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23 hours ago, Iceman said:

If you ignore his influences on the game of football at every level, not to mention his coaching tree...

Well, you should STFU and not discuss football.

He is at the root of what is great about the game.

And Leach was heavily influenced by LaVell Edwards and BYU. Leach acknowledges that a lot of the Air Raid elements came from his time at BYU.

"We had quite a few people come and visit, and hang around and observe, and that's how a lot of that got started with ... Mike Leach and other guys," Edwards said. "We shared a lot of information in those days."

Leach said Edwards is "easily one of the greatest coaches that has ever coached. And I think that's indisputable." He said he would hang out at BYU spring practices with offensive line coach Roger French, Norm Chow and Edwards and soak up all the knowledge he could get.

"They were throwing the ball all over the place," Leach said. "It influenced me directly, specifically. It is the core of a lot of things we do offensively, the philosophy of attacking the whole field, and then you take it a step further..."

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16 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

My bad on that.

I thought I read that Holgo was who brought Riley on the staff when he was OC/IWR coach at Tech in 2006/2007... obviously Leach had the final call and was the HC, but Holgo was the OC/IWR coach and Riley worked directly under him as a WR coach and was something of his protege.  Riley took over IWR coach when Holgo left for Houston.

Either way, it's one more impressive note from Leach's time at Tech and the numerous coaches he spawned.

Riley was a walkon QB at Tech. Maybe Holgerson  is the guy who talked Leach into making him a student coach, because Riley became a coach/assistant/QC type while he was still an undergraduate student at Tech. 

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3 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Asshole. Id say good comeback, but Mike leach is my favorite person on earth, so i hope you lose the rest of your games as long as you live. In every sport. Men's and women's

 

Well my dad was a Golden Gopher (and was born and raised in Minnesota), so I thought we had something there, but I guess I was wrong.

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Or you could copy paste it. 

Why yes, yes I could:  

‘What the #&$@ is going on right now?’: Inside Mike Leach’s QB meetings
First disclaimer: This is a story about Washington State coach Mike Leach.

Second disclaimer: While some of the details and anecdotes in this story might sound too strange to believe, the 10 former Washington State quarterbacks who spoke to The Athletic about Leach and his QB meetings insist that they are all true.

Austin Apodaca, 2012-13: It’s something you can’t really fabricate. All this stuff is true. You can ask any of us who have been in the room with him.

Connor Halliday, 2012-14: His first meeting, he had just gotten there and I was expecting him to install the offense. Everybody had their notebooks out ready to go. I think we got there at like 6 o’clock at night and were there until 9:30. He didn’t speak one word about football.

Jesse Brown, 2012-13: I had heard stories that he was this pirate guy when he first came, and he really wasn’t into pirates as much as I thought he was going to be. He wasn’t what I was expecting. But I don’t really know what I was expecting, either. I guess I didn’t expect him to be, uh, so weird.

Halliday: On his way in from Spokane, he almost got in a car crash. There was a snowstorm that day and a semi truck had rolled, and he was talking about how dangerous it is for semis to drive in the snow…I was already a huge Leach fan, so I knew a little bit about his formations and a few plays, so I wrote down a few things in my notebook. I was excited to get the meeting started. But the only thing I wrote down in big, bold letters was, “What the fuck is going on right now?”

Christian Jorgensen, 2015: I’ll never forget the first meeting. It was fall camp, and I remember we were slotted for a two or two-and-a-half-hour meeting. It ended up running like five-plus, and it was insane. I remember at that point being like, “OK, we’re in this …”

Apodaca: Every single day there was some shit that popped off that you were like, “What in the world?”

Casey Brink, 2016-18: It’s crazy.

Jorgensen: It was crazy.

Brink: Did you see our Christmas card photos we took as a quarterback group this year when we were holding Leach up? Other programs don’t have stuff like that. Nobody is having that much fun.

Brink: Everything with Leach at first glance is crazy, right? But then you’ve got to unpack it and be like, “OK, but is it that crazy?”

Brink: Our No. 1 rule was: Never say or ask or do anything that would get him talking about anything besides the film.

Apodaca: We would get pissed at people in the meeting room if they asked a question toward the end of the meeting. We would have these fall camp meetings that went until 9:30 at night and if there was a young freshman in there asking questions, we were all looking at him like, “Oh my God, dude, shut up because we will be in here for an hour and a half more on this subject alone. Stop asking questions, damn it.”

Brink: We’d have people sit in our meetings all the time, and it got to the point that our quarterbacks would say to the guys coming to the meeting, “Look, we’re glad to have you here. But don’t. Say. Anything. Because the second you do, that’s going to be the focus of this meeting, and then we’ll all be here all night.”

Tyler Bruggman, 2013: There was one time Connor, a veteran, made a rookie mistake. Sundays are typically long days, and we had finished the film from the game before. We were ready to head off to dinner. And then Connor made a rookie mistake and asked about the economy crash. I just remember Coach Leach putting the film clicker down and saying, “You know, it’s kind of a long answer, but it’s worth talking about.” So at that point, I knew we were going to be stuck in there for a while.

Jorgensen: There were definitely games going on within the quarterbacks. Leach would cycle through stories and then you’d get guys trying to trigger certain stories. They knew what to say in order to get him to go off on a tangent.

Brink: One of the great stories on that was early on my first year. Luke (Falk) was getting so perfect at his craft, and Luke loved making sure he got out to the practice field early enough to get his full warm-up in. So we would be in there waiting for Leach, and Luke would put on this serious face and be like, “I don’t care what you guys do, no matter what, nobody say shit, nobody ask anything, just let him come in and do his thing because I need to get on the practice field.” Classic Tyler Hilinski, he would wait until there would be maybe five or 10 minutes left in film and he would just be like, “So, Coach, what do you think about …”

Connor Neville, 2017-18: You could see Luke losing his shit in the corner. Just like, “Come on, I just want to get the fuck out of here.”

Brink: Luke would be staring daggers across the table, and Tyler would be covering his mouth because he would be cracking up.

Isaac Dotson, 2013: I was playing QB at the time, and we had our first position meeting, and 90 percent of the meeting had nothing to do with football. Maybe five plays into watching film, something happened that sparked a classic Mike Leach tangent. For at least an hour, he sat there rewinding and playing the same play over and over while he talked about everything from growing up in Wyoming to having a pet raccoon, getting paddled by the principal at his junior high, the origins of football and eventually just a full-blown Native American history lesson. The one-hour meeting lasted probably three hours. I remember looking at the veteran QBs in the room with a ‘what is happening right now?’ look on my face, but I could tell by their reactions that this was just a normal thing.

Brink: Sometimes they’re literally out of nowhere. We’ll be watching film and he’ll be like, “Throw it to this guy here. On this play, we could have checked to this play. And you know what? That reminds me …” And now we’re on some story that happened in Key West and some guy with one eye and a peg leg that he met at whatever bar.

Erik Anderson, 2014-16: My first year, I was really just a scout-team quarterback, and a lot of the stuff didn’t really pertain to me because we were watching film of other guys. I definitely found myself after a long day dozing off in those meetings. He’d go on some side story and you’d get lost in it.

Apodaca: I remember one story in particular. I can’t remember where he was at, but a neighborhood dog kept going up to him and barking at him or something when he was a small kid. To get this dog to stop barking, he apparently went up to it and peed around it or something so the dog wouldn’t bother him. Since that story, I was like, “This dude is another level of different.” He was just so happy to tell that story.

Bruggman: One of the quarterbacks at Texas Tech took notes on Leach’s stories, and he would quote Leach but he wouldn’t say the F word and he wouldn’t write the F word. He left his notebook behind one day and somehow Leach got a hold of it and was looking at it, so the next day in the meeting he said, “I want you to get up on the board and write the word ‘fuck.’”

Jeff Tuel, 2012: We’d watch a play and he’d go, “Good.” Next play. “Good ball.” Next play. “What did you see here?” “I saw leverage on outside ‘backer.” He’d take the laser pointer and circle an empty plot of green grass. “Throw it over here next time.” Next play. It was always just like, “Wherever people aren’t, throw it there.” Or, “He’s open. You should have thrown it over there.”

Neville: It was fall camp my second year and someone threw a pick. He was like, “Don’t throw the ball to the other team. That’s the last thing you want to do is throw the ball to the other team.”

Jorgensen: We didn’t really have playbooks.

Brink: Any high school, any junior college, no matter where you were, your playbook gets simpler when you get to Washington State.

Tuel: Literally as simple as humanly possible.

Apodaca: I remember I threw a pick or something, and I remember asking him what coverage that play is good against. And he goes, “Well, you should have just thrown it to this fucking guy because he’s standing there wide-ass open.”

Halliday: I said to Leach, “What do I need to do to get the ball there on time?” He was like, “Well, just throw it to the guy who’s fucking open.” I was like, “Yeah, no, I get that dude, but what do you want me to do to get there quicker?” And he was like, “I don’t give a shit what you do. Just throw it to the guy who’s fucking open.”

Tuel: You expect someone with that reputation, with that many successful quarterbacks under his umbrella, to have some secret sauce or special way of calling plays or reading defenses or just some scheme that’s better than everyone’s…He just found a way to make it as simple as he can.

Brink: Every week we’d look at what the defense was going to do inside the red zone. So every week Coach Leach would lean back and be like, “All right, guys. When we’re down in the red zone, they’re going to do one of two things. They’ll be in man or they’ll be in zone.” Early on, you look around at the other quarterbacks like, “Are you serious? That’s what I came to play college football to learn?”

Anderson: Say you’re warming up and throwing routes to a receiver and you ground one about five yards in front of the guy. He would go, “Hey, you’re throwing that shit off your back foot, you’ve got to get your dick into it. Point your dick at him.”

Brink: Each year I would take my notebook in. We’d have the install day at the beginning of the year, so I would write down all our notes: what we’re changing, here’s our playbook. We usually cover that in the first three days. … And then by the start of the season, I honestly don’t think I would ever bring a notebook. We know the offense, we know what we’re doing, and all Leach is going to tell you is, “You threw it here, you should have thrown it here.” And it’s true!

Tuel: This guy’s the guru. He is the Air Raid. I remember at BYU our first game, we’re watching the film the next day and he says, “How many plays did you change?” I said, “Probably two or three.” He’s like, “What do you mean two or three?” I said, “I called the play, and I ran the play. That’s kind of how it’s worked for me here.” He’s like, “Well, when Graham (Harrell) was playing, those guys were checking seven out of 10 plays. I was like, “Well, you never fucking told me that!” He’s like, “Well, you’re the one who sees it. I’m just giving you a suggestion.” I’m like, “Fucking A, good to know.” There are some things you just have to figure out going through it with him.

Halliday: By the end of my junior year and all through my senior year, I was probably calling 70 percent of the plays. He would give me a formation and then I would call the play. His coaching philosophy is, you’re out there on the field, you can see the way the defense is lined up better than I can. So it’s my job to get you to the best point of believing in yourself and believing in your ability to call the plays. That’s the way he coaches. He does it in a roundabout way sometimes, but it’s his philosophy to get the quarterback to run the entire show.

Tuel: I think the most entertaining thing during my time at Washington State was watching Coach Leach teach a three-step and five-step drop. That was some of the better stuff I’ve seen on that field. I mean, what do you think it looks like? Picture in your head what Mike Leach doing a three-step or five-step drop looks like, and that’s exactly what it looks like. Just the exact opposite of graceful.

Brink: I swear we had more fun this season than any team in America. And part of that is the simplicity. You know exactly what you’re doing so you can just go out and play football. And who doesn’t love that?

Halliday: Our film sessions kind of became more of a hang-out situation. He had this Cuban coffee maker that he called Bucci. It’s really, really, really strong Cuban espresso. I don’t know why, but he called it Bucci.

Apodaca: Dude, I was like the Bucci slave my redshirt year. The Bucci was huge.

Tuel: He had a Bucci guy when I was there. Certainly.

Apodaca: I had to learn how to make the Bucci. I didn’t know how to do it, so I’m up there asking questions, nervous and shit, like, “What the hell? I don’t know how to make this shit.” I finally learned how to do it. Once I learned how to do it, Leach was like, “Oh, man, Apodaca, you make a real mean Bucci.” From then on, I had to go up and make the Bucci for him every single day before meetings. I was like, “Dude, if it gets me out of some crazy ass story, I’m going to go make this shit.”

Neville: Our coaches would make coffee, and he would get into the meeting, drink it and be like, “What the fuck is this shit? This is horseshit.” He’d tell Drew (Hollingshead), he’d be like, “Drew, go make me another cup of coffee with some real shit.”

Halliday: We would drink our coffee, dip our tobacco and basically just tell stories for three hours.

Apodaca: You come up there with your notebook, which you’re probably not going to write much in. He’s not saying, “Hey, write this down.”

Anderson: Not at all.

Apodaca: We’re literally watching film like you would watch a YouTube video. We’re watching through it and if there’s something that pops out, he’ll go back. I kid you not, sometimes he would be pressing the rewind button for freaking 14 minutes talking about the Cody, Wyo., rodeo or some shit like that and you’re just like, “What is going on in here?” The same thing would be playing back and forth because he would just rewind, let it play, rewind, let it play. We wouldn’t even be watching it. We’d just be talking about Native Americans or his surfing lessons in California.

Anderson: One keyword can set him off.

Apodaca: Meanwhile, everyone has a big dip in, we’re drinking the most expensive espresso that you can find. I mean, this stuff is damn near a Monster Energy drink because it’s so strong.

Tuel: Connor had to sit out of a passing drill one time because he was so jittery or something. He was so juiced up on that stuff.

Apodaca: Yeah, man. That’s a normal meeting.

Jorgensen: He would chew, and he was really proud of the fact that he could quit anytime he wanted. His technique was to start chewing the wintergreen flavor because he said it was so gross it would make him not want to chew.

Anderson: Connor Halliday was a big chewer as well, and Leach would constantly be bumming dips off Connor, which was just hilarious.

Neville: I remember during fall camp last year he had a pretty big dip in. During fall camp that man puts like half a can in his mouth. It’s insane. But anyways, he was so concentrated on the film that he had his coffee in one cup and his spitter in the other way. He spat in his coffee with his dip in his mouth, took his dip out and then drank his coffee. He spit in it like two or three times and didn’t even know it. Me and Casey were like, “What the fuck did he just do?”

Anderson: He had a can on him and he had a real small dip left. He looks at me and goes, “You know, Anderson, I try not to get anyone started on this stuff. But if I’m being completely honest with you, I’ve got a perfect starting dip for you if you want to give it a try.” That’s what got me started on chewing.

Jorgensen: We would go into the meeting, he would push pause and continue talking about a play or concept, and then he would pull out his can. He’d snap it a few times and pack his lower lip and he would get more muffled. You’re still trying to follow what he’s saying, but it’s a little more difficult to understand him. And then he would pack in another pinch into his top lip. They call it the upper-decker or double-decker or something. So he’d have two going at once, and he’d be really muffled so you’re trying to understand what he’s saying and you have to pay extra close attention.

Brink: We had our position meeting at 2 o’clock, so we had to all be in there by 2 o’clock. The thing is, during my three seasons, I think he was on time maybe once or twice.

Anderson: He was usually fashionably late for whatever reason.

Brink: And then 15 or 20 minutes in, Coach Leach would walk in, but he would have his ear buds in and he’d be talking on the phone to someone. That’s another thing about him: He’ll pick up the phone for anyone, and no matter who you are, he’ll talk with you.

Jorgensen: He’d stop the meeting and take a half-hour phone call to talk to some ESPN Radio show. I know he talked to Donald Trump on the phone one time. He wouldn’t say anything. He’d just grab his phone and just take it for half an hour.

Brink: So he’d be on the phone for another five or 10 minutes and then he’d say, “Hey, I’ve gotta go. I’ve got a meeting to run here.” Now it’s 2:25 and we’ve started. If he was talking about something especially interesting on that phone call, then we’d start the meeting with a story. At that point, all bets were off. You didn’t know when you were going to get to film. You might not.

Jorgensen: When Leach showed up, that’s when practice started.

Brink: He’d walk out 10 minutes late and everyone would be like, “Yeah! Here we go!” Guys would line up sometimes, and everyone would put their hands up like the human tunnel thing for Leach. Leach would run through all the guys reaching up and touching their arms. We’d all be cheering and going crazy.

Brink: Every time he would start telling a story, he wouldn’t pause the film and set down the remote in order to tell the story. He’d be talking, telling the story, and he’d let whatever play is on run until it’s about to finish and then he’d rewind it to the start. Then let it run and rewind it to the start.

Neville: Oh. My. God.

Brown: He would tell a story and just rewind it just for something to do in the middle of the story.

Brink: There would be times one of our guys threw a pick or a bad ball, like it was one of his only bad plays in practice. And now he’s got to sit there and watch it for 20 minutes while he’s sitting there listening to one of these stories.

Neville: My freshman year, he put me in the bullring with (defensive back) Skyler Thomas, and I pancaked him. He would never stop asking me, “All right, Neville. You and Thomas, fight to the death. Who wins?”

Brink: We’d be watching film and out of nowhere, just completely out of left field, Leach would use his laser point and he’ll point to two of our players and he’ll be like, “All right, in a fight to the death here, who do you got?”

Neville: He would just say stuff like that because he thought it was funny.

Brink: And sometimes it would escalate into a debate for the next five minutes.

Apodaca: Leach doesn’t change, and he’s not going to change for people.

Brink: Leach will be Leach daily. That’s another thing I love and respect about him. He’s the same guy every day. There’s something to be said for that.

Anderson: I would go back and sit in a meeting again just to enjoy it.

 

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9 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Love me some Leach but I can see why a major program would pass on him.  Lulz

Wazzu is a perfect spot for him, remote enough and off the grid of major programs enough he can get away with his wackyness and the fan base adores him for it. But still big enough to attract the talent that can effectively run the air raid.

i think going to somewhere like a Tennessee would be a disaster, the boosters wouldn’t know what to do with him and the fan base would get frustrated fast.

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i think going to somewhere like a Tennessee would be a disaster, the boosters wouldn’t know what to do with him and the fan base would get frustrated fast.

I don't know man, have you seen the depths they are plumbing now?   They are talking about getting Kiffin back because at least they had fun...  no shit.   Leach is nothing if not entertaining.

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Leach is the motherfuckin man.  Those were some good quotes.

12 hours ago, nnm said:

Tyler Bruggman, 2013: There was one time Connor, a veteran, made a rookie mistake. Sundays are typically long days, and we had finished the film from the game before. We were ready to head off to dinner. And then Connor made a rookie mistake and asked about the economy crash. I just remember Coach Leach putting the film clicker down and saying, “You know, it’s kind of a long answer, but it’s worth talking about.” So at that point, I knew we were going to be stuck in there for a while.

this is one of the gems

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

No, it doesn't. He's talking about the past, the past everyone presently following the thread already saw. Thanks for not spoilering the long repost. 

Also, click where it says "Paste as plain text instead" next time. 

Did it on my mobile.  No "paste as plain text" option, also no spoilering option.

But thanks for your concern.  I will endeavor to meet your standards of excellence in message board decorum.  

Thank you sir may I have another.

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15 hours ago, Boogaloo said:

Wazzu is a perfect spot for him, remote enough and off the grid of major programs enough he can get away with his wackyness and the fan base adores him for it. But still big enough to attract the talent that can effectively run the air raid.

i think going to somewhere like a Tennessee would be a disaster, the boosters wouldn’t know what to do with him and the fan base would get frustrated fast.

Yeah, winning really, really pisses off the fanbase...

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Sounds like some classic Pirate talking points, but he is the coach:

 

SALT LAKE CITY -- Washington State coach Mike Leach has never been one to hold his thoughts.

After two tough losses, including a 38-13 thrashing by No. 19 Utah on Saturday night, Leach let loose on his feelings about his team and its performances, describing the Cougars as "fat, dumb, happy, and entitled."

Washington State entered its conference game against the Utes (4-1 overall, 1-1 Pac-12) as the No. 1 passing team in the country. After WSU failed to play like a No. 1-ranked passing team, Leach said the Cougars (3-2, 0-2) believed they were better than they actually are.

"We're a very soft team," Leach said. "We get a lot of good press. We like to read it a lot. We like to pat ourselves on the back and if we get any resistance, we fold."

The postgame outburst was similar to the last time his Cougars lost to Utah in 2012. WSU lost 49-6 that day and Leach sent his entire offensive line to the postgame press conference to answer questions.

He wasn't any kinder this time around.

"I think we've got a bunch of free agents running around there that think they're pretty special and then as soon as something doesn't go their way, they want to pout," Leach said.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/27725266/leach-rips-fat-dumb-wsu-players-loss

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Great. The fat, arrogant and narcissistic coach talking about his soft players getting press and liking to read it.  This coming from the guy who spends as much time working up cute quotes for pressers as he does working on game plans and figuring out how not to blow 2H, 5+ touchdown leads, at home, to garbage teams. 

More juice for the Leach cultists to drink in mass quantities. More evidence why this clown will never sniff a big job. 

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9 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

Why? It doesn't affect us, and he's worth the laughs. I hope he stays in Pullman until he retires. 

I do not promote asshole culture, and this thing hurts us all in the long run beyond fucking football.

If he wants to instill toughness, then lead by example, also be smart about it, not just spout asshole bullshit to the media that other assholes identify with, agree, clap to, and vote for.

BTW I am not personally accusing you of anything

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I do not promote asshole culture, and this thing hurts us all in the long run beyond fucking football.

If he wants to instill toughness, then lead by example, also be smart about it, not just spout asshole bullshit to the media that other assholes identify with, agree, clap to, and vote for.

Eh, I see where you're coming from, but at the same time he entertains me. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Texas, other than an OC (maybe), but his players seem to love him, especially his QB's. 

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1 minute ago, DaggerHorns said:

Jesus, some pussies up in here.

I appreciate him being candid and tough. I also think this builds his type of football.

Augie Garrido did far worse when he spoke to our baseball players and the guy was a fucking champion...a lot.

Augie also won a shit ton and was a champion. When you win NC's, you can get away with asshole behavior. 

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24 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

Jesus, some pussies up in here.

I appreciate him being candid and tough. I also think this builds his type of football.

Augie Garrido did far worse when he spoke to our baseball players and the guy was a fucking champion...a lot.

the tiresome part is where he pretends he is not paid a lot of cash to keep players from getting lazy or thinking too much of themselves or "being free agents"

and as others have said he is the one that constantly has bullshit about anything besides football surrounding him......on another forum a Tech fan (cult of mike member) posted up mikes comments on the PAC 12 mascots and "look everyone mike talking about shit besides football" and the comment was made that look for WSU to have a shitty loss in the next week or two and sure enough the shitty loss to UCLA followed immediately after that.....and now another beating by Utah (that mike gives zero credit to Utah for)

it is the same old shit with him year in and year out he is shooting a bear or catching a big fish in the off season then losing to a D1-AA team to start those seasons or he is making some comments about how the playoffs need to be restructured (as if a team he coaches will ever sniff them) and then his team gets stomped out of playoff contention badly

his teams always come out flat as fuck after a bye week or they come out flat in a bowl game and it is clear the guy just does not use that time efficiently or like it is important instead he shines his suits of armor or dumb shit like that and makes cute comments to the press.....then shits on his team when they have a loss and pretends he is not the head coach that is in charge or correcting all the things he is shitting on them for....even half times the dumber the quip he makes on the way in or out of the locker room the more his team has made ZERO adjustments at the half no matter how bad they were playing and how glaring he problems are in the first half

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DaggerHorns

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1 hour ago, ButtFumble said:

and the comment was made that look for WSU to have a shitty loss in the next week or two and sure enough the shitty loss to UCLA followed immediately after that.....and now another beating by Utah (that mike gives zero credit to Utah for)

Who was he referring to when he specifically said, “a tough team“, “they deserve a great deal of credit”, “he’s a good quarterback, a big part of their offense” ???

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Funk Doctor Spock

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1 minute ago, DaggerHorns said:

Did Augie only act like this AFTER He won the titles?

What comes first here, the chicken or the egg?

Good question. I honestly don't know. Maybe some of the older dudes can answer that one. I'd venture to guess he was probably not an asshole before the titles, and then being king brought it out. Don't care; got titles. 

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