Trump shits all over the troops again

[Nice Guy Eddie 13414]

Griffin actually only confirms the least painful of the accusations mainly related that Vietnam was for suckers and that Trump skipped that one French cemetery visit on purpose. The facts we know are that trump lied to get out of military service in the Vietnam era so of course he thinks those that went are suckers. Big surprise. And he didn’t want to go to that cemetery because he is always pissed at spending time with legitimate, democratically elected world leaders. Not to mention that we know he can’t allow his hair to get wet and an umbrella may not have been an option.

[JimmyJames 12271]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/515099-retired-general-torches-reported-trump-comments-on-military-youre-no

[JimmyJames 12271]

The trumpers are so worried about this story they are even getting Melanie involved to dispute what other people heard him say.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8699957/Melania-Trump-joins-fights-against-claims-Donald-Trump-called-WWI-Marine-heroes-losers.html
 

Apparently in trump world unless everyone on the planet heard you say something it didn’t happen. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

7 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Just fucking admit that you are voting for Trump. Nobody here thinks otherwise. Why do you constantly lie to everyone here about it?

I don’t think he’s going to vote for Trump. I don’t think he’s going to vote for Biden either, which I have expressed my disagreement with t on other threads. But I have never seen him post anything defending or supporting trump. 

From reading your and his posts over the years I think you are both good people, as are your fathers I’m sure

Y’all should be talking about each other’s moms though. Couple of dirty whores

[Bozo_Casanova 26284]

1 hour ago, burntorangebongos said:

Oof, this got me in the feels. "My war was 70 years ago and yesterday."

 

Did you watch the last 20 seconds of this video? It’s ... strange.  Especially the last 5 or so. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13546]

32 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Has Teh Donald ever called for the firing of a reporter before?

If he hasn't, well now he has.  https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-veterans-suckers-jennifer-griffin-1529849

Trumpers are back on the Cancel Culture Train!

[ConferenceRoom 6130]

5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Did you watch the last 20 seconds of this video? It’s ... strange.  Especially the last 5 or so. 

Are you talking about the misspelled Dignity? Or the smooth R&B? Or the overall Twin Peaks vibe? 

[Underdog 28457]

9 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

The sad thing is Fox News will probably take her off the air.

Getting the Shep treatment. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26284]

1 minute ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Are you talking about the misspelled Dignity? Or the smooth R&B? Or the overall Twin Peaks vibe? 

Mostly 1&3, but 2 isn’t exactly normal either. The total effect is very unsettling 

[Left Coast 863]

28 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Griffin actually only confirms the least painful of the accusations mainly related that Vietnam was for suckers and that Trump skipped that one French cemetery visit on purpose. The facts we know are that trump lied to get out of military service in the Vietnam era so of course he thinks those that went are suckers. Big surprise. And he didn’t want to go to that cemetery because he is always pissed at spending time with legitimate, democratically elected world leaders. Not to mention that we know he can’t allow his hair to get wet and an umbrella may not have been an option.

Probably not...

 

[mchookem 16222]

8 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

I wish this board had some trumpers with the balls to come support their boy 

i really think they know he's indefensible, thus their support is indefensible.

if they posted in here, they'd be forced to face this. nobody wants to have their cognitive dissonance pointed out to them. that is psychologically uncomfortable. 

so. they make 'no politics!' posts in DT and hide behind the moderators.

understandable, if chickenshit.

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by mchookem

[TexArcher 37519]

8 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

You think there are actual Trumpkins here?  Not people who lean rights, or are having a hard time voting for a D, but actual Trumpkins.  People who will say, “yeah fuck those stumpy soldiers, losers. Shouldn’t have been over there not making money, idiots”.    No man. There isn’t anyone over here like that.  There are a few who probably ride the line, but I can’t think of any. 

Yes, there are.  As in real life, they don't chime in.  They won't answer a polling phone call and they don't talk about it at work or on their favorite sports message board.  But yeah, they're around.

And there are many more who will vote for him because they want their tax cut, or they want abortion to be illegal, or they're simply always gonna vote for the R no matter who it is because that's what they and their family do, it's who they are.  They'll find a reason to excuse away all of the other stuff and even though they find this guy repulsive, they will bite their tongues and vote for him, because they get at least one thing that's important to them, but more importantly they just don't know how to do anything else.

And I'm afraid there are still an awful lot of these people out there.  A silent horde.

So the rest of us have to show up in record numbers just to be certain.  The polling margin may not be as big as it looks.

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by TexArcher

[Chooky 13302]

The entirety of Trump's schedule next week will be filled with Trump showing that he's the troopiest troop lover who ever loved the the troops. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

10 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

and even though they find this guy repulsive, they will bite their tongues and vote for him, because they don't know how to do anything else. 

Exactly. That is not a Trumpkin. A Trumpkin actually worships him, thinks he does no wrong. Excuses him.    What you described is someone who looks at the other guy who appears to have severe brain atrophy, and says, fuck that.   I know a fucking ton of people who are voting R because they want to keep their O&G jobs, and about 3-4 who really actually like Trump.  Like think he does no wrong type shit.  I know a few have moved to D because Trumps tax cuts actually screwed them. Anecdotal .02. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

Obama signs the Veteran's Choice Act in 2014. Trump then expands the program and takes credit for the whole shebang.

Obama in Baghdad

Obama in Afghanistan

Obama meets with troops in Georgia as he targets diploma mills that market to US soldiers. "They don't care about you, they care about your cash."

The President who took steps to encourage legislation to assist current and former military despite opposition and delays from Republican party members and Mr. "I don't even take the SATs myself" grabs all the credit. The truth is so upside down and chaos reigns. I hate this new world order. VOTE!

[JimmyJames 12271]

There are trolls on this board who would never admit to voting for trump because it would destroy their credibility and their ability to distract. But they will lie about it and vote for trump in 2020 just like they did in 2016. There is a silent trump vote on this board but that does not mean the polls are wrong. That’s just trump supporter bullshit. 

[Chooky 13302]

This issue will corner trump into having to do an event where he's surrounded by a bunch of icky gross amputees. "These suckers with their disgusting nubs. Let's go! Roll it and get me outta here!"

[Underdog 28457]

38 minutes ago, Left Coast said:

Probably not...

 

"You sumbitches couldn't close an umbrella"

[burntorangebongos 10681]

31 minutes ago, Chooky said:

The entirety of Trump's schedule next week will be filled with Trump showing that he's the troopiest troop lover who ever loved the the troops. 

haha. He's gonna have to go to a war zone to prove that. Chicken shit motherfucker painted hisself into a corner. 

[burntorangebongos 10681]

50 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Mostly 1&3, but 2 isn’t exactly normal either. The total effect is very unsettling 

I was dealing with allergy issues to notice the misspelling and cut it off a bit early, to be honest. It still hits home for me because my dad would have been his age and would get choked up talking about the war sometimes, especially when thinking about some of his buddies that didn't make it home. You know, the losers. Whoever made it is probably not a professional or is not very good at their job. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

46 minutes ago, Chooky said:

The entirety of Trump's schedule next week will be filled with Trump showing that he's the troopiest troop lover who ever loved the the troops. 

Probably. But hopefully then something else will drop. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

There are trolls on this board who would never admit to voting for trump because it would destroy their credibility and their ability to distract. But they will lie about it and vote for trump in 2020 just like they did in 2016. There is a silent trump vote on this board but that does not mean the polls are wrong. That’s just trump supporter bullshit. 

I have still never once been polled and I have voted almost every time I have had the opportunity since 1994.

I still think polls have a built in bias. It used to require a landline. Now it requires you to pick up a cell phone call from an unknown caller, I guess. I do get 100s of annoying texts from candidates. I figure that would get me on a polling list at some point.

[FondrenRoad 4378]

Probably. But hopefully then something else will drop. 

Something else will drop. Maybe 15 or 20 something elses even. Y'all are talking about Trump over a week's time.

Trump figured out that if you bury bad press under more bad press eventually none of it matters. It is simple math really. Add one negative story to another and you still have a negative. Multiply negative stories and you get a positive.

[Red Five 40665]

5 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

Something else will drop. Maybe 15 or 20 something elses even. Y'all are talking about Trump over a week's time.

Trump figured out that if you bury bad press under more bad press eventually none of it matters. It is simple math really. Add one negative story to another and you still have a negative. Multiply negative stories and you get a positive.

Remember a million negative stories ago when he suggested drinking bleach and called Joe Scarborough a murderer? 

[bad_teammate 13132]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

There are trolls on this board who would never admit to voting for trump because it would destroy their credibility and their ability to distract. But they will lie about it and vote for trump in 2020 just like they did in 2016. There is a silent trump vote on this board but that does not mean the polls are wrong. That’s just trump supporter bullshit. 

Learn a new song.

[Horn Dog 9674]

21 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Trump is a piece of shit. But if we want to talk about really caring for the men and women who serve our country, a few things that we should do:

1. Invest in making the VA one of the best health care systems in the world, in particular by focusing on the mental health care needs of our soldiers returning home.

2. Scale down our international military deployment substantially, ending our decades old engagement in Afghanistan in particular. 

3. As we scale down our military forces, both in terms of head count and financial investment, retrain our soldiers as necessary to enter the world with marketable trades and skill set. Consider redeploying these resources to address domestic needs such as infrastructure.      

I agree with this but proposals #1 and #3 sound like government funded socialism to me.

[triplehorn 2664]

forceful words from Major General (ret) Paul Eaton    /siap

 

 

[Mapache 1117]

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

27 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Learn a new song.

Vote for Biden. 

[SizzleChest 8275]

1 hour ago, Chooky said:

This issue will corner trump into having to do an event where he's surrounded by a bunch of icky gross amputees. "These suckers with their disgusting nubs. Let's go! Roll it and get me outta here!"

If it results in a guy with a stump arm gently stroking Trump's hair with the stump while Dotard awkwardly gazes into his eyes with contempt and discomfort, I'm all in for that.

[Pancho 44486]

10 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

You think there are actual Trumpkins here?  Not people who lean rights, or are having a hard time voting for a D, but actual Trumpkins.  People who will say, “yeah fuck those stumpy soldiers, losers. Shouldn’t have been over there not making money, idiots”.    No man. There isn’t anyone over here like that.  There are a few who probably ride the line, but I can’t think of any. 

Yes there are.  You’d be an idiot to think there weren’t any. 

[Biff Tannen 45497]

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

What you described is someone who looks at the other guy who appears to have severe brain atrophy, and says, fuck that.

Are you referencing Biden here?

[HenryJames 65890]

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

24 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Yes there are.  You’d be an idiot to think there weren’t any. 

This board is a bunch of white males 35-55. Of course there are Trumpkins here. They either just don’t admit it, don’t post on the political forum, or like the sack and others have run away to the DT board safe space. 

[tantric superman 4667]

Laughing at the way he is not trying to save Stars and Stripes from the Pentagon.

[RDCanecutter 26281]

Local Alabama Radio hosts (they voted for Trump, refrained from voting for Roy Moore) seem to be balanced halfway towards believing it. Definitely did not dismiss it. If the Atlantic has got a kill-shot follow-up after drawing out all the denials from the Trump camp, could be interesting. You can't walk down the street here without tripping over an Army or Air Force base.

State would probably still go red presidentially, but downballot, hmm. The fact that I even stop to wonder about this is amazing.

[JimmyJames 12271]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/05/trump-military-the-atlantic-omb-report-409312
 

Trump is so mad he is basically confirming he did call the troops suckers and losers. It’s also exactly like something he would say. 

He even asked what kind of animal would say something like that? We all know what kind of animal would say something like that. 

[Anastasis 23394]

10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Let’s just agree to keep our family members out of our disagreements and I think that will tone the rhetoric down. Agreed? 

No sweat. Don't start no shit, won't be no shit jimmy. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

20 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Are you referencing Biden here?

Yes, although I guess the same could easily be said for Trump, especially recently.  But can you sit there and say you think Biden hasn’t dropped dramatically (Mental capacity, gaffes) since 08-16?   It happens.  Fuck, look how fast 41 crashed the last few years.  It’s what happens when we rely on 75 year olds to lead our country (wtf)

I don’t fault anyone for voting for Biden. I could be wrong because I don’t follow him closely, he’s not my flavor, but he seems to be a means to an end candidate, in this cycle at least. He strikes me as someone who just kinda goes with the flow. Which is fine, I guess.  we are living the alternative, where one man gets on a mission, his view of how the country should be.  If his mission isn’t for the country, but himself, well here we are.  If his health fades, KH doesn’t seem like she’d ruin the country or anything, so there’s that. 
 

I also don’t think Trump speaks for the R party. I think he’s on his own fucking mission, and for whatever reason, people has attached themselves to his nuts. I don’t understand it.  I mean you can’t drop him while he the incumbent, and I guess being in power > what’s good for the country to some.  I don’t know, politics have changed so drastically in the last few years I don’t know what to think sometimes and can’t barely keep up.  
 

Pretty fucked up spot for those of us who literally are mostly right down the middle.  I hope I’m wrong, but I think those days are gone. Going to be extreme ends taking turns until we don’t resemble what we once were.  Out on the ledge with Brisket. 

[Anastasis 23394]

1 hour ago, Horn Dog said:

22 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Trump is a piece of shit. But if we want to talk about really caring for the men and women who serve our country, a few things that we should do:

1. Invest in making the VA one of the best health care systems in the world, in particular by focusing on the mental health care needs of our soldiers returning home.

2. Scale down our international military deployment substantially, ending our decades old engagement in Afghanistan in particular. 

3. As we scale down our military forces, both in terms of head count and financial investment, retrain our soldiers as necessary to enter the world with marketable trades and skill set. Consider redeploying these resources to address domestic needs such as infrastructure.      

Read more  

I agree with this but proposals #1 and #3 sound like government funded socialism to me.

 

Shhhh.  Don't talk so loud.  You might ruin my street cred as a dogmatic libertarian boogeyman. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

No sweat. Don't start no shit, won't be no shit jimmy. 

Fist bump and I apologize. I was out of line. 

[David Dennison 18659]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes, although I guess the same could easily be said for Trump, especially recently.  But can you sit there and say you think Biden hasn’t dropped dramatically (Mental capacity, gaffes) since 08-16?   It happens.  Fuck, look how fast 41 crashed the last few years.  It’s what happens when we rely on 75 year olds to lead our country (wtf)

I don’t fault anyone for voting for Biden. I could be wrong because I don’t follow him closely, he’s not my flavor, but he seems to be a means to an end candidate, in this cycle at least. He strikes me as someone who just kinda goes with the flow. Which is fine, I guess.  we are living the alternative, where one man gets on a mission, his view of how the country should be.  If his mission isn’t for the country, but himself, well here we are.  If his health fades, KH doesn’t seem like she’d ruin the country or anything, so there’s that. 
 

I also don’t think Trump speaks for the R party. I think he’s on his own fucking mission, and for whatever reason, people has attached themselves to his nuts. I don’t understand it.  I mean you can’t drop him while he the incumbent, and I guess being in power > what’s good for the country to some.  I don’t know, politics have changed so drastically in the last few years I don’t know what to think sometimes and can’t barely keep up.  
 

Pretty fucked up spot for those of us who literally are mostly right down the middle.  I hope I’m wrong, but I think those days are gone. Going to be extreme ends taking turns until we don’t resemble what we once were.  Out on the ledge with Brisket. 

Joe Biden has not dropped dramatically. That is a political talking point from the right, nothing more.

[jimmyjazz 45560]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes, although I guess the same could easily be said for Trump, especially recently.  But can you sit there and say you think Biden hasn’t dropped dramatically (Mental capacity, gaffes) since 08-16?  

I'll say it.  His mental acuity hasn't dropped "dramatically" at all.  You are falling for Russian propaganda.  It happens, lots of idiots get taken.

Watch the man speak extemporaneously as he did yesterday in a rage against Trump and tell me he's fucking demented.  Come on.  Tell me he's demented.  That will end all credibility, if you have any left.

Fatty gets trucked by Joe Biden

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'll say it.  His mental acuity hasn't dropped "dramatically" at all.  You are falling for Russian propaganda.  It happens, lots of idiots get taken.

Watch the man speak extemporaneously as he did yesterday in a rage against Trump and tell me he's fucking demented.  Come on.  Tell me he's demented.  That will end all credibility, if you have any left.

Fatty gets trucked by Joe Biden

I’m at a loss to understanding how the trump campaign and their Russian backers think this line of attack this is gonna work? Is it all they got? 

[Gil Bang 25898]

holy shit, I peeked at reddit for bit this morning.  r/military,  r/army, etc.  They aren't very fond of Trump over there.

So, for a little counterprogramming, I'm gonna head to texags to see what kind of gymnastics they are up to. 

[FondrenRoad 4378]

I’m at a loss to understanding how the trump campaign and their Russian backers think this line of attack this is gonna work? Is it all they got? 

It has gotten more legs because of people like Joe Rogan who spread a milder version of q anon nonsense.

[RDCanecutter 26281]

4 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

holy shit, I peeked at reddit for bit this morning.  r/military,  r/army, etc.  They aren't very fond of Trump over there.

So, for a little counterprogramming, I'm gonna head to texags to see what kind of gymnastics they are up to. 

My bet is that they will ignore it unless Trump also disses the True Defenders of America, the Fighting Texum Aggum Corps.

 

 

(fwiw, the Corps guys were the only Aggies I got along with. They wore their uniforms and got their tuition paid. It was the "normal" Aggies who'd go all weird on you.)

[RDCanecutter 26281]

15 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

I’m at a loss to understanding how the trump campaign and their Russian backers think this line of attack this is gonna work? Is it all they got? 

They have no one who knows how to build Tiger tanks or ME-262s. They have to go straight to human wave attacks of Trumpjugend.

[RomaVicta 29793]

2 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

I was dealing with allergy issues to notice the misspelling and cut it off a bit early, to be honest. It still hits home for me because my dad would have been his age and would get choked up talking about the war sometimes, especially when thinking about some of his buddies that didn't make it home. You know, the losers. Whoever made it is probably not a professional or is not very good at their job. 

My beloved's father was combat Marine in the Pacific. He died last May. Great guy. Joe.

At the first dinner I had with him, I asked about his time. He landed at Nagasaki when US forces were taking possession of the Japanese Islands. He was designated an Atomic Veteran for this. He spoke of the eeriness of coming into port and seeing no people as the Japanese had been ordered to stay inside.

His group walked through the silent port which showed no damage from the blast. Something caught his eye. Vague movement on one of the Japanese ships docked at the quay. He thought he was looking at scarecrows rustling in the breeze. As the Marines got closer, they could hear faint voices.

This is where Joe broke down as he told the story. The thin, frail scarecrows were captive American soldiers celebrating and trying to get the attention of the Marine patrol. It broke his heart to see them so terribly reduced by their ordeal but still showing life and relief.

The video above reminded me of that. 

I don't advocate particularly cruel punishments. In Trump's case, maybe we should recreate the Hanoi HIlton, The River Kwai, Andersonville, or a Nazi camp. 

Or put him in a cage and drown him with his wicked cabal. He now daily speaks like an actual enemy of the US. He's acted in such a way for four years. He's done more damage than any enemy soldier other than maybe Robert E Lee.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

My beloved's father was combat Marine in the Pacific. He died last May. Great guy. Joe.

At the first dinner I had with him, I asked about his time. He landed at Nagasaki when US forces were taking possession of the Japanese Islands. He was designated an Atomic Veteran for this. He spoke of the eeriness of coming into port and seeing no people as the Japanese had been ordered to stay inside.

His group walked through the silent port which showed no damage from the blast. Something caught his eye. Vague movement on one of the Japanese ships docked at the quay. He thought he was looking at scarecrows rustling in the breeze. As the Marines got closer, they could hear faint voices.

This is where Joe broke down as he told the story. The thin, frail scarecrows were captive American soldiers celebrating and trying to get the attention of the Marine patrol. It broke his heart to see them so terribly reduced by their ordeal but still showing life and relief.

The video above reminded me of that. 

I don't advocate particularly cruel punishments. In Trump's case, maybe we should recreate the Hanoi HIlton, The River Kwai, Andersonville, or a Nazi camp. 

Or put him in a cage and drown him with his wicked cabal. He now daily speaks like an actual enemy of the US. He's acted in such a way for four years. He's done more damage than any enemy soldier other than maybe Robert E Lee.

Thanks for that. Trump calls him a loser and a sucker. Imagine voting for a guy who thinks like that.