Ruth Bader Ginsburg is dead

[hayden_horn 11401]

yeah lol, this is certainly the funny time

[Celery Man 21076]

 

It would be disingenuous to pretend to not understand what the big deal is, but republicans of the late trump era have no honesty or integrity, so not a surprise there.

[Fozzz 152]

23 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

I see zero posts indicating how an additional conservative Supreme Court justice is going to endanger the livelihood of women and LGBTQ.

Going to be awkward for them to argue that it will endanger women when he picks Amy Barrett. 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

 

It would be disingenuous to pretend to not understand what the big deal is, but republicans of the late trump era have no honesty or integrity, so not a surprise there.

Fucking drive by neg on this from a lurker.  @dOUblewideCome out and defend it you fucking pussy.

[troph 25089]

Going to be awkward for them to argue that it will endanger women when he picks Amy Barrett. 

Well rich white women will still be able to get abortions. It’s the poor, rural, women of color that won’t. So to be clear when we say endanger women we mean republicans will still make sure theirs can get abortions quietly but the poors, dems and women of color cannot.

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Fucking drive by neg on this from a lurker.  @dOUblewideCome out and defend it you fucking pussy.

Snowflake 

[Biff Tannen 46061]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

Snowflake 

Piece of shit

[GRHorn 105]

I was told only Republicans run on fear. This thread would suggest otherwise. 
 

They’re coming for your guns = They’re coming for your uteri. 

[Irwin F Fletcher 3555]

Why not done?!?!?

Most of us have him on ignore, it makes for a better Surly experience.

[Fozzz 152]

5 minutes ago, troph said:

Well rich white women will still be able to get abortions. It’s the poor, rural, women of color that won’t. So to be clear when we say endanger women we mean republicans will still make sure theirs can get abortions quietly but the poors, dems and women of color cannot.

We were moving in that direction with RBG on the court, and I think that will continue to be the case. No reason to risk the backlash with overturning Roe when you can accomplish the same end by allowing red states to pass whatever restrictions they wish. 

[GRHorn 105]

1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

Piece of shit

The CR, a place where a silent act of dissent from the orthodoxy brings rage and curses. Nice level of discourse we have here. Grow up. 

[Macanudo 13254]

27 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Roe v Wade won't be "reversed," i.e. abortion won't be made federally illegal.  The decision will just be struck down so that abortion legality will get kicked back to the states  And then it'll be made illegal throughout the entire Deep South and a lot of girls who can't afford to drive a thousand miles will have unsafe "back alley" abortions and some of them will die.  And, ironically, all of you good Christian Republicans don't give a solitary fuck about that.

And I wouldn't say Republicans are going after the livelihood of the gay community.  But y'all sure aren't big fans of them having the same civil rights that you and I do, as if they're human beings or something.

Republicans will just paint those poor women who got abortions as sinners.

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

The CR, a place where a silent act of dissent from the orthodoxy brings rage and curses. Nice level of discourse we have here. Grow up. 

Be careful what you say here or they will try to censor you by negging you hundreds of times.  

[troph 25089]

I was told only Republicans run on fear. This thread would suggest otherwise. 
 
They’re coming for your guns = They’re coming for your uteri. 

Not afraid, just angry that morally bankrupt white men are trying to run a racket on the rest of us.

[troph 25089]

I was told only Republicans run on fear. This thread would suggest otherwise. 
 
They’re coming for your guns = They’re coming for your uteri. 

Except one is false and the other is true.

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, troph said:

Not afraid, just angry that morally bankrupt white men are trying to run a racket on the rest of us.

Why does it matter that they are white men?  If the situation were reversed and the richest people in this country tended to be black women everything would be hunky dory?

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Be careful what you say here or they will try to censor you by negging you hundreds of times.  

Too late. I have one poster following me around that does it constantly. The ultimate snowflake. Hi @UpperWestside

[TexArcher 38816]

20 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Don't even wait for her to be buried, you classless piece of shit.

 

[GRHorn 105]

3 minutes ago, troph said:

Except one is false and the other is true.

Sensible gun control 

Sensible abortion restrictions 

Presidential candidates that claim to disagree with Heller case

Presidential candidates that claim to disagree with roe v wade 

Edited September 19, 2020 by GRHorn

[troph 25089]

Be careful what you say here or they will try to censor you by negging you hundreds of times.  

I won’t neg you at all, but your party is a morally bankrupt hypocritical operation the likes of which compare more to the Pharisees which Jesus continually rebuked. So I’m keeping with the Christian theme I’ll just continue to call it as it is. Moral bankruptcy. You don’t have the high ground punishing women of color, rural women and poor women. You are in the gutter with the worst of them.

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, troph said:

I won’t neg you at all, but your party is a morally bankrupt hypocritical operation the likes of which compare more to the Pharisees which Jesus continually rebuked. So I’m keeping with the Christian theme I’ll just continue to call it as it is. Moral bankruptcy. You don’t have the high ground punishing women of color, rural women and poor women. You are in the gutter with the worst of them.

I've never voted for a Republican in my life.

[troph 25089]

Why does it matter that they are white men?  If the situation were reversed and the richest people in this country tended to be black women everything would be hunky dory?

Let’s stay in realityville please. But in alternative universe where whites are the enslaved population and had to have their own civil rights movement and the aliens continue to systematically oppress the white man then yes you would be correct.

[Biff Tannen 46061]

1 hour ago, GRHorn said:

The CR, a place where a silent act of dissent from the orthodoxy brings rage and curses. Nice level of discourse we have here. Grow up. 

Go fuck your own face.

[TexArcher 38816]

1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

Sensible gun control 

Sensible abortion restrictions 

And you actually think that's a reasonable comparison.  Good lord.

Let me help you: one can be used to murder a classroom full of school children and the other is a deeply personal decision about what happens literally inside the decider's own body.

[troph 25089]

I've never voted for a Republican in my life.

Then you’re a troll. Congratulations for making it one rung up from the bottom.

[GRHorn 105]

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

Go fuck your own face.

Bless your heart 

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, troph said:

Let’s stay in realityville please. But in alternative universe where whites are the enslaved population and had to have their own civil rights movement and the aliens continue to systematically oppress the white man then yes you would be correct.

Is it your belief that human history is defined by struggle between different races?

[Pancho 46054]

 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5854]

12 hours ago, BradInATX said:

I think it's a bit group-thinky to negbomb Fozz. You may think his takes are stupid and they often are, but he's genuine and he's intellectually consistent (which a lot on this board are not). It's nice to see someone defending their opinions without using stupid memes or disingenuity like many, even if end of day I think a lot of his beliefs are wackadoo. It's weak sauce to try to fatwa him, don't do it.

This hillbilly moron travelingtexan who is almost assuredly a sock, probably stone oak, on the other hand... 

 

11 hours ago, Fozzz said:

Dems wouldn’t dare try to expand SCOTUS.    No one who isn’t a fucking child believes otherwise. 

 

Give Fozzz a chance to make you look like a total fucking dumbass and he's going to knock it out of the park. 

[GRHorn 105]

Just now, TexArcher said:

And you actually think that's a reasonable comparison.  Good lord.

Let me help you: one can be used to murder a classroom full of school children and the other is a deeply personal decision about what happens literally inside the decider's own body.

One is about being able to defend yourself. 

One is about defending those that can’t defend themselves. 
 

It’s ok. The two sides value different things.  Just pointing out that they’re the big “fear issues” for the Supreme Court. 

[Dnaguy 12572]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The fact that we even have to make a prediction is a huge problem. 

Also, define "in any substantial way". 

Rich white women will still be able to obtain abortions.

No harm, no foul.

[Fozzz 152]

lol yeah i'm the idiot for thinking the party of Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer have any interest in making such a dramatic change to the judiciary and for exactly what purpose?

[GRHorn 105]

3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

On the flip side, Dems are already going to scare people into voting now no matter what. There will be ZERO credit given for holding back. Might as well do what you can while you can. 

[GRHorn 105]

CR right now

 

[hayden_horn 11401]

now that i'm at a keyboard, a few thoughts. 

this is pretty much the worst case scenario, and that includes you republicans also. i understand this has been the endgame for some time now, for both parties, but this is bad for america.

as a country, we need balance. we need it in congress, we need it in our courtrooms, we need it in the ebb and flow of the executive's politics. it is part of what has made america's grand democratic experiment so successful; it's what has made us progress as a nation. and it was firmly a part of my voting identity - i liked to think of myself as a republican/liberterian/independent - a person who could try and pick the best candidate regardless of party.

however, since nixon's cynical jihad, partisan politics on the republican side have become a very zero sum game. where once there was a gentleman's understanding of winning and losing, there is now an active attempt to overtake the system of winning and losing so that it really does not matter. many republicans will point to bork as a galvanizing element for this weird endgame around the supreme court. most forget that bork was the guy who fucking fired archibald cox in the saturday night massacre. he was a coward, and did not deserve to serve as supreme court justice, and was rightfully denied. somehow, however, like the confederate generals, this became some sort of actual righteous battlecry for republicans. that somehow, by denying a bad candidate for the court, republicans became the victims. it all really started with nixon. as hunter thompson so eloquently eulogized :

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He has poisoned our water forever. Nixon will be remembered as a classic case of a smart man shitting in his own nest. But he also shit in our nests, and that was the crime that history will burn on his memory like a brand. By disgracing and degrading the Presidency of the United States, by fleeing the White House like a diseased cur, Richard Nixon broke the heart of the American Dream.

he was not wrong. 

and now we have donald trump, and his potential third supreme court justice nomination. mitch had done the maths. he had it figured in 2016. he knew three were coming. and he decided to short-circuit our government to achieve some sort of comeuppance. it is no longer about governance for the gop. since nixon resigned, it has been about revenge, and victimhood, and that's pretty much it. it's been about getting even, or even getting over. i don't think i realized that until recently. i watch how conservative posters on the football and the daily texan boards conduct themselves, and it is so much more about a middle finger in your face than it is about actually discussing a thing. that's why they largely fled the cloak room. the "fuck your feelings" shirt and banner are the most honest thing about modern day republicans. they have no defense, they are constantly on offense. they are the mike leach texas tech football team, except they actually have the support of the regents. they are still winning many elections across the country.

we have to make that stop. we have to vote. i am now....a democrat. for the foreseeable future. the republicans are not about good policy any longer, if they ever were in my lifetime. they are about enriching themselves and their donors. they aren't for the little guy, and it is fucking puzzling why any little guys vote for them. we need to disabuse them of that notion. you are not the next rich guy getting a massive tax break that he doesn't need. you are the fucking downtrodden. and you are that way because of republican policies. 

judicial activism is a phrase the republicans like to use. it's because every accusation is actually a confession. they want judicial activism. it has been their endgame for 50 years now. i'm only sad i've only just become aware of the cynicism. they are actively undermining our system. and now they've achieved their dream. a packed court.

i will never vote for another republican ever again i don't think. you put an (R) next to your name, and you are telling me that you are out to fuck me and mine so you can get yours. i'm not sure i fully will ever trust democrats, but for now, i'm definitely with them because fuck the rest of you. it's all so surreal. 

Edited September 19, 2020 by hayden_horn

[TexArcher 38816]

1 minute ago, GRHorn said:

On the flip side, Dems are already going to scare people into voting now no matter what. There will be ZERO credit given for holding back. Might as well do what you can while you can. 

Yeah, how dare those evil Democrats encourage high voter turnout.

 

[Neonmoon 38130]

Republican = I can’t believe the lack of civil discourse as I take away your rights. 

[yoladu 4187]

33 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

Going to be awkward for them to argue that it will endanger women when he picks Amy Barrett. 

why? is she pro-choice?

[GRHorn 105]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Republican = I can’t believe the lack of civil discourse as I take away your rights. 

Which rights have been taken away?

[Sawbonz 28081]

1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

My wife and I discussed it last night: it must have been either Kavanaugh or Ginny Thomas who gave them a heads up.

I mean she had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that “came back” for the 3rd time recently. No one needed to give a heads up

[Fozzz 152]

1 minute ago, yoladu said:

why? is she pro-choice?

Because she has a uterus and liberals have a tendency to essentialize races and sexes. This is why they believe representation is so important. 

[wildcat09 29556]

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Republican = I can’t believe the lack of civil discourse as I take away your rights. 

Republicans while choking the life out of you: “Good heavens, I can’t believe how rude you’re being to me!”

Fuck these people. Fuck every one of them. 

[Hank Kingsley 21598]

 

[Bateshorn 9989]

35 minutes ago, troph said:

Well rich white women will still be able to get abortions. It’s the poor, rural, women of color that won’t. So to be clear when we say endanger women we mean republicans will still make sure theirs can get abortions quietly but the poors, dems and women of color cannot.

White women are foot soldiers for the patriarchy.

[Celery Man 21076]

13 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

On the flip side, Dems are already going to scare people into voting now no matter what. There will be ZERO credit given for holding back. Might as well do what you can while you can. 

the reason you would not do this is because when we win both the legislative and the executive we are going to take your party out back and shoot it in the fucking head, and then rewrite the constitution to fix our government

if you don't like rules, if you don't give a shit about "decorum" or basic concepts of fairness and representative democracy, prepare to be silenced

[cactusflinthead 27626]

15 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

lol yeah i'm the idiot 

Why yes, yes you are. 

Keep talking it up. 

[hayden_horn 11401]

Just now, Celery Man said:

the reason you would not do this is because when we win both the legislative and the executive we are going to take your party out back and shoot it in the fucking head, and then rewrite the constitution to fix our government

if you don't like rules, if you don't give a shit about "decorum" or basic concepts of fairness and representative democracy, prepare to be silenced

this is a more succinct post of where i am at. the republican party needs to end. 

[Horn Dog 10156]

5 minutes ago, GRHorn said:

Which rights have been taken away?

You gotta love the innocent republican “why the outrage?” shrug every time they pull their latest shittery.

[troph 25089]

I’d like balance too but we need a conservative party that doesn’t have retaliation and punishment of people of color, LGBTQ folk and women as a founding pillar. Family values should include queer families and immigrant families. DACA is humane it’s not R or D. I could go on and on. The only way to get balance back is to bury this GOP. Bury them with out remorse and our future generations of progressives and conservatives will thank us.

[Bateshorn 9989]

12 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I mean she had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that “came back” for the 3rd time recently. No one needed to give a heads up

My guess is she went into hospice in the last 7-10 days.  At that point it went from “she’s sick but working” to “it’s happening”

Edited September 19, 2020 by Bateshorn