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1 hour ago, PGFrog said:

We should expect to see Sanders playing and Deion coaching for the Iowa Barnstormers in the very near future?  

I love their uniforms so much:

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I know the internet gonna crazy saying it’s a smear job but if SS had his dad’s talent he goes before tonite in the draft. 
 

it reminds me of how people lost their shit about Dwayne Haskins (RIP) he fell to the 15th pick in the first round. We know it didn’t pan out. And he didn’t fall like SS but you’d have thought the internet would lose their shit, 

most teams don’t need a QB that bad that they want a headcase when they can roll with a backup or grab someone in FA. 

some of the shit people are writing about this huge conspiracy have lost they minds. His interviews must have been an eye opening shitshow. Should have respected the process and he’d have been off the board by now. 

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Just now, Nicole44 said:

I know the internet gonna crazy saying it’s a smear job but if SS had his dad’s talent he goes before tonite in the draft. 
 

it reminds me of how people lost their shit about Dwayne Haskins (RIP) he fell to the 15th pick in the first round. We know it didn’t pan out. And he didn’t fall like SS but you’d have thought the internet would lose their shit, 

most teams don’t need a QB that bad that they want a headcase when they can roll with a backup or grab someone in FA. 

some of the shit people are writing about this huge conspiracy have lost they minds. His interviews must have been an eye opening shitshow. Should have respected the process and he’d have been off the board by now. 

Haskins was a physical beast compared to sanders

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Just now, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Haskins was a physical beast compared to sanders

Yes but the internet went nuts accusing all teams that passed on him as being crazy and racist and well sadly they were right about their concerns and that’s why he didn’t get a top ten pick. 

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2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it's legally binding.  I think if this were taken to trial, the athlete would win the case.  With NIL it's a right to work issue.

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Just now, DixonHur said:

Just because it's a rule doesn't mean it's legally binding.  I think if this were taken to trial, the athlete would win the case.  With NIL it's a right to work issue.

I think yall are retarded as the idiots on ESPN for how they're treating this.

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6 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

Brady, Brees, Rogers are all HoF guys that started on the sidelines. Lulz. 

All totally different situations. First of all those guys were drafted between, what, ‘99-‘05?  None of them was as high profile as Sanders as a college QB, though Rodgers clearly was a first round talent even in ‘05. All of those guys had something in them that’d work as a temporary backup until their skills or the right situation (Payton) manifested in their ability to be starter. 

In this league now, you start right away, or you go away, and oftentimes both as has been the case with Lance, Pickett, jones, Jones, Wilson, Rosen, Lynch, Wentz, Mariota, Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, etc.  I’m not saying it’s the proper way of doing things, but it’s the reality in today’s NFL. Stashing Rodgers, Love, Brees or Romo is neither conducive to today’s NFL because it just doesn’t happen (unless you’re Green Bay or Sean Payton is in your orbit), nor is it conducive to the ego/circus that is the Sanders family. 

What stache is describing that Eskimo jumped on with my “terrible take” is really hard to happen in todays NFL, and absolutely will not fucking happen with Shedeur Sanders. 

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9 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

But it's a collegiate sport so that could be a basis of a lawsuit.

ncaa wouldn't push back to hard.

they are a multi billion dollar tax free org, who gives a shit if 40ish undrafted players try to come back. no guarantees they'd get any interest, and good look getting nil money. a school would be giving them a break 

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

All totally different situations. First of all those guys were drafted between, what, ‘99-‘05?  None of them was as high profile as Sanders, as a first round talent, though Rodgers clearly was a first round talent even in ‘05. All of those guys had something in them that’d work as a temporary backup until their skills or the right situation (Payton) manifested in their ability to be starter. 

In this league now, you start right away, or you go away, and oftentimes both as has been the case with Lance, Pickett, jones, Jones, Wilson, Rosen, Lynch, Wentz, Mariota, Bortles, Bridgewater, Manziel, etc. - both. I’m not saying it’s the proper way of doing things, but it’s the reality in today’s NFL. Stashing Rodgers, Love, Brees or Romo is neither conducive to today’s NFL because it just doesn’t happen (unless you’re Green Bay or Sean Payton is in your orbit), nor is it conducive to the ego/circus that is the Sanders family. 

What stache is describing that Eskimo jumped on with my “terrible take” is really hard to happen in todays NFL, and absolutely will not fucking happen with Shedeur Sanders. 

I actually disagree with this somewhat. 
 

QB contracts keep getting set higher and higher. Teams are in a situation where they can’t just be drafting backups and paying them early round money. Trey Lance is a perfect example of a high level bust. There are many others.

Jordan Love was an early round find that developed before taking the reins. 

In my opinion, it’s smarter to take a qb later, pay them less money as a backup and let them earn a way to play. Those opportunities absolutely come up. They are given multiple chances until they just flame out or are a career backup. When that time comes, you better be ready… 

unless you’re a generational talent of course

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A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

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Just now, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 

 

nfl is serving him humble pie 

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6 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

I actually disagree with this somewhat. 
 

QB contracts keep getting set higher and higher. Teams are in a situation where they can’t just be drafting backups and paying them early round money. Trey Lance is a perfect example of a high level bust. There are many others.

Jordan Love was an early round find that developed before taking the reins. 

In my opinion, it’s smarter to take a qb later, pay them less money as a backup and let them earn a way to play. Those opportunities absolutely come up. They are given multiple chances until they just flame out or are a career backup. When that time comes, you better be ready… 

unless you’re a generational talent of course

There is no question, but, that is not the way of the modern NFL. Every team, even the Packers or the Patriots, has fallen prey to drafting the next guy in the very high rounds.  Most of the time, it doesn’t work for the bulk of the league.  Sitting the bench early and learning for your first 2-4 seasons simply is never done. If it was, stache has a point. The model is drafting guys with a ton of starts and letting them sink or swim. Shedeur never was good enough to be a “good” starter in the NFL as stache said. He’s just wrong. 

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1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Shough being drafted in the 2nd is hilarious.  That guy will be fired in 2 years…

 

it's amazing that a blind person is in the nfl 

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Some GMs can be really fucking stupid (I'm looking at YOU Jerrah), but truly, I'd rather have Gabriel, Mertz or Ewers riding pine in Dallas than Sanders. All day, every day. 

Which is why Jerrah will probably draft him late.

After Deion kicks back some of that $50M he got from Jerrah back in the day.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Daddy bribed some team to draft him. Maybe with a promise of a scholarship for someone's kid.

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48 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

I love their uniforms so much:

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"This helmet's amazing"

"What? Fuck man, you can't do that, we'll get sued by Notre Dame"

"Ok ok. Just stretch a black jock strap over it and paint Iowa on it"

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10 minutes ago, Modessit said:

After Deion kicks back some of that $50M he got from Jerrah back in the day.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if Daddy bribed some team to draft him. Maybe with a promise of a scholarship for someone's kid.

Jerrah might completely over look the drama it would cause and view it rather as attention. Cause all attention is good attention and sells tickets. 

No matter the fucking shit storm and damage... hurricanes sell. 

So... I sadly can't picture Sanders ending up anywhere else. 

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“Took two programs to unprecedented heights.”
Really? A record of 13-12 record with zero bowl wins and zero conference titles is “unprecedented heights” for Colorado? 
Who is Field Yates, and why is he on my TV?
 

Not defending them but they were really bad. Not ring of honor worthy but they were awful.
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34 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

There is no question, but, that is not the way of the modern NFL. Every team, even the Packers or the Patriots, has fallen prey to drafting the next guy in the very high rounds.  Most of the time, it doesn’t work for the bulk of the league.  Sitting the bench early and learning for your first 2-4 seasons simply is never done. If it was, stache has a point. The model is drafting guys with a ton of starts and letting them sink or swim. Shedeur never was good enough to be a “good” starter in the NFL as stache said. He’s just wrong. 

I do agree with the idea that guys starting against quality competition in college is a good metric. But I do feel some guys could benefit from the old model…even tho it’s few and far between

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3 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Repost because some of y'all seem to have forgotten this.

Now, think about the fact that Sanders is worse. Look at his completion percentage over 20 yds. It sucks. Now ask yourself if you can remember if he ever took responsibility for a loss, a bad decision, or anything ever. Now ask yourself what did he say in the interviews he did decide to attend that was so off-putting that those teams won't touch him. Add all that together and here we are. Ignore Kiper. Ignore anything and anyone that omits or glosses over the above known conditions. Completion percentage isn't the only stat that matters. He's not that great. He's not really even very good. He padded his stats and he was coddled his entire life. He cannot abide criticism. Milroe's team didn't want him back. Now ask yourself if he was that bad how much worse is Sanders if Milroe went before him. There's no conspiracy. They aren't overlooking anything. He's a big bunch of suck and he's fucking radioactive. 

Rep for "golden retriever staring at a nuclear bomb blueprint".

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15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Fucking all of this 

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I have waffled between saying-

“No way would I draft Shedeur.” (January)

…and saying-

“I wouldn’t draft him before the 3rd round.” (Thursday)

But now I am back on record as saying…

”No way would I draft Shedeur.” (Tonight)

 

Drafting Shedeur would be worse than drafting a mediocre one of Lavar Ball’s sons if Lavar had Charles Barkley’s platform and a much more vicious demeanor.

100% NOT WORTH IT !!

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Man, it Shoughed to be Shedeur Sanders Friday night.

Wait. You haven’t heard of Tyler Shough? Welcome to the party.

The last name is pronounced “Shuck,” by the way. He’s 25 years old, a strapping 6-foot-4 dude from Chandler, Ariz. Shough played college ball for seven seasons and three schools, a road that weaved through Oregon, Texas Tech and Louisville.

He only appeared in more than seven games in a season once, though — last fall, when he threw for 3,195 yards, 23 touchdowns and six interceptions.

Dude was the only quarterback taken early in the second round of the 2025 NFL Draft. And the third QB selected overall.

As Coach Prime might say: Aw, Shoughs.


Cam Ward? Gone. Jaxson Dart? Gone. Shough? Gone. Jalen Milroe? Gone, snapped up by Seattle with pick No. 92. Dillon Gabriel? Tapped by the Browns at No. 94.

Shedeur, Mel Kiper’s “best available,” remained on the board at the end of Friday night, through the first three rounds of the draft. The Cleve passed on CU’s best-ever passer five times. The Giants passed on him three times, and even traded up late in the first round to draft a QB — Dart — who wasn’t him.


Shedeur heard his name called dozens of times during ESPN’s draft coverage. Just not by anybody at the podium in Green Bay.

Day 3? Mercy me.


Did Deion Sanders put a tariff on Cleveland? Is there a trade war between Boulder and the Meadowlands?

On one hand, you felt sorry for No. 2 as he slid. And slid. And slid. Nobody throws for 134 passing touchdowns and 14,347 yards over four college seasons if they’re all hat and no cattle.

On the other hand, you wonder if Shedeur got some questionable advice from those who should’ve known better.

The Sanders Family guard their trust and value control. Of the narrative. Of perceptions. Of a football program. It’s made Coach Prime one of the top 10 highest-paid college football coaches in the country and turned his CU Buffs into must-see TV. Deion Sanders single-handedly made the Buffs a national brand, albeit one tied inextricably to his own.

Yet here’s the thing about the NFL, and about NFL front offices in general: They don’t give a hoot. Nothing and nobody is bigger than the Shield. Well, except Tom Brady.

Until you win in the league, the league calls the shots. A player can get the type of clout to dictate terms at the next level — but they’ve got to go out and play well enough to earn it first.

Shedeur didn’t throw at the combine. He didn’t run at the combine. He didn’t participate in the Senior Bowl. His advisers followed their CU playbook: We’re doing this on our terms. We’re going to change the draft game, too.

In Boulder, it’s worked like a charm. The NFL wasn’t interested.

“The postgames where you’re throwing your teammates under the bus,” Ourlads.com analyst Dave Syvertsen told me earlier in the week, “that wouldn’t fly in the NFL. Especially when your dad’s not in the locker room with you.”

Deion has been Shedeur’s coach for as long as anybody can remember. Again, it’s worked out so far. But no pro coach knows with 100% certainty what happens to Shedeur when things hit the fan on a football team where the buck doesn’t stop with his dad.

“To me, it seems like, if I had to point to one thing, it’s the Nebraska loss (last fall) early in the year, where he immediately threw his offensive line under the bus,” Syvertsen continued. “That was a huge red flag for me. And that was (one) to a lot of people.”

More people than we’d figured, apparently. Something sure as heck was said to somebody. Maybe several somebodies.

Like Nikola Jokic, ex-CU Buffs great Travis Hunter made everybody around him better. But I also spent two years watching Shedeur dice defenses without No. 12 raising Cain on the perimeter. In four games in which Hunter played a few or no snaps in 2023, Sanders threw for 10 scores with two picks while averaging almost 280 passing yards. In two games last fall with limited or no Travis: five scores, three picks and 319 passing yards per game.

Everybody remembers the beatdown in Oregon. But have you already forgotten how Shedeur matched Caleb Williams, drive for drive, while Hunter was in sweats?

On the flip side, Shedeur spent Thursday night watching the first round from a custom-made room with his “Legendary” brand emblazoned everywhere. Which, in hindsight, was probably not the ideal public rebuttal against anonymous coaches who threw shade his way.

You know a story’s got legs when Donald Trump decides to weigh in on social media.

The president went to his Truth Social app to call NFL teams “STUPID” in all caps for not taking Shedeur. He then praised Deion for two sentences before declaring that Shedeur “has PHENOMENAL GENES, and is all set for Greatness. He should be ‘picked’ IMMEDIATELY by a team that wants to WIN. Good luck Shedeur, and say hello to your wonderful father!”

Shedeur was not picked immediately.

It should also be noted that Trump loves to needle the NFL, as it’s one of the country clubs that repeatedly rejected his membership. The real-estate mogul/TV personality reportedly made a play for the Baltimore Colts in the ’80s and, more recently, took a run at the Bills.

Like Coach Prime, our Commander-in-Chief rarely forgets a slight. Alas, as a football pundit, he’s got only a slightly better batting average than Kiper does right about now. One of the last times Trump went to bat this strongly for a rookie quarterback was in 2014, and that QB was … Johnny Manziel. Oy, vey.

“Teams are making a big mistake not taking Johnny Manziel,” then-citizen Trump posted to then-Twitter on May 8 of that year. “He is going to be really good (and exciting to watch).”

Manziel was neither really good nor exciting to watch in the NFL.

It’s not all gloomy at the Champions Center, mind you: Shedeur’s old running mate Travis Hunter found a nice landing spot as the No. 2 pick overall to Jacksonville.

You wouldn’t wish a Jaguars life on anybody, but Jacksonville’s got at least things four things going for it that’ll help the two-way wonder, in theory: 1) Proximity to his extended family in Florida; 2) a young, good (ish) QB in Trevor Lawrence to find him the rock; 3) a faceless, “meh” franchise that has nothing to lose and should happily let him play wherever he wants; and 4) a comparatively small media market. The Jags need a star, need a face. Heisman Hunter ticks both boxes immediately.

Sanders could be that face, too. But as of late Friday night, Shedeur, the golden arm with the diamond watch, was still on the clock, still waiting while his draft stock Shoughed wind. And you wonder how much of the last four months, in hindsight, he would do all over again.

 

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Yikes I have not watched the draft, but hoo boy this Sanders deal is going to be interesting when he’s finally taken. The Raiders seem like the kind of team he should be on, but wouldn’t shock me if Dallas took him.

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29 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

Yikes I have not watched the draft, but hoo boy this Sanders deal is going to be interesting when he’s finally taken. The Raiders seem like the kind of team he should be on, but wouldn’t shock me if Dallas took him.

When or if?

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11 minutes ago, Uncle Nate said:

When or if?

Doesn’t matter. Someone will take him. He’s good. Not great, but good and that should be enough in a league that has a shortage of even average talent at that position. Set aside the outside noise that will eventually die down and you have someone who will be a QB in this league.

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6 hours ago, MrX said:

A whole lot of y’all and suddenly putting copious amounts of faith into NFL front office thinking and decision making. 
 

I think there are a few unassailable facts. One, Shadeur Sanders was a very good and arguably great college QB. Two, from a talent perspective, he is a top 3 QB in this draft. Three, he has flaws preventing him from being some surefire top 3/5/15 pick. Four, he almost assuredly is a diva, and Deion brings additional bullshit into the fold. Five, NFL draft history shows that at some point, talent outweighs your off field/personal stuff and a guy with baggage is picked after a justified slide because of it. 
 

What’s fucked up to me about this situation is that the “point” in fact five above, no matter what the draft circumstances, would’ve come well before Dillon fucking Gabriel got drafted by the neediest QB team in the entire draft outside of Pittsburgh after Cam Ward was taken one.  There is no way Sanders is a Day 3 pick in this draft (and probably 80 percent of others) from a talent perspective even with the “baggage slide” built in.

 

That tells me something else is going on here.  Yes, it’s probably Deion being a helicopter moron who made some outrageous demands that blew up in his face, but that’s not covering every cause here…

 


I have a friend in the Bears organization that told me the story going around about Sanders is during an interview with a team, he asked them why he should play for their organization. Effectively demanding the team sell him on their franchise. It was do off putting that most teams simply removed him off their draft board entirely. 

The perception on Sanders is that he is so entitled that no one believes he will do the work and be patient enough to be an NFL QB. I’m sure his father retiring his jersey just played into that perception. Someone will take him but only as a flyer to see if he comes is without that entitlement. 

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20 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

Doesn’t matter. Someone will take him. He’s good. Not great, but good and that should be enough in a league that has a shortage of even average talent at that position. Set aside the outside noise that will eventually die down and you have someone who will be a QB in this league.

I will share with you two QBs who were far superior to Shedeur.

#1

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#2

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These guys were very good. Shedeur is not this good. Teams passed on them year after year.

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You have to wonder if there is a chance he doesn’t get drafted at all. Does a GM and owner want to take on the circus drama of the Sanders family for a late round pick? Do you want to deal with Deion publicly and constantly declaring that the starting QB should be benched and replaced by Shedeur?

I have to guess that someone will draft him because why not.

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3 minutes ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Albert Breer:

Abdul Carter can turn down interviews like he did with the Jags and Raiders.  Sheduer was telling teams he wasn’t a fit for their team 

Albert Breer is an access merchant and I am dubious of anything a paid shill says. Same with the Schefters of the world.

That said I am someone that thinks these interviews are ridiculous. We have seen in the past some of the insane questions they ask prospects. I have zero issue with any player that would allegedly tell a team they do not fit with them. If a team doesn’t want to take him they have that right as well. Sanders can play at the NFL level and he’ll find a fit somewhere. I am not a fan of his, but I don’t hate him either. He’s brash like his father and that rubs GM/control freaks the wrong way. We’ll see what team drafts him or failing that which team invites him as a free agent. 

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