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The Russians didn't help trump win. It is was all Hillary's fault. I didn't want to vote for trump, but damn Hillary is the devil.  

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The film series "Big Sausage Pizza" isn't really about pizza.  Sure, there's a pizza, but there's another level.  

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1 hour ago, Chooky said:

The film series "Big Sausage Pizza" isn't really about pizza.  Sure, there's a pizza, but there's another level.  

He fixes the cable?

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On April 18, 2018 at 7:47 PM, DixonHur said:

I've come to the conclusion that Hugo must be independently wealthy.  No working stiff could possibly have this much time on his hands.

 

He's just pissed about the hrc  not POTUS thread.

 

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On 4/20/2018 at 9:51 AM, Stros said:

The Russians didn't help trump win. It is was all Hillary's fault. I didn't want to vote for trump, but damn Hillary is the devil.  

Yep, she's the devil without any proof.  Meanwhile Satan is sitting there fucking over the middle class, grabbing pussy while supporting pedos, swinging deals for his brand and his bros with government backing along with Russian approved diplomacy, and a bunch of dipshits somewhere with f'ed up logic based on party over country sold out our elections.  The ultra f'ed up part is thinking Liberals lost.  Here's a clue, Liberals aren't poor.  

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On 4/19/2018 at 7:41 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I think the conservative movement was poisoned when religion got involved 

Conservatives have ridden the abortion pony for a long time.  I used to believe they were trying to do something about it.  I have grown to believe that conservatives no longer care and are using it just as a means to get elected without actually doing any of the dirty work to put in place reasonable restrictions or even individually get their own moral houses in order. Its just a con.  Very easy to get on the bandwagon and do nothing.

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On 4/20/2018 at 8:51 AM, Stros said:

The Russians didn't help trump win. It is was all Hillary's fault. I didn't want to vote for trump, but damn Hillary is the devil.  

Kind of an ironic post considering we now know Russian trolls were pushing the "Hillary is the devil" story.

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On ‎4‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 6:19 PM, Incredulity said:

Will you post your Soros paystub?

Will you post pictures of sucking Trump's orange cock?

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3 minutes ago, BYG Jacob said:

Will you post pictures of sucking Trump's orange cock?

Those don't come out from the shrine for just anybody.  You have to first prove you're a Trump loyalist which means you'll have your own pictures to swap.

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12 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Will you post pictures of yourself docking with Chuck Schumer?

If I had actually ever voted for him  maybe. Fuck off to Texags Trump Cuck.

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1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

You’re easily rattled. Guess that comes from Mom and Dad always being there to catch you.  The world is a scary place.  You will be challenged. 

Your reading comprehension is terrible, going senile? And no, the world isn't scary.

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Donald Trump Jr. reportedly stayed in touch with the family of the Russian oligarch behind the controversial Trump Tower meeting for weeks after his father was elected president. According to sources cited by BuzzFeed News, Trump Jr. exchanged a “series of text messages” with Emin Agalarov, the Azeri-Russian pop singer son of Aras Agalarov, until at least mid-December 2016. The older Agalarov was the driving force behind the June 2016 Trump Tower meeting, a key focal point of the Russia investigation that saw Trump’s top aides meet with a Russian lawyer who has now admitted to being an “informant” for the Kremlin.

Despite the Trumps downplaying the significance of their ties to the Kremlin-linked Agalarov family, the interactions described by Buzzfeed appear to suggest the families are much closer than previously thought. The exchanges reportedly went beyond Trump Jr. interacting with the younger Agalarov. Shortly after the Trump Tower meeting, Aras Agalarov sent Trump an “expensive painting” for his birthday, prompting a gushing thank-you note from Trump, according to the report.

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This is as good a thread as any for this:

Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

Alnur Mussayev, 71, a former head of intelligence in Kazakhstan and before that a Soviet KGB officer, made the explosive claim in a Facebook post on Thursday. He claimed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, which was responsible for counter-intelligence support within the economy. One of its key objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

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Mussayev wrote that in 1987 “our directorate recruited Donald Trump, a 40-year-old American businessman, under the pseudonym Krasnov.” He offered no corroborating evidence, but is a well-known former senior intelligence agent. The Daily Beast has reached out to him for comment.

In his Facebook post, he said that his department specialized in recruiting spies and intelligence sources from the West, asserting once again that Trump had been brought into the fold.

He made another shocking allegation in another comment, saying: “Today, the personal file of resident ‘Krasnov’ has been removed from the FSB. It is being privately managed by one of Putin’s close associates.”

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14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

This is as good a thread as any for this:

Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

Alnur Mussayev, 71, a former head of intelligence in Kazakhstan and before that a Soviet KGB officer, made the explosive claim in a Facebook post on Thursday. He claimed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, which was responsible for counter-intelligence support within the economy. One of its key objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

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Mussayev wrote that in 1987 “our directorate recruited Donald Trump, a 40-year-old American businessman, under the pseudonym Krasnov.” He offered no corroborating evidence, but is a well-known former senior intelligence agent. The Daily Beast has reached out to him for comment.

In his Facebook post, he said that his department specialized in recruiting spies and intelligence sources from the West, asserting once again that Trump had been brought into the fold.

He made another shocking allegation in another comment, saying: “Today, the personal file of resident ‘Krasnov’ has been removed from the FSB. It is being privately managed by one of Putin’s close associates.”

I've been told that only ultra-right knuckedraggers believe these dumb as fuck conspiracies... 

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19 minutes ago, Captainant said:

This is as good a thread as any for this:

Former Intelligence Officer Claims KGB Recruited Trump

Alnur Mussayev, 71, a former head of intelligence in Kazakhstan and before that a Soviet KGB officer, made the explosive claim in a Facebook post on Thursday. He claimed that he served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, which was responsible for counter-intelligence support within the economy. One of its key objectives, he claimed, was “recruiting businessmen from capitalist countries.”

...

Mussayev wrote that in 1987 “our directorate recruited Donald Trump, a 40-year-old American businessman, under the pseudonym Krasnov.” He offered no corroborating evidence, but is a well-known former senior intelligence agent. The Daily Beast has reached out to him for comment.

In his Facebook post, he said that his department specialized in recruiting spies and intelligence sources from the West, asserting once again that Trump had been brought into the fold.

He made another shocking allegation in another comment, saying: “Today, the personal file of resident ‘Krasnov’ has been removed from the FSB. It is being privately managed by one of Putin’s close associates.”

The story of him getting recruited (or compromised) by the KGB in the 1980s has been around forever. I guess the only new thing is this dude posting about it.

Given his peculiar pro-Putin proclivities, I have no reason to doubt it, though.

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30 minutes ago, bolverk said:

The story of him getting recruited (or compromised) by the KGB in the 1980s has been around forever. I guess the only new thing is this dude posting about it.

Given his peculiar pro-Putin proclivities, I have no reason to doubt it, though.

the only other reason to doubt it being that it's 45,000 % bullshit, nope, no reason to doubt it.  

And this is in no way an indictment of me being pro-Russian.  It's simply not believing one god damned silly as fuck thing that Russia ever says.

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1) He can be bought. Easily. Sometimes even without money being involved.
2) An actual Russian asset in the White House wouldn’t be behaving any differently.

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Just now, Dahobbs said:

 

Yeah guys, it isn't like a Russian agent would try and fracture NATO, weaken US global force deployment, attempt to pit America against itself and its allies, institute economic policies that would destabilize the most powerful economy on earth, repeat Russian propaganda about a war that Russia started, or give Russia everything it wants in a "peace" negotiation to end that war. 

What's that? That is exactly what a Russian agent would do? Never mind then. 

Reminds me of a doctor friend who, when asked, "Is tfg going senile?" responded, "How would we know?"  

In other words, he's already acting senile/like a KGB agent.  Does it really matter at this point how he got there?

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"World leaders think that Donald Trump is an easy mark, easy to manipulate with flattery or favor.  Autocrats like Putin and Kim Jong Un are rooting for him."

... as are those that voted for him.

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Man, Trump's association with Roy Cohn should have destroyed his aspirations for public office.  Instead, we're going to let him eclipse Roy Cohn for worst American ever.

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And there’s this:

Former Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger has lashed out at President Donald Trump for his lenient approach to Russia's invasion of Ukraine , branding him a "scared, trembling, sissy, husk of a man." 

Kinzinger, who served as a lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard and is now a senior political commentator for CNN, posted a lengthy and scathing critique of President Trump on X. On Wednesday, Trump suggested it was "unlikely" that Ukraine would reclaim the territory it has lost since 2014, stating that Russia "fought for that land and they lost a lot of soldiers". 

In response, Kinzinger wrote: "Trump is surrendering America. Trump is the opposite of strong. He is a tiny, weak, small, scared, trembling, sissy, husk of a man. There is nothing manly about his fat, sweaty, smelly, gross, makeup'ed self. An absolute joke." Trump's comments have sparked outrage, particularly from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who, after being excluded from US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia, accused the U.S. president of "living in a disinformation space" controlled by Moscow.

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It’s pretty well known he helped launder money outside Russia for the oligarchs years and years ago, and the mueller report basically laid out serious wrong doing the first time. No one believed it because he refused to recommend prosecution or to claim he should be indicted only because he took the position it was a question for congress or for prosecutors after his term ended and to informally indict him in the report would amount to a violation of trump’s right to a speedy trial, which in retrospect is fucking laughable, but the obstruction of justice claim was spot on and there was evidence of Russian offers to help Trump’s campaign and in some instances they were receptive. There was ultimately not enough in his view to charge but mueller did not exonerate him, in fact the report on collusion is quite damning even point to the exact meeting in Trump tower NYC where it likely would have occurred, but like most mob bosses it can be extremely hard to pin exact proof on the one guy. There was so much god damn smoke and has been for decades to summarily dismiss the “special” relationship between Russia and Trump is straight denial. 

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100% chance that Epstein was also a Russian asset. It’s why it was so easy to turn people like Ladybug and Cruz.

With Musk also having all the Twitter DMs of EVERYONE it’s also why he is able to do whatever he wants with impunity. I’m sure Trump was so stupid to have had conversations with his handlers while he was on the shitter in the WH (as well as getting tens of thousands of MAGA sexts from Karen’s across our fine nation).

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3 hours ago, Satchel said:

And there’s this:

 

Former Republican congressman Adam Kinzinger has lashed out at President Donald Trump for his lenient approach to Russia's invasion of Ukraine , branding him a "scared, trembling, sissy, husk of a man." 

Kinzinger, who served as a lieutenant colonel in the Air National Guard and is now a senior political commentator for CNN, posted a lengthy and scathing critique of President Trump on X. On Wednesday, Trump suggested it was "unlikely" that Ukraine would reclaim the territory it has lost since 2014, stating that Russia "fought for that land and they lost a lot of soldiers". 

In response, Kinzinger wrote: "Trump is surrendering America. Trump is the opposite of strong. He is a tiny, weak, small, scared, trembling, sissy, husk of a man. There is nothing manly about his fat, sweaty, smelly, gross, makeup'ed self. An absolute joke." Trump's comments have sparked outrage, particularly from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who, after being excluded from US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia, accused the U.S. president of "living in a disinformation space" controlled by Moscow.

These Republican congress critters sure do get brave once they no longer have any influence.  Adam voted with Trump 99% of the time during Trumps 1st 2 years in office.  He and his newly found spine can go fuck themselves.

Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump | FiveThirtyEight

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On 4/18/2018 at 8:36 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

1) Except the, ‘Russia, if you’re listening, thing. 

2) and the Manafort thing,

3) and the Flynn thing,

4) and the Papadopoulos pleading guilty thing,

5) and the Roger Stone thing,

6) and the Cohen thing,

7) and the Kushner thing,

😎 and the Carter Page thing,

9) and the Jeff Sessions things,

10) and the Wilbur Ross thing,

11) and the JD Gordon thing,

12) and the Erik Prince thing,

13) and the James Comey firing thing,

14) and the Russian hacking/Wikileaks thing,

15) and the bro-love between TrumpPutin thing,

16) and the Russian propaganda machine favoring Trump thing,

17) and the DJT "I have zero ties to Russia!" thing,

18) and the Eric Trump "we get most of our financing from Russian banks thing",

19) and the Donald Trump Jr. "Our portfolio is made up of a disproportionate amount of Russian money" thing,

20) and the DJT "I sold a $60 million mansion to a Russian oligarch known for money laundering for $120 million that he never once lived in" thing,

21) and the Trump business ties with Putin's favorite sports athlete Fedor Emilianenko thing,

22) and the Trump International Corporation's mysterious private server connection to Alfa Bank, Russia's largest commercial bank thing,

23) and the Special prosecutor being named thing,

24) and the I won't release my tax returns thing,

25) and the Ivanka Trump's vacationing with Putin's girlfriend thing,

26) and the 2013 Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow thing,

27) and the Trump companies business ties to Felix Sater, a criminal felon indicted for stock fraud scheme with the Russian mafia thing,

28) and the FL Group Icelandic hedge fund with massive ties to Putin being heavily invested in Trump Soho thing,

29) and the Rex Tillerson/Exxon ties to Russia thing,

30) and the Russian ambassador at Trump Tower sneaking in and out thing,

31) and the Trump tried to roll back Russian sanctions the minute he got elected thing.

32) Other than that, there's absolutely no reason to suspect anything. 

Wait there’s more, 

33) And the money laundering thing.

34) And the sex hush money payoffs thing.

35) And the signing of the proposal for Trump Hotel Moscow thing.

36) And the meetings in the White House with Russians thing

37) And the firing of Sally Yates thing.

38) And the hacked States voting thing. 

39) and the meeting with the Russian lawyer about “adoption” thing.

40) And then the lying about it with a statement crafted by the White House thing.

41) And the Deripaska sanctioned yet entering the USA on a diplomats visa thing.

42) And the changing the GOP platform on Ukraine to be more favorable to Russia thing. 

43) And, the ‘mother’ of all things: not implementing sanctions which passed the Senate 98-2 and House 419-3 in violation of the Take Care Clause (Article 2, Section 3) thing.  

44) And the Russian banker giving money to NRA to support Trump thing

45) And the Russian intelligence is now peddling a fake Trump tape to sow new chaos in American political discourse thing.

46) And the David Bogatin buying Trump properties for over $6mil with no verifiable income and tied to Semion Mogilvich, who is so successful at money laundering he gets the name "The Brainy Don" thing. 

47) And the Trump Taj Mahal being fined $10 mil for not adhering to money laundering laws thing. 

48) And the Rudy Giuliani thing. 

49) And the "(sanctioned) heads of all 3 Russian intelligence agencies  allowed into US to secretly meet with CIA director Pompeo and DNI Coats, days before Trump blew off sanctions" thing.

50) And Misha Flynn's "US-Russia nuclear proliferation in the Middle East" thing. 

51) And the, ‘I love Wikileaks’ thing. 

And the, ‘Rusher’ Lester Holt interview thing. 

52) And the, Jeff Sessions, I didn’t meet with any Russians, but he did, thing. 

53) and the Russians at the National Prayer Service thing

54) and the Felix Sater thing 

55) The Kilimnik thing.  

56) And the Simon Kukes thing. 

57) And the yucking it up with Russians in the Oval Office after firing ‘nut-job’ Comey, and thinking it was over, thing. 

 

57) And the wild-eyed Devin Nunes bogus memo run, but the Conservative FBI is somehow the problem, thing. 

58) And the Rob Goldstone talking to Mueller thing. 

59) And the Gates, in negotiations with Mueller without his lawyers, thing. 

60) And the Bannon won’t talk to Congress, but is going to talk to Mueller thing.

61) And the meetings with Putin without  an American recorder present thing.

62) And the defending of Putin when O’Reilly calls him a killer thing.

63)And the “Won’t release White House visitor logs” thing. 

And the "Don't keep visitor logs at Mar-A-Lago" thing. 

64) And the Kushner asking for a direct line to the Kremlin at the Russian Embassy thing.

65) And the “Putin and I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, and many other negative things, will be guarded and safe” tweet thing.  

66) And the Deutsche Bank records thing. 

67) And the House majority leader, McCarthy says to colleagues in 2016: ‘I think Putin pays’ Trump and Ryan says “No leaks. . . . This is how we know we're a real family here." thing.  

68) And the firing of Preet Bharara thing.

69) And the Russians getting a “no bid” contract to build our embassy there-so they can assure electronic surveillance

is embedded carefully-thing. 

 

70) And the attempt to discredit a career spy, held in high regard in the intel community, to discredit the dossier thing.  

71) And the revealing of sensitive material about Syria/ISIS to the Russians thing. 

72) And the refusal to release the Democrats’ memo, cleared by intel agencies on security grounds, after releasing the ‘flagged’ Republican memo, thing. 

73) And the Roman Abramovich, Russian steel owner (with whom Kushner met with several times according to his *revised* security clearance application) has docked his ship off the shore of Florida, when Trump was at Mar-a-Largo, thing.  

74) And Americans keep learning about Putin-Trump conversations from the Kremlin (Putin said he and Trump “spoke about the Palestinian-Israeli settlement.” on the phone today. No readout yet from White House) thing. 

75) And for the 8th time Kremlin (not the Administration) told us Trump spoke with Putin by phone thing. 

AND we learned that Putin told Palestine that Trump told him he could negotiate on America's behalf, thing. 

76) And the Trump takes two abandoned 747s off of Aeroflot's hands for the next Air Force One, relieving the Kremlin of its $750 million obligation to Boeing thing. 

77) And the German Woman at the Center of the Manafort Case with Russian contacts who may have serve as the strawman for illegal lobbying in the United States thing.

78) And the Russians giving the NRA money thing. 

79) And releasing the Nunes memo thing. 

80) And the refusing to release the Democrats rebuttal memo thing. 

81) And the trying to discredit the FBI thing. 

82) And the forcing McCabe out thing. 

83) And the ‘my lawyers won’t let me testify’ thing.

84) And the ‘my taxes are under audit so I can’t release them’ thing.

85) And the Alex van der Zwaan lying to prosecutors about a conversation with Rick Gates thing.

86) And the charges against Richard Pinedo in exchange for cooperating thing.

87) And now Mueller is investigating Manafort for promising Calk a WH job in exchange for a $16M personal loan thing.

88) And the per NBC, Trump has told friends he'd be in trouble if Paul Manafort "flipped" on him thing.

89) And the Kushner Security Clearance being held up by the Mueller Investigation thing.

90) And the Dem memo that confirmed that both the F.B.I. and D.O.J. made extensive showings to justify all four FISA requests thing.

91) And the son-in-law had to have his security clearance removed thing.

92) And the China, UAE, Israel, and Mexico plotting how to manipulate the son-in-law thing.

93) And the Hope Hicks refusing to answer the questions of the Intelligence Committee thing.

94) And the Roger Stone lying to Congress about WikiLeaks thing.

95) And the 20 Gates indictments dropped by Mueller for cooperating thing.

96) And the changing the Republican platform thing. 

97) And the not authorizing NSA to do *anything* to prevent hacking of Midterm Elections thing.

98) And the Hope Hicks’ ‘White Lies’ and quits thing.

99) And the Kushner gets his Security Clearance downgraded because he dealt with Russia thing.

100) And the Nunberg decides to comply-after he adamantly wasn’t gonna comply-to the Mueller subpoena thing.

101) And the Kremlin wanted Tillerson instead of Romney thing,

102) And the Trump’s demand for a Kremlinesque Military Parade thing.

103) And the George Nader (UAE foreign agent) thing.

104) And the Trump asking witnesses what they discussed with Mueller thing.

105) And the firing of Tillerson thing.

106) And the vindictive firing of McCabe thing.

107) And the congratulating Putin for ‘winning’ a sham election after Putin poisoned and framed his opponent thing.

108) And the alleged mobster Felix Sater ‘told family he knows he and POTUS are going to prison’ thing.

109) And the Trump Fundraiser, Elliott Brody’s offer to help lift sanctions on Russian Firms thing.

110) And the Corallo attorneys couldn’t represent Trump due to conflicts of interest thing.

111) And the Rick Gates contact with Alex van der Zwaan (an associate of Paul Manafort with ties to the Russian intelligence service, GRU) in 2016 thing.

112) And the Malloch being served with a subpoena to appear before the grand jury thing.

113) And The Kremlin revealed that Trump proposed inviting Putin to DC during the March 20th phone call thing. 

Reminder: there was zero mention of the Russian nerve agent attack on British soil nor any warnings to Russia to stop attacking our infrastructure thing.

114) And the Attorney Alex van der Zwaan sentenced to 30 days in prison for lying to investigators who were looking into Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort thing.

115) And the Cohen got raided by the FBI thing.

116) And the Dana Boente’s handwritten notes after talking to James Comey thing.

117) And the Trump's personal lawyer was working out of the Squire, Patton & Boggs law offices, who just HAPPEN to be lawyers for Cambridge  Analytica, AND are main lobbyists for Russia's Gazprom oil company thing. 

118) And the letting Bolton in the White House without security clearance.

119) And the Trump asking Comey to consider investigating the "pee tape" allegations in order to "reassure Melania" that they were untrue thing.

120) And the Cohen lied about going to Prague in the summer of 2016 thing.

121) And the back channel assurance to the Kremlin there would be no new sanctions thing

122) And the Manafort was stated as being a Kremlin back channel in court thing.

And to think some people doubted you.

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