2020 US Open -- Winged Foot

[PittsburghTiger 6174]

1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

And that was at Oakmont 

[ztejas 43411]

13 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:

22 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That's fine. Doesn't mean he's cheating. 

Doesn't mean he's not. He won one major. Let's tap the breaks on how he's reinvented the game. I do know he didn't do shit before 3 months of down time with nothing but shakes and weights.

He's going to keep winning. And I haven't seen anyone on this thread say he's "reinventing the game". Take it up with the talking heads. 

And he already had a US Am, NCAA Individual and 5 tour wins including the Memorial before today. This isn't some breakthrough win like Morikawa.

[ztejas 43411]

17 minutes ago, DCA_HORN said:

27 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That's fine. Doesn't mean he's cheating. 

Doesn't mean he's not. He won one major. Let's tap the breaks on how he's reinvented the game. I do know he didn't do shit before 3 months of down time with nothing but shakes and weights.

He's going to keep winning. And I haven't seen anyone on this thread say he's "reinventing the game". Take it up with the talking heads. 

And he already had a US Am, NCAA Individual and 5 tour wins including the Memorial before today. This isn't some breakthrough win like Morikawa.

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36 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Some of you seem really salty about how good he is.

No saltiness here, in a big fan of hit it as far as you can 

he plays too slow and comes across has a huge douche 

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

That’s how you add 40 lbs of fat, he added 40 lbs of muscle in one short offseason 

He hasn't come close to adding 40 lbs of muscle. Only way to do that in that amount of time is serious roids. He's bigger. He's stronger,  but not 40lbs of muscle. 

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18 minutes ago, ztejas said:

He's going to keep winning. And I haven't seen anyone on this thread say he's "reinventing the game". Take it up with the talking heads. 

And he already had a US Am, NCAA Individual and 5 tour wins including the Memorial before today. This isn't some breakthrough win like Morikawa.

He might. None of the younger guys have sustained a career after signing a huge deal. I dont know what he has with puma/cobra but I'm sure it isn't what rory or Jordan or Ricky got. But I'll bet his agent is on the phone right now. 

Tough to keep the focus with 100mm in the bank. His brain is weird enough he might do it though. 

I don't like him,  and I think that's fine. Golf needs a heel. Except for Reed. Fuck that guy. 

[ztejas 43411]

7 minutes ago, pops said:

He hasn't come close to adding 40 lbs of muscle. Only way to do that in that amount of time is serious roids. He's bigger. He's stronger,  but not 40lbs of muscle. 

Yeah he's big but he's not exactly shredded. If he was this big and had Rory's definition then I might be wondering. 

[ztejas 43411]

2 minutes ago, pops said:

He might. None of the younger guys have sustained a career after signing a huge deal. I dont know what he has with puma/cobra but I'm sure it isn't what rory or Jordan or Ricky got. But I'll bet his agent is on the phone right now. 

Tough to keep the focus with 100mm in the bank. His brain is weird enough he might do it though. 

I don't like him,  and I think that's fine. Golf needs a heel. Except for Reed. Fuck that guy. 

Like I said upthread, I think he just loves golf. I'm not sure about your money theory - I'd have to look into it further. I know it isn't true for everyone - a la Tiger, Phil, Rory. I think Kopeka had a big Nike deal before he won his last couple majors. 

But those are like 4 of the 5 best guys of the past 20 years so we'll see. 

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He gained 40 lbs, per the articles. Not sure the muscle ratios 

[4th&Five 41506]

He’ll definitely keep winning if he stays healthy. This was the major people didn’t think he could win because he couldn’t consistently find the fairway and he dominated the field. He He’s also going to a longer driver to hit it further. 

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His game, he could go on a roll and start racking up majors. Back to back masters would not shock me 

[pops 6980]

37 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Like I said upthread, I think he just loves golf. I'm not sure about your money theory - I'd have to look into it further. I know it isn't true for everyone - a la Tiger, Phil, Rory. I think Kopeka had a big Nike deal before he won his last couple majors. 

But those are like 4 of the 5 best guys of the past 20 years so we'll see. 

Not saying you're wrong.  But it sure seems like we've seen the new big money crowd kind of flame out after huge deals. Tiger doesn't count... he's been on a todd marinovich tear since age 2. Phil is Phil. Rory hasn't won a major in 6 years. 

Like i said... just a theory but it seems a lot easier now to not worry about purses and trophies when you never have to worry about money again. 

But...bryson has a different brain. Will be interesting to see. That was one of the all time great closing rounds. 

 

Edit to add.... there are so many great players now that I don't know if anyone is good enough to blow the field away for a sustained period. I also wonder if brysons body will be able to handle the extra weight without injury. Koepkas clearly hasn't. 

Edited September 21, 2020 by pops

[4th&Five 41506]

Edited September 21, 2020 by 4th&Five

[Wally Fairway 5539]

What will designers try to do to Bryson-proof courses?
It will be interesting to see what he can do at ANGC, with hardly any rough - he will be hitting wedge into the par 5's, and #3 is 350 so that is driveable, the fairway bunkers on #18 are carriable and I'm sure there are other holes that he (and Wolff, DJ and a few others) can play past the trouble off the tee.

[aggie08 21481]

9 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

Didn’t hear about this at all yesterday. Danny Lee has a breakdown on 18 and then withdraws. 

 

Missed this the first time through. What a bitch. For the withdraw, not the meltdown. Own it, and get your ass back on the course. It's the fucking U.S. Open.

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im going 1/2 inch longer on my next driver. the next group of up and coming golfers will try to copy him, for sure. 

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https://golfweek.usatoday.com/gallery/us-open-bryson-dechambeau-transformation-photos/

 

 

[StruggleBus 3922]

43 minutes ago, Wally Fairway said:

What will designers try to do to Bryson-proof courses?
It will be interesting to see what he can do at ANGC, with hardly any rough - he will be hitting wedge into the par 5's, and #3 is 350 so that is driveable, the fairway bunkers on #18 are carriable and I'm sure there are other holes that he (and Wolff, DJ and a few others) can play past the trouble off the tee.

Luckily it seems that ANGC isn’t that worried about how hard the course plays. If they wanted to, they could make 13 and 15 par 4’s, grow some longer rough, and Augusta would be the most difficult golf course in the world. 

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

2 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

What will designers try to do to Bryson-proof courses?
It will be interesting to see what he can do at ANGC, with hardly any rough - he will be hitting wedge into the par 5's, and #3 is 350 so that is driveable, the fairway bunkers on #18 are carriable and I'm sure there are other holes that he (and Wolff, DJ and a few others) can play past the trouble off the tee.

About all you can do is make the rough so penalizing waaay down at 330+ that going that long but missing the fairway isn’t still an advantage because of more lofted irons. 

[ztejas 43411]

6 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

About all you can do is make the rough so penalizing waaay down at 330+ that going that long but missing the fairway isn’t still an advantage because of more lofted irons. 

Courses could start creating landing zones instead of straight, uninterrupted fairways. But that wouldn't be optimal for non-tournament play.

[Revolution512 1487]

Lol, create miniature golf? They can start by dialing back the ball and equipment 

[ztejas 43411]

9 minutes ago, Revolution512 said:

Lol, create miniature golf? They can start by dialing back the ball and equipment 

I was just piggybacking on what Pato said. Obviously it wouldn't work for the reason I outlined. 

[Blotto 23485]

If you want to shoot a big number, you have to think outside the box. 

 

[4th&Five 41506]

14 hours ago, Revolution512 said:

Lol, create miniature golf? They can start by dialing back the ball and equipment 

this.  we have guys that are 5'8" and 160 pounds hitting the ball 350.  it's laughable.

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

You dial back the gear, the longer guys are still going to be hitting a club or two less approach than the average or below average guys. 
The risk/reward is out of balance for bombing.  Need to increase the risk by narrowing fairways and toughening rough past a certain distance. 

[4th&Five 41506]

Bryson said he wants to put on 10 or 15 more pounds before The Masters.

 

[DCA_HORN 725]

Bryson said he wants to put on 10 or 15 more pounds before The Masters.
 

In 6 weeks. Yep nothing to see here.

The game hasn't suddenly changed. We don't need target golf in the middle of the desert. Everything will work itself out.

[ztejas 43411]

36 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You dial back the gear, the longer guys are still going to be hitting a club or two less approach than the average or below average guys. 

Yeah but there's much more difference between a wedge and an 8 iron than an 8 iron and 6 iron.