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31 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just watching some of the late second half, Bledsoe and Tapp caught my eye. They looked like different athletes. Both are very raw, but the talent was evident. It will be interesting to see how they develop 

 

Yeah, Jaray is probably one of the most underrated freshmen on this team.  

"The 6-foot-4, 270-pound lineman played at Bremond prior to his senior season and was a first-team all-district selection at both running back and defensive line as a junior."

 

Bledsoe wasn't allowed to play his senior season.

"Bledsoe looked like a man among boys playing 2A ball for the Tigers, helping propel them to the second round of the playoffs. After changing schools in the offseason and moving to Marlin, the UIL ruled him ineligible for the upcoming season."

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40 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just watching some of the late second half, Bledsoe and Tapp caught my eye. They looked like different athletes. Both are very raw, but the talent was evident. It will be interesting to see how they develop 

Coburn got Tapp’s sack when Tapp drew the holding penalty. 

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55 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Just watching some of the late second half, Bledsoe and Tapp caught my eye. They looked like different athletes. Both are very raw, but the talent was evident. It will be interesting to see how they develop 

Both are raw but we’re going to recruit more of those body type otherwise we’re not going to be able to compete in a LOS league with likes of Coburn, Ojomo, etc.  Look at Coburn and then look at the Bama DL.  Our guys look like a middle school group with their physical development compared to the best teams in the country.  

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Both are raw but we’re going to recruit more of those body type otherwise we’re not going to be able to compete in a LOS league with likes of Coburn, Ojomo, etc.  Look at Coburn and then look at the Bama DL.  Our guys look like a middle school group with their physical development compared to the best teams in the country.  

 Don’t if you are old enough to remember playing football on Atari. Players were basically squares, that is what I think of when I see Coburn 

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pff credited Coburn with 2 hurries and 1 sack all of last season. He finished with 2 hurries and 1 sack in yesterday's game. ulm was overmatched but him taking the game seriously gives some hope for his season..

you know about sorrell's sacks but he also had 5 total "stops", which is supposed to be a statistic for plays he made that deemed the play a "failure" for the offense. murphy had 4. burke had 3.

ojomo, bledsoe, tapp, and ovie were also credited with pressures/hits.

Broughton seems just as likely to make a play at the LOS as he is to get driven back to the end zone. still has inconsistent technique.

heavy rotation on the dline though ovie stayed on the field more often than not. seems only slightly improved, not enough to move the needle

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On 9/4/2022 at 9:32 AM, LTtxfan said:

Yeah, Jaray is probably one of the most underrated freshmen on this team.  "The 6-foot-4, 270-pound lineman played at Bremond prior to his senior season and was a first-team all-district selection at both running back and defensive line as a junior."

Bledsoe wasn't allowed to play football his senior season.  "Bledsoe looked like a man among boys playing 2A ball for the Tigers, helping propel them to the second round of the playoffs. After changing schools in the offseason and moving to Marlin, the UIL ruled him ineligible for the upcoming season."

IT Bama Game Notes

IT asked if we’d see more of the promising young Edge players who played late against UL-M. “Guys like J’Mond Tapp and Jaray Bledsoe, they may get out there if depth calls for it, but not likely.” IT mentioned their untapped potential (no pun intended) and heard back, “Jaray might be the best athlete on the team. Word is he can 360 dunk and is just good at everything. Once he’s fully developed he’ll be a fantastic player.”

Defensive tackle Alfred Collins should play this week. We didn’t hear an estimate on snaps, but we expect to see big No. 95. Texas needs a great push from the interior and even on limited snaps, if that’s how it plays out, Collins can make some plays.

IT asked a source if the Keondre Coburn we saw in the first game is the one we’ll see all season. “He has a different mindset this year.” We’ve heard rumblings of the coaches challenging him, especially with Byron Murphy pushing for so much playing time. Being in a contract year can’t hurt, either. It was encouraging “Snacks” reshaped his body relative to his body type. It was even more encouraging they were asking him to attack.

 

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For some reason I saw them taking Broughton off the field a lot on 3rd down, which is when you would think he would be most useful. Not complaining but just found it odd.

Coburn in particular looks like a completely player. He is playing with great effort, pad level and was getting off blocks well.

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IT- Coach Venables   Bama Game

That was the closest thing to the old UT defense’s in a long time. It was like the old saying—we got there because everybody wanted to get there. Even the guys on the bench wanted a shot at old number one. Once again injury knocked out a starter. D’Shawn Jamison (5) went down with a foot injury after almost picking off a curl route.

Let’s talk DT. We rotated six big guys and they all had penetration advancements to help force Bama out of their ground game. The best accomplishment (my opinion) was the push upfield to bust the pocket and force the QB into an early decision. Keondre Coburn (99), Moro Ojomo (98), T’Vondre Sweat (93), Byron Murphy (90), Vernon Broughton (45), and Alfred Collins (95) gave better than they took. Thank you indeed.

Let’s talk DE/Edge, and various assignments. Barryn Sorrell (88) had one horrible play where as a 9 technique he got reached by an OT. This is a cardinal sin for a DE. The end result was a 80 yard TD. It’s not all his fault mind you but he started a chain reaction that led to a poor angle and a miscommunication of who forces and who contains. Just one different reaction by any of them and it’s a ten yard gain. Stuff happens.

We need to talk about pass rush from the edge. We are still running too far upfield. Ovie Oghoufo (18) hasn’t learned from last year nor has he been effectively coached to brake when he gets even with the QB and find the best path to the ball. He got credit for a sack despite going too deep once the QB fell leaving the pocket. Coverage sack all the way. He got beat bad in coverage by the RB on the last drive. Both Edges (88) and (18) also fall victim at times to ducking inside when the OT invites them in. Losing contain is not acceptable especially when you have a QB that has run ability and smart like the Bama QB. I didn’t see any of the young guys, Justice Finkley (1), J’Mond Tapp (17), or Jaray Bledsoe (94) get any worthwhile snaps.

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Several Dline guys have looked like NFL Prospects. Keep it up. Their disruption has kept the second level cleaner. Our LBers are much better when the line doesn’t get an immediate release to that level. As you’d expect I suppose. Then Thompson has forced like a safety should on several occasions. It always has and always will start up front. Team defense. Hope they keep gaining understanding of assignment football.

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Film room: The Texas defensive line showed out versus Alabama

Joe Cook•about 16 hours

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Texas defensive linemen accounted for 14 of the team’s 59 total tackles during Saturday’s 20-19 loss to Alabama, but they had a drastic effect on the game.

Mainstays of the Texas defensive front like interior linemen Keondre Coburn, Moro Ojomo, T’Vondre Sweat, Vernon Broughton, Alfred Collins, and Byron Murphy plus EDGE defenders Barryn Sorrell and Ovie Oghoufo made life extremely difficult for the Alabama offensive line. So much so, Crimson Tide offensive coordinator Bill O’Brien had to essentially abandon the run game in the second half.

“We loved how we played,” Coburn said Monday. “We felt like we striked. We felt like we dominated up front. We just felt like we did what we were supposed to do. We felt like we did what we’ve been doing since the spring, and what we keep preaching.”

How did it look? What was successful? What wasn’t? Take a look in the film room.

13:59 Q1 – 2nd and 9

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This is from the first series for the Crimson Tide, and is one of a handful of examples of Texas’ defensive linemen muddying things for the Bama offense. The tight end and the left tackle occupy the Longhorn EDGE defenders. The center and left guard have to handle Coburn while the right guard and right tackle move toward Ojomo.

Are the two Texas DTs in the play? Not necessarily, and even a play or two prior they were busting through the line. But they make most of the middle of the line a no-go on this play. Note where the linebackers are as a result. Jaylan Ford and DeMarvion Overshown both fill available gaps. Now, look where Ryan Watts is. If he’s in the weakside hole, this goes nowhere. But Jahmyr Gibbs shows good vision to get a few yards before Thompson and Ford wrap him up. Sometimes doing your job doesn’t go down in the stat sheet.

12:03 Q1 – 1st & 10

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After a long swing pass to Gibbs, the Tide take over on the 50. This ends up being a positive play for Alabama, and the offensive line does get some push. But look at the effort it requires. Again, both defensive tackles field two blockers and the linebackers do a solid job of filling gaps. At this point, guys are in the right spots and doing the right thing but we haven’t seen a ton of one-on-one (or two) wins quite yet.

11:31 Q1 – 2nd & 6

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It didn’t take long for Bryce Young to get his first introduction to the Longhorn defense. Bama is in a two-TE set, so Texas brings in an extra defensive lineman for what’s almost a 3-4 look. Texas brings six, but it’s one of the three-down linemen in Broughton who gets home about the same time as linebacker Diamonte Tucker-Dorsey.

10:15 Q1 – 2nd & 3

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Watch Ojomo. Though the turf monster gets Gibbs, No. 98 helps to end this play before it starts. Good work from Sorrell to hold the EDGE, and Jahdae Barron, too.

9:33 Q1 – 3rd & 7

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Just a three-man pressure that sees the JACK drop into coverage. Good coverage downfield and tenacious effort from Oghoufo earns him the sack. A big stop after being on the field for over five minutes, and a hint of what we would see in much of the game.

2:47 Q1 – 1st & 10

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There was a lot of good, but there was some bad and it resulted in a one-play drive for Alabama. There’s nothing particularly special about this play, though it is good scheming by Alabama. Instead of a tight end versus Overshown, it’s a tight end versus Guilbeau.

But what happened inside on what looks like a simple outside zone play? Sorrell gets pushed out of the play, as does Collins. D’Shawn Jamison tries to force the ball inside but there’s no force player there to handle Jase McClellan. After that, it’s off to the races. A bad play from multiple players, but one of the few blemishes on the day

15:00 Q2 – 2nd & Goal

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The defensive line didn’t just help on defensive plays. Look who is at fullback, that’s No. 90 Byron Murphy. Last year, linebacker Devin Richardson filled this role. This season, Steve Sarkisian and Tashard Choice thought to get bigger at the position.

14:19 Q2 – 2nd & 6

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The five-man pressure puts every Bama O-lineman in a one-on-one situation, and Murphy parlays his success on offense into a pressure in Young’s face on defense. Oghoufo also wins against his man, and the collapsing pocket forces a throw to a covered receiver rather than the open check down. Instead of the interception, Jamison gets a PBU. Bama gets a first down on the next play, but they would eventually punt to end this drive.

10:43 Q2 – 3rd & 9

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Here is the play that forces the punt. After several great stops on perimeter passes, Texas overloads the right side of the Alabama line with a pass-rush look. The protection doesn’t match-up properly, and Ford is there to reap the benefits. The Texas D-line had a great game, but so too did defensive coordinator Pete Kwiatkowski

5:25 Q2 – 2nd & 8

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Another case of ‘it wasn’t all good.’ Collins feels the wrath of the double team, so much so he gets blocked outside of Oghoufo. Overshown tracks this down well but not before Gibbs gains a few yards.

2:39 Q2 – 2nd & 8

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Ojomo is playing some of the best football of his career in the early portions of the 2022 season. He straight-up beats his man, battles through what could be a hold, and makes the tackle to limit Gibbs to a one-yard gain.

Though this is a defensive line study… Jerrin Thompson was around the ball a lot in this game. He wanted it there, as evidenced by the swipe at the end.

13:15 Q3 – 1st & 10

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This is the first offensive play of the second half for Bama, and the clip starts pre-snap as evidence of the communication that took place on the field for much of this game. Alabama switches the formation up with a TE motion, and Ojomo and Coburn shift in response. Coburn then blows up the center on the outside run, and Ojomo uses his hands with precision to bottle up Gibbs. These guys did a lot of great things pre-snap and post-snap, and this may be some of the best evidence.

9:59 Q3 – 3rd & 7

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Okay, here’s the play. So much poor officiating takes place in one sequence, it’s hard to know where to start. Targeting? Pff. Not intentional grounding? Well, Sarkisian said Monday grounding is not reviewable. Young’s saving grace here was that the ball was deflected, because it’s obvious he’s throwing the ball at his linemen, who are not eligible receivers. Lenient officials could say he was trying to get it to McClellan. Either way, there are pictures that show his calf was down, meaning he was down. Though Texas kicked a field goal on the following drive, they probably would have liked the extra possession. Or for Oghoufo to have caught it, but that’s a difficult ask.

Now, for the defensive line, which gets some help from Guilbeau. Sorrell holds the edge, Sweat bursts through the line with the help of a bump from from Murphy, then wrangles Young for the play resulting in the… incomplete pass.

This was the fifth of six-straight Bama drives that went three-and-out.

4:38 Q3 – 3rd & 9

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This was the sixth three-and-out. Watch Murphy hustle, hustle, hustle, and swipe at Young’s leg to bring him down short of the line to gain.

From this point on, Alabama tried to put the game in Young’s hands, attempting 19 passes to just eight runs, and three of those eight were Young scrambles.

12:18 Q4 – 3rd & 7

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Here is one of those scrambles. Overshown has to stay with the back out of the backfield, and Broughton getting forced out of the play gives Young plenty of room to pick up the first. When Sarkisian talks about “rush lanes,” this is what he’s referring to. Oghoufo also gets pretty far upfield here. There are tired legs out there, but there are some fundamental demands that result in plays like this when they aren’t met — especially when the defense is in man coverage.

9:40 Q4 – 3rd & 3

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Maybe because it’s four-down territory, Alabama makes it pretty obvious they are going to pass here with how their O-line filled with players in two-point stances. Collins makes his man look silly and gets pressure on Young, who has to throw it to green grass.
 

From that point on, Young utilized a passing game that mostly got the ball out quickly. Gibbs was one of his top targets, and tacked on an important huge gain against Oghoufo in the later stages of the contest. Of course, Young also made the plays of the game to score a go-ahead touchdown and also avoid a corner blitz to set up the game-winning field goal.

Alabama thought they could wear down the Texas defensive line, but Bo Davis’ group had other plans. If they can replicate that play across the remaining 10 games, it’ll be tough sledding against the Longhorn defensive front.

 

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1 hour ago, LTtxfan said:

Film room: The Texas defensive line showed out versus Alabama

Joe Cook•about 16 hours

 

There is a lot of tape now of Ovie flying up the field. Even his sack he is out of position, but luckily is the beneficiary of good coverage. That is going to be worth 50 yards this week vs UTSA, if it doesnt stop. There is no need to every be 2-3 yards beyond the QB, especially ones with running ability.  Collins looked like he got pushed around pretty good on Saturday, though just a few clips and I know he had a nice QB pressure.

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23 hours ago, Codaxx said:

There is a lot of tape now of Ovie flying up the field. Even his sack he is out of position, but luckily is the beneficiary of good coverage. That is going to be worth 50 yards this week vs UTSA, if it doesnt stop. There is no need to every be 2-3 yards beyond the QB, especially ones with running ability.  Collins looked like he got pushed around pretty good on Saturday, though just a few clips and I know he had a nice QB pressure.

Yeah, ovie has been better about holding the edge in the run game this year (still not great) but he rushes way too far up field and takes himself out of the play. Our front 7 is much improved, but he and Ford are the two biggest weak links right now. It would be nice to see some of the freshman eat into Obie’s snap count as the year goes on. 
 

Collins is still way too boom or bust. He gets some nice pressures, but he gets washed out way too often. It’s ridiculous that a guy with his physical skills can’t hold up more consistently. 

16 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

 

The biggest difference between our DL this year and last year is that they’re using their hands to control the blockers. We saw very little shedding last year like you see in those two clips. There was way too much standing up straight and being passive last year. The leverage and hand usage is much improved two games in.   The most infuriating thing about last year is that we had the talent on the DL to be performing at this level, but we weren’t even close. 

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