Marvel's WandaVision on Disney+

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I wouldn’t kick her out of my windowless paneled van, if you catch my drift. 

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As already mentioned, Elizabeth Olsen is enjoyable to look at but the 50's sitcom is a bit lame.

I will say that the "stop it, stop it," scene started to feel like a bad trip.

[RamjetFDO 10578]

Some of you would've given up early, quit watching, and then complained that "2001" was a monkey movie.

Give it a chance. So far, so good.

[Michael Knight 12997]

it seems a very slow burn, not suited to a weekly release but better binge watched

[NeverMarryAStripper 21968]

I watched the first two episodes with my son and I don't get it.

[Apep 645]

That's kinda the point, not getting it. Vision is back, alive and living with Wanda in a black & white, 1950s sitcom. Both are lacking crucial memories of how they got there. There's more going on than a mere sitcom. Vision's behavior is atypical. It's a mystery with a ridiculous backdrop. A great job at making us, the audience, feel cognitive dissonance.

[YChang 3463]

i rather enjoy the slow reveal and the bizarreness of it all.

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12 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

it seems a very slow burn, not suited to a weekly release but better binge watched

Yeah, it's a really slow burn for a weekly release. The audience is probably wondering if they have to sit through an "I love Lucy" episode next week before Hydra is revealed. Since the show is a sitcom I assume most of the episodes will be similar where a few hints are dropped but the primary show remains a sitcom. It kind of feels like something that the creator of Community would write. It's a Marvel story wrapped up in old sitcoms told within the framework of the Twilight Zone.

[huge 3795]

Lots of easter egg vids and theories on youtube.  If you don't get it but want some hints I would go here.

 

 

[Speedtrucker 2083]

Yeah, it's a really slow burn for a weekly release. The audience is probably wondering if they have to sit through an "I love Lucy" episode next week before Hydra is revealed. Since the show is a sitcom I assume most of the episodes will be similar where a few hints are dropped but the primary show remains a sitcom. It kind of feels like something that the creator of Community would write. It's a Marvel story wrapped up in old sitcoms told within the framework of the Twilight Zone.

It’s going through the decades forward, they appear to have passed the Lucy days. Dick van dyke, Bewitched, next looks to be the Brady bunch.

[Drew 2540]

14 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

Some of you would've given up early, quit watching, and then complained that "2001" was a monkey movie.

Give it a chance. So far, so good.

This is Surly, in a nutshell. 

[Longhorn94 2458]

i love it. watched it last night with my youngest and we both thought it was great!

[jetsfan76 727]

Not too spoilery, but it's very loosely based on House of M. Wanda creates her own universe, and S-Word is trying to figure it out (tree branches.)

[gsoda3 3283]

2 hours ago, Speedtrucker said:

It’s going through the decades forward, they appear to have passed the Lucy days. Dick van dyke, Bewitched, next looks to be the Brady bunch.

i've only seen it once and i haven't gone back to verify, but i believe the theme song in episode 2 mirrored the rhythmic cadence of i dream of jeannie's theme song down to the measure.

[UT_OB1 2225]

3 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

i've only seen it once and i haven't gone back to verify, but i believe the theme song in episode 2 mirrored the rhythmic cadence of i dream of jeannie's theme song down to the measure.

That was bewitched. 
 

However, the second episode, which homages Hanna-Barbera's animated opening credits for Bewitched, goes a little deeper with a handful of comic book Easter eggs 

 

Edited January 20, 2021 by UT_OB1

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9 hours ago, huge said:

Lots of easter egg vids and theories on youtube.  If you don't get it but want some hints I would go here.

 

 

<looks at photo, volunteers to give her a pearl necklace>

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3 hours ago, UT_OB1 said:

That was bewitched. 
 

However, the second episode, which homages Hanna-Barbera's animated opening credits for Bewitched, goes a little deeper with a handful of comic book Easter eggs 

 

oh i was talking about the actual musical aspect of the song-  the rhythm, the chord structures, the instruments, the style.  even the trumpet pickups are almost an exact measure to measure mirror of the i dream of jeannie intro song.  check it out.

 

 

[MillerEP 30501]

I'm digging it, but I like weird. I think it'll pay off big when we find out what's really going on, so I'm definitely sticking around, I like a good mystery I can speculate on.

[The Dude 1246]

I like the dark undertones of foreboding, but I just hope sitting through the “awkward dinner party” and “neighborhood talent show” will pay off. Once the novelty of 50s sitcom wore off, they seemed a bit unnecessary, at this point

[FunkSoulBrother 931]

This is all taking place after Endgame right?

[Dutch 4479]

Correct.

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6 hours ago, The Dude said:

I like the dark undertones of foreboding, but I just hope sitting through the “awkward dinner party” and “neighborhood talent show” will pay off. Once the novelty of 50s sitcom wore off, they seemed a bit unnecessary, at this point

The dinner party and the (planning for the) talent show have already paid off - people at both that were asking questions of her past were injured.  

[UT_OB1 2225]

22 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

oh i was talking about the actual musical aspect of the song-  the rhythm, the chord structures, the instruments, the style.  even the trumpet pickups are almost an exact measure to measure mirror of the i dream of jeannie intro song.  check it out.

 

 

I’m just not hearing it. 

[Murfdogg21 4432]

Maybe/hopefully this is Marvel’s way to resurrect some dead characters if Wanda can pull people from her mental breakdown fantasy into reality. 

[TKthunder2 4999]

1 hour ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Maybe/hopefully this is Marvel’s way to resurrect some dead characters if Wanda can pull people from her mental breakdown fantasy into reality. 

Who?  Very few have died...

Quicksilver in AoU

Original Groot in GOTG (replaced by New Groot)

Loki, Gamora, and Vision in IW (though Loki from 2012 Timeline is alive, and they brought over 2014 Gamora in EG)

Black Widow, 2014 Nebula, and Iron Man in EG (2019 Nebula is still alive)

Cap “retired” and Black Panther actually died IRL.

I don’t see that payoff happening and I personally don’t think they’ll bring someone back in this show that will confuse future movie go-ers who don’t stream. Having IM, CA, or BW just return in the next Avengers team up because of this show seems highly unlikely.

Maybe they do it with Vision and add a throw away line to the movie like “We’re glad Wanda and Banner/Shield/whoever were able to get you fixed up after Thanos” or something but that’s somewhat easier to swallow since he is a robot and all.

The only other character Wanda has a connection with is Quicksilver and I just don’t see that happening as the fans have moved on from him a long time ago.

[UT_OB1 2225]

On 1/19/2021 at 11:01 PM, gsoda3 said:

oh i was talking about the actual musical aspect of the song-  the rhythm, the chord structures, the instruments, the style.  even the trumpet pickups are almost an exact measure to measure mirror of the i dream of jeannie intro song.  check it out.

 

 

I’m just not hearing it. 

[UT_OB1 2225]

2 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Who?  Very few have died...

Quicksilver in AoU

Original Groot in GOTG (replaced by New Groot)

Loki, Gamora, and Vision in IW (though Loki from 2012 Timeline is alive, and they brought over 2014 Gamora in EG)

Black Widow, 2014 Nebula, and Iron Man in EG (2019 Nebula is still alive)

Cap “retired” and Black Panther actually died IRL.

I don’t see that payoff happening and I personally don’t think they’ll bring someone back in this show that will confuse future movie go-ers who don’t stream. Having IM, CA, or BW just return in the next Avengers team up because of this show seems highly unlikely.

Maybe they do it with Vision and add a throw away line to the movie like “We’re glad Wanda and Banner/Shield/whoever were able to get you fixed up after Thanos” or something but that’s somewhat easier to swallow since he is a robot and all.

The only other character Wanda has a connection with is Quicksilver and I just don’t see that happening as the fans have moved on from him a long time ago.

I wouldn’t expect a happy ending with this. I think the most positive outcome will be closure for Wanda. 

[Murfdogg21 4432]

7 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

Who?  Very few have died...

Yeah, I was really thinking Vision as most likely, Quicksilver makes next most sense but is least likely to happen for reasons you said, Black Widow (since Wanda was talking to Clint about her and Vision), Tony Stark (with a different actor?), and a way to reboot Black Panther as someone other than T’Challa. 

I heard Chris Evans just signed some new Captain America deal, but it didn’t specify if it was cameo in a movie/show/game or something else. Maybe he decided after Covid that the sweet cash low hanging fruit from Marvel should not be rejected on some personal principle to be a more diverse actor. 

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13 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

I heard Chris Evans just signed some new Captain America deal, but it didn’t specify if it was cameo in a movie/show/game or something else. Maybe he decided after Covid that the sweet cash low hanging fruit from Marvel should not be rejected on some personal principle to be a more diverse actor. 

Could be the animated Disney+ series “What If?” Where they do alt histories of various characters.  Peggy Carter becomes the super soldier instead, etc.    they signed most of the movie actors to do the voice work.  

Edited January 22, 2021 by atomheartbevo

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Interview with Katherine Hahn.  Spoilery

Spoiler

https://io9.gizmodo.com/wandavisions-kathryn-hahn-says-gossip-and-secrets-are-a-1846102039

io9: Exactly. What was so fascinating about those scenes is how you’re seeing Wanda and Agnes exploring Westview, but you’re also getting a sense of how there’s this undercurrent of menacing, but not overt horror.

Hahn: We’re clearly not just trying to faithfully redo genres of sitcom. There’s something churning underneath it all, and there are layers and layers to this story that are going to begin being peeled back, and people are going to have to go along for the ride. I know that there are a lot of theories, which are really exciting, but I also know that people really need to be surprised about what’s coming.

 

[UT_OB1 2225]

Was good. Starting to shift to the darker side of her dealing with her emotions.

[Js1 85618]

Yep the facade is breaking 

[UT_OB1 2225]

I feel really stupid, but I just realized why Rambeau is grown up. I was thinking it had something to do with Wanda’s powers, maybe she time traveled or something. Didn’t occur to me she’d simply grown up. In my head I had Captain Marvel being just before Endgame. I knew when it occurred in the timeline, but my subconscious wasn’t having it. That’s been bugging me for 3 weeks. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by UT_OB1

[mdmost 43059]

This really seems similar to the episode "It's a Good Life" from the Twilight Zone. This is really starting to have a House of M feeling where all of this a creation of Wanda. No one's doing this to her. She's doing this to the people of the town/reality she's created. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by mdmost

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

This really seems similar to the episode "It's a Good Life" from the Twilight Zone. This is really starting to have a House of M feeling where all of this a creation of Wanda. No one's doing this to her. She's doing this to the people of the town/reality she's created. 

Don't forget Agnes.  She's out of the loop, so to speak.

[elfenix 34341]

is that gonna pull the naysayers back in?

[RamjetFDO 10578]

Did you notice the transition between the 4x3 aspect ratio to 16x9 and cinematic aspect ratios at the end when Wanda "expelled" Geraldine out to the real world?

[Viper 12112]

52 minutes ago, RamjetFDO said:

Did you notice the transition between the 4x3 aspect ratio to 16x9 and cinematic aspect ratios at the end when Wanda "expelled" Geraldine out to the real world?

yeah but was that the real world? it didn't look very modern, at least by MCU standards

[HornOnTheBayou 8952]

So far I'm enjoying it and I'll stick it out. The problem I have is that I only saw maybe half of the Avengers movies and have never read the comics, so when it comes to show's mysteries, I don't know which ones I'm supposed to understand and which ones I'm not. For example, am I supposed to know the symbol on Geraldine's necklace?

[Neonmoon 38130]

So Wanda created this void. Shield is sending in agents to try and get it to stop. The neighbors are definitively watching them. Is she just processing her feelings about Vision’s death? Could she possibly be creating another body for Vision?

[mdmost 43059]

2 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

So far I'm enjoying it and I'll stick it out. The problem I have is that I only saw maybe half of the Avengers movies and have never read the comics, so when it comes to show's mysteries, I don't know which ones I'm supposed to understand and which ones I'm not. For example, am I supposed to know the symbol on Geraldine's necklace?

Not yet. It's from the comics but you can let it play out. If you aren't up fully on the Wanda and Vision as characters, watch the Marvel Legends shorts that are on Disney+. They give all the relevant background on both characters. They're about 7 minutes each. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by mdmost

[mdleast 8314]

Lots of easter egg vids and theories on youtube.  If you don't get it but want some hints I would go here.
 
 

I am also someone who saw maybe half of the films and never read any of the comics. These Easter egg/theory videos (one for each episode) do a great job of laying out all of the tie-ins to the comics and movies and, if anything, make me appreciate just how chock full of references there seem to be in each episode.

[TKthunder2 4999]

12 hours ago, elfenix said:

is that gonna pull the naysayers back in?

I haven’t given up yet, but I need more backstory to keep seeping in.  Honestly if I could binge the whole thing I’d probably like it more especially since the episodes are short.  If they were 45mins to an hour I would have dropped it.  But I’m going to keep watching for now.

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5 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

So far I'm enjoying it and I'll stick it out. The problem I have is that I only saw maybe half of the Avengers movies and have never read the comics, so when it comes to show's mysteries, I don't know which ones I'm supposed to understand and which ones I'm not. For example, am I supposed to know the symbol on Geraldine's necklace?

Watch Avengers 2/Age of Ultron.

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6 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

Did you notice the transition between the 4x3 aspect ratio to 16x9 and cinematic aspect ratios at the end when Wanda "expelled" Geraldine out to the real world?

that was 21:9. 

 

44 minutes ago, TKthunder2 said:

I haven’t given up yet, but I need more backstory to keep seeping in.  Honestly if I could binge the whole thing I’d probably like it more especially since the episodes are short.  If they were 45mins to an hour I would have dropped it.  But I’m going to keep watching for now.

afaik that's the first time that symbol has showed up in MCU. 

[RamjetFDO 10578]

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

that was 21:9. 

That's why I said "and".

It went from 4x3 to 16x9 to cinematic (2.39x1, actually) in a smooth expansion through all three aspect ratios.

[Guadaloopy 11023]

Hydra has already been referenced at least twice during the “commercial” segments (they pretty much whack you in the face with it in this latest episode).  I’m loving that they are doing something completely different within MCU and making you think and wait a bit.  I dig the weirdness. 

[Dutch 4479]

3 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Hydra has already been referenced at least twice during the “commercial” segments (they pretty much whack you in the face with it in this latest episode).  I’m loving that they are doing something completely different within MCU and making you think and wait a bit.  I dig the weirdness. 

My thoughts as well. I’m digging the weirdness and like how they’re slowly scraping off the veneer. 

Edited January 24, 2021 by Dutch

[elfenix 34341]

4 hours ago, RamjetFDO said:

That's why I said "and".

It went from 4x3 to 16x9 to cinematic (2.39x1, actually) in a smooth expansion through all three aspect ratios.

so you did

 

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5 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

Hydra has already been referenced at least twice during the “commercial” segments (they pretty much whack you in the face with it in this latest episode).  I’m loving that they are doing something completely different within MCU and making you think and wait a bit.  I dig the weirdness. 

4 hours ago, Dutch said:

My thoughts as well. I’m digging the weirdness and like how they’re slowly pulling scraping off the veneer. 

It's got me pretty excited for Doctor Strange, Spidey, and the Multiverse.

 

Edited January 24, 2021 by atomheartbevo