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so, yeah, this is the problem writ large. unarmed black dude, may be a threat, shot several times in the back. armed white dude, with an assault rifle present and visible, who just shot some people, w

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2 minutes ago, NaTeWHO said:

Seems like you haven't gotten anything straight. I'm sure you got your information from some blue check marks who are definitely not propagandists.

I didn't know the kid was white nationalist or, as the post above yours says, a misogynistic white supremacist. I'm sure there is plenty of evidence for this and I'd like to see it so that I can join in condemning this NAZI.

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Murders? I've seen video of this kid being chased and a flaming projectile thrown at him. Continuing to run and only shooting once he was caught and as a last resort. Looks like a molotov cocktail to me and if the glass broke, he could have been burned alive.

Then he was attacked by a guy with a skateboard and a guy with a gun and shot in self defense both times.

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Then you say "cause local police were celebrating a white kid murdering Black people" Show me where this guy shot anyone black. Don't worry, I'll wait... You can't. They were all white. This is so blatantly false, it's insane and you got 4 lemmings to buy into it. Sad.

 

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2 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

So basically, there is conflicting information being "pushed" on Twitter to back everyone's personal bias. 

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

The cops wouldn't have already made an arrest if they weren't pretty sure which of these conflicting accounts was accurate.

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10 minutes ago, Helobious said:

That kid reached down and adjusted his rifle a few times as he was walking towards the cops. He’s lucky they didn’t light his ass up.

No luck needed for white kids.

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8 minutes ago, Juicy said:

Again, you know why he was being chased down right? Because he just shot and killed someone. 


Jesus Christ man you talk about propaganda and are quoting a Alt right twitter account.

I'm sure everything you don't agree with is Alt right. I see a video where he shoots the first guy. Then the pictures where he shoots the other two. Why was he being chased in the first video? Who did he shoot before that?

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1 minute ago, NaTeWHO said:

I'm sure everything you don't agree with is Alt right. I see a video where he shoots the first guy. Then the pictures where he shoots the other two. Why was he being chased in the first video? Who did he shoot before that?

Nope just the transition to greatness trump 2020 twitter account

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here is the video where he starts to run....... while on the phone saying I shot somebody, (that somebody being the dude talking shit at the gas station) then he starts to run (you can hear people saying "get that little prick") and gets chased down. (you can see the skateboard guy that you claim viciously attacked the poor shooter out of nowhere standing around in this video as well)

 

and here is the guy he shot. 

 

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45 minutes ago, StruggleBus said:

I'm not a lawyer, but I seriously can't imagine 1st degree murder charges sticking against a kid that shot people who were actively attacking him. 

If that kid was black, he'd already be dead so we wouldn't need this debate. 

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4 minutes ago, Juicy said:

here is the video where he starts to run....... while on the phone saying I shot somebody, (that somebody being the dude talking shit at the gas station) then he starts to run and gets chased down. 

 

and here is the guy he shot. 

 

Claims alt right propaganda and then posts "NewYorkSocialist." Holy shit. Hahaha.

What happened before he was on the phone and shot someone?

He was running and being chased.

Here's a video queued up to the first shooting. I concede, after finding this video, that it wasn't a molotov cocktail and just some trash of some kind. He's clearly being chased by the guy who catches up to him and gets shot. He then gets on the phone and calls the police to report that he shot someone and to send help. He then runs and is chased and caught by the other two who were shot.

He didn't just shoot someone willy-nilly and then get chased and shoot the other two.

 

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4 minutes ago, NaTeWHO said:

Claims alt right propaganda and then posts "NewYorkSocialist." Holy shit. Hahaha.

What happened before he was on the phone and shot someone?

He didn't just shoot someone willy-nilly and then get chased and shoot the other two.

 

Glad the irony wasn't lost there. 

Again here is what happened before he was on the phone. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

so, yeah, this is the problem writ large. unarmed black dude, may be a threat, shot several times in the back. armed white dude, with an assault rifle present and visible, who just shot some people, whatever, go on about your business.

and some of yall still struggle with why blm is a thing

This.  

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3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

He committed multiple felonies to possess a rifle before the age of 18, to cross state lines with it, and to shoot someone with it.

Agreed. That isn't the argument. Juicy claimed he wasn't being chased until after he shot and killed someone. That is not true.

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With the kid being 17, it is pretty easy to see that he put himself in a situation where he got scared and made terrible decisions. 

That being said, previously to being scared or whatever he also made terrible decisions to get into that position. Where were his parents?

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Agreed. That isn't the argument. Juicy claimed he wasn't being chased until after he shot and killed someone. That is not true.

so he was being chased? And then mid chase he decided to stop and make a phone call? Did he call time out? Did the chasers just let him make a phone call and then he called time in and started running again? 

He killed one guy BEFORE being chased, you can see him standing over the dude while he is on the phone. Then he gets chased, trips over a plastic bag (or mototov cocktail) and when he realizes he is going to get pummeled he opens fire again.  

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so he was being chased? And then mid chase he decided to stop and make a phone call? Did he call time out? Did the chasers just let him make a phone call and then he called time in and started running again? 

He killed one guy BEFORE being chased, you can see him standing over the dude while he is on the phone. Then he gets chased, trips over a plastic bag (or mototov cocktail) and when he realizes he is going to get pummeled he opens fire again.  

Dude. Watch the video I posted. He is chased. Shoots the guy. Gets on his phone to call someone. Runs away again.

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14 minutes ago, NaTeWHO said:

Claims alt right propaganda and then posts "NewYorkSocialist." Holy shit. Hahaha.

What happened before he was on the phone and shot someone?

He was running and being chased.

Here's a video queued up to the first shooting. I concede, after finding this video, that it wasn't a molotov cocktail and just some trash of some kind. He's clearly being chased by the guy who catches up to him and gets shot. He then gets on the phone and calls the police to report that he shot someone and to send help. He then runs and is chased and caught by the other two who were shot.

He didn't just shoot someone willy-nilly and then get chased and shoot the other two.

 

In this video it shows an alternate angle of the altercation at the gas station It does not show him running until after he kills the first guy. The kid is not running from anyone before the first shooting. 

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I thought the gas station was the first shooting (where he is seen running from the shirtless dude, guy throws paper trash at him, then turning and blasting him in the head on the other side of the car/van whatever from the video angle) Then he gets on the phone saying he shot someone and runs.

The second two were after he runs away from it? (skateboarder and other guy)?

 

Was there a previous shooting?

Also how many people fired weapons? That was a lot of rounds if it was all this dude. 

 

This guy is a fuckwad coward pussy POS and this whole situation is just so fucking sad. And rage inducing. 

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In this video it shows an alternate angle of the altercation at the gas station It does not show him running until after he kills the first guy. The kid is not running from anyone before the first shooting. 

What? At 3:59:00 the kid with gun is seen running into view. The guy chasing him throws trash and then catches him. This is when the first shooting happens. Then the kid uses his phone at 3:59:32 and runs away. This is when the other two chase him down and the second shooting happens.

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3 minutes ago, NaTeWHO said:

Dude. Watch the video I posted. He is chased. Shoots the guy. Gets on his phone to call someone. Runs away again.

Dude, are you kidding, comparing him to running from an angry mob, vs him talking shit and then running away from a dude who was 4 feet 7 inches tall and shooting him is a big difference. 

 

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1 hour ago, VABuckeye said:

No, we don't.  We do understand why it is a thing.  What we don't understand is some of the tactics being used which do nothing to further the cause.

How can you claim to not "understand" when it's been explained to you ad nauseum?

The rioting and looting are not "tactics" to achieve equality. They aren't planned strategies meant to achieve a political end. They are expressions of rage and fury with only loose connections to ideology and often overtly hostile to ANY organizing principle. They are pissed off, don't feel heard, so they are breaking shit.

So if you look at someone smashing a car window in a used car lot and SINCERELY asking yourself, "Hmmm I wonder whose vote he is trying to influence" then the actual idiot is you. But it's not sincere, it's concern-trolling. You know that man is not trying to achieve a political end.

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Dude, are you kidding, comparing him to running from an angry mob, vs him talking shit and then running away from a dude who was 4 feet 7 inches tall and shooting him is a big difference. 

 

So he was being chased? Damn that was way harder than it should have been.

Who said he was running from an angry mob? I didn't.

You said he wasn't being chased before the first shooting. You now admit he was, but just by a 4 foot 7 inch guy.

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1 hour ago, Blotto said:

the people that claim to not understand why BLM is a thing, in fact do understand why it is a thing. They just prefer things the way they are, but realize its socially frowned upon to verbalize their desire to keep the staus quo. So instead they jack themselves off with "ALL lives matter" and feel good about  it.  

If BLM really cared about black lives, they wouldn’t be focusing on the 5-10 unjustified police shootings of black males every year.  They don’t give a fuck.  They are a political organization that loves every time there is a George Floyd.  They are the scum bag attorneys in A Time to Kill who wanted Samuel L Jackson to get the death penalty for martyrs.  
 

If they really cared about the 5-10 annual unjust shootings or killings like George Floyd, their mission would be educating people not to resist arrest and take a you can beat the rap but not the ride.  They don’t care. They are a political organization.  Period.  
 

And they lie.  Michael Brown wasn’t a bad shoot.  Neither was this dickhead.  Tamir Rice and Floyd were murdered.  

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Just now, NaTeWHO said:

So he was being chased? Damn that was way harder than it should have been.

Who said he was running from an angry mob? I didn't.

You said he wasn't being chased before the first shooting. You now admit he was, but just by a 4 foot 7 inch guy.

You said he was being chased and dodging from flaming projectiles. Shot in self defense. That is not the case at all. 

One unarmed man chasing someone does not constitute deadly force. The kid could not have feared for his life. 

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1 hour ago, Buzzrock said:

 


I think he shot and killed someone who wasn’t attacking him, then shot and killed one and wounded another who attacked him when he ran away.

He’s fucked. Good.

 

You should have stopped at "I think".

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2 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

If BLM really cared about black lives, they wouldn’t be focusing on the 5-10 unjustified police shootings of black males every year.  They don’t give a fuck.  They are a political organization that loves every time there is a George Floyd.  They are the scum bag attorneys in A Time to Kill who wanted Samuel L Jackson to get the death penalty for martyrs.  
 

If they really cared about the 5-10 annual unjust shootings or killings like George Floyd, their mission would be educating people not to resist arrest and take a you can beat the rap but not the ride.  They don’t care. They are a political organization.  Period.  
 

And they lie.  Michael Brown wasn’t a bad shoot.  Neither was this dickhead.  Tamir Rice and Floyd were murdered.  

Wait, the solution isn't to fix police, it is to fix the populace so it complies with an unjust system? Seriously? What fucking nonsense. 

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1 hour ago, NaTeWHO said:

 

Murders? I've seen video of this kid being chased and a flaming projectile thrown at him. Continuing to run and only shooting once he was caught and as a last resort. Looks like a molotov cocktail to me and if the glass broke, he could have been burned alive.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is your quote? He was not caught when he shot the first guy, he had a 5 step lead turned and fired, nor was he being chased by anyone throwing molotov cocktails or flaming projectiles. 

I now know what they mean about arguing on the internet. 

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Perfect example of why some people shouldn’t be armed. They get upset or in a tough situation and they want use their weapon to get out of it. Even if you’re about to catch a beating, it doesn’t give you the right to light up everyone in the immediate area. You can do it but you should hopefully learn what prison is like soon.

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1 minute ago, Juicy said:

You said he was being chased and dodging from flaming projectiles. Shot in self defense. That is not the case at all. 

One unarmed man chasing someone does not constitute deadly force. The kid could not have feared for his life. 

At all? I can see it mostly being the case and I conceded it was only trash.

Two of the three are easily self defense. The first where the guy chased him down before catching the kid and being shot, I'm not so sure. Seems pretty pussy to me, but that doesn't matter. Prove the kid couldn't have feared for his life. Would that guy be dead if he hadn't chased him down?

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8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Wait, the solution isn't to fix police, it is to fix the populace so it complies with an unjust system? Seriously? What fucking nonsense. 

There was nothing unjust going on until that dickhead fought cops and disobeyed their lawful orders while trying to reach into his vehicle.  He was lucky he only got 7 in the back instead of one in his head.  He created the dangerous situation.  Same thing as that fucktard in Atlanta who shot a taser at the cops

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