Fuck Big 12 refs

[Tex Long 4,383]

I'm probably wrong, but what I think I recall happening in regard to the LHN and revenue sharing is the following. 

The initial talks with ESPN were about a XII network. That was rejected for various reasons by the other members. One of those being Kansas, which was unwilling to share its Tier 3 revenue (primarily from basketball), and apparently convincing others to stand against the idea of a full-conference network.  Dodds then tried to put together a Texas network, and aggy rejected that for whatever reason (BOMC), so it wound up as a Longhorn-only channel. 

Not that it's overly pertinent, but IMO we did - and are continuing to do - a shit job of running LHN. I get the impression from various stories that the LHN space will convert to SEC 2 or similar. 

[Deej 76,756]

Everyone was cool with Kansas not sharing their Tier 3 basketball money. 

[utee94 15,811]

4 minutes ago, Deej said:

Everyone was cool with Kansas not sharing their Tier 3 basketball money. 

Before the LHN, several schools were making more money on their Tier3 rights than Texas, because almost every Texas game was selected for B12 broadcast which was already covered in the Tier1/Tier2 contracts, while other schools regularly had games slipping all the way to PPV, where they retained 100% of the revenue. 

Funny how none of them ever mentioned that though.

[Tex Long 4,383]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Everyone was cool with Kansas not sharing their Tier 3 basketball money. 

I was under the impression that ESPN was not cool with Kansas (or any others) selling gamecasts to someone else. 

[A’Dam Psycho 1,470]

10 hours ago, pyrohornIII said:

So while in the B12 didn't Texas always opt to take the road of fairly sharing revenue with the other schools, even though they had the opportunity not to?  Seems that was part of the issue A&M had around the LHN and one of the lamest parts of aggy logic to leave for the SEC.

It would be interesting for someone to run the figures on how the smaller schools would have done financially if UT had opted to take everything it could when offered and not tried to make it as palatable across the board as possible.   

Somebody with a better memory and understanding of all that can hopefully explain this better.  Just sounds to me like those schools remaining in the B12 are angry because their cash cows are moving to greener pastures and they'll be poorer for it.  

Texas has bent over backwards on a lot of shit for this 2nd rate conference yet they get called “conference killers” and all this bs. Supply 45% of the revenue and have to split it equally with the ISU and K-States of the world who are probably barely around 2%.
 

Texas pushed heavily for a conference network, these goofs voted against it. Voted to keep the bullshit tie breaker that Texas got fucked on during the 2008 season even though no other conference has it. Made a big spectacle about “Horns down” and suggested that it was Texas fault it’s a taunting penalty. List goes on. This conference and its members have done literally nothing for UT but leech off its money. I’ve said multiple times over the years we should go independent. This conference is so incredibly small time and I don’t want to have anything to do with it anymore.

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

29 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Before the LHN, several schools were making more money on their Tier3 rights than Texas, because almost every Texas game was selected for B12 broadcast which was already covered in the Tier1/Tier2 contracts, while other schools regularly had games slipping all the way to PPV, where they retained 100% of the revenue. 

Funny how none of them ever mentioned that though.

In those days, Tier 1/2 money wasn't split evenly, so Texas was making more than they would have if those games were broadcast Tier 3.

[Nueces River Rat 5,538]

12 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Cross-posting, but this needs to happen.

I'd go a step further and play the comments from both the Commish and Weiser from K State before each game on the Jumbotron starting with the Rice game next week.    The rules on decorum were thrown out yesterday and like DelConte said himself, let's embrace the hate and throw it back at the rest of this clown car conference.  

[Saint Tacky 1,614]

56 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Texas and OUsux should remove all Big 12 logos from the uniforms and stadiums as part of the exit process.

I'd take it one step further and have "SEC" logos on the field and on the jerseys when Tech and our regarded commissioner show up on Thanksgiving to have a turkey leg shoved up their collective asses.

[Zeus 6,017]

32 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Del Conte and Castiglione need to respond harshly to Yormark’s comments and stir the press up. The media narrative needs to be “We’re watching”. That would go a long way to mitigating the apparent bias. 

The narrative is already "We're leaving, fuck you"...It's known they are going to try and fuck us and we will have to overcome the refs and the opposing team. 

 

 

 

 

[PvilleStang 2,875]

I mean, realistically, we should play the videos on the jumbotron, trash the refs and the Big12 office, then if they threaten to sue, counter-sue stating collusion on the part of the conference office as we now have more proof than ever.

[utee94 15,811]

1 hour ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

In those days, Tier 1/2 money wasn't split evenly, so Texas was making more than they would have if those games were broadcast Tier 3.

I specified they were making more on their Tier3 rights than Texas.  Nothing else.

[JBJ 3,654]

2 hours ago, Tex Long said:

I'm probably wrong, but what I think I recall happening in regard to the LHN and revenue sharing is the following. 

The initial talks with ESPN were about a XII network. That was rejected for various reasons by the other members. One of those being Kansas, which was unwilling to share its Tier 3 revenue (primarily from basketball), and apparently convincing others to stand against the idea of a full-conference network.  Dodds then tried to put together a Texas network, and aggy rejected that for whatever reason (BOMC), so it wound up as a Longhorn-only channel. 

Not that it's overly pertinent, but IMO we did - and are continuing to do - a shit job of running LHN. I get the impression from various stories that the LHN space will convert to SEC 2 or similar. 

The Big XII Network idea never really got going enough to even get it in front of the major networks.  The initial belief was that ADs were going to have to pay (or lose revenue) to get it started up and that was a non-starter enough to not even explore the idea.

Edited August 24, 2023 by JBJ

[Surly Bevo 24,908]

Win the final game in Jerryworld line up postgame at middle of field and rip the logo off the jerseys.

[Nivek 16,923]

1 hour ago, PvilleStang said:

I mean, realistically, we should play the videos on the jumbotron, trash the refs and the Big12 office, then if they threaten to sue, counter-sue stating collusion on the part of the conference office as we now have more proof than ever.

It would be a great send-off to run the jumbotron with the absolute fuckery in officiating, have the band play Yakitty Sax while the Yormark/Weiser statements are read over the jumbotron and take an ad out during the game to show it live.  

If Texas or OU does win the trophy this is how the ceremony should go: 

Also, add B12 logos to every toilet and urinal on campus.   Yormark, Bowlsby, and Weisers faces could be added to the trash cans around the stadium.

Edited August 24, 2023 by Nivek

[Eskimohorn 5,633]

Del Conte and Castiglione need to respond harshly to Yormark’s comments and stir the press up. The media narrative needs to be “We’re watching”. That would go a long way to mitigating the apparent bias. 

What are we gonna strenuously object? Teams that complain about officiating always look like punks in the media. We’re not gonna sue. We’ll lie and take it.

[utee94 15,811]

12 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

What are we gonna strenuously object? Teams that complain about officiating always look like punks in the media. We’re not gonna sue. We’ll lie and take it.

Yup.  It's one of the reasons we really needed to get out of the B12 after one year, like all the other teams that left managed to do.  Three years has given them way too much time to amplify the fuckery,

[A’Dam Psycho 1,470]

11 minutes ago, Eskimohorn said:

What are we gonna strenuously object? Teams that complain about officiating always look like punks in the media. We’re not gonna sue. We’ll lie and take it.

Bro fuck what the “media” thinks. We need to let it be known to the big suits in this conference that we’re well aware of what’s going on and we’re willing to call it out. Mark Mangino did it in a post game press conference after he felt his team got fucked on some shady shit. Why do we always have to take the high road on bs like this?

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,878]

Maybe it's time to actually turn off the A/C in the visitor locker room

[Up . . . 13]

Yormark face stickers as urinal targets would be harmless mischief that conveys a succinct message while also encouraging patrons to aim. They’d also manifest a lower risk of someone squawking “trademark violation” than might a similarly dispatched Big12 logo. 

[Jasper_Jester 356]

29 minutes ago, Up . . . said:

Yormark face stickers as urinal targets would be harmless mischief that conveys a succinct message while also encouraging patrons to aim. They’d also manifest a lower risk of someone squawking “trademark violation” than might a similarly dispatched Big12 logo. 

I'm supposed to know what this idiot looks like?

[tejas60 3,532]

[NorthLoop 14,183]

I mean....I know the general consensus about this here, and believe me I share the same feeling as most of yall about it but....

 

If we monkey-stomp Tech I would love to hear a massive SEC-SEC chant to end that game. 

[Jasper_Jester 356]

1 minute ago, NorthLoop said:

I mean....I know the general consensus about this here, and believe me I share the same feeling as most of yall about it but....

 

If we monkey-stomp Tech I would love to hear a massive SEC-SEC chant to end that game. 

The chants are inevitably going to happen this season and I know we will be angry with ourselves the morning after.

[Deej 76,756]

3 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

I mean....I know the general consensus about this here, and believe me I share the same feeling as most of yall about it but....

 

If we monkey-stomp Tech I would love to hear a massive SEC-SEC chant to end that game. 

Can we just mockingly chant "Irate 8-Irate 8!!!"

[PvilleStang 2,875]

Wouldn't it be a bigger slap in the face to handle our business, then chant Big12 on the way out the door?  Or F- Big 12?  I'm game for that, and don't feel like I'll have regret the next morning.

[NorthLoop 14,183]

Fuck The Big 12! clap clap clapclapclap

 

Maybe get the whole Cotton Bowl chanting that before the game even starts. 

[Nueces River Rat 5,538]

34 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

I mean....I know the general consensus about this here, and believe me I share the same feeling as most of yall about it but....

 

If we monkey-stomp Tech I would love to hear a massive SEC-SEC chant to end that game. 

No no no.  That is sooooooo aggy.  

[Tex Pete 20,339]

35 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

I mean....I know the general consensus about this here, and believe me I share the same feeling as most of yall about it but....

 

If we monkey-stomp Tech I would love to hear a massive SEC-SEC chant to end that game. 

How about no? We don't rush the field and we should not do that stupid shit.

[NorthLoop 14,183]

Just once.. just a big fuck you to the conference. Then we never do it again. 

[PvilleStang 2,875]

11 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Just once.. just a big fuck you to the conference. Then we never do it again. 

You chant SEC just once; next thing you know you're balls deep in a sheep at a yell practice while claiming a national championship because your conference-mates won one.

[NorthLoop 14,183]

3 minutes ago, PvilleStang said:

You chant SEC just once; next thing you know you're balls deep in a sheep at a yell practice while claiming a national championship because your conference-mates won one.

[Huckleberry 32,850]

No, the right plan at the Cotton Bowl is for the Texas side to get a Big 12! Sucks! chant going like a Texas Fight chant except the Texas end says Big 12 and the OU end says Sucks. 

This will be led by the Texas cheerleaders with BIG 12 and SUCKS signs. Then about the 6th or 7th time around they drop the BIG 12 sign and reveal the OU sign and we all get to watch 45,000 dimwitted super slow OU fans admit that OU sucks a couple of times before they realize what the Texas end is now yelling. 

[texastroubadour 1,210]

6 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Texas has bent over backwards on a lot of shit for this 2nd rate conference yet they get called “conference killers” and all this bs. Supply 45% of the revenue and have to split it equally with the ISU and K-States of the world who are probably barely around 2%.
 

Texas pushed heavily for a conference network, these goofs voted against it. Voted to keep the bullshit tie breaker that Texas got fucked on during the 2008 season even though no other conference has it. Made a big spectacle about “Horns down” and suggested that it was Texas fault it’s a taunting penalty. List goes on. This conference and its members have done literally nothing for UT but leech off its money. I’ve said multiple times over the years we should go independent. This conference is so incredibly small time and I don’t want to have anything to do with it anymore.

Yessiree 

[Nivek 16,923]

Let's eat his dog!

[HornOnTheBayou 8,919]

3 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

No, the right plan at the Cotton Bowl is for the Texas side to get a Big 12! Sucks! chant going like a Texas Fight chant except the Texas end says Big 12 and the OU end says Sucks. 

This will be led by the Texas cheerleaders with BIG 12 and SUCKS signs. Then about the 6th or 7th time around they drop the BIG 12 sign and reveal the OU sign and we all get to watch 45,000 dimwitted super slow OU fans admit that OU sucks a couple of times before they realize what the Texas end is now yelling. 

[Nueces River Rat 5,538]

7 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

No, the right plan at the Cotton Bowl is for the Texas side to get a Big 12! Sucks! chant going like a Texas Fight chant except the Texas end says Big 12 and the OU end says Sucks. 

This will be led by the Texas cheerleaders with BIG 12 and SUCKS signs. Then about the 6th or 7th time around they drop the BIG 12 sign and reveal the OU sign and we all get to watch 45,000 dimwitted super slow OU fans admit that OU sucks a couple of times before they realize what the Texas end is now yelling. 

[Wishbone 4,759]

We need to show these fuckers a big 12 on the way out.

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

17 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Bro fuck what the “media” thinks. We need to let it be known to the big suits in this conference that we’re well aware of what’s going on and we’re willing to call it out. Mark Mangino did it in a post game press conference after he felt his team got fucked on some shady shit. Why do we always have to take the high road on bs like this?

Fly a "penny signs" banner.

[markstanco 12,573]

Storm the field, B12 gives a fine, write check to the B12 and mail it, cancel check before it gets there.

The End

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

Just now, markstanco said:

Storm the field, B12 gives a fine, write check to the B12 and mail it, cancel check before it gets there.

The End

[CowtownHorn 5,126]

Mine is prepared.

[Dennis Taylor 18,811]

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

Storm the field, B12 gives a fine, write check to the B12 and mail it, cancel check before it gets there.

The End

Pay the fine in pennies

 

 

 

[markstanco 12,573]

28 minutes ago, Dennis Taylor said:

Pay the fine in pennies

 

 

One of my father's buddies in L.A. mailed him $100 in pennies after the Rose Bowl. I bet he spent more on freight, it weighed 50+ pounds if I recall correctly. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9,046]

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

One of my father's buddies in L.A. mailed him $100 in pennies after the Rose Bowl. I bet he spent more on freight, it weighed 50+ pounds if I recall correctly. 

Exactly 55 pounds if they are all the newer, lighter (.088 ounce) pennies. More than that if older pennies are mixed in. 

[The Hot Dog Buffet 1,291]

2 hours ago, markstanco said:

One of my father's buddies in L.A. mailed him $100 in pennies after the Rose Bowl. I bet he spent more on freight, it weighed 50+ pounds if I recall correctly. 

[Frank Drebin 5,662]

23 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

No, the right plan at the Cotton Bowl is for the Texas side to get a Big 12! Sucks! chant going like a Texas Fight chant except the Texas end says Big 12 and the OU end says Sucks. 

This will be led by the Texas cheerleaders with BIG 12 and SUCKS signs. Then about the 6th or 7th time around they drop the BIG 12 sign and reveal the OU sign and we all get to watch 45,000 dimwitted super slow OU fans admit that OU sucks a couple of times before they realize what the Texas end is now yelling. 

[markstanco 12,573]

47 minutes ago, ImissWallyPryor said:

Exactly 55 pounds if they are all the newer, lighter (.088 ounce) pennies. More than that if older pennies are mixed in. 

There we go! 

[Jkwellborn 6,695]

Pay the fine in pennies
 
 
 

Twist-A-Pepper caps have like $.0001 value. Use those.

[BurntOrange&White 39,930]

https://x.com/txforever/status/1695584342871880153?s=46&t=oC0-l2xwOjUxAomKreGliA
 

[Dnaguy 11,921]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:33 AM, Dennis Taylor said:

Pay the fine in pennies