Several shot during 3rd night of Kenosha riots

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

6 minutes ago, dad said:

So since you’re applauding this vigilante justice by teenagers you’re of the mind that we might as well deploy an army of teenagers with semi auto weapons to clean up the streets of these filthy pesky protesters with suspect backgrounds amirite?

I wouldn’t recommend doing what he did.  He’s definitely guilty of illegally open carrying (the pearl clutching about him crossing state lines is stupid though — it was 15 miles away).
 

I have no sympathy for the dickheads he shot.  The world is better off without them.   And I think it is more likely than not he isn’t convicted of any of the other charges. 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Johnny Sack

[washparkhorn 9,935]

19 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

A minor shot a pedophile who was chasing him.  

 

 

[Surlymermaid 444]

I wouldn’t recommend doing what he did.  He’s definitely guilty of illegally open carrying (the pearl clutching about him crossing state lines is stupid though — it was 15 miles away).
 
I have no sympathy for the dickheads he shot.  The world is better off without them.   And I think it is more likely than not he isn’t convicted of any of the other charges. 

There are a lot of ‘stupid’ laws —are you suggesting we pick and choose which to follow based on our personal justification? So, basically we can arbitrarily throw out the laws that don’t support the image we are trying to create? Good to know.


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[staboner 4,959]

1 hour ago, dad said:

I've never stepped foot in the cloak room. Is this the cloak room? Are they all pieces of shit like this Johnny Lick My Sack? 

the website is sadly bleeding on all edges.

Sack has always been himself. he is a good straight shooting slorch. clear as day. not sure why posters interact with him still though.

Wishing people dead. Maybe we can get Tahoe to start one of his old polls and ask who we most wish for to be dead?

America is not healthy friends. But we know that. ya'll be cool. Oh and also, stop responding to the dumbasses over and over again. please. lord. 

[52-80 19,099]

7 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Did the murderer know about that or catch him in an act of domestic violence?

17 year old incel murderers don’t get to decide who lives and who dies.
 

the 17 year old knew he was being threatened and chased at full speed by a 36 year old man with intent to inflict violence on him. 

 

36 year olds with a rap sheet and history of aggression don't get to pursue and attack other people, without any consequences.

 

that good enough for ya?

[washparkhorn 9,935]

30 minutes ago, staboner said:

Wishing people dead. Maybe we can get Tahoe to start one of his old polls and ask who we most wish for to be dead?

America is not healthy friends. But we know that. ya'll be cool. Oh and also, stop responding to the dumbasses over and over again. please. lord. 

Facts.

 

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by washparkhorn
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[Newdoc 3,433]

2 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

I think we would all agree that conflict often occurs where counter-protestors feel the need to take the law into their own hands

So torched small businesses and high dollar merchandise are counter protesting?

[Incredulity 11,561]

22 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

So torched small businesses and high dollar merchandise are counter protesting?

They are engaged in capitalism so....

yeah...

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[washparkhorn 9,935]

26 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

So torched small businesses and high dollar merchandise are counter protesting?

Protestors in this instance = BLM with assorted hangers on.

Counter-protestors = Vigilantes slinging weapons

___________

It can be flipped. For instance:

_______________________________

Protestors = Nazis/Kluxers/skin heads protesting interracial marriage/jews/POC/gays/lesbians/trans

Counter-protestors = Antifa

______________

It was a simple point - and not contentious.  Having active counter-protestors taking the law into their own hands is a recipe for physical human violence against other humans. 

No?

[washparkhorn 9,935]

11 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

They are engaged in capitalism so....

yeah...

jimcarreyyeah.gif

 

How's Chinese state capitalism working out for you?

[Cajun 11,675]

11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

"“If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way. That’s why I have my rifle. I’ve got to protect myself, obviously.”

So apparently going into another state and playing policeman was his "job".

No wonder his classmates thought he'd be the school shooter.  

Another white knight just like Garrett in ATX.

Hope it was worth it dipshits.

[Cajun 11,675]

4 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

 

Those encouraging civil war are nihilists and/or sociopaths. 

Zaht's why they call me I am an expehrt...

[Sgt Hulk 13,648]

These threads provide amazing amounts of data for anyone needing info for their thesis papers 

[Dahobbs 17,451]

5 hours ago, Surlymermaid said:

Minor shoots with gun he is not supposed to have.


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His name doesn't actually appear on the sex offender registry. Why exactly do you think he is pedophile?

Edit: weird, it quoted the wrong person. It was supposed to be @Johnny Sack

Edited August 28, 2020 by Dahobbs

[Captainant 27,474]

2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

His name doesn't actually appear on the sex offender registry. Why exactly do you think he is pedophile?

Edit: weird, it quoted the wrong person. It was supposed to be @Johnny Sack

Yeah actually that's worth talking about. MillerEP found a screenshot that said a victim was a pedo, which upon fact checking didn't pass scrutiny. 

But sack is hanging his iconoclast opinion on that unconfirmed info? Whodathunkit. 

It's almost like he and his ilk just want a reason to cheer on the little fascist teenager that they wish they could have been. Just a reason though, they'll bring their own alternative facts to support it. 

[Enchubben 5,509]

6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes. This is how they think, this is who they are. They run the country, and it is this way because they want it to be that way.

Joy comes from causing others pain and loss. It’s that simple. And that is also the simplest definition of evil. The word exists for a reason, we shouldn’t be afraid to use it.

I’m not going to defend what Johnny said above, but let’s not act like half the people here chastising his view on the deaths of these two clowns, haven’t wished death upon our current POTUS. Fake outrage IMO because of the dislike of Johnny Sack.

“ I fucking hate that fucking fuck, and I hope he chokes on a goddamn Big Mac.” - BrisketTexan, August 14, 2020.

[Bigbend1812 12,895]

13 hours ago, bad_teammate said:

When you don't know what "fascist" means but it sounds inflammatory to use against people you don't like.

[ChickenSandwich 9,798]

13 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

I’m not going to defend what Johnny said above, but let’s not act like half the people here chastising his view on the deaths of these two clowns, haven’t wished death upon our current POTUS. Fake outrage IMO because of the dislike of Johnny Sack.

“ I fucking hate that fucking fuck, and I hope he chokes on a goddamn Big Mac.” - BrisketTexan, August 14, 2020.

Stop it. Hypocrisy is CR currency. 

[wildcat09 29,267]

Johnny Sack supports domestic terrorism. Not a surprise.

[Fondren & Main 6,672]

It’s really entertaining to watch grown men act like toddlers on the internet.

[Brew 3,049]

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

[bad_teammate 13,133]

I do agree that this kid will likely just walk away without convictions and likely later become a cop who will kill some more people. Or a soldier who will kill some more people. In the eyes of American law and society writ large he didn't do anything wrong, he just did it too early in his career.

[52-80 19,099]

10 minutes ago, Brew said:

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

let's ignore that guy's background.  he's the patron saint of kenosha and volunteers to save babies on the weekend. 

 

now, what do you suppose happens when this father teresa runs up on somebody with an firearm?

 

 

[workswithseed 2,037]

1 minute ago, 52-80 said:

let's ignore that guy's background.  he's the patron saint of kenosha and volunteers to save babies on the weekend. 

 

now, what do you suppose happens when this father teresa runs up on somebody with an firearm?

 

 

Blows thier arm up?

[closetohumping 17,407]

Molotov?  Idk, but it does actually look like it's on fire. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1207214919678349&extid=p8gUyckHN9hmZGDW

[closetohumping 17,407]

16 minutes ago, Brew said:

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

He was being assaulted no?  Or am I imagining things? 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

14 minutes ago, Brew said:

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

Real simple there chuck, because some people hate others more than they love the USA. 

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

Just now, closetohumping said:

He was being assaulted no?  Or am I imagining things? 

Assaulted?

hmmmm.... what was he charged with again?

[Captainant 27,474]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Molotov?  Idk, but it does actually look like it's on fire. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1207214919678349&extid=p8gUyckHN9hmZGDW

lmao that FB link is a portal right into infowars/BlueLivesMatter city! What a trip lol. And also watch the video posted yesterday - it's unedited and over 5 hours long of livestreamed footage. It's clear that there was no fire on that bag. If it were on fire it would emit light itself, and I think yall are getting all excited to use a reflection to justify the murderous actions of a 17 year old proto-facist.

[achooloco 1,065]

8 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

When bad people get shot and killed it doesn’t bother me one bit. 

I’m starting to think you are a bad person

[GRHorn 105]

15 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

About the only indisputable truth around here.

A bunch of people foolishly went looking for trouble, and found it.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes 

[52-80 19,099]

it's not a molotov.  it was a shopping bag that held a water bottle.  that said its incredibly disingenuous to say he got shot because he threw a bag.  no, he got shot when he cornered the kid at point blank range. 

 

the bag "throwing" happened seconds before this.  dude got shot when he caught up to the kid

like 2 participants in a bar fight....  both are morons and neither had business being there in the first place.

[closetohumping 17,407]

21 minutes ago, Doc Reeves said:

Assaulted?

hmmmm.... what was he charged with again?

I saw someone try to hit him with a skateboard and it looked like Grosskreutz was packing right? 

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

2 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

like 2 participants in a bar fight....  both are morons and neither had business being there in the first place.

[Dahobbs 17,451]

 

1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Yeah actually that's worth talking about. MillerEP found a screenshot that said a victim was a pedo, which upon fact checking didn't pass scrutiny. 

But sack is hanging his iconoclast opinion on that unconfirmed info? Whodathunkit. 

It's almost like he and his ilk just want a reason to cheer on the little fascist teenager that they wish they could have been. Just a reason though, they'll bring their own alternative facts to support it. 

I went back and pulled up actual entries from the Wisconsin database. The image that has been going around showing Rosenbaum appears to be manipulated. I also haven't found a single DOC # with a letter in it.  They are all numbers only.  So yeah, just like the "Molotov cocktail," it is fake. Amazing how the same people fall for the same shit over and over.

16 hours ago, MillerEP said:

Supposedly info on the ones shot:

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Dahobbs

[GRHorn 105]

13 hours ago, MillerEP said:

After seeing the wound, I'm very surprised they were able to save his arm:

‘Twas merely a flesh wound 

[closetohumping 17,407]

8 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

it's not a molotov.  it was a shopping bag that held a water bottle.  that said its incredibly disingenuous to say he got shot because he threw a bag.  no, he got shot when he cornered the kid at point blank range. 

 

the bag "throwing" happened seconds before this.  dude got shot when he caught up to the kid

like 2 participants in a bar fight....  both are morons and neither had business being there in the first place.

Like a  few pointed out earlier, there's no winners in this thing.  

[shadow_operative 15,932]

51 minutes ago, Brew said:

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

let's see: the gun wasn't his, he crossed state lines to commit a felony, a 17 year old can't legally open carry, and then oh yeah, he murdered two people and blew off another guy's arm, but yeah, let's focus on the criminal history of everyone involved except for this guy. WTF.

Edited August 28, 2020 by shadow_operative

[Cheeseweasel 26,437]

7 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Like a  few pointed out earlier, there's no winners in this thing.  

Well, everyone who doesn't live in Wisconsin is technically a winner...

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Brew said:

When did a 17 year old get to become the executioner for someone’s past sins to some of you? The jump to defend him and dig up the dead guys pasts to justify it is strange.

There is no point where he should have put himself in the position he was in as a 17 year old. Bad shit happens and now 2 guys are dead and his life is over. 

I agree that the 17 year old should not have been there.  Period.  The whole scenario contains a multitude of actions/ decisions that leave me asking in the short term, "Where were the young man's parents, " and in the long term, "Where were the young man's parents?"

Nothing good was going to come out of that trip, and like so many have said in the thread, he went looking for trouble and found it.  In discussions over firearms, I have long supported strong legal action against those who commit crimes with guns.  If he's convicted, I hope he gets the max allowed under the law. If his parents were negligent with regard to the access to weapons, hammer them too.

 

As for the deceased, I don't care to disparage their character or criminal past.  However, one cannot dismiss those characteristics within the body of folks doing this destruction and criminal behavior under the deceptive precepts of being socially outraged.  Did they deserve to die?  I don't believe "deserve" has anything to do with it.   Similarly to the perp, they went looking for trouble and found it.  

Only put yourself in that position if it's worth it.  It's too late now to ask them what the looting and arson was worth, but we know the price they paid.

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by slorch

[Js1 85,136]

22 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Like a  few pointed out earlier, there's no winners in this thing.  

We’re looking at a big loser right now spouting debunked right wing talking points. Hint: it’s you 

[closetohumping 17,407]

15 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Well, everyone who doesn't live in Wisconsin is technically a winner...

That has nothing to do with the riots, I get it.

[closetohumping 17,407]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

We’re looking at a big loser right now spouting debunked right wing talking points. Hint: it’s you 

What shall I ever do?  

[wildcat09 29,267]

Sure are a whole lot of people criticizing some people for trying to stop a murderer from murdering more people. I wonder why.

[Doc Reeves 6,434]

34 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I saw someone try to hit him with a skateboard and it looked like Grosskreutz was packing right? 

Maybe he was assaulted but it seems the DA didnt think he was in mortal danger when he fired. Additionally, he had no legal right to have or operate that weapon

[Captainant 27,474]

31 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

 

I went back and pulled up actual entries from the Wisconsin database. The image that has been going around showing Rosenbaum appears to be manipulated. I also haven't found a single DOC # with a letter in it.  They are all numbers only.  So yeah, just like the "Molotov cocktail," it is fake. Amazing how the same people fall for the same shit over and over.

 

@MillerEP calling you out - you've now posted two factually incorrect, inflammatory, and thread derailing pieces of misinformation around this event. You really should not use social media as a primary news source, because you've derailed this thread twice and given @Johnny Sack an excuse to be his worst self. 

Johnny - what was your evidence for deciding that person was a pedophile? Was it exclusively the misinformation that Miller got from facebook?

 

[52-80 19,099]

23 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Well, everyone who doesn't live in Wisconsin is technically a winner...

Madison is pretty cool tho!

[Buzzrock 14,877]

This thread is a broad brush convention.

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

7 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

Yeah. That 15 miles was a real long trip for him.  Amazing he was able to go that far in this day and age.  
 

Does Wisconsin have a gun registry?

No, my point is it’s not like he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s not like he was helping defend his fathers business or some shit. This piece of shit went out of his way as a fucking 17 year old with a gun that wasn’t his, and what was his intention? Like honestly what do you think his intention was when he went to link up with this alt right militia? This wasn’t some “oh he got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time” bullshit. I’m not going to sit here and defend the people he shot that you have dug up information on (which is just strange by the way, that anyone would dig up this info in situations like this). I’m sure they’re pieces of shit. But this kid is every bit as much of a piece of shit as anyone else out there in the middle of those riots, and now his life is ruined because he’s a piece of shit.

[Foosters 17,734]

17 year old Trayvon Martin. Unarmed and chased by Zimmerman. Deserved to die

17 year old Kyle Rittenhouse. Armed with an assault rifle travels to another city looking for a fight. Kills unarmed people. He was in the right.

The people making the latter argument are the same folks who several years ago spent weeks making the former.

Can't put my finger on the incongruity. I know it can't be racism because they tell me they have Black friends.