BIG is getting embarrassing

[BurntOrange&White 40,050]

The more this drags out indefinitely, the better.  Why not just come out with it if the decision has been made?

Yeah honestly. Why wait until tonight?

[Pato del Muerto 52,640]

17 hours ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Should be getting into the beans by end of the week.

I don’t know what strain of corn you plant, but I’ve been getting sweet corn from a nearby farm for 4-6 weeks now.  They are probably laying down the corn maze right now. And we don’t exactly have an extended growing season up here. 

[ztejas 43,556]

It's not a true big10 thread until the corn growing discussion gets going.

[Wulaw Horn 19,153]

24 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I don’t know what strain of corn you plant, but I’ve been getting sweet corn from a nearby farm for 4-6 weeks now.  They are probably laying down the corn maze right now. And we don’t exactly have an extended growing season up here. 

My ex in-laws in Iowa never seemed to harvest corn until near about thanksgiving- never before Halloween. 
to be fair- he was usually the last one with his crop still in the field. 
The ex was a Hawkeye- thus part of my admiration and like of Iowa State. 

[kopp0e 1,135]

Maybe the B1G will have a vote about posibly having a vote to play..? C'mon B1G, we want some tOSU highlights...

 

[Not a cat 5,726]

8 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

My ex in-laws in Iowa never seemed to harvest corn until near about thanksgiving- never before Halloween. 
to be fair- he was usually the last one with his crop still in the field. 
The ex was a Hawkeye- thus part of my admiration and like of Iowa State. 

My ex was a cyclone, but I still like those goofy bastards anyway.  Haven't been able to stand the Hawkeyes since the Freedom bowl.  Plus Stoops went there.

[4th&Five 41,607]

 

[Dbeasy 15,135]

No so fast my friend

Well all they need to do a scroll through twitter and find a dr from the Mayo Clinic.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

56 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I don’t know what strain of corn you plant, but I’ve been getting sweet corn from a nearby farm for 4-6 weeks now.  They are probably laying down the corn maze right now. And we don’t exactly have an extended growing season up here. 

We don't grow sweet corn.  96-110 day (time span it takes to mature) dent corn.  Used for ethanol or feeding livestock.  The (vast) majority of corn acres around the country serve these purposes.

There are people around here who grow it, but it's a much different business model and takes far fewer acres.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

33 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

My ex in-laws in Iowa never seemed to harvest corn until near about thanksgiving- never before Halloween. 
to be fair- he was usually the last one with his crop still in the field. 
The ex was a Hawkeye- thus part of my admiration and like of Iowa State. 

There are a handful of farmers who do everything late around here and fall into that boat.  Our harvest usually starts in mid to late September and wraps up around Thanksgiving.  Last year, due to the wet conditions all year long (prevented corn from drying down to more efficient harvesting levels) it took us until a few days before Christmas to finish.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

47 minutes ago, ztejas said:

It's not a true big10 thread until the corn growing discussion gets going.

I didn't start it.  Sweater god.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,823]

No so fast my friend

Bucky doubling down

What kind of response is that?

[DenverHorn 56]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

 Why not just come out with it if the decision has been made?

Nothing about this process has been logical from the outside.  The Michigan Prez basically said he had bigger fish to fry than invest too much into this, until he realized the unexpected push back.  Crazy, but I can see it...  these guys are educational administrators not traditional CEO's.  Kevin Warren is the real culprit, he's the "Project Director" all parties are depending on.   Hey, if nothing else at least Warren has been consistent. 

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

Just now, DenverHorn said:

Nothing about this process has been logical from the outside.  The Michigan Prez basically said he had bigger fish to fry than invest too much into this, until he realized the unexpected push back.  Crazy, but I can see it...  these guys are educational administrators not traditional CEO's.  Kevin Warren is the real culprit, he's the "Project Director" all parties are depending on.   Hey, if nothing else at least Warren has been consistent. 

It reminds me of watching Dan Beebe 10 years ago.

I imagine when this is all over, Kevin Warren rolls up to a deserted beach in Mexico and finds Beebe, pickled drunk sitting in a lawn chair watching the ocean, and joins him.

[Big Frog II 511]

What a conference.

[LTtxfan 49,378]

SIAP...

Cowherd  reporting that Oct 17th the Big 10 will start playing 2020 CFB 

 

 

 

Edited September 15, 2020 by LTtxfan

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Big Bitches Conference

[Brothahorn 10,087]

We don't grow sweet corn.  96-110 day (time span it takes to mature) dent corn.  Used for ethanol or feeding livestock.  The (vast) majority of corn acres around the country serve these purposes.
There are people around here who grow it, but it's a much different business model and takes far fewer acres.

Ethanol is still a thing for farmers?

[DenverHorn 56]

2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It reminds me of watching Dan Beebe 10 years ago.

I imagine when this is all over, Kevin Warren rolls up to a deserted beach in Mexico and finds Beebe, pickled drunk sitting in a lawn chair watching the ocean, and joins him.

Pray for high tides in that case.  Amazing that these clowns continue to gain elite employment and successfully progress through there careers getting opportunities based upon "experience".

[UTEX90 589]

8 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP...

Cowherd  reporting that Oct 17th the Big 10 will start playing 2020 CFB 

 

 

 

When will it end?

[Wally Fairway 5,593]

If you are interested you can watch the UM President and UM Provost take questions that have been submitted and are being asked by a Prof (and they say he is the only one who has seen the questions)
I give them credit for doing this in a public forum, this also means he isn't casting a vote about the football season while he is doing this

https://umich.edu/watch/

upper left is the President, bottom is the Provost

Edited September 15, 2020 by Wally Fairway

[Red Five 40,952]

They better play a bunch of double-headers to get caught up. 

[ztejas 43,556]

16 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

Kevin Warren rolls up to a deserted beach in Mexico and finds Beebe, pickled drunk sitting in a lawn chair watching the ocean, and joins him.

[Hagbard Celine 10,938]

11 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Ethanol is still a thing for farmers?

DUDE.

[Not a cat 5,726]

With a 10-17 start date and no bye weeks, they could get 8 games in plus a championship on 12-12.  Going to be hard to keep a 9-0 OSU out of the playoffs.  

[Brothahorn 10,087]

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

DUDE.

I guess I should say private farmers. I'm sure the corporate farms are doing it.

Plus I don't know many people/companies that use it. 

[DenverHorn 56]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

It's not a true big10 thread until the corn growing discussion gets going.

Cat trivia and corn discussion is part of the New World Order.

[DenverHorn 56]

13 minutes ago, UTEX90 said:

When will it end?

When they run out of time...  according to aggy.

[Wally Fairway 5,593]

6 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

With a 10-17 start date and no bye weeks, they could get 8 games in plus a championship on 12-12.  Going to be hard to keep a 9-0 OSU out of the playoffs.  

meh - who cares, this B1G thing is all about Nebraska fans being worried about missing out on 3 or 4 wins this year

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

21 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Ethanol is still a thing for farmers?

For now.

[notre dame joe 197]

1 hour ago, Al_4_ISU said:

The more this drags out indefinitely, the better.  Why not just come out with it if the decision has been made?

They want to have all their ducks in order to avoid the ad hoc shit show they pulled last month.   

It was obvious this was coming when they formed a "return to competition" committee.

[Pato del Muerto 52,640]

1 minute ago, notre dame joe said:

They want to have all their ducks in order to avoid the ad hoc shit show they pulled last month.   

It was obvious this was coming when they formed a "return to competition" committee.

It was coming as soon as the other major conferences didn’t kowtow and also cancel. There’s no way there would be a college football season that the big 10 didn’t take part in. I’m surprised the mwc and wac haven’t gotten their shit together to play as well. 
pac still doesn’t give a shit about football. 

[Tex Pete 20,558]

37 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Bucky doubling down

 

 

 

 

 

These administrators are exactly why the CFP isn't a real playoff. Self-important shitbags.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

8 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

I guess I should say private farmers. I'm sure the corporate farms are doing it.

Plus I don't know many people/companies that use it. 

I'm not sure what you define as a "corporate farm".  What most people mean when they think "corporate farm" doesn't really exist.  Most farms, even those comprised exclusively of family members, are corporations.  This idea of a farm being headquartered out of a skyscraper in a big city with a bunch of mercenary employees 500 miles away isn't really a thing.  In my area, (and most of the country) the largest operations are almost always family businesses on some level.  There may be long time employees that have bought in or have ownership, but the "corporate officers" are often out there running equipment and working shoulder to shoulder with everyone else.  You could call our operation a corporate farm (it is technically a corporation) or a family farm (there are multiple generations of the same family with ownership interests and actively employed here) depending on your view of things.

Many states require X percentage of gasoline to be an ethanol blend.  It's not a forever market, but there are a lot of plants in the western Corn Belt, including 3 within 40 miles of our primary storage site.  It's a big market for us.

[Tex Pete 20,558]

Just now, Al_4_ISU said:

I'm not sure what you define as a "corporate farm".  What most people mean when they think "corporate farm" doesn't really exist.  Most farms, even those comprised exclusively of family members, are corporations.  This idea of a farm being headquartered out of a skyscraper in a big city with a bunch of mercenary employees 500 miles away isn't really a thing.  In my area, (and most of the country) the largest operations are almost always family businesses on some level.  There may be long time employees that have bought in or have ownership, but the "corporate officers" are often out there running equipment and working shoulder to shoulder with everyone else.  You could call our operation a corporate farm (it is technically a corporation) or a family farm (there are multiple generations of the same family with ownership interests and actively employed here) depending on your view of things.

Many states require X percentage of gasoline to be an ethanol blend.  It's not a forever market, but there are a lot of plants in the western Corn Belt, including 3 within 40 miles of our primary storage site.  It's a big market for us.

The hell you say! I was at the corporate farm headquarters just last week. Had some work I needed to do in the basement. In fact, the CEO rode with me to Home Depot to buy some wood.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

6 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

The hell you say! I was at the corporate farm headquarters just last week. Had some work I needed to do in the basement. In fact, the CEO rode with me to Home Depot to buy some wood.

We'll have the COO in a combine, the CFO in a grain cart, and the CEO running around making sure everyone has parts, lunches, and guys make it to the right fields.  At least one member of the Board of Directors will be running a combine too.

Bunch of big cigars behind their desks, I tell ya.

Of course, in all seriousness, smaller operations around here would probably call us a "corporate farm" because we have employees and owners that aren't family, we run a few acres, and have big equipment.  To some people, anything more than 500 acres and a few hogs is a corporate farm.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Al_4_ISU

[Pato del Muerto 52,640]

So all of Iowa and Nebraska isn’t owned by Monsanto?

[notre dame joe 197]

11 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I'm not sure what you define as a "corporate farm".  What most people mean when they think "corporate farm" doesn't really exist.  Most farms, even those comprised exclusively of family members, are corporations.  This idea of a farm being headquartered out of a skyscraper in a big city with a bunch of mercenary employees 500 miles away isn't really a thing.  In my area, (and most of the country) the largest operations are almost always family businesses on some level.  There may be long time employees that have bought in or have ownership, but the "corporate officers" are often out there running equipment and working shoulder to shoulder with everyone else.  You could call our operation a corporate farm (it is technically a corporation) or a family farm (there are multiple generations of the same family with ownership interests and actively employed here) depending on your view of things.

Many states require X percentage of gasoline to be an ethanol blend.  It's not a forever market, but there are a lot of plants in the western Corn Belt, including 3 within 40 miles of our primary storage site.  It's a big market for us.

Casual people would define it as the corporation members have never gotten their fingers dirty and do some kind of lease or share-cropping deal to run it. 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So all of Iowa and Nebraska isn’t owned by Monsanto?

[Brothahorn 10,087]

10 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

I'm not sure what you define as a "corporate farm".  What most people mean when they think "corporate farm" doesn't really exist.  Most farms, even those comprised exclusively of family members, are corporations.  This idea of a farm being headquartered out of a skyscraper in a big city with a bunch of mercenary employees 500 miles away isn't really a thing.  In my area, (and most of the country) the largest operations are almost always family businesses on some level.  There may be long time employees that have bought in or have ownership, but the "corporate officers" are often out there running equipment and working shoulder to shoulder with everyone else.  You could call our operation a corporate farm (it is technically a corporation) or a family farm (there are multiple generations of the same family with ownership interests and actively employed here) depending on your view of things.

Many states require X percentage of gasoline to be an ethanol blend.  It's not a forever market, but there are a lot of plants in the western Corn Belt, including 3 within 40 miles of our primary storage site.  It's a big market for us.

If the Surly Board of Investors were to buy farmland and hire you to manage/produce a crop. I would consider that a corporate farm.

Glad to see, that the family farm is still around. There is a nice sized ranch operation in my part of East Texas where some investors hired a couple of guys to run it. So that's where I got the idea.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

Just now, notre dame joe said:

Casual people would define it as the corporation members have never gotten their fingers dirty and do some kind of lease or share-cropping deal to run it. 

That doesn't really exist in the way it's imagined in many places.

Some of the land we farm is rented from wealthy people who live a long ways away that bought the ground as an investment and have no actual interest in farming.  We cut them a check to use the land, and that's the extent of their involvement.  But they just own land, not the farming operation.

[Hagbard Celine 10,938]

2 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

This idea of a farm being headquartered out of a skyscraper in a big city with a bunch of mercenary employees 500 miles away isn't really a thing.

Maybe in corn.  But that's because of the jabillions of federal subsidy; pork, poultry and especially dairy cattle have absolutely been consolidated.  Your conference mates in southwestern Wisconsin would like a word with you.  Ethanol and HFCS were commercialized to prop up the corn system, and both feed the dead zone in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico from the nitrogen fertilizer (U-North holla).  Ethanol is sold to the public as a "pollution inhibitor" when in fact the only reason combustion engine pollution has decreased is due to technology advances made by the nips in the 80s and 90s to build high-mileage engines that could withstand the extra torture created by combusting 10% impure gasoline that uses ethanol to supposedly "oxidize" the combustion reaction to supposedly produce less pollutants.  There was a time when Detroit-built engines had a half-life of 50000 miles because of ethanol.  Where do you think the 50000-mile warranty came from?  HFCS is an evil chemical that kills, but i'll stand down without beating you up any further.  You didn't create the system.

Just think of yourself as the Walter White of the High Plains.

The feds say total corn production diverted to ethanol is 5%.  Scientific American says it's 40%.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn/

https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn/#sa_body

All that said I still like iSu more than anyone else in the conference.

[Tex Pete 20,558]

7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So all of Iowa and Nebraska isn’t owned by Monsanto?

Our farm planted more Wyffels corn seed than anything else this year. Don't tell Monsanto.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

Just now, Brothahorn said:

If the Surly Board of Investors were to buy farmland and hire you to manage/produce a crop. I would consider that a corporate farm.

Glad to see, that the family farm is still around. There is a nice sized ranch operation in my part of East Texas where some investors hired a couple of guys to run it. So that's where I got the idea.

We'd call that a custom farming arrangement.  You do see that, but it's usually not a large corporation that owns the land. Rather a retired farmer that doesn't want to work anymore, but his accountant wants him to show an active operation.  That's still pretty rare in these parts.

You definitely see more pronounced corporate involvement in seed corn production.  There's little of that in my area, and we aren't involved, so I can't comment with any kind of accuracy.

[Lhorn 4,971]

The more this drags out indefinitely, the better.  Why not just come out with it if the decision has been made?

Like finding out about a surprise birthday early I guess were supposed to just pretend we didn’t hear it and act shocked?

[kopp0e 1,135]

The story of the B1G band getting back together has been seen on FOX Business, so it must be legit (I hope, want to see a few NU/ UM/ tOSU & PSU games):

[Wally Fairway 5,593]

14 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

We'll have the COO in a combine, the CFO in a grain cart, and the CEO running around making sure everyone has parts, lunches, and guys make it to the right fields.  At least one member of the Board of Directors will be running a combine too.

Bunch of big cigars behind their desks, I tell ya.

Of course, in all seriousness, smaller operations around here would probably call us a "corporate farm" because we have employees and owners that aren't family, we run a few acres, and have big equipment.  To some people, anything more than 500 acres and a few hogs is a corporate farm.

 I take it you are the Senior VP of Public Relations, what with all your postings here....for which we are grateful, unless it means crops/equipment are not properly being tended

Edited September 15, 2020 by Wally Fairway

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

6 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Maybe in corn.  But that's because of the jabillions of federal subsidy; pork, poultry and especially dairy cattle have absolutely been consolidated.  Your conference mates in southwestern Wisconsin would like a word with you.  Ethanol and HFCS were commercialized to prop up the corn system, and both feed the dead zone in the middle of the Gulf of Mexico from the nitrogen fertilizer (U-North holla).  Ethanol is sold to the public as a "pollution inhibitor" when in fact the only reason combustion engine pollution has decreased is due to technology advances made by the nips in the 80s and 90s to build high-mileage engines that could withstand the extra torture created by combusting 10% impure gasoline that uses ethanol to supposedly "oxidize" the combustion reaction to supposedly produce less pollutants.  There was a time when Detroit-built engines had a half-life of 50000 miles because of ethanol.  Where do you think the 50000-mile warranty came from?  HFCS is an evil chemical that kills, but i'll stand down without beating you up any further.  You didn't create the system.

Just think of yourself as the Walter White of the High Plains.

The feds say total corn production diverted to ethanol is 5%.  Scientific American says it's 40%.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn/

https://www.textise.net/showText.aspx?strURL=https%3A//www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-to-rethink-corn/#sa_body

All that said I still like iSu more than anyone else in the conference.

Who?  My school has never been in a conference with Wisconsin.

A lot of corn grown here goes to meat production.  HFCS:  use it in moderation.

And I'm quite aware of consolidation in the livestock industry.  Many people (mistakenly) believe that the same level of consolidation has occurred in grain production.  There is constant consolidation, but there are a lot of things that make the model from the livestock industry impractical for row crop production.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Al_4_ISU

[Tex Pete 20,558]

Just now, Wally Fairway said:

 I take it your are the Senior VP of Public Relations, what with all your postings here....for which we are grateful, unless it means crops/equipment are not properly being tended

I will defend Al here. Harvest will start later this week. All that's happening right now is equipment prep and maybe logisitical arrangements. Of course that's more than farmers do most of the year.

[Al_4_ISU 12,509]

4 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

 I take it you are the Senior VP of Public Relations, what with all your postings here....for which we are grateful, unless it means crops/equipment are not properly being tended

CFO.  I'm at a desk a few hours a day during the summer, and all day during the winter.  This is my main internet distraction.  I've given up Facebook mostly and don't even post on Cyclone boards much anymore.

Damn tapa notifications make it real easy to post on the fly, too.

Equipment is being prepped by employees, I'm wrapping up a couple analytical projects, and supervising some clean up around the storage sites.  I try to have everything off my plate before I go live in a cab for 2.5 months.  Once harvest starts, it's 16-18 hour days (sometimes longer) unless it rains.

Edited September 15, 2020 by Al_4_ISU