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Anyone saying this game was anything other than a massive accomplishment for Sanders and the CU program is a moron. 

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Deion Sanders is a thin-skinned, grifting, insecure, 57-year-old man adorned in jewelry and excess to fill the massive emotional void that not even a hall of fame NFL career could fill and is so easil

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Maybe the $woosh will heal his ouchie.
would buy again (shoe, not over on Colorado or that gaudy chain)
 

They should’ve dressed up with some CU or Buffs logo to bring that back. I’m disappointed in Nike and their efforts on this.

Hell, I’d buy a pair if it had something like that, even though I’m not a Buffs fan.

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On 7/15/2023 at 9:53 AM, Dennis Taylor said:

Report: Disgruntled guy buried on the Bama depth chart leaves and says he likes his new place better.  For now. 

This is like when Tyreek said Tua was more accurate than Mahomes.  I don’t care what context it was in…it’s idiotic.  

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15 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Venables strolls into Norman and promptly leads the dick gobblers to their worst season in like 25 years. Maybe if Deion studies the 2022 OU game film extra hard, he too can figure out a way to get to 6 wins. 

Def some cripple fight vibes with this one.  

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What in the fuck is Venables doing with all of this shit talking? He mocked Cristobal about a 45-3 loss to FSU without a hint of understanding that he'd lost to OU's rival by a worse score in the same season. Now he's preaching moral superiority over Deion Sanders for how he's running off players versus how Sanders did it. It's utterly bizarre. It's also gratifying to see him constantly stepping on his dick.

Venables has never been the main guy before and, not only does it show, it's also obvious that he's got zero self-awareness about how idiotic he's coming across to everyone else. 

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

What in the fuck is Venables doing with all of this shit talking? He mocked Cristobal about a 45-3 loss to FSU without a hint of understanding that he'd lost to OU's rival by a worse score in the same season. Now he's preaching moral superiority over Deion Sanders for how he's running off players versus how Sanders did it. It's utterly bizarre. It's also gratifying to see him constantly stepping on his dick.

Venables has never been the main guy before and, not only does it show, it's also obvious that he's got zero self-awareness about how idiotic he's coming across to everyone else. 

Im all about it.  Flame out fast or do something impressive.  Seems there’s not gonna be any in-between.  He’s getting talent so he can be John Blake.  Or maybe OU wanders the desert for 15 years like you guys.  I wouldn’t bet on it but OU fans are spoiled and stupid, as you know as well as anyone.  

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Im all about it.  Flame out fast or do something impressive.  Seems there’s not gonna be any in-between.  He’s getting talent so he can be John Blake.  Or maybe OU wanders the desert for 15 years like you guys.  I wouldn’t bet on it but OU fans are spoiled and stupid, as you know as well as anyone.  

You either deep throat the fire hose or get destroyed by it. 

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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

What in the fuck is Venables doing with all of this shit talking? He mocked Cristobal about a 45-3 loss to FSU without a hint of understanding that he'd lost to OU's rival by a worse score in the same season. Now he's preaching moral superiority over Deion Sanders for how he's running off players versus how Sanders did it. It's utterly bizarre. It's also gratifying to see him constantly stepping on his dick.

Venables has never been the main guy before and, not only does it show, it's also obvious that he's got zero self-awareness about how idiotic he's coming across to everyone else. 

He’s a meathead.   Looks like one. Acts like one

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Im all about it.  Flame out fast or do something impressive.  Seems there’s not gonna be any in-between.  He’s getting talent so he can be John Blake.  Or maybe OU wanders the desert for 15 years like you guys.  I wouldn’t bet on it but OU fans are spoiled and stupid, as you know as well as anyone.  

While OU isn't Ohio State in terms of sustained success over the last 100+ years, I would not be surprised if you guys weren't second or third in terms of consistent performance. I fall into the trap of my football fantasies sometimes thinking "OU is due to have a long slump of seasons" but that's only happened once in my lifetime. Football is simply too important to the university, I guess. Who knows, but fuck you guys for it.

Regarding bringing in talent, I went through this in some depth on one of the recruiting threads so most folks would have missed it, but there's risk in the on-field performance not being comparable to where the class rankings would indicate. The 2023 class looks a lot like late stage Mack-Chuckles-Herman era classes for Texas. Top heavy with some real talent, a mediocre middle, and then some real WTF?!? type guys at the bottom.

I discussed this offline with some buddies that have been covering the sport for a long ass time and both of them concurred. Either Venables and crew are just flat out better at evaluating than everyone else, or they're just adding bodies to fill the roster because numerous guys didn't have film with weak offer and visit lists, or were highly ranked early and then fell considerably. Not like 1-2 but like 10+ guys in the class.

We'll see how much of that view is me wishcasting and how much is real. One of the guys that started off highly ranked and none of the regional powers pushed hard for has already left the OU program. Another guy in the bottom of the class that didn't even have film has also already left or went juco due to grades (couldn't get into OU? WTF?). Losing 2 guys in a class before they've even seen a season start is just weird.

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While OU isn't Ohio State in terms of sustained success over the last 100+ years, I would not be surprised if you guys weren't second or third in terms of consistent performance. I fall into the trap of my football fantasies sometimes thinking "OU is due to have a long slump of seasons" but that's only happened once in my lifetime. Football is simply too important to the university, I guess. Who knows, but fuck you guys for it.

Regarding bringing in talent, I went through this in some depth on one of the recruiting threads so most folks would have missed it, but there's risk in the on-field performance not being comparable to where the class rankings would indicate. The 2023 class looks a lot like late stage Mack-Chuckles-Herman era classes for Texas. Top heavy with some real talent, a mediocre middle, and then some real WTF?!? type guys at the bottom.

I discussed this offline with some buddies that have been covering the sport for a long ass time and both of them concurred. Either Venables and crew are just flat out better at evaluating than everyone else, or they're just adding bodies to fill the roster because numerous guys didn't have film with weak offer and visit lists, or were highly ranked early and then fell considerably. Not like 1-2 but like 10+ guys in the class.

We'll see how much of that view is me wishcasting and how much is real. One of the guys that started off highly ranked and none of the regional powers pushed hard for has already left the OU program. Another guy in the bottom of the class that didn't even have film has also already left or went juco due to grades (couldn't get into OU? WTF?). Losing 2 guys in a class before they've even seen a season start is just weird.

No argument here.  You’re spot on.  I’m saying the talent part assuming they close these 5 stars they supposedly lead for - that’s a huge assumption.  Also Stoops/LR tended to coach up a lot of players and/or they had a superior system to plug guys into.  Obviously BV hasn’t shown any of that.  
 

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No argument here.  You’re spot on.  I’m saying the talent part assuming they close these 5 stars they supposedly lead for - that’s a huge assumption.  Also Stoops/LR tended to coach up a lot of players and/or they had a superior system to plug guys into.  Obviously BV hasn’t shown any of that.  
 

My view is that Stoops and crew were excellent at evaluating talent and then developing players. He always took guys in each class from Texas or Florida or California that the local powers didn't recruit or prioritize and then those players wound up far exceeding their rankings from HS. Riley's system on offense is just superior to the marketplace. Both situations drove me insane.

The guys I mentioned were LeBlanc and Keyon Brown. Went and found the write-up, which I'll spoiler here, but this OU 2023 recruiting class breakdown is perhaps the single greatest thing to have ever happened to this Colorado football thread:

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OU took a top heavy class, with what is considered real firepower at the top and a bunch of lowly ranked headscratchers at the middle and bottom. It's not nearly as Texas heavy as their classes have been historically, taking only 5 from the state, 3 of whom are from Denton and that might as well be in Oklahoma. 

Venables has issues with his roster. They had a bunch of transfers out, so they took 13 transfers in, and signed 26 guys. Okies here and elsewhere seem to believe that the transfers they lost needed to go, and the ones they brought in immediately improve their whole team. I've seen the same sentiment with this class. That said, as one of my buddies involved with CFB for a living told me, "Ol'Brent must think he's going to be at OU for a good long while, because there is going to need to be a lot of development in that class. A LOT of development."

In all, OU signed 1 QB, 2 TBs, 2 WRs (maybe a 3rd, depending upon where an ATH winds up), 1 TE, 2 Ts, 3 IOLs. For those keeping score at home, that's likely 11 of the 26 signees for the offense. 4 of the OLs are flat out projects, as is the TE. On defense, they signed 2 Edge, 3 DTs (all projects), 4 LBs, at least 3 of whom are projects and 2 are total unknowns, 1 Nickel who thinks he's a CB, 1 juco CB, 1 ATH that is a better WR than CB but given Venables' proclivities and the dearth of CBs in this class, will probably be a CB, and then 4 fucking safeties, 2 of whom could wind up being stars and the other 2 loaded with yeast and flour. That's 15 recruits out of 26 for the D. Strong balance there, Brent.

On the recruits:

Jackson Arnold (QB): A typical overranked Denton Guyer QB who is undersized, not particularly fast and criticized for not being very inventive to make up for his size, but OU wanted him and, hey, they produce Heisman trophy winning QBs, so he shot up the rankings. OU fans think he's the savior, and gurus compare him to Baker Mayfield because ... of course. Also, he has the smirk of a fratboy date rapist who gets away with it because his parents can afford good lawyers. This is the perfect OU QB recruit. Several friends not involved with the rankings but involved with the space think he's way overranked.

PJ Adebawore (Edge): A camp circuit favorite with a giant wingspan for his size. Stood out at the UA game in drills. Has the potential to be the best OU pass rusher since I don't even know. I would take him over every Edge Texas has taken in the last two classes.

Peyton Bowen (S): A standout at safety with excellent speed and athleticism. A known ballhawk and playmaker. He's also a head case who knew for the better part of 6 months that he wasn't actually going to sign with Notre Dame while lying to them the entire time and sniffing around OU and ATM repeatedly. Takes the money and runs to Oregon before his mother intervened and made him sign with OU, because a deal is a deal. We'll see how he handles the Bradley Buzzcut treatment once on campus. He seems to have a super strong backbone.

Sam Omosigho (LB): This guy is an explosive athlete with a big wingspan for his size. He's considered a project. He's from Texas, yet most Texas schools weren't involved with his recruitment, including Texas and ATM. I don't know if that means he wasn't interested or they know shit that no one else does. He was an excellent receiver and he put up big numbers on both sides of the ball. He finished highly ranked and yet most folks on this board know dick-all about the guy. He was a better WR than LB in HS.

Makari Vickers (S): If you haven't seen his film, think of Kramer at the kid karate classes on Seinfeld. He's another playmaker at safety and is an excellent tackler with good size. He won't be 18 until the summer. He wasn't as heavily recruited as I would have figured in his region, although all of the big boys nearby offered except Miami.

Jaquaize Pettaway (WR): He's a very fast, slightly-built WR with spotty hands. He'll never add a bunch of weight with his frame. He chose OU over Texas and he fits the sooner personality profile perfectly. By that, I mean he's apparently a cocky asshole that mixes like oil with water when it comes to hanging out with good kids who will graduate. Johntay Cook didn't like the guy and he liked everybody. I cheer against all sooners, but I'll be actively cheering against this dude.

Cayden Green (T/IOL): In the classic sense of the way OU teaches their OL - to hold like motherfuckers and dare refs to call it more than once in a game - this guy could be their GOAT when it is all said and done. In his film, he lays down with more small, fat white boys than the Omega Mu's. He's undersized, so to speak, to be considered a terrific LT prospect. He's 6'4" and his wingspan is small for his size. I assume he'll get looks at RT and may be eventually moved inside. 

Jacobe Johnson (ATH): He'd be big for corner and would be a project there, but has everything else. He's already a good WR. He comes into the class at the same age as the sophomores on the roster. He's ranked really high in the consensus rankings because ESPN loves the guy, so, caveat emptor. I wasn't blown away by his film. The offensive highlights consist of him winning a bunch of jump balls against smaller DBs. The defensive highlights consist of him being soft in press and recovering to make plays on the ball. 

Lewis Carter (LB): He hits like a ton of fucking bricks, so you have to like that. He's not particularly fast or big. He was lightly recruited or ignored by most recruiting powers in the southeast. OU landed the guy over UCF and to a lesser degree a Harsin-led Auburn and Butterteeth's NIL-less UNC. He didn't make camps. He's got an inflated ranking because OU basically took the guy and he's from Florida. I can see no other reason for his rating after watching the film and asking around.

Kendal Dolby (CB, Juco): There are operational leaders for international terror organizations with more photographs and information available on the Internet about them than this guy. His film footage consists of jump ball picks, running in the wrong direction in pass coverage, multiple helmet headshots against defenseless receivers and a bunch of arm tackles, all shown from roughly two miles away by drone footage. It's hilariously dark shit as an opposing fan. Either OU stole an unknown gem here or he's cannon fodder as they try to find answers on defense.

Derrick Leblanc (DL): Can play DE or DT. Flashed early in high school, got a lot of attention, and then didn't progress further as he aged. UF and Miami stayed on him, many other schools fell off. He's not super athletic and isn't strong against the run. Also, he looks like he's part of a zombie apocalypse in recruiting headshots. 

Jasiah Wagoner (Nickel): Some say OU recruited him as a CB when other schools told him he was a nickel. He'll be a nickel, or we'll be happy to see him at CB. He's not incredibly fast. His size is mediocre. He's quick and was an offensive standout in HS as well. In the early Stoops era, the right kind of this type used to irritate the shit out of everyone. In the late Riley/early Venables era, we love seeing this type of guy on the field as they've been weak spots. It will be interesting to see which way this one ultimately leans.

Daylan Smothers (TB): He's a small but tough runner that numerous regional (NC area) offensive powers were in on. Has good hands. He's not bread, but he's not the normal top 100 TB that OU usually lands. This is the kind of guy who is really good for NC State but doesn't make the depth chart for UF or NC. 

Keyon Brown (WR): Tall but slow WR out of Florida. Jeff Lebby is recruiting on offense as though he's still at UCF. This guy is bread that no one locally wanted. OU had to fend off a fierce push from ... Nebraska to keep this guy. 

Daeh I-Have-A-Good-Older-Brother-That-Plays-Edge-And-Will-Transfer-To-Your-School-If-You-Take-Me McCullough (S): This guy played HS ball in South Bend and Notre Dame didn't offer. He wasn't nationally ranked by a single service. His older brother transferred in from Indiana after putting up good numbers there.

Logan Howland (T): This guy is lowly ranked out of NJ and he didn't do the camp circuit. He's very tall and will need to add good weight. Beyond OU, he officially visited Michigan, Iowa, and Miami. Guys who know what they're doing on the OL were all over this guy. He chose to go to the school with the worst recent development history for OLs among the four (if you consider Cristobal back through Oregon). 

Joshua Bates (G): The fat kid from the movie "The Sandlot" should have garnered more attention for his fame if nothing else. OU was the only school of any FBS merit to recruit the guy, so they saw something they liked or he's Bedenbough's love child and he owed his mom a favor.

Kalib Hicks (TB): He's plain as grits. Average size, decent moves, no burst, no breakaway speed, put up decent numbers for a Texas powerhouse program. His nickname should be "Vanilla".

Phil Picciotti (LB): His film looks like a set of snippets from Lattimer in practices from The Program. If he stays on the roids, maybe he can provide help at Mike someday. He has the lateral quickness of a dairy cow. His film includes a lot of plays where he runs full speed ahead and attempts to simply run directly through another human being or two, irrespective of whether they possess the ball. He played for IMG and was ignored by the regional powers, instead being pursued by deep north Big 10 teams and the okies. This is the kind of meathead that a guy like Venables takes and calls "our kind of guy" simply because he saw him beat up four junior kids at once behind the school when the okies showed up to visit.

Ashton Sanders (DT): He's built like a fire hydrant and might be 6'0" on his tippy toes, but he's listed at 6'1". OU needs bodies in the middle on defense and they had to beat out Cal and a coachless Wisconsin to land him. He was mostly ignored locally. He's The Human Buttplug for a defense, clogging up the insides of the defense if he can get fat enough. 

Heath Ozaeta (IOL): Bedenbough has a penchant for recruiting some aggie-looking motherfuckers. This guy's the gingeriest ginger who has ever gingered. Also known as The Human Hand Grenade because if he visits your school, he scatters other interested recruits far and wide from wherever he's standing and causes the school he's visiting to immediately back off of his recruitment. He visited 5 schools officially, and none of them pushed for him after his official. OU landed him by default since he was clearly a personality fit for their campus after he tried to fit in everywhere but there on his officials.

Taylor Wein (Edge): OU is the only school this guy visited, and they got on him late. Looking at his film, they didn't get on him late because of that footage. This is another take in which Venables and his staff are going to show everyone their prowess as a scouting group by finding this hidden star in obscurity, or they're not nearly as smart as they think they are. He's big, for whatever that's worth. I doubt he plays the key pass rushing role on the outside, but probably more of a strongside guy, if he ever plays.

Kade McIntyre (TE): OU beat out KSU and Iowa for a TE, so it's hard to knock the take. He's another developmental guy who chose the worst school for development out of his options. Brand means a lot, clearly. He's going to have to put on a lot of weight to be an in-line guy, but no one can run a potent roid process like Jerry Schmidt.

Erik "Sourdough" McCarty (S): A fourth safety in the class, from Oklahoma backwaters. Enjoy the fresh smell of rising dough.

Markus "Pumpernickel" Strong (DL): Another mystery take from Florida, OU beat USF and Troy for his services. If this guy sees the field anytime soon, OU fans are probably lighting their cigarettes at that point, because they've already been fucked. 

Taylor VonBreadenHeim (LB): Rivals and ESPN didn't even have this guy in their databases. 247 and On3 ranked him late because they apparently owed Brent Venables a favor, or he threatened to violently rape some of their employees after hosting them on an employee getaway church revival weekend on his Norman property. This guy could be some sort of Gotch Yarbrough test that the services and OU are failing, because I'm not completely sure he exists. 

 

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Well, if Brent's grace period is over for his players, perhaps they'll see CU in the Alamo Bowl. We know how heated that game can be. 

Fucking ou, they care more about college football than they do healthcare, so if Brent is sucking shit halfway through the season, they'll can his ass. Which sucks. 

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 Vegetables is a place holder. He’ll be long gone before sec sec sec. 

I feel like they are going to limp in to the SEC and really struggle to adjust. They remind me a bit of Green Bay. They have had this insane 25 year run of hall of fame QB play with Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers at the QB position and it has elevated that team above and beyond what they should have been able to accomplish. Then when that goes away they are left with something called Jordan Love. Their lack of deep NIL is getting exposed, and it doesn't seem like too many top recruits are buying what Venables is selling. They are getting desperate and having to throw big wads at key guys just to land them. They are like aggy, except with far fewer resources to money whip dudes. 

Venables is the Jordan Love of OU football. If he gets his doors blown off in 2024 he is going to be sacrificed to whatever volcano will spit out the next Stoops.

On the other hand, I feel like Texas has really built for this for the last 3 years with a very solid plan that has been executed extremely well. It would not surprise me to see Texas surprise some people and contend for an SEC title in the first couple of seasons, especially with Bama seemingly on the backside of their run. 

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