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19 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

The Panthers and Miami should also be considered possibilities. Tua is a play away from brain damage and B Young kind of sucks.  They can kick the tires on Sanders for cheap and still be in the mix for a QB next draft if it all falls apart. 
 

The Rams and Arizona also fit in the low risk high reward category for Sanders

Tua is also immobile with a rag arm

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IMHO, the risk only grows the more he slides. People keep making the point that teams can now take a flyer on him with no risk because he can now be cut with no exposure.

I think it’s precisely the opposite. If someone takes a flyer now, they get all the circus, and if they cut him they’re immediately trumpeted as racists.
 

I now think it’s entirely conceivable he goes undrafted. This is amazing, and I’m here for it. 

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53 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Man, this is just a brutal look


This is exactly what I was told. And if he is doing that before he is drafted, imagine the trouble he will be when he is under contract. He’s simply not worth drafting. 

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Someone earlier mentioned that no credible draft analysts had him going before the 3rd or 4th round. I believe that, because it makes a lot of sense & I never thought Sanders was anything more than a middling college talent with a lot of unwarranted hype, but I don't follow these draft analysts too closely.

Anyone remember any of the analysts who had him lower in the draft? (I could use that info to shut someone up)

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1 hour ago, Rimbo said:

One: He's the CU equivalent of Texas' James Brown, talent-wise; a good college QB who shook things up when a good program was down, surrounded by some talent that made him look better.

Two: Aww hell no. The only QB taken so far where you MIGHT claim he's better than is Milroe, and he's not as good as Ewers (anyone who says otherwise doesn't know football well; Ewers is falling because of his injury history, nothing more).

Just because a bunch of people SAY he's talented over and over doesn't make it true: Look up the Illusory Truth Effect.

The bolded isn't true, or at the very least isn't true the way you think it is true.

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Sanders’ potential floor is a lot lower than just his measurables and production points to, because if he does struggle at all it is almost a guaranteed media shitshow led by his father. That is scaring teams off and his ceiling is not near high enough to justify the role of the dice.

Going in later rounds to a place like Pittsburg with a strong FO that can weather storms and criticism is a best case for him as opposed to being anointed off the bat.  But even that likely won’t be enough. He’d need to commit to STFU and work the process and he won’t. 

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Looking at 4th round pick order right now and I feel pretty good that one or both of Gunnar and Quinn get selected. I would like to see Quinn with a HC that knows how to develop QBs. While a great coordinator is wonderful…they always leave and when they do the QB they have been developing reverts back to bad habits. 
 

Gunnar is a good fit imo on most any team and it’s a steal imo. But I’m biased. 

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4 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Sanders’ potential floor is a lot lower than just his measurables and production points to, because if he does struggle at all it is almost a guaranteed media shitshow led by his father. That is scaring teams off and his ceiling is not near high enough to justify the role of the dice.

Going in later rounds to a place like Pittsburg with a strong FO that can weather storms and criticism is a best case for him as opposed to being anointed off the bat.  But even that likely won’t be enough. He’d need to commit to STFU and work the process and he won’t. 

Shadeur IS the process.  When Sanders plays the Daddy card...

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17 minutes ago, wood said:

Someone earlier mentioned that no credible draft analysts had him going before the 3rd or 4th round.

That's not true. Schrager and Jeremiah had him going #21 to the Steelers. McShay had him in the 2nd IIRC.  AFAIK none of the analysts predicted he would fall to round three, and nobody had him lower than the #3 QB taken. 

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The President popping off only makes everything worse. Now it’s potentially political. 
 

I guess some team could do him like the Mets and Tebow and just milk it  for shirt sales.

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1 minute ago, CurlyDumps said:

That's not true. Schrager and Jeremiah had him going #21 to the Steelers. McShay had him in the 2nd IIRC.  AFAIK none of the analysts predicted he would fall to round three, and nobody had him lower than the #3 QB taken. 

McShay had him at 33.
Jeremiah ranked him as #20, but the mocks had him at 21.  
nfl.com's Parr and Davis had him outside the first round.

I gave up searching, but here is what I have.

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I follow Etan Thomas, former NBA player, on a social media site, and he continues to intimate racism.  Goes so far as to say Sanders is better than Baker Mayfield and Johnny Manziel - and they were arrogant, too.

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Why would a team take him as a developmental pick?   Backup qbs are expected to know the playbook and cause no problems.  A team is asking for a shitshow doing that with Sanders.  I think going undrafted might be an actual possibility.

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3 minutes ago, boilerhorn said:

I follow Etan Thomas, former NBA player, on a social media site, and he continues to intimate racism.  Goes so far as to say Sanders is better than Baker Mayfield and Johnny Manziel - and they were arrogant, too.

I volunteer the Browns to draft him also then.

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Just now, westexhorn said:

Its the fucking circus effect.  No wants to deal with that bullshit.

The Kap comparison is very apt. Decent, but not great, QB. Signing him would’ve been a massive risk, because if he didn’t start (he’d already been benched before the circus), the race-baiting would be devastating.
 

Same thing here. Sure, most teams could use a developmental QB. But no one wants the crap show that will come which him being a developmental QB, or, worse, a firestorm if they cut him for attitude. 

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The #1 draft pick in the last 3 years and 4 of the last 7 have been black QBs, including the 2025 #1, Cam Ward.

4 of the last 7 NFL MVPs and 4 of the last 6 Super Bowl MVPs have been black QBs.

 

in a copy cat league, I'm sure it's racism driving the shunning of Shedeur Sanders.

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Deion can cry about it, but the first pick in the draft he has a problem with was a black qb and a couple more guys went in the first 3 rounds.  Stupid people will buy in, but it’s not gonna gain traction.

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22 minutes ago, nnm said:

The Kap comparison is very apt. Decent, but not great, QB. Signing him would’ve been a massive risk, because if he didn’t start (he’d already been benched before the circus), the race-baiting would be devastating.
 

Same thing here. Sure, most teams could use a developmental QB. But no one wants the crap show that will come which him being a developmental QB, or, worse, a firestorm if they cut him for attitude. 

Yep.  It isn't collusion when you are a pompous entitled ass with mid level talent. You just aren't worth the hassle. And Kaepernick is the perfect comp. 

Shedeur is going to have to accept the discount required for someone to give him an opportunity. How he reacts to that will ultimately tell his story.

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Jets and Raiders already pass on him in round 4. Raiders and Steelers still have a pick this round and if they don’t draft him here I’m wondering if Sanders goes undrafted. 

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56 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

The President popping off only makes everything worse. Now it’s potentially political. 
 

I guess some team could do him like the Mets and Tebow and just milk it  for shirt sales.

Tim will probably wind up with more NFL playoff wins than Sanders. 

So I’ve got that going for me, which is nice…

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Feels like if Sanders’ dad was Joe Sanders the plumber who didn’t do social media he might have been drafted by now. 
 

Live by the nepotism die by the nepotism 

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Crazy times we are living in when the only two Sooners so far to get drafted have been in Round 4

We have been there and even worse so it’s stunning to me I guess. Sooners have been a force my whole life save the Blake years and Stoops took that talent and won with it but they have always been a stable team until Lincoln left them like a bitch in the night. 

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i’m probably a shitty person for being so happy about this, but fuck everybody in Deion Sanders’ family from his ancient ancestors to all of his future great, great, grandkids.

IOW, Go Gators !

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3 hours ago, Rimbo said:

One: He's the CU equivalent of Texas' James Brown, talent-wise; a good college QB who shook things up when a good program was down, surrounded by some talent that made him look better.

Two: Aww hell no. The only QB taken so far where you MIGHT claim he's better than is Milroe, and he's not as good as Ewers (anyone who says otherwise doesn't know football well; Ewers is falling because of his injury history, nothing more).

Just because a bunch of people SAY he's talented over and over doesn't make it true: Look up the Illusory Truth Effect.

Nah. I watched the games. Sanders was a very good CFB QB. He's not falling because of lack of talent or production. He's taking because he did not carry himself like a pro QB in too many situations. The negative culture traits are stacked.

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1 hour ago, nnm said:

The Kap comparison is very apt. Decent, but not great, QB. Signing him would’ve been a massive risk, because if he didn’t start (he’d already been benched before the circus), the race-baiting would be devastating.
 

Same thing here. Sure, most teams could use a developmental QB. But no one wants the crap show that will come which him being a developmental QB, or, worse, a firestorm if they cut him for attitude. 

That's insulting to Kaepernick, lol. He had a couple of good playoff runs and went to a super bowl. He had decent arm talent and some wheels.

 

Sanders doesn't compare to him, Baker, or Manziel in the talent dept. He is vastly inferior to all those guys from a pure ability standpoint.

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Whoo hoo Edge Barryn Sorrell 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
 

he was there so he gets to be on stage!

 

two Longhorns as packers fucking a!  It’s so cool watching them show Barryn around the set up so he can meet the fans, 🤘🏼🤘🏼

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4 hours ago, Im_smarter_then_you said:

Sanders apologist Joel Klatt:

maybe time for some deep self reflection for Sheduer.   He bombed the interviews

 

now you’re drafting for a backup and no HC woants their backup qb to be a distraction.  

Tj houshramalamadingdong said the same thing 

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1 hour ago, someguy said:

The bolded isn't true, or at the very least isn't true the way you think it is true.

I'm gonna just say that most people outside of this board seem to think his skills are better than most of the people on this board and leave it at that. He's got obvious flaws, but then, so does everyone else in this draft. But none of those guys have  failed to play an entire season since their sophomore year in high school.

He's made of glass.

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2 hours ago, bullzak said:

Re: the Diboll interview I watched the Hard Knocks deal on NY Giants when they were looking at QB last years draft. 
 

Jaden Daniels is sitting by whiteboard and Diboll gives him some uber verbose play call. Daniels repeats it verbatim, draws it on the board and answers a few questions about what everyone does. He sits down and Diboll chats him up about his family etc for a few minutes. Then he asks him to repeat the play call and Daniels does so flawlessly. It was damn impressive. 
 

And besides the obvious talent difference there’s your contrast with Sanders. 

Yeah I remember that.  Actually, Daniels made a mistake that demonstrated his understanding of the call even more. I forget the exact detail but what they call an "H" at LSU, the Giant call it an "F" or something like that.  One of the slot receivers.  So when they went through it the first time, Diboll tells him, we call that guy an F here.  When Daniels repeats the play, he mistakenly calls the F an H, Diboll corrects him again and they all laugh.  So he knew the play, just got the terminology slightly wrong.  The verbal equivalent of a typo.

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1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m probably a shitty person for being so happy about this, but fuck everybody in Deion Sanders’ family from his ancient ancestors to all of his future great, great, grandkids.

IOW, Go Gators !

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I venture to claim the number of folks who are truly outraged by this dude not getting drafted is limited to just his family & inner circle.  The rest are just actors....

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