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9 hours ago, Fat Bastard said:

As someone who just had laminectomy/discectomy of L4/L5 compression 2 days ago, I feel your pain. Worst pain of my life when it acutely herniated and deadened my entire left leg

They told me 5-10 years ago that I had degenerative discs, and the weird thing is that I have been in a lot more pain than this.

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7 hours ago, Newdoc said:

It’s all relative. Herniated in itself is not painful. It’s what the herniated disc presses on is what makes it painful. YMMV.

This right here.  I herniated L5-S1, had the discectomy, herniated it again, another discectomy, and never had a moment of pain in my back.  Sciatic nerve down the back of my leg was a whole other story.  

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49 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

This right here.  I herniated L5-S1, had the discectomy, herniated it again, another discectomy, and never had a moment of pain in my back.  Sciatic nerve down the back of my leg was a whole other story.  

Well, if you'd learn to flare and put 'er down gently instead of slammin' 'er down like a carrier pilot ...

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Was there something traumatic that caused this or just gradual degradation with age, weight gain, and lethargy? Some can benefit from weight loss, stretching, and strengthening neighboring core muscles. Others require a discectomy. Beg your surgeon (go neuro over orthopedic spine) to preserve as much of the annulus as possible. 

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Bumping this thread since I also have 3 herniated disks in my lower back (one has a tear apparently).   Been in pain since July.  Did the steroids and anti inflammatory oral meds and then had a epidural steroid injection 3 weeks ago.  Still having the pain and it goes down my hamstrings.  No idea what to do next since it doesn’t seem to be healing at this point like it used to in the past when it would go away in a week or two and it’s not like I am golfing or anything to aggravate it.  Was looking at stem cell injections and was curious if anyone had experience with those or anything else.  Chiropractor?  Acupuncture?  I’m at a loss and don’t want to have actual spinal fusion surgery or anything like that.  It hurts to sit at my desk, sit on an airplane, etc… and I don’t think I can stand and walk for the rest of my life without sitting.  

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I hear lots and lots of people say that they absolutely won’t do the surgery. The surgery changed my life. I had to do it twice, but that was my fault because I came back too soon from the first one and re-ruptured the same disc. 

My understanding, as someone posting from a Holiday Inn Express, is that once that disc is fully herniated or ruptured you’re not going to physical therapy it back into place. You could do that with a bulging disc but not one that’s completely herniated already. The gel from inside that disc is pressing on your nerves and causing pain and it’s like toothpaste from a tube. You’re not getting it back in.

I’m sure everyone’s situation is different and lots of people can get by without the surgery. But if you need it, it works great. I’m 51 years old, several years removed from the discectomy, and I have no problem going to the gym and doing squats, launching my mountain bike off a 4 foot drop, running, sitting all day at work.. all the things that used to cause me pain I can do easily today because of the surgery  

 

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8 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

I hear lots and lots of people say that they absolutely won’t do the surgery. The surgery changed my life. I had to do it twice, but that was my fault because I came back too soon from the first one and re-ruptured the same disc. 

My understanding, as someone posting from a Holiday Inn Express, is that once that disc is fully herniated or ruptured you’re not going to physical therapy it back into place. You could do that with a bulging disc but not one that’s completely herniated already. The gel from inside that disc is pressing on your nerves and causing pain and it’s like toothpaste from a tube. You’re not getting it back in.

I’m sure everyone’s situation is different and lots of people can get by without the surgery. But if you need it, it works great. I’m 51 years old, several years removed from the discectomy, and I have no problem going to the gym and doing squats, launching my mountain bike off a 4 foot drop, running, sitting all day at work.. all the things that used to cause me pain I can do easily today because of the surgery  

 

 

This sounds about right.

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I was told I was the “perfect” candidate for disc replacement. Then right after the doc said that it would last about 10 years, then have to do it again, rinse and repeat. Advised that if I could live with it through lifestyle changes, holding off at least one cycle, then I’d be better off in the long run.

That was 20 years ago, and so far (knock on wood) I’ve lived with it. I’ve figured out my triggers, and avoided as best/much as I can.

Combined with chiro (he’s methodical, not a rack-em crack-em), as well as massage, it’s worked for me. That’s with a bulge half hanging out, as well as a dead disc from degenerative disc whatever it's called.

I still have a bad day now and then, when I can’t avoid certain things, but I recover in a day or two. I’ve found when doing something that I know can trigger it, I take overly-frequent breaks.

Surprising enough to me, it works. There are times when doing that where I’m not down for days, and maybe just a little sore that evening.

 

Now, someone in a real bad spot, that probably isn’t going to work. But for less extreme cases, it’s worth giving a try first.

Along with stretches, and some mild core strengthening, you can live pretty good. I play golf, fish, hike, and all that jazz. No real issues, provided I don’t overdo it. 

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5 hours ago, Your Mom said:

I hear lots and lots of people say that they absolutely won’t do the surgery. The surgery changed my life. I had to do it twice, but that was my fault because I came back too soon from the first one and re-ruptured the same disc. 

My understanding, as someone posting from a Holiday Inn Express, is that once that disc is fully herniated or ruptured you’re not going to physical therapy it back into place. You could do that with a bulging disc but not one that’s completely herniated already. The gel from inside that disc is pressing on your nerves and causing pain and it’s like toothpaste from a tube. You’re not getting it back in.

I’m sure everyone’s situation is different and lots of people can get by without the surgery. But if you need it, it works great. I’m 51 years old, several years removed from the discectomy, and I have no problem going to the gym and doing squats, launching my mountain bike off a 4 foot drop, running, sitting all day at work.. all the things that used to cause me pain I can do easily today because of the surgery  

 

Is discectomy the same thing as fusing the discs together?  That is the surgery I want to avoid.  The fusion.  I have read about microdisectomy where I think they shave off the part that is hitting the nerve but not sure I am a candidate.  Golf was my one hobby and I played every weekend and haven’t been able to since July so I am pretty angry right now.  Not to mention being in constant pain.

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On 10/7/2024 at 8:47 AM, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Dallas.

I'm scheduled for a discectomy in December. In the interim, I'm going to give rehab another try until my "go" or "no go" date. My back doctor is at Carrell Clinic Dr. Andrew Clavenna 

Discectomy is removal to create space, while a fusion is joining vertebrae to promote stability. Discectomy is less invasive and has a much shorter recovery time. That's my Holiday Inn version. DM me if you have any questions.

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