Cowboys vs Falcons: Week 2

[Hagbard Celine 10771]

holyshit i just got a text i owed someone a ben.  turn on the tv.  what. the. fuck.

[Pato del Muerto 52354]

4 minutes ago, Wanker Bob said:

Yes because if you fail the conversion after that last score it's the same difference. Same situation. Exactly. 

This game isn't over because atlanta made the biggest fuck up of the season for any team. Maybe the biggest fuck up of a couple seasons. 

If you don’t go for it the first score, you don’t make sure to leave time for another drive. If we kick to get to 29, then take all the time getting the last td only to fail the conversion, there’s no time for the possession after the onside kick to move into fg range. That’s why you go for it after the first td. 

[dcar00 14036]

thats gonna be a long as plane ride back to atlanta.

[Wanker Bob 379]

They should change that onside kick rule to where no one can tough it before 10 yds. Would make it far more interesting

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

Fuck yes what a win.

[Drew 2331]

Watch Dallas beat Seattle.

And then lose to the Giants or whoever crappy team is next.

That’s the way we go.

[Sgt Hulk 13648]

McCarthy will lead us to the Super Bowl 🤣🤣

[C-Man 27072]

Falcons going for two at 26-7 was a dunderhead move.

[dcar00 14036]

how is the kicker not the player of the game?

[Fuck Tim Beck 3806]

3 minutes ago, Chips O'Toole said:

Richard Jewell Head Coach of the Year!!!

That's an explosive take. 

[Horn80 6075]

Lots TVs probably just got broken in Atlanta.  

[immortal13 4059]

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

Falcons going for two at 26-7 was a dunderhead move.

yup

[Wanker Bob 379]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If you don’t go for it the first score, you don’t make sure to leave time for another drive. If we kick to get to 29, then take all the time getting the last td only to fail the conversion, there’s no time for the possession after the onside kick to move into fg range. That’s why you go for it after the first td. 

That's not true the time would have been the same. You would have played for the TD the same way. You don't bleed the clock like it's a last second field goal attempt to win when you're down 8. 

[Pato del Muerto 52354]

Now, the falcons going for 2 in the second quarter, that’s too early to be chasing scores. And that should be questioned. 

[dcar00 14036]

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If you don’t go for it the first score, you don’t make sure to leave time for another drive. If we kick to get to 29, then take all the time getting the last td only to fail the conversion, there’s no time for the possession after the onside kick to move into fg range. That’s why you go for it after the first td. 

if you are down 8 you aren't going to "leave time".  you are going to try to score as fast as possible because you are still banking on a 2 point conversion to tie.  I have a bigger problem with not going for the 2's on the earlier TD's given we were down 20 points.

[Drew 2331]

If you don’t go for it the first score, you don’t make sure to leave time for another drive. If we kick to get to 29, then take all the time getting the last td only to fail the conversion, there’s no time for the possession after the onside kick to move into fg range. That’s why you go for it after the first td. 

Ding ding ding. It’s a risk either way. But I knowing what you need with time left is better than waiting.

[Pato del Muerto 52354]

1 minute ago, Wanker Bob said:

That's not true the time would have been the same. You would have played for the TD the same way. You don't bleed the clock like it's a last second field goal attempt to win when you're down 8. 

Untrue. You call plays and use clock differently one score down vs 2 scores down. 

[immortal13 4059]

[Drew 2331]

They should change that onside kick rule to where no one can tough it before 10 yds. Would make it far more interesting

Lulz. The falcons could have touched it. They just didn’t for some reason.

[dcar00 14036]

2 minutes ago, Wanker Bob said:

That's not true the time would have been the same. You would have played for the TD the same way. You don't bleed the clock like it's a last second field goal attempt to win when you're down 8. 

exactly.

[Drew 2331]

if you are down 8 you aren't going to "leave time".  you are going to try to score as fast as possible because you are still banking on a 2 point conversion to tie.  I have a bigger problem with not going for the 2's on the earlier TD's given we were down 20 points.

But what if you don’t get that 2 pt conversion with no time left? You’re done. Go for it earlier and now you KNOW what you need to do.

[dcar00 14036]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Untrue. You call plays and use clock differently one score down vs 2 scores down. 

down 8 you should absolutely expect you aren't going to make the 2 pointer.  its less than 50% conversion rate.  if you are calling plays differently that is on the coach.

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

That Gallup catch was amazing 

[dcar00 14036]

Just now, Drew said:

But what if you don’t get that 2 pt conversion with no time left? You’re done. Go for it earlier and now you KNOW what you need to do.

I get what you are saying but I would call plays trying to score as quickly as possible down 8.

[Pato del Muerto 52354]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

down 8 you should absolutely expect you aren't going to make the 2 pointer.  its less than 50% conversion rate.  if you are calling plays differently that is on the coach.

If none of it matters as far as play calls for either team and the same thing would happen, then why does it matter when you go for it?

down 8 with a few minutes left, you are playing for overtime, and for that you want to give the ball back with as little time as possible.

more info is better. The earlier you know whether or not you get the conversion, the better off you are the rest of the game. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[RPM 26236]

1 minute ago, Coach pop a bitch said:

That Gallup catch was amazing 

Gotta say I was underwhelmed by CeeDee. He needs to grow a pair.

[Trey3216 15325]

Dan Quinn should be fired and calling an Uber to take him back to ATL 

[Dennis Taylor 18713]

Quinn should have been fired 5 minutes after giving away the super bowl. Wtf man

[dcar00 14036]

So was it Rodgers Magic or was it McCarthy Magic?

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If none of it matters as far as play calls for either team and the same thing would happen, then why does it matter when you go for it?

more info is better. The earlier you know whether or not you get the conversion, the better off you are the rest of the game. 

so you are saying that no matter the time left on the clock when you are down 9 with a conversion coming you go for 2?

[Pato del Muerto 52354]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

So was it Rodgers Magic or was it McCarthy Magic?

so you are saying that no matter the time left on the clock when you are down 9 with a conversion coming you go for 2?

No, there needs to be limited expected possessions left. Like 2. So you know if you need to try to turn 2 possessions into 3 possessions. 
 

Atlanta going for 2 to get up 21 in the 2nd quarter was a bad call. You do that when there’s 3 or 4 expected possessions left. 
 

very little reason to go for two before the fourth quarter. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Sgt Hulk 13648]

Super bowl bound.  Clean up the 14 turnovers 

[SurlyBDR 22662]

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

8 minutes ago, RPM said:

Gotta say I was underwhelmed by CeeDee. He needs to grow a pair.

He made a big catch on the game winning drive. He's gonna be good but he's outshines now by Cooper and Gallup.  2 pros with big talent.

[RPM 26236]

He's gotta get more yac. Once he catches the ball he looks scared.

[Zeus 5950]

8 minutes ago, RPM said:

Gotta say I was underwhelmed by CeeDee. He needs to grow a pair.

Chokelahoma is as chokelahoma does.

Although he's a serviceable slot as a rookie not bad.

[Surly Bevo 24701]

In fairness to CeeDee he was usually 5 yards behind everybody at OU and if he wasn't he could make you miss...we've all seen that fucking painful evidence.

[A’Dam Psycho 1469]

Every win counts in this weak ass division. Still desperately need to sign defensive players. ET & Clay Matthews should be Cowboys by Saturday 

[Bullneck 19023]

19 minutes ago, Wanker Bob said:

They should change that onside kick rule to where no one can tough it before 10 yds. Would make it far more interesting

It looked to me like Atlanta thinks that's the rule right now.

[dcar00 14036]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

No, there needs to be limited expected possessions left. Like 2. So you know if you need to try to turn 2 possessions into 3 possessions. 
 

Atlanta going for 2 to get up 21 in the 2nd quarter was a bad call. You do that when there’s 3 or 4 expected possessions left. 
 

very little reason to go for two before the fourth quarter. 

I should have said in the 4th quarter

[pearlandhorn 3269]

Well then. I gave up and went to the grocery store at the start of the 4th. 
 

Got home as we kicked the FG. Fuck.

[taybo20 2815]

I couldn’t believe it while watching and still speechless

[Knoxtnhorn 5939]

I have a good friend that is a HUGE Falcon fan and Georgia Bulldog alum/fan.  He was the sideline when GA chocked away a national championship appearance, what, 4 years ago?  I may have to call and check on him.

[Zeus 5950]

1 minute ago, Dr. Beeper said:

CeeDee led the team in receiving and went over 100 yards in his 2nd game ever. People here are underwhelmed by him?  Lol. 

Wow I take it back he's ballin. I didn't say I was underwhelmed but I agreed with that dude.

Cooper just has a shot attitude and it's always showing him looking all smug and walking over to the sideline when they are getting ready for an important! Third! Down! Isn't that one of your top receivers? Why not have em in on 3rd????

[Zeus 5950]

Wrong thread

Edited September 20, 2020 by Zeus

[C-Man 27072]

I have a good friend that is a HUGE Falcon fan and Georgia Bulldog alum/fan.  He was the sideline when GA chocked away a national championship appearance, what, 4 years ago?  I may have to call and check on him.

If he survived the Super Bowl choke, he should be fine.

[ButtFumble 5159]

21 minutes ago, SurlyBDR said:

 

kind of like Atlanta players looked at the ball during that onside kick

[Knoxtnhorn 5939]

5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

If he survived the Super Bowl choke, he should be fine.

 

Oh yeah.  Forgot about that.  

[crash_davis 23084]

56 minutes ago, Rabidhorn said:

Watch Dallas beat Seattle.

 

55 minutes ago, Drew said:

And then lose to the Giants or whoever crappy team is next.

That’s the way we go.

sometimes it do be like that

[Coach pop a bitch 5459]

Best thing about this win is that we get a win with Tyron Smith out.  Hopefully the bookends can get healthy during the week.

[J.R. Juniors Junior Jr. 1084]

1 hour ago, Horn80 said:

Lots TVs probably just got broken in Atlanta.  

Nah, I used to live there and they're totally used to it.