Fuck Big 12 refs

[El Squared 1802]

3 hours ago, NorthLoop said:

My gut feeling is that we're getting fucked but I honestly have no idea because we've gotten almost zero replays on every penalty. 

That’s by design.

Edited November 27, 2020 by El Squared

[Dennis Taylor 18830]

I want to be clear that im not saying the refs cost us this game. Our horrendous offensive line, terrible play calling, lack of any hint of a killer instinct and several basic tenants of football are why we lost this game. We aren't good enough to overcome basics mistakes or sketchy officiating 

[High Plains Drifter 11050]

 

 

big 12 refs suck.

so do we.

news at 11.

 

 

[Zeus 6091]

1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

I'm a UT grad.

Also, who are you?

Nevermind.  Don't care.

Also, it's "genius."  And we'll cover comma splices next week.  You hang in there.

Actual Texas grad, but here's the sand castle the 4 and 7 year old built instead of watching big12 shit-tier football, sorry for my spelling mistakes I was on the beach on the phone listening to this shit show.

Can't wait until next week with another last drive decides the game or overtime in this exciting "football conference"

Hope they fire TH so all you retards can see the into oblivion when they make another shit mediocre hire instead of the Urban Legend lol

 

 

 

[ChemicalHorn 359]

Lol at anyone saying we lost this game because of the refs.

We’re Texas. It’s Iowa State. There’s 100 reasons we should beat them despite some bad calls in their favor. Lack of awareness, lack of execution, wrong personnel, poor leadership, etc. THOSE were the reasons we lost. The refs just didn’t help us. 
 

This program needs wholesale changes. Until then - expect more of the same.

[NorthLoop 14215]

You do realize that you can bitch about the refs while simultaneously acknowledging that they didn't cost us the game, don't you? 

 

[Tex Pete 20399]

2 hours ago, ChemicalHorn said:

Lol at anyone saying we lost this game because of the refs.

We’re Texas. It’s Iowa State. There’s 100 reasons we should beat them despite some bad calls in their favor. Lack of awareness, lack of execution, wrong personnel, poor leadership, etc. THOSE were the reasons we lost. The refs just didn’t help us. 
 

This program needs wholesale changes. Until then - expect more of the same.

I’m pretty sure no one has said we lost the game because of the refs. 

[utee94 15832]

2 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

You do realize that you can bitch about the refs while simultaneously acknowledging that they didn't cost us the game, don't you? 

 

I don't believe he does realize that.

 

[Zeus 6091]

I hear there's an important national championship game

 

Would be a shame if it was

 

Officiated by the big 12

 

[Wulaw Horn 19096]

11 hours ago, Zeus said:

I hear there's an important national championship game

 

Would be a shame if it was

 

Officiated by the big 12

 

Yikes. Why would anyone subject America to that. PAC 13 and big 13 has the most inept officials. 
SEC the most corrupt (they always know the narrative and who Is supposed to get the calls every week).

I’d go with big 10 but they obviously can’t do the game with OSU in there. Welcome to the clown show America. 

[Zeus 6091]

Colin Cowherd today had a great point about replay taking too long killing momentum in games. He's proposed 1 min replay review, if you can't figure it in that time, it stands.

Sounds good to me, was watching LHN a while back and there was a couple "close" ones they just did the best they could and kept the game moving. With no option to stop the game at all every close call It isn't a big meeting and long ass review. 

Anyway, with Tom "pussy" Herman gone, how you guys think Texas will do with big12 officials this year? Can't be worse right?

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Colin Cowherd today had a great point about replay taking too long killing momentum in games. He's proposed 1 min replay review, if you can't figure it in that time, it stands.

Sounds good to me, was watching LHN a while back and there was a couple "close" ones they just did the best they could and kept the game moving. With no option to stop the game at all every close call It isn't a big meeting and long ass review. 

Anyway, with Tom "pussy" Herman gone, how you guys think Texas will do with big12 officials this year? Can't be worse right?

This is NFL's average review time:

 

I'd be interested to see college footballs.

 

I think 1 minute is too short. I think 2 minutes or 2.5 minutes is adequate time to review. It seems like in college football reviews are 4-5 minute process regularly.

 

 

I'd also suggest use a running clock to speed up games except for the final 4 minutes of each half.

Edited April 23, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[utee94 15832]

28 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

This is NFL's average review time:

 

I'd be interested to see college footballs.

 

I think 1 minute is too short. I think 2 minutes or 2.5 minutes is adequate time to review. It seems like in college football reviews are 4-5 minute process regularly.

 

 

I'd also suggest use a running clock to speed up games except for the final 4 minutes of each half.

I think 1 minute is plenty.  If something is going to be obvious to overturn, it should be evident immediately.  If it's not immediately evident, the original call stands and we move on.  

And I don't like the idea of changing the rules for the clock based on the time remaining in a half/game.  It's arbitrary.  Either always have a running clock, or always don't.  Otherwise it's just an unnecessary further complication to an already-overly-complicated rulebook.

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

37 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I think 1 minute is plenty.  If something is going to be obvious to overturn, it should be evident immediately.  If it's not immediately evident, the original call stands and we move on.  

And I don't like the idea of changing the rules for the clock based on the time remaining in a half/game.  It's arbitrary.  Either always have a running clock, or always don't.  Otherwise it's just an unnecessary further complication to an already-overly-complicated rulebook.

The clock rules are why games are dragging so much. All the incompletions and stoppages for first downs and etc. Or just implement a 2 minute warning like the NFL at the end of halves and have clock stoppages for incompletions and first downs. It doesn't have to be complicated.

Edited April 23, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[1leggedduck 443]

Have to have time to sell lots of car insurance, pharmaceuticals, cheap beer, etc.

[AUS-97HORN 11809]

there is no way Texas wins against USC with thealready newly implemented rules, make that a running clock and we probably dont even see the ball after VY scored the TD to cut the deficit to 5.

[Huckleberry 32997]

50 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I think 1 minute is plenty.  If something is going to be obvious to overturn, it should be evident immediately.  If it's not immediately evident, the original call stands and we move on.  

And I don't like the idea of changing the rules for the clock based on the time remaining in a half/game.  It's arbitrary.  Either always have a running clock, or always don't.  Otherwise it's just an unnecessary further complication to an already-overly-complicated rulebook.

The reason both levels stop the clock more late in halves is for that sweet, sweet TV money. It makes people hold on for that halftime errand run and it makes people stay tuned because comebacks are more possible in the second half. So ratings and therefore TV payouts stay higher.

[Huckleberry 32997]

1 minute ago, AUS-97HORN said:

there is no way Texas wins against USC with thealready newly implemented rules, make that a running clock and we probably dont even see the ball after VY scored the TD to cut the deficit to 5.

Blasphemy.

If there were a running clock then VY would have just led a faster comeback. Get out of here you infidel.

[Armybrat 40851]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Colin Cowherd today had a great point about replay taking too long killing momentum in games. He's proposed 1 min replay review, if you can't figure it in that time, it stands.

Sounds good to me, was watching LHN a while back and there was a couple "close" ones they just did the best they could and kept the game moving. With no option to stop the game at all every close call It isn't a big meeting and long ass review. 

Anyway, with Tom "pussy" Herman gone, how you guys think Texas will do with big12 officials this year? Can't be worse right?

Big 12 refs have consistently fucked Texas over decades before Herman was old enough to patronize titters.

Look at Grant Teaff’s last game vs UT as an example.

[JBJ 3655]

On 11/27/2020 at 5:06 PM, utee94 said:

Thanks bl.  Sounds like some in-game interpretation that wasn't appropriate or necessary.

I don't remember this play, but if a defender affects a pass that would have otherwise reasonably gone past the LOS it is not grounding.

The interpretations section has this: "Legal Play.  Without [the defender], the ball would have landed beyond the neutral zone, so [the QB] has satisfied the spirit of the rule."

[Restinmybones 111]

47 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Big 12 refs have consistently fucked Texas over decades before Herman was old enough to patronize titters.

Look at Grant Teaff’s last game vs UT as an example.

Yep and other Texas teams, if they are in contention for a title or major bowl bid. Talk to TCU fans.

[Zeus 6091]

On 10/4/2020 at 9:43 PM, dcar00 said:

TCU had maybe 2-3 bad no calls/calls there way.

we had

illegal motion called offsides, OPI, picked up DPI, picked up holding, no DPI on TCU Eagles, blocking downfield by receivers not called at least twice, bullshit hold on Okafor, the OL downfield called on us(technically may have been correct but TCU did it multiple times with no calls), did we ever see the holding call on the KO return?

hm.. whats it going to be like this weekend boys?

[utee94 15832]

6 minutes ago, Zeus said:

hm.. whats it going to be like this weekend boys?

My prediction... PAIN.

[TrashMaster G 17563]

On 4/23/2021 at 2:52 PM, Restinmybones said:

Yep and other Texas teams, if they are in contention for a title or major bowl bid. Talk to TCU fans.

I avoid doing so as much as possible.

[Huckleberry 32997]

Just now, TrashMaster G said:

I avoid doing so as much as possible.

How do you avoid all eight of them?

[TrashMaster G 17563]

57 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

How do you avoid all eight of them?

Stay out of Fort Worth and never go into a J Crew shop.

[Hagbard Celine 10871]

disclaimer: no kool aid, parcells,, etc....

++++

there was no fuckery against tceh because we didn't give them the opportunity

recipe for fort worth:

no opportunity for fuckery at all

[NorthLoop 14215]

Maybe the opposite is happening and the refs are making sure to not fuck us since everyone (not just Texas fans) are expecting it this year. 

 

But I doubt it. We'll see some fuckery. 

[smoky 840]

The SEC will need more officials. Maybe they're wanting to get hired by the SEC and so they don't want tape of their bs floating out there?

Who am I kidding, we're still going to get screwed.

[TrashMaster G 17563]

The refs are just waiting for the opportunity to pounce in a close game with something on the line.

[TrashMaster G 17563]

4 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

The refs are just waiting for the opportunity to pounce in a close game with something on the line.

For the humor-impaired, btw, that was sarcasm.

[utee94 15832]

5 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

For the humor-impaired, btw, that was sarcasm.

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[txhorns 2409]

1 hour ago, smoky said:

The SEC will need more officials. Maybe they're wanting to get hired by the SEC and so they don't want tape of their bs floating out there?

Who am I kidding, we're still going to get screwed.

You're not very familiar with SEC refs are you?

[Bullneck 19168]

On 1/10/2021 at 11:37 PM, Zeus said:

I hear there's an important national championship game

 

Would be a shame if it was

 

Officiated by the big 12

 

Oh, hai . . .

Quote

Terry Porter, the field judge from the Big 12 Conference crew, threw what is arguably the most controversial penalty flag in college football history.

On the final play of the 2003 Fiesta Bowl, Ohio State quarterback Craig Krenzel's fourth-down pass in overtime fell to the turf.

It looked as though Miami had won a 24-17 thriller to capture the BCS national championship. The Hurricanes would have joined Alabama (1978-79) and Nebraska (1994-95) as the only schools in the past 35 years to win consecutive national titles.

The U. dynasty was back.

And then ...

 

 

[Tommy Shelby 188]

12 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

disclaimer: no kool aid, parcells,, etc....

++++

there was no fuckery against tceh because we didn't give them the opportunity

recipe for fort worth:

no opportunity for fuckery at all

Jesus, fuck off with that aggy tceh shit

[Zeus 6091]

44 minutes ago, Tommy Shelby said:

Jesus, fuck off with that aggy tceh shit

could be a symple typo

[Hagbard Celine 10871]

3 hours ago, Tommy Shelby said:

Jesus, fuck off with that aggy tceh shit

you're new here

[Tex Pete 20399]

aggy tech sounds like a terrible school.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

Wait, that’s not the actual way to spell it??

 

[TrashMaster G 17563]

1 hour ago, USNALonghorn said:

Wait, that’s not the actual way to spell it??

 

Man, I miss those TBS broadcasts.  They did good work.

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

6 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Oh, hai . . .

 

Lulz. Oh geezus, not this shit again. Yeah, yeah, I get it. “Fuck Ohio State!”

Upon review by the Big 12, the call was deemed to be correct. Could’ve also called defensive holding because Sharpe had a handful of Gamble’s jersey as he was trying to run his route. If called correctly, the Bucks win that in regulation. Gamble was also held on 3rd down in the 4th quarter and caught the ball inbounds and that would’ve allowed the Bucks to run out the clock. But the refs missed the call and ruled the catch incomplete. Lee Corso pointed it out in slow motion on College Football Final and again on the first episode of College GameDay the next season. Why does no one remember that? Oh, right, “Fuck Ohio State!” And lots of people thought Miami -13.5 was free money and got burned. I made a bundle off that game.

Champions score from first and goal. Even if you think it was a bad call, it didn’t decide the game. (They also missed a clear block in the back against A.J. Hawk on Miami’s punt return that set up their tying FG to send it to OT.) Defense wins championships and Miami wasn’t prepared to get punched in the mouth the way they were that night. Brett Romberg was bragging about how few sacks they gave up that year and then Will Smith sacked Ken Dorsey on the Canes’ first offensive snap. (RIP Will Smith. RIP Sean Taylor.) The Canes also probably shouldn’t have been sending out flyers advertising their victory party before the game.

There was so much talent on those two teams. Go back and look at how many of those players got drafted. Such a great game. I need to pull out my DVD and watch it again.

And yes, I get it. “Fuck Ohio State!” But that call was right. 😛

[WhatTheBuck 28788]

Also, everyone from every conference bitches about their refs. But can’t we all agree that the PAC-10/12 refs are the worst?

Edited September 29, 2021 by WhatTheBuck

[CowtownHorn 5126]

8 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Lulz. Oh geezus, not this shit again. Yeah, yeah, I get it. “Fuck Ohio State!”

Upon review by the Big 12, the call was deemed to be correct. Could’ve also called defensive holding because Sharpe had a handful of Gamble’s jersey as he was trying to run his route. If called correctly, the Bucks win that in regulation. Gamble was also held on 3rd down in the 4th quarter and caught the ball inbounds and that would’ve allowed the Bucks to run out the clock. But the refs missed the call and ruled the catch incomplete. Lee Corso pointed it out in slow motion on College Football Final and again on the first episode of College GameDay the next season. Why does no one remember that? Oh, right, “Fuck Ohio State!” And lots of people thought Miami -13.5 was free money and got burned. I made a bundle off that game.

Champions score from first and goal. Even if you think it was a bad call, it didn’t decide the game. (They also missed a clear block in the back against A.J. Hawk on Miami’s punt return that set up their tying FG to send it to OT.) Defense wins championships and Miami wasn’t prepared to get punched in the mouth the way they were that night. Brett Romberg was bragging about how few sacks they gave up that year and then Will Smith sacked Ken Dorsey on the Canes’ first offensive snap. (RIP Will Smith. RIP Sean Taylor.) The Canes also probably shouldn’t have been sending out flyers advertising their victory party before the game.

There was so much talent on those two teams. Go back and look at how many of those players got drafted. Such a great game. I need to pull out my DVD and watch it again.

And yes, I get it. “Fuck Ohio State!” But that call was right. 😛

[Had Enough 2083]

The Ohio State-Miami bitching about the officiating is way misplaced because of the Gamble non -call that should have ended it. I think the PI/hold was correct too, but the non-call was terrible.


Now, the Big 12 refs inability to call holding majorly impacted the OSU-Oregon game. Massively in favor of OSU. Helped wear the Oregon d down too.

[Tommy Shelby 188]

3 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

you're new here

Nahhh, I just remember a time when I’d only see that spelling on Texags. I mean Tech lost so I should stop complaining and just take it….like Tech did on Saturday 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

On 10/6/2020 at 10:50 AM, Wulaw Horn said:

We are the flagship program in this shithole conference (along with OU).  WE should never get horsefucked by the refs in a year where we are supposed to be good. They should be shading every call to us SEC style.  Instead they go out of their way to fuck us.  It's stupid. How about we get a win a year that we don't deserve b/c the zebras keep us in it, the same was the SEC knows the score on who is supposed to win. In a sane world that's how it's going to be- if not perfectly impartial.  But no- we get this horseshit instead.

Should we still have won the game? Of fucking course.  But did we get massively fucked- to the tune of a bunch of points, at multiple different times in the game- in a way a ranked flagship school, playing at home, never should be fucked?  Yep.   Stupid fucking losers.  

Lets go ahead and call the big 10. Vouch for OU. See what the other 8 left behind think about that.  Be kinda funny all that time you got over on big bad Texas then, huh Ok State? TCU?  Enjoy playing Houston and SMU in irrelevance forever.

Just saying- if we were who people claim we are, the big bad heavy throwing their weight around that's what it would look like in my world.  

Nailed it.  Almost.

 

But that Tech 2008 game.  Jesus.  That one idiot who wore face paint like a WWE wrestler was allowed to wrap his arm around the necks of Kindle and Orakpo 87 times in a row.  And the one holding they did call, on Ulatoski, was bullshit and directly led to a pick 6.  So much shit happened that game that sucked.  Cosby getting hurt early.  Shipley dropping a bomb (never happened), Mack fucking up clock management on our go ahead TD drive, Gideon, etc.

The one thing people point to so much -- missed tackle on Crabtree -- likely does not make a shit.  They could have just kicked a chip shot field goal had Thomas tackled him.  They had a timeout and the clock would have stopped.

I believe we were the best team in the country in 2008.  But it would have been a hell of a year for a 4-team playoff.

[Zeus 6091]

These turds REALLY gonna have to rig their ass off to drag the roaches to a V

[wood 11227]

2 minutes ago, Zeus said:

These turds REALLY gonna have to rig their ass off to drag the roaches to a V

Welp, they're off to a good start with two missed calls on blocks in the back on the kickoff. I'm sure there's more, but I'm watching delayed.

[wood 11227]

...and spotting the ball a full yard short of the first down when we got it by half a yard. But fuck it. Bijan says "I'll take care of this shit".

[Zeus 6091]

The ole holding flag that gets a long discussion and gets picked up when it's 1st down TCU.

The ole ref under the center draws the DL offsides on a 4th and 1. 

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