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3 hours ago, Doc Daneeka said:

This nonsense will go stratospheric when they beat TCU. 


I want to go to that game. Let’s do a surly meet up where someone gets me a free ticket and free tailgate party I can attend

if you have a single and mental SIL for me to meet, that would be great 

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6 minutes ago, Irieguy said:

Each recruiting class has 300 four and five star players. So there are probably 1,200 total between recruits and current players. I don’t believe for a second that 17% of them reached out to Deion. 

You're being "Well Actually" guy.

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:


I want to go to that game. Let’s do a surly meet up where someone gets me a free ticket and free tailgate party I can attend

if you have a single and mental SIL for me to meet, that would be great 

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Each recruiting class has 300 four and five star players. So there are probably 1,200 total between recruits and current players. I don’t believe for a second that 17% of them reached out to Deion. 

I’m calling bullshit as well. If they wanted to play for him, why weren’t they beating down the door of Jackson State?
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28 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


I’m calling bullshit as well. If they wanted to play for him, why weren’t they beating down the door of Jackson State?

Can’t wrap your head around that one??? Let me give you a start.

Jackson water crisis flows from century of poverty, neglect and racism

https://mississippitoday.org/2022/11/07/jackson-water-crisis-poverty-neglect-racism/

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53 minutes ago, SarkAfterDark said:

A lot of people want Deion to fail for no real reason besides hating a guy they don't even no personally. I hope he succeeds, I also hope they beat TCU. Not sure why anyone here would be rooting for TCU to win that game.

I don’t think anybody hates Deion. The hype is annoying. I think we can all understand rooting for the overblown hype articles to go away. 

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56 minutes ago, Irieguy said:

I don’t think anybody hates Deion. The hype is annoying. I think we can all understand rooting for the overblown hype articles to go away. 

This. "The kids love him! They want to play for him! Over 600 5 star players have been in contact about playing for him!"

 

Just stop. Let it play out. He's either a good football coach or he's not. And "the kids just loving him so much" will have little or nothing to do with it.

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4 hours ago, Irieguy said:

Each recruiting class has 300 four and five star players. So there are probably 1,200 total between recruits and current players. I don’t believe for a second that 17% of them reached out to Deion. 

Yeah, that article is an exaggeration.

Deion is getting more attention for Colorado, but he's certainly got a lot of work ahead for him to make them competitive again...

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24/7 Colorado  

Out of 247 HS recruits signed by Colorado ranked by 24/7 (so clever of them!), Sanders is responsible for 3 of the Top 25 already, less than a month into his tenure. He has a '25 commit that would be Top 3 and a '24 commit that would be Top 15.

I don't see him threatening Top 10 programs in terms of recruiting now, but any staff in the bottom 80% of P5 not taking Deion seriously is whistling past the graveyard.

I can understand people being annoyed by the hype, but this is fun as hell to me. The whole college game gets more fun if Deion keeps this recruiting trajectory and improves Colorado on the field, which seems inevitable.

And the Shadeur-for-Heisman shit is laughable, but I'll smile through the whole ridiculous sham.

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I mean so far the recruiting results have been pretty meh to be honest. Yes he did better than CU did the past two seasons but it wasnt like he blew away some historical norms.

I figured he would clean house in the transfer portal but even that has all been lateral moves for the players or upgrades as he poached his old JSU lineup. So far he had one LB transfer in from Clemson.

Will Colorado be better next year? Yes but that is a low bar to cross. Is he going to set the world on fire as he takes college football by storm? Not so much.

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3 hours ago, Pimphand said:

I mean so far the recruiting results have been pretty meh to be honest. Yes he did better than CU did the past two seasons but it wasnt like he blew away some historical norms.

I figured he would clean house in the transfer portal but even that has all been lateral moves for the players or upgrades as he poached his old JSU lineup. So far he had one LB transfer in from Clemson.

Will Colorado be better next year? Yes but that is a low bar to cross. Is he going to set the world on fire as he takes college football by storm? Not so much.

True, the results have been disappointing so far. However, I assume transfers can come in throughout the off-season. 

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7 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

True, the results have been disappointing so far. However, I assume transfers can come in throughout the off-season. 

Yeah it's not done by any stretch but still it hasn't been anything close to the hype.  The notion he is going to cause them to change the transfer portal rules hasn't manifest.

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“I think what’s going on at Colorado has changed the game,” one Big 12 collective operator said. “Deion Sanders had 200 four and five-star players reach out to him in 12 hours after he took the job. They’re not asking anything about NIL. They just want to play for him.

 

On 12/29/2022 at 6:03 AM, Pimphand said:

I mean so far the recruiting results have been pretty meh to be honest. Yes he did better than CU did the past two seasons but it wasnt like he blew away some historical norms.

I figured he would clean house in the transfer portal but even that has all been lateral moves for the players or upgrades as he poached his old JSU lineup. So far he had one LB transfer in from Clemson.

Will Colorado be better next year? Yes but that is a low bar to cross. Is he going to set the world on fire as he takes college football by storm? Not so much.

The first quote about 4&5* players not caring about NIL is horseshit. There is too much money floating around established NIL schools for those guys to blow off getting paid. And its been what, 6 weeks, since he got the gig at CU? You aren't going to see a huge migration to Boulder unless/until they figure out a way to get that money really flowing, and that probably takes more than a few weeks. 

If they do figure it out, it wont be long before Deion will be winning a lot of those living room battles. If they don't, his time there will likely be short....probably one "herman" or less, and he will move onto some other school that has the money infrastructure in place. 

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Deion Sanders reportedly wants Colorado roster to be 80 percent transfers

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David Ubben of The Athletic has a great story on Colorado's months-long courtship of Deion Sanders, which began with CU's Oct. 2 firing of Karl Dorrell and concluded almost two months to the day later, with CU announcing Coach Prime as its 28th head coach on Dec. 3.

Within that pursuit, Sanders explained his philosophy to roster building at Colorado, which was identical to how he built 

Sanders, however, recruited his roster to Jackson State without the backing of a deep-pocketed collective, and with George sitting in his home, Sanders laid out his vision that was similar to what he’d done in Jackson. Sanders refers to it as his 40-40-20 model.

That’s a roster made up of 40 percent graduate transfers, 40 percent undergraduate transfers and 20 percent high school signees.

On an 85-man roster, that would mean 34 graduate transfers, 34 undergraduate transfers, and 17 high school signees.

Sanders' actions, though, indicate the numbers will actually be closer to a 50-50 split between transfers of all kinds and high school recruits. 

Colorado announced 24 newcomers in the December signing period: 14 high school recruits, two junior college signees, and eight transfers. The 247Sports database lists Colorado with 41 new acquisitions -- 16 directly from high school. The Buffaloes are also in hot pursuit of 5-star cornerback Cormani McClain, an unsigned Miami commit. 

If the Buffs land McClain, the 40-40-20 model would leave no more room for high school recruits unless and until one of a 2023 high school signee leaves Boulder. But Colorado already has three high school pledges for its 2024 class and one for 2025, with more certainly on the way. 

So while the 40-40-20 model may look good on a PowerPoint deck, Sanders's actions indicate he will allocate more than 20 percent of his scholarships toward high school recruits. Which, to be clear, places him in line with just about every other FBS head coach. 

247Sports lists Colorado's transfer class (23 players as of this writing) at No. 3 in FBS, and its overall 41-man haul of signees and transfers at No. 24. For what it's worth, Colorado ranked No. 58 in 2022, while Jackson State was far-and-away the No. 1 FCS team in the rankings. 

What's clear is that Coach Prime will make no apologies about pursuing the best players available, through any avenues available. "I'm bringing my luggage," he memorably told Colorado's returning players in his first team meeting back in early December, "and it's Louis." 

 

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9 minutes ago, slorch said:

"it's not about NIL"

Everything in the history of his career has been about cash/ the grift.  I'm betting it will continue to be so.

I don’t know if I’d call Jackson State (300k a year and evidently pumped a lot of his own money into the program) or his coaching in Dallas at the high school level being about money.  

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3 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

I don’t know if I’d call Jackson State (300k a year and evidently pumped a lot of his own money into the program) or his coaching in Dallas at the high school level being about money.  

google the high school thingy again.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2130924-prime-prep-academy-co-founded-by-deion-sanders-reportedly-shut-down-by-state

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3 minutes ago, slorch said:

google the high school thingy again.

Yea he didn’t know how to start a school or hire the right people in that deal but it was far from a money making venture for him, he put more money into it then he got out of it.  He’s worth 45 million, non of that or Jackson State was a huge money maker for him.  

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11 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

Yea he didn’t know how to start a school or hire the right people in that deal but it was far from a money making venture for him, he put more money into it then he got out of it.  He’s worth 45 million, non of that or Jackson State was a huge money maker for him.  

Sounds like you're talking your way into trusting Deion.  That's fine; but there's PLENTY of indicators to the contrary.  You don't have to believe em if you don't want to.  Grifters often change their ways.  See it all the time.

He had all of that personal capital to invest in the best school administrators he could find.  You know and I know that this was not remotely in the universe of the mission of that program.

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13 minutes ago, slorch said:

Sounds like you're talking your way into trusting Deion.  That's fine; but there's PLENTY of indicators to the contrary.  You don't have to believe em if you don't want to.  Grifters often change their ways.  See it all the time.

He has blame for sure but I don’t see your point about everything has been about money. He’s been coaching basically for free for fifteen years and has definitely done plenty of good things for kids. Trying to start a school might have been a bit too ambitious and he had no clue what he was doing but I don’t see how he was grifting anyone from that when he took pretty much no money from it. 
 

 

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28 minutes ago, slorch said:

Sounds like you're talking your way into trusting Deion.

It has nothing to do with trust. The reality of Prime Prep is that it wasn't a money-maker for Deion. No matter what you think of his character, there wasn't cash in it for him. Bringing a bunch of little league players to his HOF induction wasn't a money move. Jackson State wasn't even a money move @ about $300k/year for way too much work.

That's not trusting Deion (whatever that means) or think he's a selfless philanthropist, it's just a numbers thing.

It's just funny to say "Oh yeah he coached a bunch of young inner city kids to get rich" as if that makes any damned sense.

 

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Prime Prep Academy was about funneling talent( i.e. cash) through his school.  It had fucking zero to do with any philanthropy on Deion's part.

Y'all seem naïve AF, especially given the evidence.

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2 hours ago, closetohumping said:

@closetojumping show yourself 

???

1 hour ago, Blotto said:

 

The first quote about 4&5* players not caring about NIL is horseshit. There is too much money floating around established NIL schools for those guys to blow off getting paid. And its been what, 6 weeks, since he got the gig at CU? You aren't going to see a huge migration to Boulder unless/until they figure out a way to get that money really flowing, and that probably takes more than a few weeks. 

 

Yeah, this was bullshit. Besides it being obviously bullshit, guys that cover the sport have also said it is pure bullshit. 

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On 12/29/2022 at 6:03 AM, Pimphand said:

I mean so far the recruiting results have been pretty meh to be honest. Yes he did better than CU did the past two seasons but it wasnt like he blew away some historical norms.

I figured he would clean house in the transfer portal but even that has all been lateral moves for the players or upgrades as he poached his old JSU lineup. So far he had one LB transfer in from Clemson.

Will Colorado be better next year? Yes but that is a low bar to cross. Is he going to set the world on fire as he takes college football by storm? Not so much.

Have you looked at his social media?  He puts out a huge amount of content every day.  Up until now, a lot of it just seemed like him grifting from local business for free meals, pedicures, real estate agents, and others just plain giving him stuff in return for putting them on his social media.  I bet the dude hasn't paid for a meal since high school.  Other times its just him and his homies cutting it up in his newly decorated office.  My real point is that he does not give the impression of someone who likes to "work".  Seems inspirational only and leaves everything else up to the assistant coaches.  His staff is not that accomplished so I am curious how they will do.  

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It has nothing to do with trust. The reality of Prime Prep is that it wasn't a money-maker for Deion. No matter what you think of his character, there wasn't cash in it for him. Bringing a bunch of little league players to his HOF induction wasn't a money move. Jackson State wasn't even a money move @ about $300k/year for way too much work.
That's not trusting Deion (whatever that means) or think he's a selfless philanthropist, it's just a numbers thing.
It's just funny to say "Oh yeah he coached a bunch of young inner city kids to get rich" as if that makes any damned sense.
 

Hold on. Prime prep wasn’t a money maker because it failed. That was absolutely his goal. Are you that naive to think he was doing that just to try to help some community?
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28 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

???

Yeah, this was bullshit. Besides it being obviously bullshit, guys that cover the sport have also said it is pure bullshit. 

If you look at the video Sanders posted yesterday where he is asking all the players "why they were there" one of his transfers says "NIL so I can support my kid".

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4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Have you looked at his social media?  He puts out a huge amount of content every day.  Up until now, a lot of it just seemed like him grifting from local business for free meals, pedicures, real estate agents, and others just plain giving him stuff in return for putting them on his social media.  I bet the dude hasn't paid for a meal since high school.  Other times its just him and his homies cutting it up in his newly decorated office.  My real point is that he does not give the impression of someone who likes to "work".  Seems inspirational only and leaves everything else up to the assistant coaches.  His staff is not that accomplished so I am curious how they will do.  


I think his oldest son runs his social media 

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43 minutes ago, slorch said:

Y'all seem naïve AF, especially given the evidence.

You seem like you have an axe to grind with Deion. He's at the very least shown that he can put talent together and win football games. Seeing as the former is like 60% of the requisite for winning at the FBS level I'm imagining he does okay at CU.

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