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People will say "moving the goal posts" but this is easily the worst big 12 I've ever seen. BYU seems to be the most consistent team but they can bog down fast. But they find different ways to keep winning. 

Colorado is probably the most collectively talented team in the conference but not very deep. Their defense is not a fluke. They have two very good linebackers that i previously didn't know even existed. 

Their reciever room is by far better than anyone in the conference. Last year I thought Horn was just the beneficiary of target volume. But he's really good. Omarion Miller probably starts for most teams in the country and he had trouble seeing the field even before his injury. At this point I think Colorado would beat Iowa State four times out of five. 

Their toughest games have all been at home. If they get past Jabbering Joey in Lubbock they have a clear path. ESPN will ejaculate all over themselves and race each other to lodge their heads in deion's anus. Tech is a schizophrenic team that oscillates between average to terrible. They will get physically smacked and knocked around by ISU and then have to play God's chosen one at home. Not looking good for Joey.

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Anyone saying this game was anything other than a massive accomplishment for Sanders and the CU program is a moron. 

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14 hours ago, Helobious said:

Anyone in here have colorado starting 7-2?

Slacks Did. Slacks is a believer. 

"Remove the name, watch the game."

Coach Sanders knows football, football players, and promotion. He is a de facto AD that was also the best cover corner ever, and played against and with the best players ever. And he knows how to motivate players and hold them accountable. 

Shadeur Sanders can QB, and I've been saying that on this thread. "

Travis Hunter is the Most Outstanding Player in CFB, and we would (maybe) sacrifice a baby cow to have him at Texas.

Not being liked has dick all to do with football. 

And they aren't playing unbeatable juggernauts like... (Checks notes) Indiana, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss. Or Georgia Tech. 

So, yeah, 7-2 isn't crazy. They could also lose a game.

And with their OL, they could still end the season at 7-5. If they had an OL, which is difficult to slap together in the portal, they have enough respect to walk through the Big12.

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Keeler is warming to Prime, not a fan of Tech fans:

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Is that a tortilla in your pocket, Travis Hunter?

Texas Tech threw everything it had at the CU Buffs. And we do mean everything. Shallow crosses. Wheel routes. Flatbreads. Water bottles.

With 12:12 to go in a bizarrely played and even more bizarrely officiated 41-27 CU victory on Saturday, things devolved to the point where Red Raiders football coach Joey McGuire grabbed the public-address microphone at Jones AT&T Stadium.

“Hey … students!” McGuire shouted. “Stop throwing stuff on the field! Please!”

Early in the first quarter, Hunter picked up a tortilla that had drifted onto the field. The best player in college football, who apparently also hates littering, promptly stuck it in his pants.

With 1:18 left in the third quarter and his Buffs up 31-20, Shilo Sanders spotted a water bottle thrown his way. The CU safety grabbed the thing and lofted it back into the stands.

Big 12 refs had about as much control of that tilt as Mr. Toad did his Rolls Royce. CU and Tech combined for 23 penalties and 186 yards in sins. It was the kind of afternoon where, if McGuire and CU coach Deion Sanders weren’t such good friends, someone would’ve started swinging fists or folding chairs by the fourth quarter.

The Buffs’ cooler heads prevailed. Despite the chaos, CU (7-2, 5-1 Big 12) moved into sole possession of second place in the conference with three games left to play. The Buffs extended their road win streak to four straight for the first time since 1996. They survived a 13-0 deficit in the first quarter, and shook off 15 minutes straight of getting punched in the kisser.


But more impressively, they endured a barrage from some of the trashiest fans in college football.

Throwing tortillas? That’s cute.

Throwing a water bottle? That’s assault.

Lubbock didn’t like the refs, so it lost its cool. It didn’t like the scoreboard, so it lost its dang mind.

“I had a vape given to me, (a) water bottle given to me and a beer bottle given to me,” McGuire said later, according to KTXT-FM. “I’m shocked we didn’t get a penalty.”

  
Tech officials were lucky someone wasn’t seriously hurt. While Red Raider fans struggled to grasp common decency and sportsmanship, Tech’s offensive and defensive lines struggled mightily with CU in the trenches.

Tech tailback Tajh Brooks, who was averaging 5.3 yards per carry at home before Saturday, was limited to 4.4 per tote on 31 attempts. CU piled up 10 tackles for loss and sacked Raiders QB Behren Morton six times.

Just like the road demolitions of UCF and Arizona, the Buffs had several players take turns with the crowbar. Amari McNeill, a transfer from the Tennessee Volunteers, racked up 1.5 sacks, along with three stops for losses. Linebacker Nikhai Hill-Green, another transfer, picked off a Morton pass, while edge rushers Arden Walker (two sacks) and Keaten Wade (1.5 sacks) combined to take the Tech QB down 3.5 times between them.

This one didn’t feel like so much of a game as it did in installments of a mega-bucks movie franchise. Each quarter had a tone, a big bad and emotional twists all its own.

The opening stanza belonged to the hosts. Tech came out of the gates doing its best North Dakota State. How do you mess with a Robert Livingston defense early? Attack the safeties with crossing routes and make those downhill linebackers have to cover receivers leaking out of the backfield.

Down 13-0, CU didn’t force a three-and-out until the first play of the second quarter. Offensively, the Buffs were just 1 for 7 on third downs at the half.

Eventually, though, both teams reverted to type.

The Buffs outscored the Red Raiders 10-0 in the second quarter and 21-7 in the third. Tech came into the weekend leading the Big 12 in penalties per game (7.8). After just three flags over a relatively peaceful first and second quarters, the hosts committed four penalties in the first 12 minutes of the second half.

Back-to-back face-mask and holding flags late in the third stanza took a CU drive from first down at its own 38 to a fresh set of downs at the Tech 27. Shedeur took care of the rest, hitting Will Sheppard for 17 yards and then from five yards out on a perfect lob to the back right pylon — a score that put CU up 23-20 with 4:25 to go until the fourth period.

At the same time, Kansas was busy doing CU a giant solid against Iowa State. The Jayhawks’ 2-6 record as of Saturday morning was deceptive — KU entered the weekend ranked No. 36 nationally in ESPN’s Football Power Index, better than Arizona State (38th), Wisconsin (39th), Cincinnati (40th), UNLV (42nd) and Michigan (46th). Five of those six Jayhawks losses had come by six points or fewer.

KU took it out on Cyclones at Arrowhead Stadium, holding on for a 45-36 win that wrested control of second place, and an inside track to the Big 12 Championship, out of ISU’s sweaty palms.

Rock Chalk in Kansas City will be the Buffs’ problem in two weeks, although it’s a delicious one. Because CU controls its own destiny now. And said destiny is on the express lane to Dallas, Coach Prime’s backyard, and to a berth in the Big 12 title game.

Anything this league’s thrown at CU, the program’s found an answer for. Bottles included.

On Saturday, the Buffs handled trash the way a College Football Playoff team should.

They took it out.

 

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On 11/9/2024 at 6:54 PM, Helobious said:

Anyone in here have colorado starting 7-2?

Not I.  I'm now hoping that Colorado makes the conference title game to make FSU sweat in the offseason, because after losing his most talented players after this season Deion's market value for a bigger program may not be higher.  FSU has a massive buyout to pay if they fire Norvell, but college football programs do stupid things all the time.  See, e.g., aggy.

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Not I.  I'm now hoping that Colorado makes the conference title game to make FSU sweat in the offseason, because after losing his most talented players after this season Deion's market value for a bigger program may not be higher.  FSU has a massive buyout to pay if they fire Norvell, but college football programs do stupid things all the time.  See, e.g., aggy.

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Did he get good, or just start playing some god awful teams?

This is kinda like aggy is doing us this season.  Before the season it was they will get hammered by the sec grind, now it’s they have an easy schedule.  You have to give him some credit, the team before he got there would still be winning two games a year. They are obviously decent this year but the real test will be next year without his son and Hunter.  

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23 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

This is kinda like aggy is doing us this season.  Before the season it was they will get hammered by the sec grind, now it’s they have an easy schedule.  You have to give him some credit, the team before he got there would still be winning two games a year. They are obviously decent this year but the real test will be next year without his son and Hunter.  

2?  It took the firing of the coach to get 1 win in 2022. The roster had the lowest level of talent I have seen at CU in my lifetime.

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Deion Sanders provides some data behind Colorado's highly scrutinized recruiting strategy

Instead of recruiting 25 high school kids and having half of them hit the portal, Prime and Colorado want a handful they expect to play right away

Doug Samuels             Nov 13, 2024

What started with a comment in his very first face-to-face with Colorado players about "bringing his own Louis luggage" evolved into a full-fledged recruiting strategy the past few seasons for Deion Sanders and Colorado.

The controversial head coach has been criticized plenty during his time leading programs at Jackson State and now Colorado, but perhaps nothing has drawn more criticism that his affinity for players coming from the transfer portal while cleaning house on the roster he inherited.

While reloading the Buffs roster via the portal has surely driven competition in the locker room and on the field and paved the way for Colorado's 6-2 record so far this year, it has also drawn it's fair share of critics who are skeptical of his lack of hitting the road to recruit high school players.

Yesterday, Prime broke down some data on why they believe in their approach, and as with nearly everything with Prime, it has some great soundbytes.

"Let's just say we get 25 high school players. How many are going to play their freshman year? At the most, let's say four or five."

"No you've got 20 guys redshirting. So when you go through that spring with 20 guys redshirting, how many are you going to retain after that spring? How many are going to jump in the portal on you?"

"If any one of you want to try and go calculate this statistically, I've already done it. So it's going to be half."

"Okay. Well why don't I just focus on ten [high school recruits] then?"

"See, when we grab a freshman, we expect that guy to play. We're not looking to just redshirt you and develop you. No, no no. We're looking for you to come in and play some football."

"So our approach is somewhat different and heavily scrutinized, heavily criticized, but we know what we're doing."

Prime talks about top classes where highly recruited kids hit the portal and no one really talks about it being like an NFL team with the best draft goes out that season and gets crushed but no one says anything about it.

Hear Prime's full thoughts in the clip.

 

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Think about it like this, since college, people have doubted what their eyes have told them about deion and football. 

Maybe he can't run an actual school, but his record when it comes to anything related to the game of football, he's been pretty damn good.

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4 minutes ago, Slacks said:

Think about it like this, since college, people have doubted what their eyes have told them about deion and football. 

Maybe he can't run an actual school, but his record when it comes to anything related to the game of football, he's been pretty damn good.

So the inverse of Jerry Jones?

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BOULDER — The microphone ain’t big enough for the two of them.

Louis Riddick’s right. So’s Michael Irvin. The Dallas Cowboys need Deion Sanders. The NFL needs Deion Sanders.

But you know what Coach Prime doesn’t need?

Jerry in his ear. Jerry on his phone. Jerry picking the groceries. Jerry picking the menu. Jerry in his meetings. Jerry demanding the final cut.

Sanders is CU’s Jerry Jones.

Only he wins.

Why would Prime ever want to cede that scepter to anyone else?

“I’m happy where I am, man. I’m good,” Sanders told reporters Tuesday during his weekly news conference at the Champions Center.


“I’ve got a kickstand down. You know what a kickstand is? A lot of people don’t … that means I’m resting. I’m good. I’m happy. I’m excited. I’m enthusiastic about where I am. I love it here. I truly do.”

His Buffs are 8-2, tied for first in the Big 12 and just climbed to No. 16 in the latest College Football Playoff rankings.


His Cowboys, meanwhile, are Big D’s biggest dumpster fire. Dak Prescott’s out for the year. Mike McCarthy’s been a lame-duck coach for what feels like two presidential terms.

At 3-7, it’s not just the sky that’s falling in Texas. A piece of sheet metal reportedly descended from the roof of AT&T Stadium while it was being opened Monday. Didn’t take long for the Cowboys to join in on the theme of the night, as they subsequently got pounded by Houston, 34-10.

The Giants, Raiders, Browns, Titans and Jaguars all have a head start in the tankathon to draft Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter, or both. America’s Team might have to lose out just to land a shot. Although based on what we saw against the Texans … they just might.

The Cowboys stinking is like the Yankees and Lakers stinking — all those bandwagon, front-running fans lose their collective minds, everybody’s got a take, and the morning talk shows eat it up.

Irvin played with Coach Prime on Dallas’ Super Bowl XXX champs, and the two have remained close ever since. The Pro Football Hall-of-Fame wideout raised eyebrows Monday during an appearance on Colin Cowherd’s “The Herd” show on FS1.

When asked if Sanders would ride in from Boulder to rescue the Cowboys if Dallas drafted Shedeur, Irvin replied: “100 percent … and I can tell you, good sources have told me that. Great sources have told me that.”

He even dropped Prime’s name, unsolicited, when interviewed this past Friday during Netflix’s coverage of the Tyson-Paul fight at Arlington, Texas.

“I give (Jake Paul) respect like I give (to) my great guy Deion Sanders, who didn’t go the normal route — who I’m gonna be in Jerry’s ear about later,” Irvin said, as Jones, sitting to his right, smiled uncomfortably. “That’s just something else we’re talking about.”

With that, Jones jumped in, interrupted Irvin, and changed the subject.

Come on. You think Jerry would ever give Deion the last word? On anything?

Jerry doesn’t do alpha coaches. Sanders doesn’t suffer fools gladly.

Jones hasn’t had a head coach with Prime’s gravitas since Bill Parcells — and that was 18 years ago.

Sanders needs space for his staff, his inner circle, space to breathe. Jones sucks all the oxygen out of every room he walks into.

“The NFL needs someone like Deion Sanders, quite honestly,”  Riddick, who played with Prime in Atlanta, offered on ESPN’s “Get Up” show on Tuesday. “He fits the NFL. It’s a matter of whether or not the NFL fits him.

“That’s the issue, whether it’s Dallas or anywhere else. Let me just tell you this: Anybody who knows that man — he takes a backseat to nobody. Nobody. Not an owner, not players, not other coaches, nobody.”

The football business, like a good offensive line, is a leverage game. In Boulder, Deion holds all the cards. He’s turned a Power 4 coaching graveyard into a garden, risen a zombie football program back from the dead in a blink.

Sanders is also one of the biggest bargains in CU football history. He’s the fourth-highest-paid coach in the Big 12, per USA Today ($5.7 million), and trails No. 3, Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, by $800,000 this year. The same Whittingham his team just whupped by 25 points last weekend.

Among the CFP’s latest top 20, only two Power 4 coaches reportedly make less than Sanders’ $5.7 million — Indiana’s Curt Cignetti ($4.25 million) and SMU’s Rhett Lashlee ($2.36 million). You better believe Cignetti’s about to flip his magic-carpet ride in Bloomington — another graveyard — into checks his great-great-great grandchildren will be cashing.

And sure, Coach Prime doesn’t need the money. But as with players, compensating Sanders is about respect. About rewarding what he’s built relative to his peers. The coach of one of the top two programs in the Big 12 right now should want to be compensated like one. (Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy is the league’s current No. 1, at $7.75 million, followed by Kansas’ Lance Leipold, at $7.5 million, if you’re wondering where the bidding starts.)

“I don’t know if the pro game is necessarily what he wants,” Riddick continued, “but I can tell you this: If I was an owner and I spent some time talking to him like I’ve talked to him, and understand what makes him tick, I would be trying desperately to get him into my building, there’s no question about that. It’s just a matter of whether or not he wants it.”

In Jerry World, Jones is marooned, floating to nowhere, watching Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts drift away with the NFC East the way a bottle drifts in the open sea.

In Peggy World, Prime has the Big 12 right where he wants it — looking up at him. And hoping some desperate owner heeds Riddick’s advice before the Buffs become a dynasty.

 

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BOULDER — The microphone ain’t big enough for the two of them.
Louis Riddick’s right. So’s Michael Irvin. The Dallas Cowboys need Deion Sanders. The NFL needs Deion Sanders.
But you know what Coach Prime doesn’t need?
Jerry in his ear. Jerry on his phone. Jerry picking the groceries. Jerry picking the menu. Jerry in his meetings. Jerry demanding the final cut.
Sanders is CU’s Jerry Jones.
Only he wins.
Why would Prime ever want to cede that scepter to anyone else?
“I’m happy where I am, man. I’m good,” Sanders told reporters Tuesday during his weekly news conference at the Champions Center.

“I’ve got a kickstand down. You know what a kickstand is? A lot of people don’t … that means I’m resting. I’m good. I’m happy. I’m excited. I’m enthusiastic about where I am. I love it here. I truly do.”
His Buffs are 8-2, tied for first in the Big 12 and just climbed to No. 16 in the latest College Football Playoff rankings.

His Cowboys, meanwhile, are Big D’s biggest dumpster fire. Dak Prescott’s out for the year. Mike McCarthy’s been a lame-duck coach for what feels like two presidential terms.
At 3-7, it’s not just the sky that’s falling in Texas. A piece of sheet metal reportedly descended from the roof of AT&T Stadium while it was being opened Monday. Didn’t take long for the Cowboys to join in on the theme of the night, as they subsequently got pounded by Houston, 34-10.
The Giants, Raiders, Browns, Titans and Jaguars all have a head start in the tankathon to draft Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter, or both. America’s Team might have to lose out just to land a shot. Although based on what we saw against the Texans … they just might.
The Cowboys stinking is like the Yankees and Lakers stinking — all those bandwagon, front-running fans lose their collective minds, everybody’s got a take, and the morning talk shows eat it up.
Irvin played with Coach Prime on Dallas’ Super Bowl XXX champs, and the two have remained close ever since. The Pro Football Hall-of-Fame wideout raised eyebrows Monday during an appearance on Colin Cowherd’s “The Herd” show on FS1.
When asked if Sanders would ride in from Boulder to rescue the Cowboys if Dallas drafted Shedeur, Irvin replied: “100 percent … and I can tell you, good sources have told me that. Great sources have told me that.”
He even dropped Prime’s name, unsolicited, when interviewed this past Friday during Netflix’s coverage of the Tyson-Paul fight at Arlington, Texas.
“I give (Jake Paul) respect like I give (to) my great guy Deion Sanders, who didn’t go the normal route — who I’m gonna be in Jerry’s ear about later,” Irvin said, as Jones, sitting to his right, smiled uncomfortably. “That’s just something else we’re talking about.”
With that, Jones jumped in, interrupted Irvin, and changed the subject.
Come on. You think Jerry would ever give Deion the last word? On anything?
Jerry doesn’t do alpha coaches. Sanders doesn’t suffer fools gladly.
Jones hasn’t had a head coach with Prime’s gravitas since Bill Parcells — and that was 18 years ago.
Sanders needs space for his staff, his inner circle, space to breathe. Jones sucks all the oxygen out of every room he walks into.
“The NFL needs someone like Deion Sanders, quite honestly,”  Riddick, who played with Prime in Atlanta, offered on ESPN’s “Get Up” show on Tuesday. “He fits the NFL. It’s a matter of whether or not the NFL fits him.
“That’s the issue, whether it’s Dallas or anywhere else. Let me just tell you this: Anybody who knows that man — he takes a backseat to nobody. Nobody. Not an owner, not players, not other coaches, nobody.”
The football business, like a good offensive line, is a leverage game. In Boulder, Deion holds all the cards. He’s turned a Power 4 coaching graveyard into a garden, risen a zombie football program back from the dead in a blink.
Sanders is also one of the biggest bargains in CU football history. He’s the fourth-highest-paid coach in the Big 12, per USA Today ($5.7 million), and trails No. 3, Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, by $800,000 this year. The same Whittingham his team just whupped by 25 points last weekend.
Among the CFP’s latest top 20, only two Power 4 coaches reportedly make less than Sanders’ $5.7 million — Indiana’s Curt Cignetti ($4.25 million) and SMU’s Rhett Lashlee ($2.36 million). You better believe Cignetti’s about to flip his magic-carpet ride in Bloomington — another graveyard — into checks his great-great-great grandchildren will be cashing.
And sure, Coach Prime doesn’t need the money. But as with players, compensating Sanders is about respect. About rewarding what he’s built relative to his peers. The coach of one of the top two programs in the Big 12 right now should want to be compensated like one. (Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy is the league’s current No. 1, at $7.75 million, followed by Kansas’ Lance Leipold, at $7.5 million, if you’re wondering where the bidding starts.)
“I don’t know if the pro game is necessarily what he wants,” Riddick continued, “but I can tell you this: If I was an owner and I spent some time talking to him like I’ve talked to him, and understand what makes him tick, I would be trying desperately to get him into my building, there’s no question about that. It’s just a matter of whether or not he wants it.”
In Jerry World, Jones is marooned, floating to nowhere, watching Jayden Daniels and Jalen Hurts drift away with the NFC East the way a bottle drifts in the open sea.
In Peggy World, Prime has the Big 12 right where he wants it — looking up at him. And hoping some desperate owner heeds Riddick’s advice before the Buffs become a dynasty.
 
If/when Deion leaves Boulder, I don't think it will be for the NFL. He very much sees his role as turning his players into men. NFL vets don't want any of that.

The only way he leaves is if a big program gives him the autonomy he has now on top of all the money in the world. And I'm not sure how many programs out there are willing to do that. Not the money part, but the autonomy part.
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On 11/16/2024 at 4:28 PM, TreatyOak said:

It's killing a lot of people who have spent the last two seasons telling us Deion is a terrible coach, haha.

 

I'll admit it, I was expecting a trainwreck at CU this year. Deon has done a good job. I wouldn't say I'm shocked, but I am surprised. 

 

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That's true...i really thought he was lucky to have such a talent at QB in his own son and the potential Heisman winner in Hunter...

But whatever and the fuck he's doing, is working there.

Not sure it will in the NFL, he can't just buy players and convince them to transfer when they don't get playing time at other schools.

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3 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

I'll admit it, I was expecting a trainwreck at CU this year. Deon has done a good job. I wouldn't say I'm shocked, but I am surprised. 

Since he has flipped a top QB recruit from USC, perhaps he is planning on staying at Colorado. 

I do think he runs the program like a clown show, but his turnaround has been pretty remarkable. He was a winner at his last school and is looking like one now.

 

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24 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

Since he has flipped a top QB recruit from USC, perhaps he is planning on staying at Colorado. 

I do think he runs the program like a clown show, but his turnaround has been pretty remarkable. He was a winner at his last school and is looking like one now.

 

He took Travis and his sons with him after one season. 

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It’s just killing @BurntEyes that they are doing well and in the mix for the playoff.

It's not killing me at all. I was incorrect and thus far Deion has been having a suprisingly good season. Note, I said Deion not CU. I hate CU. I'm entertained by Deion and his antics.

I did not expect he'd do this well. I'm owning being incorrect. Not entirely sure why you felt compelled to call me out specifically but here I am. Like I was the only one cheering for a clown show. Which we've gotten.

I said from the start I'm watching the Telenovela that is Deion Sanders. That hasn't changed even a little bit. 

If losses come it gets more entertaining. He keeps winning a different sort of entertaining.

I still don't think he's there for the long haul. 

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It's killing a lot of people who have spent the last two seasons telling us Deion is a terrible coach, haha.

How did Deion do the prior two seasons?

You do realize this season isn't finished and 7-2 doesn't indicate a coach is great. Moreso with the prior to seasons.

Celebrate, enjoy, and feel free to mock, but don't be factually incorrect. The full data points don't say the "haters" were wrong just yet.

Edit - Funny but I don't recall of your CU posts prior to the arrival of Deion. I wonder why.

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How did Deion do the prior two seasons? 

You do realize this season isn't finished and 7-2 doesn't indicate a coach is great. Moreso with the prior to seasons.

Celebrate, enjoy, and feel free to mock, but don't be factually incorrect. The full data points don't say the "haters" were wrong just yet. 

Edit - Funny but I don't recall of your CU posts prior to the arrival of Deion. I wonder why.

It doesn't matter what he does for the rest of the season. He has already exceeded all expectations, especially from the, "he's a fraud and will have a terrible season' crowd here, who have dominated this thread.  

Since the season wasn't a disaster, the 'move-the-goalpost crowd' was out in full force saying, " but they haven't played anyone good." Whatever. 

Now, most of his haters here (and they are haters, for sure) don't even bother posting anymore.    

As someone in marketing, I have been intrigued with all his disruptive marketing efforts. That is where he excels. As I said, he can be a total clown show, but not acknowledging what he has accomplished in two seasons is disingenuous. And he's a lot more fun than watching the usual retreads fail over and over. (I"m lookin' at you, Tom Herman.)

But not Jimbo. Jimbo is gold and I miss him every day. 

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35 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

It doesn't matter what he does for the rest of the season. He has already exceeded all expectations, especially from the, "he's a fraud and will have a terrible season' crowd here, who have dominated this thread.  

Since the season wasn't a disaster, the 'move-the-goalpost crowd' was out in full force saying, " but they haven't played anyone good." Whatever. 

Now, most of his haters here (and they are haters, for sure) don't even bother posting anymore.    

As someone in marketing, I have been intrigued with all his disruptive marketing efforts. That is where he excels. As I said, he can be a total clown show, but not acknowledging what he has accomplished in two seasons is disingenuous. And he's a lot more fun than watching the usual retreads fail over and over. (I"m lookin' at you, Tom Herman.)

But not Jimbo. Jimbo is gold and I miss him every day. 

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Well, I haven't moved any goal posts and I owned I was incorrect about the success I anticipated he'd see this season. Yes he's exceded what was a very low bar set by the haters. He certainly exceeded my expectations.

Telenovas are popular for a reason. 

Ask Jackson State.. they're familiar too. 

Otherwise, I'm not sure where else we disagree.. (edit - the rest of the season absolutely matters. Deion has matched the positive smack of the hater's negative. To go 7-5 and end the season and also ran does not match Deion's smack. So that's an area where we disagree. I don't anticipate that, but will own I'd love the drama it would bring to the Telenovela.)

He hasn't succeeded in football for 2 seasons, he's succeeded in making CU a talking point. That's good for CU, and I've never said otherwise. Will it remain the case is what's to be determined.

Edit - but you're absolutely right that Jimbo is an American hero. 

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18 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well, I haven't moved any goal posts and I owned I was incorrect about the success I anticipated he'd see this season. Yes he's exceded what was a very low bar set by the haters. He certainly exceeded my expectations.

Telenovas are popular for a reason. 

Ask Jackson State.. they're familiar too. 

Otherwise, I'm not sure where else we disagree.. 

He hasn't succeeded in football for 2 seasons, he's succeeded in making CU a talking point. That's good for CU, and I've never said otherwise. Will it remain the case is what's to be determined.

I respect your post. Agree about the drama. It's fun. 

I do hate when people criticize him for leaving Jackson State. Almost every college coach goes onto better opportunities when they can. And his former college and conference deserve lots of blame, for trashing him out of jealousy at press conferences, stealing his things from the locker room, (!!!!) and not honoring his contract.(allegedly) He has also been criticized for 'leaving the community.' I think the community left him. 

But how can you say he hasn't succeeded in two seasons? CU won ONE game two years ago and had the worst players in a major conference. Now, there are scenarios where they make the 12-team playoff! Just being in the conversation for that is insane.  

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

How did Deion do the prior two seasons?

You do realize this season isn't finished and 7-2 doesn't indicate a coach is great. Moreso with the prior to seasons.

Celebrate, enjoy, and feel free to mock, but don't be factually incorrect. The full data points don't say the "haters" were wrong just yet.

Edit - Funny but I don't recall of your CU posts prior to the arrival of Deion. I wonder why.

So did you predict he would win more then 5 games just curious what was your prediction. I have not been paying attention to this thread or CU but I recognize a goal post move when I see one.

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