2020-21 Winter weather; bring it on

[RPM 26,682]

JFC it is brutal outside in DFW. 26° and 20mph wind. Had a little freezing rain about an hour ago. 

[washparkhorn 9,974]

• coolent = antifreeze + water (?)
• And some of you with thoughtful builders may already have frost/freeze proof sillcocks/hosebibs/outdoor faucets. 
  • freezeable sillcocks/hose bibs/outdoor faucets (notice the short shaft):

• Frost-proof/Freeze-proof sillcocks/hose bibs/outdoor faucets (notice the straight-long shaft (no bend)):

• (vacuum break on the top of second freeze proof sillcock)
• They are cheap (as low as $25) and builders should be using them.
• One last thing - if ice forms on ponds, don't let the kids near them.  It is like a moth to the flame. 

Good luck out there. Check in on those who are homebound and homeless.

And enjoy what winter feels like to most of the country. The best thing about deep freezes is they kill a lot of mosquitos. Not all of them unfortunately. 

 

Edited February 11, 2021 by washparkhorn

[Telegraph_it 3,386]

I’ll be dipped. I think my builder used those. I’m still covering the faucets though. 

[Message Board User 12,409]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I hated the months where it didn't get above freezing at all.  I hated the windchill that was -30 or worse.  

There are some positives.  I did think it was cool to go outside with wet hair and then snap off pieces of it.   Hockey could be fun.  Ice fishing was fun for a few hours, unless the older folks gave you a beer, then it was cool for a long time.

I loved the houses up there - we had a big ass basement that ran the length of the house.   Lot of people had big-ass basements, and and the ones on our block were stocked with all kinds of games and fridges and stuff - seemed like every weekend, the parents on the block would have all of the kids stay at one family's house, in the basement, with multiple TVs, a shitload of video games (Nintendo NES was still new), shitload of VHS rentals, and all of the pizza and soda that we could handle.  I guess the hosts were afraid parents would get to drinking and try to drive, because as we came in the door  our parents would throw their keys in a fish bowl by the door.  At some point all of the parents would leave, while we were all stuffed full of pizza and soda and our 100th game of Contra or whatever.  The next afternoon, our parents would come and get us.  Some kids claimed to have looked out the windows (normally they were blacked out/covered by these bubble things that kept the snow from being up against the window) and said the parents got so drunk they were going home with the wrong spouses, but whatever.  Like I said, alcoholism was rampant.

 

Soda?

What the fuck is soda?

[SimonBolivar 11,070]

The high will be 44 degrees below average on Monday. I'm cool with that as long as we get a day in August with a high in the 50s.

[Message Board User 12,409]

The roads look brutal in Dallas.

[jofus 2,269]

The roads look brutal in Dallas.

[Constant 6,937]

If you live in the city of Dallas, I suggest you stay home. Currently working 41 crashes on the freeway and holding another 10 in the queue. 

[Armybrat 41,454]

9 hours ago, phdhorn said:

Oh, one more thing... I was off... the official low evah! in Austin is -2°.  1949. Stick that in your DeSoto.
I don't think we'll break it.  But it's not out of the realm...

Back more Thurs if necessary.  But I think we're set up now for a pretty good guess as to how the next week will go.

We were stationed at Camp (Fort) Hood then. Our quarters were the old uninsulated barracks buildings built so hastily & shoddIly during WW2 that we could see outside through the cracks in the siding. It was butt-ass cold, and even worse outside.

[Constant 6,937]

Double 

Edited February 11, 2021 by Constant

[LonghornJones 838]

Thundersleet west of Austin. I think an ice storm between Austin Llano is gonna have some really big totals.

[phdhorn 6,225]

Not much of an update today except:

The rain today might be a little heavier than eariler predicted.  Most temp models have us going > freezing by 10 a.m. or so (even if barely), so icy conditions aren't expected to be widespread.  However, yeah, between now and say 2 or 3 p.m. ice almost certainly will form around ATX roads.  Drive less if you can.  The freezing precip line is very close to us, probably no more than 30 miles W/NW of us.  Any travel today north past WillieCo and west past Drip or Blanco is going to be risky.  Rain lets off by dinner time, then dry through Friday.

Temps sink each night now through Wed. a.m., each night 2-4 degrees less.  All nights beginning tonight will be freezing, although not a long/hard freeze until maybe Sat. night.  Days will continue just above freezing for us (might actually get a tiny bit warmer daytime on Fri/Sat).  Otherwise all that crap I wrote above still stands.

2 more days until Coldmageddon.

Edited February 11, 2021 by phdhorn

[phdhorn 6,225]

19 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

We were stationed at Camp (Fort) Hood then. Our quarters were the old uninsulated barracks buildings built so hastily & shoddIly during WW2 that we could see outside through the cracks in the siding. It was butt-ass cold, and even worse outside.

I was outside in -87° wind chill for several hours in Buffalo, NY for a buncha hours.  It was cold.

[RPM 26,682]

1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

Soda?

What the fuck is soda?

It's what yankees call cokes.

[Pato del Muerto 53,607]

Sitting at -17 right now with a wind chill of -36. Several inches of new snow. As mentioned a day or two ago, will be going out to get vaccinated in a couple of hours.   I can report that it’s 70 in the house though. 

[TwiceHorn 32,113]

9 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 our parents would throw their keys in a fish bowl by the door.

Ummm.

[TwiceHorn 32,113]

1 hour ago, Message Board User said:

The roads look brutal in Dallas.

Damn.  Google Maps is red as shit.  It's dry as a bone here in 225.  Had 5 minutes of sleety stuff that you could hear rather than see.

Knock on wood, the precipitation doesn't become a big issue.

[Guest]

Yeah, we checkin in at 14 up here in the panhandle, but roads are dry.  Hopefully no precip till Sunday...

Y’all be safe on them skatin rink roads.

[miguelito 11,519]

Ice ice baby in Boerne. Just on my windshield, roads were ok.

For now.

[Al_4_ISU 12,668]

18 minutes ago, RPM said:

It's what yankees call cokes.

I've never understood what exactly constitutes "yankee", but you'd get a strange look for using the word "soda" where I'm from.  And you'd also get a strange look for calling anything other than Coke "coke".

[RPM 26,682]

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never understood what exactly constitutes "yankee", but you'd get a strange look for using the word "soda" where I'm from.  And you'd also get a strange look for calling anything other than Coke "coke".

North of the Red and East of the Sabine. It's pretty simple. There is also the California yankee. 

[utee94 16,091]

6 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never understood what exactly constitutes "yankee", but you'd get a strange look for using the word "soda" where I'm from.  And you'd also get a strange look for calling anything other than Coke "coke".

Basically if you call a carbonated soft drink beverage anything other than a "coke" then you're a yankee.

Pop.  Soda.  Sodapop.  All are yankee terms.

[Al_4_ISU 12,668]

4 minutes ago, RPM said:

North of the Red and East of the Sabine. It's pretty simple. There is also the California yankee. 

Lotta different stripes of yankee then.

[RPM 26,682]

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

Lotta different stripes of yankee then.

Absolutely

[Armybrat 41,454]

15 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Basically if you call a carbonated soft drink beverage anything other than a "coke" then you're a yankee.

Pop.  Soda.  Sodapop.  All are yankee terms.

Visiting my grandparents in Missourah we called it pop.

living at Fort Sam it was Coke.

[Armybrat 41,454]

14 minutes ago, RPM said:

Absolutely

Plus those west of the Rio Grande.

[RPM 26,682]

7 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Plus those west of the Rio Grande.

The Southwest proper has a neutral zone. Arizona & NM aren't complete assholes and Nevada is actually kinda cool to party with. It's like an extended West Texas.

Edited February 11, 2021 by RPM

[phdhorn 6,225]

Big wreck at 620/45 toll near Lakeline.  20+ cars. (Happened w/in last hour).

100+ car pileup, probably multiple deaths, 35 in Ft Worth. (Happened about 6 a.m.

Both involve flyovers.   Driving is not good in elevated areas.  Temps are < freezing pretty much mid-Travis and north/west.  Will stay that way until near lunch time.

 

[Lerka Lerka 1,097]

7 hours ago, Paper_jam said:

Back in the '80s my dad took me to the "Army hole" off Port O'Connor a couple times, during cold snaps. I wonder if that's still a thing.

 

Yes.  Also in the ICW and up the Victoria Barge Canal.  On freezing days, we’ve crushed the trout up the Victoria Barge Canal by one of the plants in their ship turn basin, drifting and slowly bouncing off the bottom or even vertical jigging. Not sure if you are still allowed to go all the way up there these days. 

[phdhorn 6,225]

Winter Storm Warning now in effect for Travis, Blanco (already in effect for most of the rest of areas).

Icing can be expected if temps don't get > freezing for awhile.  Biggest threat = freezing rain (rain which falls then freezes on the ground).  Don't drive if you can help it.  More precip moving into area.  Should get abpve freezing by lunch or after, but some areas won't.  Precip out by midnight.

Edited February 11, 2021 by phdhorn

[Deej 77,899]

Thundersleet at Inks Lake. 

[Homercles 10,206]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Sitting at -17 right now with a wind chill of -36. Several inches of new snow. As mentioned a day or two ago, will be going out to get vaccinated in a couple of hours.   I can report that it’s 70 in the house though. 

[Al_4_ISU 12,668]

21 minutes ago, RPM said:

The Southwest proper has a neutral zone. Arizona & NM aren't complete assholes and Nevada is actually kinda cool to party with. It's like an extended West Texas.

I should point out that your previous definition would make some Texans yankees.  I assume that was intentional.

[RPM 26,682]

4 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I should point out that your previous definition would make some Texans yankees.  I assume that was intentional.

Here's a visual aid.

[Homercles 10,206]

Can we please not turn this into a 6+ day weekend for my kiddos?  I obviously love them (4/7 yo) but the thought of RRISD closed for weather on Friday, then two days off for President’s Day, and possibly more shutdowns on Wednesday...with nowhere to go and nothing for them to do, while I’m supposed to be working...gives me anxiety.  Already have to plan for 3 more ‘asynchronous days for teachers to plan’ that I’m a little bitter about.

/rant

[Deej 77,899]

Put the little fuckers to work. Get some projects done. 

[utee94 16,091]

2 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Can we please not turn this into a 6+ day weekend for my kiddos?  I obviously love them (4/7 yo) but the thought of RRISD closed for weather on Friday, then two days off for President’s Day, and possibly more shutdowns on Wednesday...with nowhere to go and nothing for them to do, while I’m supposed to be working...gives me anxiety.  Already have to plan for 3 more ‘asynchronous days for teachers to plan’ that I’m a little bitter about.

/rant

Yes my friend, I have news for you... you're screwed.

Be sure to bolster your whiskey supply for the duration.

[Captainant 28,607]

Apparently there's an >100 car pileup on 35W going on that's now been categorized as a mass casualty event

fucking black ice man. Scary shit.

You surly Dallas-ites stay safe out there

[Guest Lobo]

So this rain that's about to start here in Austin.  It'll likely softly freeze on the ground tonight.  Will it be gone by tomorrow mid-morning?  Temps are gonna warm up that much (maybe 40), but then it's not gonna hard freeze very long overnight either.  I just want to know if we can get one "normal" day in on Friday before the 4-5 day shitshow starts on Saturday.  I gotta drive out to Lakeway.  Thanks.  

Almost done winterizing everything I can at home.  Except I need more bourbon and gotta get up in the attic to set the tankless water heater recirculating pump.  Maybe I should take some bourbon up there with me because it's already pretty damn cold up there.  Is it too early for bourbon?  

[closetohumping 17,831]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Apparently there's an >100 car pileup on 35W going on that's now been categorized as a mass casualty event

fucking black ice man. Scary shit.

You surly Dallas-ites stay safe out there

Insane man.  Texans aren't used to this shit and most cars being RWD doesn't help either.

[Armybrat 41,454]

35 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

Winter Storm Warning now in effect for Travis, Blanco (already in effect for most of the rest of areas).

Icing can be expected if temps don't get > freezing for awhile.  Biggest threat = freezing rain (rain which falls then freezes on the ground).  Don't drive if you can help it.  More precip moving into area.  Should get abpve freezing by lunch or after, but some areas won't.  Precip out by midnight.

It is 28 outside our kitchen window here in Brushy Creek - 78717. Off & on precipitation and just heard a loud clap of thunder.

we have curbside pickup at the HEB at 11am.

Wrapped our two outside hose bibs with washcloths, put the styrofoam covers on, then wrapped hand towels around those - held on with rubber bands.

we have at least 15” of insulation in the attic installed a a year ago, but I might run an electric space heater in the garage with the stairwell open  - just during the dat. It is currently 58 in the garage.

All devices are charged, including my compact jump start battery, and the Weber propane tank is full.

[Herbie Hancock 7,504]

Apparently there's an >100 car pileup on 35W going on that's now been categorized as a mass casualty event

fucking black ice man. Scary shit.
You surly Dallas-ites stay safe out there

MCI (mass casualty incident) just means that there are more problems/patients than there are resources to deal said problems. At one point the initial arriving battalion chief told dispatch to “send me every truck company available”. That’s almost 30 ladder trucks. Fuck this noise

[Knoxtnhorn 6,312]

Any advice on my rose bush?  It's at the back end of the yard, about 100 feet from the nearest outdoor plug.  I've covered it with a heavy-duty, plastic garbage can.  I don't think that's going to do much with these temps over time.  

[atomheartbevo 90,689]

Rain coming down pretty hard here in Central Austin.  Going to make for a lovely day.

[phdhorn 6,225]

I'm probably gonna have to re-do 2 of my outside bibs... the rain is soaking and no doubt will seep through and the rag will be wet.  That don't help much.

So I'll wait for the rain to go away and reset tomorrow (the bibs can easily survive a light overnight freeze).

This rain actually has been forecast for a few days, and we got a big dose of it right now in The Cave.  This is the 2nd of 4 fronts going by.  One more tomorrow (a minor one), then the big one that'll allow the polar air down overnight Sat. (the front, not the air - air will get here through the day on Sunday).

[atomheartbevo 90,689]

1 hour ago, phdhorn said:

Temps sink each night now through Wed. a.m., each night 2-4 degrees less.  All nights beginning tonight will be freezing, although not a long/hard freeze until maybe Sat. night.  Days will continue just above freezing for us (might actually get a tiny bit warmer daytime on Fri/Sat).  Otherwise all that crap I wrote above still stands.

Why is Dark Skies telling me it's going to be 9 degrees Monday morning, and 1 degree on Tuesday?  It's showing a good 72 hours of a hard freeze.

Is it just me or has Dark Skies gone to shit lately, and I think I have mentioned that before.

Weather Channel app is showing 14 degrees on Sunday and 11 on Monday.

If it was going to hit 9 degrees and 1 degree, I'd think plumbers were going to be even busier than we are predicting.  Shit, even 11 and 14 will make them plenty busy.

[Orange&White 5,573]

Just started pouring near 2222/360. 

 

The event at 620/45 is 26 vehicles with 5 patients so far.

[RPM 26,682]

I-35W @ 28th Street

Edited February 11, 2021 by RPM

[Homercles 10,206]

28 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Yes my friend, I have news for you... you're screwed.

Be sure to bolster your whiskey supply for the duration.

Yeah I am probably too bitchy about it.  Just we don’t have a formal work holiday until May but between holidays, spring break, staff days and asynchronous days there’s hardly any full school weeks until summer...so I have to plan around all these, kick in snow days and just means working nights to stay up at work.  
 

As noted in another thread I’m married to a counselor so interact with lots of teachers and hear a lot of bitching...so get resentful when I see all these days they don’t have to work and then have 2.5 months off for summer.  

[atomheartbevo 90,689]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I've never understood what exactly constitutes "yankee", but you'd get a strange look for using the word "soda" where I'm from.  And you'd also get a strange look for calling anything other than Coke "coke".

Even Pepsis are cokes down here.

"Soda" was not the weirdest terminology when I lived up north, and a bunch of them used "pop" as well, and the first time somebody asked if I wanted a pop, I was like "what the fuck are you doing asking me if I want that in front of other people?

I can actually spot the military areas of North Dakota on this map - I'm pretty sure that yellow area is near Minot.