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I didn't know that Trump made sure he wasn't able to see him in person. 

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Do you people think there's some sort of medical facility on board Air Force One where they can just test people for communicable diseases?  What the fuck?  I suppose you think there's one at the White House as well where they can do this thing before a major campaign event as well?  

(checks notes)  Dammit.  There exists a fully-capable Covid-19 testing lab inside the White House Residence as well as the Sit Room/Bunker.  There is also one on Air Force One.  Well fine, whatever.  Oh wait, there was also one at the Cleveland Clinic, one of the nation's finest health care facilities.  okay fine, but there wasn't one at Trump's podium and that's where we need them...if we don't...then the Chinese have won! 

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40 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 


The ND priest was at the Saturday ceremony and tested positive today. Seems like that is a good bet where they all came together.

 

well if it was that kind of party, Pence 100% has it as well.

 

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Things that seem incongruous:

they say he’s going to the hospital for “a few days” as if it is predetermined. 
but fat 70 year olds usually take 2 weeks for symptoms to pass, (one with the cocktail he got per the current trials). Why not keep him there until his symptoms subside?

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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Things that seem incongruous:

they say he’s going to the hospital for “a few days” as if it is predetermined. 
but far 70 year olds usually take 2 weeks for symptoms to pass, (one with the cocktail he got per the current trials). Why not keep him there until his symptoms subside?

If the antibody cocktail does it’s job, and Trump’s bloated comorbidities don’t get in the way too much, it should reduce viral titers, keep him off a vent, and hasten recovery.

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9 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Things that seem incongruous:

they say he’s going to the hospital for “a few days” as if it is predetermined. 
but fat 70 year olds usually take 2 weeks for symptoms to pass, (one with the cocktail he got per the current trials). Why not keep him there until his symptoms subside?

They don't want to deal with him either. 

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2 hours ago, elfenix said:

anyone remember ellington to IAH that continental used to offer?

 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/columnists/hoffman/article/Ellington-offered-best-connection-10623747.php

Yup, and I did that a few times living in CL when I was a little one and parents were taking us somewhere. It was Pre-beltway as well.

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Is there a psyche ward in WR?  If so, perhaps they get Trump's chart mixed up and transfer him into the looney bin and they just shake their heads every time he screams; "But I'm the President, dammit!" * 

 

 

 

* Loosely based on an old Tales of the Unexpected episode. 

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13 hours ago, Brandywine said:

The election has been turned upside down. Wouldn’t be surprised if all debates are now canceled. 

Other than the fact that the very likely occurrence that Biden would win is all but assured now. That's not "upside down," that's .. the opposite of that. 

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21 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Things that seem incongruous:

they say he’s going to the hospital for “a few days” as if it is predetermined. 
but fat 70 year olds usually take 2 weeks for symptoms to pass, (one with the cocktail he got per the current trials). Why not keep him there until his symptoms subside?

Imo they’re seeing more symptoms than they did last night and they want to have him at WR in case it keeps going that way. No way they wanted to wait and have to wheel him out. 

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So it's perfectly acceptable for the GOP to press forward with the RGB replacement while they have the leverage, but it's low class for the Dems to say anything negative about Trump while he is sick?

I call bullshit.   Biden should keep telling people:

a) the things Trump did to fuck this country,

b) there is no guarantee he won't keep doing it if they give him another 4 years, and

c) Biden has real plans, and will set this nation back on track.   

 

Nothing wrong with that.   If Trump can't defend himself, he's got a whole staff to step into his lifted shoes while he's laid low.   They have no one to blame  but Trump for finding themselves in this situation.    No way in hell they would pass up taking shots at Biden if the positions were reversed.  No way.

 

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4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

It’s getting waaay ahead of actual status but no way does the House ok a VP if McConnell moves forward with a scotus nomination. 

This is such a salient point.  The VP would have to be a Democrat or they’ll take their chances with the Presidential succession act. 
 

I seriously do not understand why Pence is debating Harris in person.  He’s literally all that is standing between the GOP and a complete wipe out of Pelosi were to become president during an election/transition.  Like a game of thrones level blood letting, rhetorically speaking.

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10 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

This is such a salient point.  The VP would have to be a Democrat or they’ll take their chances with the Presidential succession act. 
 

I seriously do not understand why Pence is debating Harris in person.  He’s literally all that is standing between the GOP and a complete wipe out of Pelosi were to become president during an election/transition.  Like a game of thrones level blood letting, rhetorically speaking.

I'm on political science nerd alert here......

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3 hours ago, elfenix said:

anyone remember ellington to IAH that continental used to offer?

 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/life/columnists/hoffman/article/Ellington-offered-best-connection-10623747.php

I operated that flight a few times.  8 minutes takeoff to touchdown on average.  A lot of people liked it because parking was free at Ellington, not to mention not having to fight traffic across town.

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History lesson/refresher for everyone here on Presidential succession, and a few things I was not aware of:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/02/pence-trump-covid-coronavirus-sick-425329

 

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Covid-19 outbreak inside the White House brings into sharp relief the literal nightmare scenarios that constitutional and presidential scholars have warned about for decades. What happens if Donald Trump is sick or incapacitated and unable to fulfill the duties of the presidency? And what happens if both Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence get sick? Who takes over then?

 

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Most Americans—if they think of presidential succession at all—probably assume that the government has clarified and settled the questions of who takes over at the White House in crisis situations. But there are two major problems with U.S. executive succession rules that inject enormous uncertainty: First, while the 25th Amendment neatly covers what happens if the president resigns, dies or falls sick in office, it says nothing about a sick or incapacitated vice president—a problem that led Dick Cheney to write a secret resignation letter and have his White House lawyer hide it away in case his heart problems ever left him unable to function as vice president.

 

 

Lots more at the link, along with some historical tidbits:

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Eisenhower’s answer was an informal agreement, hidden from the American people and unknown until decades later: In February 1958, he summoned Nixon and Attorney General William Rogers to the Oval Office and handed them a four-page letter outlining conditions under which the vice president could assume the powers of the presidency. He distributed just three copies—one to Nixon, one to Rogers and one to the secretary of State. He wrote that Nixon “after such consultations as seems to him appropriate” could just assume the powers of the presidency if Ike seemed unable to function. It was a wild, extra-constitutional arrangement—one that cried out for a more formal process in the age of nuclear weapons. In the years ahead, John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson both wrote similar letters, a system that would work only as long as there was total trust between a president and a vice president. Otherwise, it was a literal recipe for a coup.

 

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The letter of agreement between Kennedy and Johnson read, in part, “The Vice President agrees to serve as Acting President ‘after such consultation as seems to him appropriate under the circumstances’” and allowed the vice president to operate “with a free mind that this is what the President intended in the event of a crisis.” JFK’s assassination raised new problems and concerns (what if JFK had lain comatose after being shot, rather than dying immediately?) and left Johnson without a vice president for 1964. Through the end of that presidential term, House Speaker John McCormack kept in his Capitol office safe a secret two-page agreement that he and LBJ signed together on December 23, 1963, outlining when he could take over the presidency if Johnson fell ill or was otherwise incapacitated. “It is outside the law,” McCormack said later, “but it was the only thing that could be done under the circumstances.”

 

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Dick Cheney himself figured out the first problem in the 25th Amendment itself: There is literally no mechanism for removing an incapacitated vice president from the line of succession. As Cheney—whose heart problems were well-documented—took office in 2001, he kept thinking about Woodrow Wilson, whose stroke had left him incapacitated for the final year and a half of his presidency and left his wife secretly managing the nation’s affairs. “I knew how important it was to ensure we had a plan in place for leadership succession and survival,” Cheney wrote later. “We had a duty to make sure an enemy attack could not result in decapitation of our government.” 

 

 

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To ensure that his own health problems wouldn’t leave the nation without an able vice president, Dick Cheney wrote a secret letter of resignation, dated March 28, 2001, and addressed it to the secretary of state—not unlike the letters that Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson had penned before the existence of the 25th Amendment. Sitting in his office two months after his inauguration, Cheney attached a cover letter to his resignation addressed to his legal counsel, “Dave Addington—you are to present the attached document to President George W. Bush if the need ever arises. — Richard B. Cheney.” He handed the letters to Addington with a cautionary speech: “I won’t give specific instructions about when this letter should be triggered, but you need to understand something. This is not your decision to make. This is not Lynne’s decision to make. The only thing you are to do, if I become incapacitated, is get this letter out and give it to the president. It’s his decision, and his alone, whether he delivers it to the secretary of state.”

Addington slipped the resignation letter inside two manila envelopes, and hid it in a dresser drawer at his home—where it would be safe, even from a crisis that destroyed the White House. Cheney told Bush what he’d done and that Addington had the letter, if the need ever arose. Other than that, their plan remained secret throughout the presidency.

 

 

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3 hours ago, C-Man said:

I'm all for this. Biden is going to win. Why sink to Trump's level. What we're trying to do is re-establish some decency in the Oval Office and try to be more bi-partisan (if possible). That's the problem -- one side wins and spends the next 4-8 years settling scores and then it flips back the other way and it starts all over again.

Tell me when the Democrats begin settling scores because this is something I don't wanna miss.  In this lifetime, I've only watched Dems get walked on after owning themselves. 

Biden should do Biden, the world could use some compassion.  I only hope he's not too deeply compassionate towards the guy that expedited voter suppression on a wide scale.  

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