knowledge is how Obama defeated Ryan for U.S. Senate in 2004 which launched him to President which is why all my hopes are pinned onto Joe Biden to defeat Trump in 2020.  And then maybe we course correct and get our lives back on track by 2024.  Because I am freaking the fuck out!  First Monday or Kindgergarten and I'm texting my friend, "Hey, you used to see that porn star and that Congressman's singer-songwriter on West Sixth awhile back, right?"  Go joe! 

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56 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

This. I can't think of a single redeeming quality either of her parents can claim to have. They're just absolute monsters.

George apparently spearheaded the Jones v. Clinton appellate effort, including the Supreme Court advocacy.  While that may have had nasty political motivations, the upshot was a significant restraint on presidential power (civil suits based on out of office conduct may proceed against a sitting President).

Similar on the Lincoln Project, although based on Schmidt's twitter excoriation of Cruz and Rubio, he may be the real brains of that outfit.

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3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

George apparently spearheaded the Jones v. Clinton appellate effort, including the Supreme Court advocacy.  While that may have had nasty political motivations, the upshot was a significant restraint on presidential power (civil suits based on out of office conduct may proceed against a sitting President).

Similar on the Lincoln Project, although based on Schmidt's twitter excoriation of Cruz and Rubio, he may be the real brains of that outfit.

The Lincoln Project shit is just part of their act to maintain a foot in respectable beltway politics in case Trump loses. It's all just a public game to them.

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The Lincoln Project shit is just part of their act to maintain a foot in respectable beltway politics in case Trump loses. It's all just a public game to them.

Nonetheless, I think it is at least somewhat effective.

I'm not really defending either of them.  I just recently did a shallow dive on both of them to see what was what.  That stuck out about Conway.  He's half Filipino.  Did not know that.

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This is the most amplified case, but just another example of how Trumpism hurts family dynamics.

My wife's parents are big Trump supporters, and even though we've never had specific arguments or conversations about his politics, it's the underlying reason we've drifted apart over the last couple of years. Which fucking sucks, as our 3 year old loves them. And now my dad is caught up the Trump/Facebook world, and I don't want the same thing to happen with him.

I fucking hate this shit. 

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What teenager agrees with anything her parents do? But her stepping recently into a more public and critical role of the current administration certainly made the rifts more public and visceral.  I'll be honest I was surprised Kellyanne stayed on this long.  She didn't need to, the most important lying and disinformation was done long ago.  She must have gotten addicted to the Fox news fawning as she preened.  It was something she began to crave, much like or President also craves attention.  I must say that James Carville and Mary Maitlin did this thing better as when on party simply repeatly lies... well....

It could also be that both Kelly and George know that usually by late August the cake has been baked and BOTH their internal polling shows that both their work is done now.   And now it's time to try and patch the family's torn fabric.

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9 minutes ago, horn4life said:

What teenager agrees with anything her parents do? But her stepping recently into a more public and critical role of the current administration certainly made the rifts more public and visceral.  I'll be honest I was surprised Kellyanne stayed on this long.  She didn't need to, the most important lying and disinformation was done long ago.  She must have gotten addicted to the Fox news fawning as she preened.  It was something she began to crave, much like or President also craves attention.  I must say that James Carville and Mary Maitlin did this thing better as when on party simply repeatly lies... well....

 

A good friend of mine is a national political commentator that often appears with one of them.  And has been friends with them since he left campaigns in 2004 (he worked closely with Maitlin for years).  He said they are incredibly graphic and vulgar when they all hang out together/dinner/etc.  Says that they describe their sex life in detail (or used to anyway) and it's every bit as filthy and lustful as you'd imagine two people so diametrically opposed to one another.  That made me happy to know that two people like water and vinegar could be so in love and slam so hard especially at their age.  Good for them.  

Having said that, I just don't see that with George and KellyAnne.  Even without him attacking Trump, they both look soulless and without passion of any kind.  

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23 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The Lincoln Project shit is just part of their act to maintain a foot in respectable beltway politics in case Trump loses. It's all just a public game to them.

It's obviously impossible to get inside one's head.  But I think I disagree with this.

It seems to me a lot closer to the rage you see from a person whose spouse leaves him/her for another woman/man.

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37 minutes ago, Lobo said:

A good friend of mine is a national political commentator that often appears with one of them.  And has been friends with them since he left campaigns in 2004 (he worked closely with Maitlin for years).  He said they are incredibly graphic and vulgar when they all hang out together/dinner/etc.  Says that they describe their sex life in detail (or used to anyway) and it's every bit as filthy and lustful as you'd imagine two people so diametrically opposed to one another.  That made me happy to know that two people like water and vinegar could be so in love and slam so hard especially at their age.  Good for them.  

Having said that, I just don't see that with George and KellyAnne.  Even without him attacking Trump, they both look soulless and without passion of any kind.  

He's a moon-faced DC lawyer and she's a cow-titted pollster, so they work all the angles.  This is just another opportunity for them.  Their daughter is lost to them, and it's every bit their fucking fault.

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Also, fun fact...Mia apparently lives here in Austin.  My buddy that's still on the "bar scene", or was before Covid broke.  Said he used to see her out with Congressman Gohmert's daughter.  The one that's a musician.  As in out and about partying.  That seems like a fun duo. 
Anyway, feel bad for Conway kids.  Parents breaking up is hard enough without it being public.  Then again, making the issues behind a divorce public knowledge is how Obama defeated Ryan for U.S. Senate in 2004 which launched him to President which is why all my hopes are pinned onto Joe Biden to defeat Trump in 2020.  And then maybe we course correct and get our lives back on track by 2024.  Because I am freaking the fuck out!  First Monday or Kindgergarten and I'm texting my friend, "Hey, you used to see that porn star and that Congressman's singer-songwriter on West Sixth awhile back, right?"  Go joe! 

Friend of mine in Austin used to hang out with Mia just playing video games on twitch. Totally clean dorky just hanging out playing video games.
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3 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

He's a moon-faced DC lawyer and she's a cow-titted pollster, so they work all the angles.  This is just another opportunity for them.  Their daughter is lost to them, and it's every bit their fucking fault.

WTF?  They are awful people.  I feel terribly for all 4 of their kids growing up in that toxic household, raised by two horrible human beings.   But what's with the racial slur?

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I can't be the only one who thinks this is a coordinated effort by the entire family to set themselves up for a multi-year Kardashian type contract. Reality show at the center of the business, all kinds of other branding opportunities.

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16 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

WTF?  They are awful people.  I feel terribly for all 4 of their kids growing up in that toxic household, raised by two horrible human beings.   But what's with the racial slur?

Yeah, didn't mean it like that, just that he has a fat face.  My bad.

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

This is the most amplified case, but just another example of how Trumpism hurts family dynamics.

My wife's parents are big Trump supporters, and even though we've never had specific arguments or conversations about his politics, it's the underlying reason we've drifted apart over the last couple of years. Which fucking sucks, as our 3 year old loves them. And now my dad is caught up the Trump/Facebook world, and I don't want the same thing to happen with him.

I fucking hate this shit. 

Yeah, my BIL (wife's bro) is a Trumper, as is his new wife, a die hard Louisiana bred Trumper who reinforces his trumpism.  And it has caused me to lose respect for him and want to spend less time with them.  Which sucks, cuz he is otherwise a great guy.  This fucker has divided the nation more deeply than we could have ever imagined.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Nonetheless, I think it is at least somewhat effective.

I'm not really defending either of them.  I just recently did a shallow dive on both of them to see what was what.  That stuck out about Conway.  He's half Filipino.  Did not know that.

His ethnicity came up back when trump referred to some Chinese person as "moon face". 

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34 minutes ago, bluto said:


Friend of mine in Austin used to hang out with Mia just playing video games on twitch. Totally clean dorky just hanging out playing video games.

I know a plastic surgeon that does a hockey podcast, and she's been his guest on more than one occasion.  

She's also a patient.  She's disclosed that; I'm not disclosing it. 

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13 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:
His ethnicity came up back when trump referred to some Chinese person as "moon face". 


It wasn’t “some Chinese person,” it was George Conway.
 

 

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1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I thought it was in reference to him being a fat fuck.

I used to believe the same about the insult until learning otherwise when Trump used it against Conway a while back, and someone pointed out its historic usage as a slur against Asians.

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13 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I used to believe the same about the insult until learning otherwise when Trump used it against Conway a while back, and someone pointed out its historic usage as a slur against Asians.

Sadly, Trump Stephen Miller, is a racism savant, and has taught us way too many racial slurs and symbols over the last four years.

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the thing i simply do not understand is how they let things get this far. their daughter is very obviously hurting and has been crying out for help for months now. and the thing is that they obviously fucking knew it, but it did not deter them. there was a tweet or something awhile back that showed kellyanne snatching the phone from her daughter during a livestream, and it seemed obvious to me that the daughter was drunk and drinking booze out of a red solo cup and it made me feel gross.

whether cynically crafted or organic, their public conflict has torn their family apart. and here's the thing: they don't need to work! they are wealthy. it was simply ego for each of them, and that's the real shit of it all. 

look, i'm raising two boys, now 13 and 12, and i'm already sensitive to working from home and kind of largely ignoring them for large swaths of the day while i try to maintain household income while my wife is at work. far be it from me to judge, but when you get with donald trump, things turn to shit. i do not understand why she stayed so loyal to such a toxic person, except that she's toxic herself. 

sad.

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Kellyanne has proven that she is a craven, opportunistic whore so it comes as no surprise that she's a shitty Mom.  My guess is that she aligns more with George in her views on Trump than she lets on, simply based on past statements, but who really knows the truth?

I give George no free pass, either.  He knows what she is, and by extension, I presume he is cut from similar cloth.

Attorneys are groomed to be able to argue both sides of an argument.  Perhaps they both see politics as simply sport, and have no problems taking either "side" in the current political climate.  It would certainly make life easier at home.  But they are parents, and it would seem their opportunism has hurt their daughter in very significant ways.  As a parent, I can't imagine not recognizing that fact.

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20 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

the thing i simply do not understand is how they let things get this far. their daughter is very obviously hurting and has been crying out for help for months now. and the thing is that they obviously fucking knew it, but it did not deter them. there was a tweet or something awhile back that showed kellyanne snatching the phone from her daughter during a livestream, and it seemed obvious to me that the daughter was drunk and drinking booze out of a red solo cup and it made me feel gross.

whether cynically crafted or organic, their public conflict has torn their family apart. and here's the thing: they don't need to work! they are wealthy. it was simply ego for each of them, and that's the real shit of it all. 

look, i'm raising two boys, now 13 and 12, and i'm already sensitive to working from home and kind of largely ignoring them for large swaths of the day while i try to maintain household income while my wife is at work. far be it from me to judge, but when you get with donald trump, things turn to shit. i do not understand why she stayed so loyal to such a toxic person, except that she's toxic herself. 

sad.

What is more than ironic is that their arch nemesis, Hillary Clinton, was not wrong when she quoted the adage, "it takes a village to raise a child." Parents, especially poor working parents, will tell you that the investment into children's lives with our time, our care, our love, and our attention are just as important as money; although without money, the giving of ourselves becomes even more difficult.

The GOP and its people cannot seem to wrap their heads around this idea, despite being "pro-life" (whatever that is). They are wrong, but then again their village is quite obviously Mordor.

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5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

This. I can't think of a single redeeming quality either of her parents can claim to have. They're just absolute monsters.

Well one is demonstratively worse than the other. The mother tells dangerous lies on television in support of her dangerous deranged boss. The dad doesn't like that and is vocal about it on social media. If the mom was a teacher and the husband was vocally anti-trump on social media, I bet the kid doesn't care or is otherwise unaffected. The mother being a complete piece of shit and a full-on fucking facist seems to be the bigger of the problems here.

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10 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Out of place fun fact... Mia only made porn for 3 months, 12 scenes, earned $12k TOTAL in here "career"...

That's a big lie from Mia. One of the porn companies released what she was paid in her six months with them. She has lied about a lot of things related to her career.

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A pornstar that lied about her career?  Well I for one, am over-fucking-whelmed.  

Still makes her more honest that KellyAnne Conway, anyway.  

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7 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

If she's a minor, her parents need to lock down her twitter and online presence.

Cool. Let’s vilify a minor because she’s been raised by horrid shitsacks.

Curious. Wasn't this the person that *checks notes-yep* vilified a minor who was victimized by mass media because he was ostensibly raised by bad parents which led to the minor being irrevocably groomed to be become one of them when he turned 18?

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9 hours ago, lemonlime said:

Sadly, Trump Stephen Miller, is a racism savant, and has taught us way too many racial slurs and symbols over the last four years.

Honestly, I had him pegged for a fucking bog jumper, until a friend pointed out that Miller was a self-hating Jewish kid or something.  Probably picked on by the jocks when he went to retrieve the A/V cart from the coach's office or something.

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9 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

the thing i simply do not understand is how they let things get this far. their daughter is very obviously hurting and has been crying out for help for months now. and the thing is that they obviously fucking knew it, but it did not deter them. there was a tweet or something awhile back that showed kellyanne snatching the phone from her daughter during a livestream, and it seemed obvious to me that the daughter was drunk and drinking booze out of a red solo cup and it made me feel gross.

whether cynically crafted or organic, their public conflict has torn their family apart. and here's the thing: they don't need to work! they are wealthy. it was simply ego for each of them, and that's the real shit of it all. 

Kellyanne is really good at polling complete strangers, but she can't read what's going on with her own daughter until it's damn near too late.  I'm guessing there was a lot more behind the emancipation tweet than we know about - that wasn't a matter of a 15 year-old all of the sudden waking up and saying "fuck this I'm out!"

But, family aside, I'm also wondering if Kellyanne is looking at the polls, since it's her wheelhouse, and this is as good a time as any to bail.

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Seems like yall are putting a lot of stock in the rantings of a 15-year-old.

No defense of either of the Conways.  They may be as terrible parents as particularly she seems to be as a person.

But God knows perfectly good parents have had to deal with 15-year-old psychopaths before.

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