Several shot during 3rd night of Kenosha riots

[Brothahorn 10087]

 

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Ya see little bill wasn’t a huge ass pussy like right wing hero Kyle and his supporters. He didn’t need a gun to kick English Bob’s ass. He just needed him to comply with the local ordinance and surrender his firearms to the proper authorities when he crossed into big whiskey.
 

English Bob done FAFO when he told young Andy he didn’t have a gun. That’s how you handle guys like that. Our pussy ass Kyle supporters hiding behind the 2A can’t handle that. They need a gun to be tough. 

Edited November 20, 2021 by JimmyJames

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

41 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

The world needs more Little Bills and less wannabe English Bobs like Kyle

Little Bill was a fascist fuck, we don’t need more of him either. 

[Satoshi 129]

 

[Enchubben 5512]

Better that he be found not guilty and a subset of the population being scared that people might defend themselves with deadly force, than he be found guilty and have the verdict questioned due to the jury shenanigans and perceived pressure from potential riots.  The criminal justice system worked, we should be happy.

[Incredulity 11684]

4 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Situation A - Rittenhouse stays home that night and watches "Seinfeld" reruns.  He's not threatened in any way.  It's just like a person who feels like drinking a six pack at home.  As long as he doesn't jump into a car and endangering others, there's no problem and no one dies.

Situation B - Americans are concerned about dying from a horrible disease while some people feel like spreading disinformation about that deadly disease and the efficacy of the vaccine (the thing everyone has to have to go to public school or visit another country).  I'm not sad when people who said Covid was a "hoax" or "the flu" die from Covid.

I suggest you stop using the word "irony" until you understand its meaning.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Better that he be found not guilty and a subset of the population being scared that people might defend themselves with deadly force, than he be found guilty and have the verdict questioned due to the jury shenanigans and perceived pressure from potential riots.  The criminal justice system worked, we should be happy.

What would be even better would be he be found not guilty and a subset of the population not turning this turd into some sort of hero and sticking him on Fox News and acting like they just won the super bowl. 

[Hagbard Celine 10938]

7 hours ago, immortal13 said:

Come on JJ you can't be this stupid. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't choose his attackers, they chose him.

The dead lived in the city where they were killed.

The killer did not live in the city where he killed the victims.

The killer traveled to the city where he killed the victims.

Please don't come back with some false equivalency to try to upend or disrupt these incontrovertible facts which can not be downed.

Everyone had agency here.

But only 1 dude had an AR.

[Hagbard Celine 10938]

5 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

I’m sure you do think it should after all the embarrassing shit you and all the other leftist dumbfucks posted in it 

fearless leader in the house

Edited November 21, 2021 by blacklab
user taking a day off for trolling/no content

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

 

Move on. Seriously - there has to be some new red meat to outraged about.

Edited November 20, 2021 by Harrison Bergeron

[Brothahorn 10087]

20 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

The dead lived in the city where they were killed.

The killer did not live in the city where he killed the victims.

The killer traveled to the city where he killed the victims.

Please don't come back with some false equivalency to try to upend or disrupt these incontrovertible facts which can not be downed.

Everyone had agency here.

But only 1 dude had an AR.

And one dude had a pistol, which he testified that he pointed at the shooter before he was shot.

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by Brothahorn

[Incredulity 11684]

3 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

And one dude had a pistol, which he testified that he pointed at the shooter before he was shot.

 

Doesn’t matter, have fe fe’s.

[Enchubben 5512]

40 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

What would be even better would be he be found not guilty and a subset of the population not turning this turd into some sort of hero and sticking him on Fox News and acting like they just won the super bowl. 

Agreed. Or people shitting their pants and acting like we’re about to have teenagers flooding the streets with rocket launchers aimed at people they don’t like. 

[Brothahorn 10087]

KR is not a hero! And I should be disappointed in the folks who are trying to make him one. But, I know how they are. I should be equally disappointed in the folks who keep trying to whitewash his shootees and don't want to accept the facts. But I know how they are as well. 

It's a sad commentary on our society all the way around.

 

[Satoshi 129]

A very CR post

 

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

13 minutes ago, Satoshi said:

A very CR post

 

Unless you're a Muslim in China. #nojusticeforyou

[staboner 4988]

ya'll motherfuckers need to get off the internet and try having some real relationships with real people

[staboner 4988]

both of your sides that is.

ya'll homies be cool now

Edited November 21, 2021 by staboner

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

57 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

The dead lived in the city where they were killed.

The killer did not live in the city where he killed the victims.

I realize this is CR, but ... Rittenhouse's family lived in Kenosha, so it's not like he didn't have any connection to the are. And while not dead, the third guy - and myriad other rioters - came from out of town.

[atomheartbevo 89850]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

What would be even better would be he be found not guilty and a subset of the population not turning this turd into some sort of hero and sticking him on Fox News and acting like they just won the super bowl. 

Don't forget Fox News briefly trying to push the narrative that America was going to break out into massive unrest across the nation.  After that failed to pan out, their top three stories on FoxNews.com are:

1. The gunshot at the Atlanta airport
2. Hunter Biden and China (I shit you not)
3. Woke universities trying to cancel Thanksgiving.

It's like they are sad that most Americans give no shit either way.

[StruggleBus 3922]

53 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Don't forget Fox News briefly trying to push the narrative that America was going to break out into massive unrest across the nation.  After that failed to pan out, their top three stories on FoxNews.com are:

1. The gunshot at the Atlanta airport
2. Hunter Biden and China (I shit you not)
3. Woke universities trying to cancel Thanksgiving.

It's like they are sad that most Americans give no shit either way.

Sounds like you give a shit 

[Biff Tannen 45750]

9 hours ago, immortal13 said:

10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Come on JJ you can't be this stupid. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't choose his attackers, they chose him. 

He didn’t choose the skux life, the skux life chose him. 
 

That’s a fun reference to a good movie that you should watch. It’s great.

[fattyflattie 4638]

2 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

The dead lived in the city where they were killed.

The killer did not live in the city where he killed the victims.

 

The one armed man traveled twice the distance KR did, fwiw. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

I realize this is CR, but ... Rittenhouse's family lived in Kenosha, so it's not like he didn't have any connection to the are. And while not dead, the third guy - and myriad other rioters - came from out of town.

It was not emphasized enough that there was a distinction made (at least in one local news interview I watched long before the trial was to begin) between the local protestors (regarding Jacob Blake) and the people causing destruction/vandalism. Many of the locals went home at curfew time. One of the daytime protestors they interviewed was a local activist and that was brought up during the interview. Lumping people  protesting into the same category as people burning and looting and then making the folks who left responsible for the actions of those who stayed creates an image of any protest as a riotous mob versus a civil right to freely assemble.

 

[Incredulity 11684]

You’re  probably not aware of it, but you’re making an argument for “militia” to protect their property.

[Satoshi 129]

😂 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

If Floyd was able to break free of Chauvin before he was killed, after telling Chauvin he couldn't breathe, would he have been legally justified to kill Chauvin in self defense?

Edited November 21, 2021 by blacklab
user taking time off for being off topic

[mchookem 16415]

28 minutes ago, Satoshi said:

😂

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

15 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

You’re  probably not aware of it, but you’re making an argument for “militia” to protect their property.

I don't want to stray further from the topic, but a discussion regarding these "militias" likely needs to be had. For example, private companies can hire security firms to protect their property and although security officers do not have the same powers that police officers do, the militias are not the same thing, nor are they viewed the same--not by others, nor even by themselves.  I read a very interesting article (Texas Law Review I think it was) on 'carry' with respect to weapons and how various cases in the news create more questions than answers. Some gun owners who carry keep their weapon holstered but once the weapon is out, how others view the carrier changes.

No one talks much about how easy it can be for a loosely organized "militia" to become more organized, focused, and cross a line into essentially criminal activity much like a gang or mafia enforcers. That is the domestic terrorism that gets scoffed at by some, but citizens belonging to a militia plotted an attempt to kidnap and execute a state governor. All militias are not 'gangs,' but some are operating that way. DOJ definition:

Quote

Gangs are associations of three or more individuals who adopt a group identity in order to create an atmosphere of fear or intimidation.  Gangs are typically organized upon racial, ethnic, or political lines and employ common names, slogans, aliases, symbols, tattoos, style of clothing, hairstyles, hand signs or graffiti.

That definition goes on, so you can see how they differ from a law abiding group of citizens that also name themselves as a militia.

Quote

The association's primary purpose is to engage in criminal activity and the use of violence or intimidation to further its criminal objectives and enhance or preserve the association's power, reputation, or economic resources.  Gangs are also organized to provide common defense of its members and interests from rival criminal organizations or to exercise control over a particular location or region.

 

 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Depends on the frame by frame analysis of the fraction of seconds prior to trigger being pulled.

So a conditional yes.

[Enchubben 5512]

34 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

If Floyd was able to break free of Chauvin before he was killed, after telling Chauvin he couldn't breathe, would he have been legally justified to kill Chauvin in self defense?

Depends on if he crossed state lines or not.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

Just now, Enchubben said:

Depends on if he crossed state lines or not.

So another conditional yes, sometimes it is legally justified to kill cops. 

[Incredulity 11684]

4 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

So a conditional yes.

Sure, depends on the facts.  You know, the rule of law.

[TexArcher 38081]

10 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Sure, depends on the facts.  You know, the rule of law.

Lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-yous.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Sure, depends on the facts.  You know, the rule of law.

You already know the facts of how George Floyd was killed.  I'm marking you down as a "yes, it would have been legally justified for Floyd to have used lethal force against a police officer" being he was indisputably threatened with lethal force. 

[wildcat09 29436]

47 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

If Floyd was able to break free of Chauvin before he was killed, after telling Chauvin he couldn't breathe, would he have been legally justified to kill Chauvin in self defense?

Legally justified or not if he did the other cops would’ve put 100 bullets in him. Because that’s America. White conservatives get rights, everyone else gets a bullet if they step out of line.

[Incredulity 11684]

3 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

You already know the facts of how George Floyd was killed.  I'm marking you down as a "yes, it would have been legally justified for Floyd to have used lethal force against a police officer" being he was indisputably threatened with lethal force. 

Depends on the facts.(ignoring any discrepancies between MN and WI self defense law. And any specific law enforcement related statutes)

As per Rittenhouse prosecutors, did he have a clear path to flee?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Depends on the facts

...which were all presented in a trial that concluded with Chauvin going to prison. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

15 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Legally justified or not if he did the other cops would’ve put 100 bullets in him. Because that’s America. White conservatives get rights, everyone else gets a bullet if they step out of line.

Almost without a doubt would have been killed. He was killed anyway. Would have been killed in that scenario too. 

[Incredulity 11684]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

...which were all presented in a trial that concluded with Chauvin going to prison. 

Which isn’t the hypothetical you proposed.  Not sure what you think you have proven.

 

[fattyflattie 4638]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

Because that’s America. White conservatives get rights, everyone else gets a bullet if they step out of line.

This is quite literally one of the dumbest things I’ve seen posted in some time. And the last 10 pages of this thread have been pretty fucking dumb, so congrats.  

[washparkhorn 9939]

1 hour ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I don't want to stray further from the topic, but a discussion regarding these "militias" likely needs to be had. For example, private companies can hire security firms to protect their property and although security officers do not have the same powers that police officers do, the militias are not the same thing, nor are they viewed the same--not by others, nor even by themselves.  I read a very interesting article (Texas Law Review I think it was) on 'carry' with respect to weapons and how various cases in the news create more questions than answers. Some gun owners who carry keep their weapon holstered but once the weapon is out, how others view the carrier changes.

No one talks much about how easy it can be for a loosely organized "militia" to become more organized, focused, and cross a line into essentially criminal activity much like a gang or mafia enforcers. That is the domestic terrorism that gets scoffed at by some, but citizens belonging to a militia plotted an attempt to kidnap and execute a state governor. All militias are not 'gangs,' but some are.

Best post in this  divisive  thread. 

Edited November 21, 2021 by washparkhorn
Damn good writing, Whiggins.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13588]

9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Which isn’t the hypothetical you proposed.  Not sure what you think you have proven.

 

Floyd was indisputably threatened with and killed with lethal force. That's not hypothetical. That's the very reason the Rittenhouse defense used to justify his use of lethal force. 

[workswithseed 2122]

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

This is quite literally one of the dumbest things I’ve seen posted in some time. And the last 10 pages of this thread have been pretty fucking dumb, so congrats.  

Don't make a loop for a a garage closer, they'll have fed at your house.

[JimmyJames 12271]

30 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

This is quite literally one of the dumbest things I’ve seen posted in some time. And the last 10 pages of this thread have been pretty fucking dumb, so congrats.  

If you can’t see the double standard that is applied to whites versus blacks in this country with respect to criminal justice you cannot be helped until you finally wake up to that absolute fact. It’s ok I used to think like you do 

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

 

As per Rittenhouse prosecutors, did he have a clear path to flee?

Yes which he clearly showed on video after he shot the first dude. Then he calls his friend to let him know he shot someone. Then after awhile he takes off with his assault rifle in ready position looking exactly like an active shooter. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

Sure, depends on the facts.  You know, the rule of law.

A significant fact being the race of the victim and the race of the perp.

Such is the rule of law. 

[fattyflattie 4638]

12 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

If you can’t see the double standard that is applied to whites versus blacks in this country with respect to criminal justice you cannot be helped until you finally wake up to that absolute fact. It’s ok I used to think like you do 

Of course we have some equality issues. That wasn’t what was posted, however. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Of course we have some equality issues. That wasn’t what was posted, however. 

Well maybe not exactly. But we all get the gist of it. 

[workswithseed 2122]

Fact check the fact checkers.