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On 4/16/2025 at 9:58 PM, Chewbacca said:
On 4/16/2025 at 7:28 PM, Iceman said:
you better have plenty of numbers...

He's out of kids.

Bold statement...

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Deion Sanders met the media in a defensive posture on Thursday, and for good reason. For the first time in his 2-plus years in the mountains, Coach Prime has angered the locals. 

In case you missed it, on Monday Colorado announced it will retire the jerseys of outgoing Heisman Trophy winner Travis Hunter and outgoing quarterback Shedeur Sanders, to much shock and dismay. 

"Retiring numbers is a huge honor and something that should never be taken lightly. I believe strongly that there should be a cooling off period, the same as with the Hall of Fame in the NFL, so decisions are not made out of emotion," former Buffalo Darrin Chiaverini said in a well-circulated post on Twitter. Chiaverini noted that Colorado's first Heisman winner, running back Rashaan Salaam, waited 23 years to get his jersey retired, while Hunter will wait zero games. Players like College Football Hall of Famer Alfred Williams and the iconic Kordell Stewart, among others littered through Buffs history, are still waiting. 

Clearly, the talk has gotten to Deion. When a reporter broached the topic, calling it a "sore subject," Sanders shot back "not really. This is is the first time I've ever seen it sore."

Sanders then claimed every jersey he ever wore is retired, which is not even close to true. The Atlanta Falcons and Dallas Cowboys do not retire jerseys, but his No. 21 is currently issued out by both teams. (He is in the Falcons ring of honor, but not the Cowboys.) The 49ers have retired 12 numbers, but Prime's No. 21 is not among them. 

"We're talking about Shedeur, we're not talking about nobody else. If his last name wasn't Sanders, we wouldn't be having this discussion. The only reason we're having this discussion is his last name is Sanders. Okay? That's it," 

Sanders is 100 percent correct, but 180 degrees away from the direction he thinks he is. 

Before we go further, let's acknowledge Sanders had an impressive college career, no matter his last name. He set a Division I record with a touchdown pass in 49 straight games, won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award as the top upperclassman quarterback in college football, and was named the Big 12 Offensive Player of the Year by the conference's coaches and writers. All due respect to Kordell Stewart, he never won the Big 8 Offensive Player of the Year. 

But if Sanders's name was Shedeur Johnson, he's not getting his No. 2 retired. At least not yet. If he played at a more traditional power than Colorado -- no offense to Colorado -- he's not getting his number retired yet. If his coach was anyone other than his father, he's not getting his number retired.

I think that's what cut to the core of why Colorado fans are so upset by this. It's the first time they've had to publicly reckon with how much autonomy over their proud university they've given over to an employee that's been on the job for less than three years. Deion Sanders will be gone from Colorado one day, and statistically speaking probably sooner than later. But Shedeur's No. 2, the quarterback of teams that went 13-12, did not play for a conference championship and were blown out of the only bowl game they qualified for, will hang at Folsom Field forever. Ohio State is not doing this, at least not now. Oklahoma is not. Nebraska is not. But Deion has Colorado so leveraged to him personally that he can make such a permanent, monumental decision (or, worse, have one made on his behalf) on a relative moment's notice. 

Breathing life into those fears, Sanders pivoted into a rant that made it appear getting the Sanders name into Colorado lore was a way to thank him for all he's done for Colorado.

"There's been so many things accomplished at this university expeditiously, it's been unbelievable. And I think we should be appreciative, we should be thankful. We have a wonderful room full of people that covers us, and I don't know if you all were in this room two, three years ago. It's a new day. We're doing things a little different. The training table's better, the food's better, nobody's said nothing about that. There's a whole lot of things that are brighter and they're better because someone stands on business and makes it that way, and he is resilient when it comes to it being that way because everything I do is to improve everything for us. One time we came in here and it was hot and I said, 'Let's turn the air conditioner on.' Night game, right? The next time we came in, what happened? I think about those details. Because it don't just benefit me, it benefits all of us. So if all of us are happy, all of us should be happy. 

"The root to all of it is personal. Sometimes we've got to get out the way, man, and be thankful for our people. Love thy neighbor as thyself, that's what the Bible told me. If we loved thy neighbor truly, we wouldn't have a problem with anybody else."

Finally, Deion was asked one more question on the topic, and again he cut in. A reporter opened a question by saying that he's sure it's a big moment for Shedeur when Deion interrupted, "He don't care. Let's get this straight: he's a Sanders, he don't care. Travis don't either." Deion then closed with the most grandiose statement of the entire week: "I don't, either."

 

 

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Shedeur Sanders was 13 - 12 as a starter at Colorado. 

Kordell Stewart went 11 - 1 as a starter in 1994 and 27 - 5 - 1 for his career, but he didn't have a nice watch.

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51 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Shedeur Sanders was 13 - 12 as a starter at Colorado. 

Kordell Stewart went 11 - 1 as a starter in 1994 and 27 - 5 - 1 for his career, but he didn't have a nice watch.

They had slightly different supporting casts.  That 1994 team is probably the most talented CU team ever.

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50 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

They had slightly different supporting casts.  That 1994 team is probably the most talented CU team ever.

They also played and beat ranked teams in 1994.

Sanders went 13-12 and never beat a team that was ranked at the end of the season.

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7 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

They also played and beat ranked teams in 1994.

Sanders went 13-12 and never beat a team that was ranked at the end of the season.

Calling out Shedeur for the talent differential between those teams is a take, I guess.

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Yes - and both he and TH played against BYU in last season’s Alamo Bowl, which I applaud the effort. The Buffs were quite frankly taken “to the woodshed!”

I kept hoping early in the 2nd that this upcoming drive would result in them getting back into the game, but it never materialized.

I’ve seen some amazing comebacks in the Valero Alamo Bowl. One is TCU’s backup QB leading them back from a huge 1st half deficit vs Oregon. It was truly amazing and the whole stadium, besides Ducks fans, were cheering them on. It didn’t hurt that across to my right side was the TCU Cheer Squad - whatever they’re called, but all gorgeous!

Hook’em!!!

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Jesus love me, this I know
on that wall the 2 will go
Little Deion can't wrong
Unto him the high road belong

 

what a fucking maroon.

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19 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Calling out Shedeur for the talent differential between those teams is a take, I guess.

I'm sorry if I confused you with your logic.

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2 hours ago, Chooky said:

Shedeur Sanders was 13 - 12 as a starter at Colorado. 

Kordell Stewart went 11 - 1 as a starter in 1994 and 27 - 5 - 1 for his career, but he didn't have a nice watch.

His attention whore dad wasn't coaching Colorado, either.

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44 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Calling out Shedeur for the talent differential between those teams is a take, I guess.

The talent differential between QB's?

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On 4/18/2025 at 2:18 PM, Chewbacca said:

Calling out Shedeur for the talent differential between those teams is a take, I guess.

So above-average QBs w/ subpar talent around them that go 500 should all get their numbers retired.  That's also a take, I guess. 

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4 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

So above-average QBs w/ subpar talent around them that go 500 should all get their numbers retired.  That's also a take, I guess. 

I never said he should have his number retired.  He shouldn't.  I just don't care that much about it.

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https://www.outkick.com/sports/nfl-draft-coach-entitled-shedeur-sanders-worst-interview-life

Yikes.

According to a new report from NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, many NFL coaches and scouts have concerns, not only about the former Colorado QB's game, but also his attitude.
"The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled," one longtime assistant coach said. "He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good."

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1 hour ago, markstanco said:

According to a new report from NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, many NFL coaches and scouts have concerns, not only about the former Colorado QB's game, but also his attitude.
"The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled," one longtime assistant coach said. "He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good."

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On 4/21/2025 at 7:31 AM, DigglerontheHoof said:

So above-average QBs w/ subpar talent around them that go 500 should all get their numbers retired.  That's also a take, I guess. 

Bret Stafford and Peter Gardere are like, WTF.  good news for them is the number is retired we just need to add their names to the wall.

 

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24 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

Bret Stafford and Peter Gardere are like, WTF.  good news for them is the number is retired we just need to add their names to the wall.

 

Gardere's name should be up there for being the only QB in the history of the UT/OU game to win 4 in a row.

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4 hours ago, markstanco said:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/nfl-draft-coach-entitled-shedeur-sanders-worst-interview-life

Yikes.

According to a new report from NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, many NFL coaches and scouts have concerns, not only about the former Colorado QB's game, but also his attitude.
"The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled," one longtime assistant coach said. "He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good."

Dubious at best considering the source who is reporting on an anonymous source. Tom Pelissero will eventually be exposed for putting live rodents in his ass. 

Every quote in that article is already easily established by the most casual observer. And "NFL executive" is a hilariously vague description. At least make up some new shit.

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21 minutes ago, Chooky said:

Dubious at best considering the source who is reporting on an anonymous source. Tom Pelissero will eventually be exposed for putting live rodents in his ass. 

Every quote in that article is already easily established by the most casual observer. And "NFL executive" is a hilariously vague description. At least make up some new shit.

This stuck out to me as well. Could be a Deion hater, could be a made up source.  

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7 hours ago, markstanco said:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/nfl-draft-coach-entitled-shedeur-sanders-worst-interview-life

Yikes.

According to a new report from NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, many NFL coaches and scouts have concerns, not only about the former Colorado QB's game, but also his attitude.
"The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled," one longtime assistant coach said. "He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good."

He probably brought his social media team with him.

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1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

He probably brought his social media team with him.

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2 hours ago, msucolt45 said:

Yes - if you’re going to call him out like that, right before the draft, you need to go ahead and say YOU (by name) gave the quote.

Hook’em!!!

Maybe they’re doing Deion a solid and saying “one source” said this about Shedeur when really it was a lot of coaches and executives saying this about him. Shedeur is cocky and thinks he’s just as good as Cam Ward, if not better, when in reality it’s not even close.  

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9 hours ago, markstanco said:

Yikes.

According to a new report from NFL Network's Tom Pelissero, many NFL coaches and scouts have concerns, not only about the former Colorado QB's game, but also his attitude.
"The worst formal interview I’ve ever been in in my life. He’s so entitled," one longtime assistant coach said. "He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he’s not that good."

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But the “Anonymous Source” could’ve just said that SS was disinterested during interviews and basically just wanted to get it over with.

Over the years, those deemed to be Top 5 picks have treated team interviews just like that, when interviewed by teams that: one, they don’t have your position in need, but mainly, two - they knew there wasn’t a chance in Hell they’d be drafting them.

I know you shouldn’t want to act like teams might not be willing to trade up for you, but all year SS has been told/groomed that he’d be a Top 10 pick, so those way down the draft or not needing a QB, need not apply for an interview in SS’s mind?

Hook’em!!!

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