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4 hours ago, Foosters said:

To be clear, the people who usually whine the loudest about CR, are the same folks who are fine posting the political opinions that they agree with all over the board. Because those aren't political opinions, simply inviolable truths.

There are multiple posters on the Ukraine DT thread who will explain why the Trump admin will be good for Ukraine. If you push back, they call you a CR troll. See also, the Israel-Hamas thread. Pronghorn spams DT with anti-LGBTQ accounts on a daily basis. I've never seen the "keep it in the CR" folks complain about that. In fact, they'll defend his right to do so if you attack him.

Does it upset the "CR sucks" folks that the "business and markets" thread is a place to criticize the Biden admin? I see some of you posting in that forum regularly who are some of the most vocal proponents of getting rid of the CR. But again, if its an opinion you agree with, you're fine with it on any forum.

So forgive me if it seems like you care less about keeping the CR in the CR, and more about not seeing opinions that run counter to your own.

There sure is a lot of bitchassedness among certain posters and it's not the CR "cabal." 

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21 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I don’t. I never should’ve offered feedback. I saw several others that shared my sentiment and I spoke up in agreement, and perhaps unlike them, I post in CR.  I do not care that a person I do not know, and does not know me, thinks I’m an idiot.

He’s probably right that the issues that me and others have written about here wouldn’t change, specifically, what he’s talking about.  I probably shifted his concern to what irks ME about this place, and I know it irks a large swath of posters here.  However, he continues to insist that pervasive and divisive political talk here isn’t an issue, and he’s wrong. It’s an obvious fix, too. But it’s also really easy to just walk away from, so the State of Surly doesn’t crack the Top 25 of my life’s concerns. 

What’s the ballpark word count of the top 25 on an average day?

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What’s the ballpark word count of the top 25 on an average day?

None. Feelings. Money, kids’ school, marriage, work concerns, investment concerns, vacations, watches, Argentina work trip, drinking, my weight, my health, my mortality, my Dad’s health, my kids’ health, my insurance premiums, my insurance coverage, my status as a soon-to-be owner of 5 cars. Off top of my head. All concerns of varying import. Nothing ever vocalized  or discussed here. All weigh on me. 

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5 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Glad I provided feedback and can’t wait to get a membership and provide $ to your site. 

I'm sure you were just on the verge of doing that. Sites only been around since 2018. 

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37 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

my status as a soon-to-be owner of 5 cars.

This is a legit issue. I am trending towards a fleet vehicle maintenance situation atm. I'd like to find a little slice of land and put a metal building on it to turn into a shop. 

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8 minutes ago, 'stache said:

It's paystub time isn't it . . .  it's gonna happen . . . right?

My situation was the consequence of having a big family. If you have 3 kids close in age plus a spouse things like vehicles hit fast and hard. I still have one more about turn 15 that's already window shopping cars.

 

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15 minutes ago, F250 said:

My situation was the consequence of having a big family. If you have 3 kids close in age plus a spouse things like vehicles hit fast and hard. I still have one more about turn 15 that's already window shopping cars.

 

My oldest just got his driver's license and i added him to our auto insurance today, so this hits close to home. Ouch.

As for the site, have any specific forums shown any growth over the last couple years?

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6 hours ago, immamac said:

bunch of free loaders who never donate, never pay, have never seen ads sitting here telling me about anything is also a fucking take. Don't participate in NIL, etc etc. 

Why would I? What do you think this board offers that is worth value? Repurposed stories and selective moderation? A substantial share of posters here go back to the Hornfans days. We’re here because BL had Shaggy taken away not to be “in the know” when some ugly shoes come on the market. I don’t live in Austin and have never been to a Surly tailgate. I hate NIL but accept that it’s part of the downward spiral of college football now. I’ve never listened to a Surly podcast for more than 5 minutes because I think that they’re poorly done and dreadfully boring. There are better (free) sites to discuss Xs and Os and we have 1 or 2 guys, who are not employed by you, that provide insider info on their own time. If you want to charge $5.99 to undercut those other sites, I don’t think you’ll be happy with the results. Counting on donations is a dumb business plan.

You are the owner of a CD player in a streaming world. Newspapers still exist too. Most 20-something’s probably don’t have the attention span to watch a full game much less post on this board. Especially new fans from 2011 - 2023 or those too young to remember VY crossing the goalie. Might as well enjoy what’s left of it before the party ends.

 

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I am seeing a whole bunch of folks that are being forced to post here and read threads against their will. We need to get someone on it asap. Who is forcing these people to read/post? I am going to reach out to KXAN and see if they will investigate. Something isn't right.

 

Nah, it is just idiots that don't know how to regulate and are offended when people draw them into a situation where they are forced to realize their inadequacies. Buncha unrealized self hatred. Sad.

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19 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Why would I? What do you think this board offers that is worth value? Repurposed stories and selective moderation? A substantial share of posters here go back to the Hornfans days. We’re here because BL had Shaggy taken away not to be “in the know” when some ugly shoes come on the market. I don’t live in Austin and have never been to a Surly tailgate. I hate NIL but accept that it’s part of the downward spiral of college football now. I’ve never listened to a Surly podcast for more than 5 minutes because I think that they’re poorly done and dreadfully boring. There are better (free) sites to discuss Xs and Os and we have 1 or 2 guys, who are not employed by you, that provide insider info on their own time. If you want to charge $5.99 to undercut those other sites, I don’t think you’ll be happy with the results. Counting on donations is a dumb business plan.

You are the owner of a CD player in a streaming world. Newspapers still exist too. Most 20-something’s probably don’t have the attention span to watch a full game much less post on this board. Especially new fans from 2011 - 2023 or those too young to remember VY crossing the goalie. Might as well enjoy what’s left of it before the party ends.

 

I don’t get this hostility. He busts his ass to make the site available and working. It’s not a money maker. Why do you have to be such a jerk about it when he’s just trying to figure out how to keep viewership up and get enough money in the door to pay the server costs, etc. 

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20 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Why would I? What do you think this board offers that is worth value? Repurposed stories and selective moderation? A substantial share of posters here go back to the Hornfans days. We’re here because BL had Shaggy taken away not to be “in the know” when some ugly shoes come on the market. I don’t live in Austin and have never been to a Surly tailgate. I hate NIL but accept that it’s part of the downward spiral of college football now. I’ve never listened to a Surly podcast for more than 5 minutes because I think that they’re poorly done and dreadfully boring. There are better (free) sites to discuss Xs and Os and we have 1 or 2 guys, who are not employed by you, that provide insider info on their own time. If you want to charge $5.99 to undercut those other sites, I don’t think you’ll be happy with the results. Counting on donations is a dumb business plan.

You are the owner of a CD player in a streaming world. Newspapers still exist too. Most 20-something’s probably don’t have the attention span to watch a full game much less post on this board. Especially new fans from 2011 - 2023 or those too young to remember VY crossing the goalie. Might as well enjoy what’s left of it before the party ends.

 

So leave? Nobody would care and sounds like you have nothing worth your time here

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22 minutes ago, Spankytoes said:

Why would I? What do you think this board offers that is worth value? Repurposed stories and selective moderation? A substantial share of posters here go back to the Hornfans days. We’re here because BL had Shaggy taken away not to be “in the know” when some ugly shoes come on the market. I don’t live in Austin and have never been to a Surly tailgate. I hate NIL but accept that it’s part of the downward spiral of college football now. I’ve never listened to a Surly podcast for more than 5 minutes because I think that they’re poorly done and dreadfully boring. There are better (free) sites to discuss Xs and Os and we have 1 or 2 guys, who are not employed by you, that provide insider info on their own time. If you want to charge $5.99 to undercut those other sites, I don’t think you’ll be happy with the results. Counting on donations is a dumb business plan.

You are the owner of a CD player in a streaming world. Newspapers still exist too. Most 20-something’s probably don’t have the attention span to watch a full game much less post on this board. Especially new fans from 2011 - 2023 or those too young to remember VY crossing the goalie. Might as well enjoy what’s left of it before the party ends.

 

I saw you at at least one and I think two of the Lee Harvey meetups - post Shaggy-era. You clearly gave a fuck at one point - rather recently.

If you don't want to post here anymore then that's fine but a lot of us still enjoy the site. I don't know why you need to go all scorched-earth on the business model or imma.

I would love to quit this place but I just can't. The user-base is too fucking good. Anytime I go anywhere else it amazes me how fucking dumb the discussion is. Surly maintains a standard that (I assume - because I wasn't there) goes back decades at this point. 

We're a bunch of wicked smart, substance-abusing neruodivergents that take the piss out of everything and never let anyone off the hook for some bullshit, regurgitated opinion. Some of us are Texas grads - some aren't. And - whenever anyone needs to get vulnerable or has some real-life shit going on - we drop all the silly shit and get real and compassionate and empathetic in a hurry.

If this place isn't for you anymore then that's fine but I think @immamac works his ass off to protect the identity and for the most part I think he does a really damn good job. 

Cultivating something like this is rare and it's why a lot of us have tens of thousands of posts here. It's just... different. And a lot of us believe that that's worth hanging on to. 

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I saw you at at least one and I think two of the Lee Harvey meetups - post Shaggy-era. You clearly gave a fuck at one point - rather recently.

If you don't want to post here anymore then that's fine but a lot of us still enjoy the site. I don't know why you need to go all scorched-earth on the business model or imma.

I would love to quit this place but I just can't. The user-base is too fucking good. Anytime I go anywhere else it amazes me how fucking dumb the discussion is. Surly maintains a standard that (I assume - because I wasn't there) goes back decades at this point. 

We're a bunch of wicked smart, substance-abusing neruodivergents that take the piss out of everything and never let anyone off the hook for some bullshit, regurgitated opinion. Some of us are Texas grads - some aren't. And - whenever anyone needs to get vulnerable or has some real-life shit going on - we drop all the silly shit and get real and compassionate and empathetic in a hurry.

If this place isn't for you anymore then that's fine but I think @immamac works his ass off to protect the identity and for the most part I think he does a really damn good job. 

Cultivating something like this is rare and it's why a lot of us have tens of thousands of posts here. It's just... different. And a lot of us believe that that's worth hanging on to. 

You know you can tease him at first. You don’t have to pull the whole thing in your mouth right away. 

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10 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I don’t get this hostility. He busts his ass to make the site available and working. It’s not a money maker. Why do you have to be such a jerk about it when he’s just trying to figure out how to keep viewership up and get enough money in the door to pay the server costs, etc. 

Is he? 

I didn't ask for your feedback, I am telling all of you what is happening. This isn't a "help me I need this site to succeed and grow" thread, this is a this fucking site is dying and twitter embeds and generally the internet has really fucked up how places like this site survive.

Would be helpful if we could clear up whether or not he cares that people donate because I’m at a loss.

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20 hours ago, Anastasis said:

The discussion board is a dying medium. Immamac has this sniffed out. You can tweak the content delivery options, but the reality is that this is largely a GenX thing. Pre-algo shit. Where people could actually hone arguments in exchanges with other human beings through the magics of the internets.  

It may well be dying, but it has more intrinsic value in the sense you just specified, than all the rest combined.

There is some damned good discussion and information in here.

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1 hour ago, F250 said:

My situation was the consequence of having a big family. If you have 3 kids close in age plus a spouse things like vehicles hit fast and hard. I still have one more about turn 15 that's already window shopping cars.

Exactly this. Why I need a shop. These $1500 trips to the mechanic will eat your shit up quick. 

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8 hours ago, immamac said:

 

 

 

 

You are all completely wrong. The problem is that everyone thinks this stuff is serious and they can't joke about it, because it isn't funny to them. 

Younger people (15 years younger) think this stuff is funny.  There's a ton of stuff to make fun of and be absurdist about. Everyone here is just too old and too "mature" to joke about some of this stuff and are starting to get worn down in real life because the internet isn't a fucking game, it's real llife now. 

This is why we need young people to come here, to bring the silly side back and have an irreverence for what's going on and create the funny silly spin on it. 

 

It's telling you think the insults being thrown at posters with opposing political beliefs are funny and joke worthy.  There are posts wishing literal harm and death on people because they're on the other side of the aisle. We teach our kids that's bullying.  But apparently after they graduate from college it's funny to you.

 

And freeloading? You might own it now but this is a message board that blacklab built which you happened to be a part of. The content here is a collection of several thousand posters' input, insight, and creativeness. You didn't generate this. I appreciate the work you've put into running and maintaining the website and the vision you have with NIL but you've lost the perspective of what made this board great in the first place. 

 

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6 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I appreciate this site. I am also going to just start negging spanky for every post going forward. Showed ass in CR then comes here to bitch about....checks notes....CR.  

Just fuck off @Spankytoes. Go fly off into oblivion ❄️. Godspeed dude.

Could you quote the part where I bitched about CR in my post? 
 

Don’t forget to neg!

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9 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

There are posts wishing literal harm and death on people because they're on the other side of the aisle.

Let me see those. Quote them. 

I'm honestly curious. I avoid the CR for a reason but if stuff like that is going on there I'd love to know. 

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3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Let me see those. Quote them. 

I'm honestly curious. I avoid the CR for a reason but if stuff like that is going on there I'd love to know. 

I think by “people” he means public figures and not fellow posters here. 
 

eta. Never mind. I think your interpretation was correct. 

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4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Either way his post is dogshit. 

Absolutely. It goes to show that the old meme of “internet, serious business” that imma touched on yesterday is a problem. This place has the same problems that every message board deals with. 

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34 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

Absolutely. It goes to show that the old meme of “internet, serious business” that imma touched on yesterday is a problem. This place has the same problems that every message board deals with. 

Not worth it 

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