Fuck Big 12 refs

[Deej 76869]

There needs to be a way to swap out Big 12 crews for crews from other conferences for our games. They can't be trusted. 

Kind of like the jury swap in The Untouchables. 

[thunderlounge 7898]

31 minutes ago, cochamps said:

One of them took a solid hit late in the game late Q3, I think.  At the time, it was the best play of the game.  Just disappointed we couldn't get the jack wagon in the white cap.

Patience is a virtue.

What goes around, comes around.

 

[El Squared 1813]

26 minutes ago, Deej said:

There needs to be a way to swap out Big 12 crews for crews from other conferences for our games. They can't be trusted. 

Kind of like the jury swap in The Untouchables. 

Yes!. If the league persists in this fuckery , demand a non B12 crew or you don’t get your exit money. See us at the courthouse!.

The refuckery will cost us a close game, like it has not infrequently in the past, that is intentional harm and tortuous interference with UT Football Inc. Stick it to the league where it hurts, in their purse.

[scottsins 1968]

Administration error of the spot. No harm done and no time off the clock. I’ve seen games where at like the end of the 1st Qtr, ball spotted on the left hash, they switch fields, and the ball is now placed on the right hash “erroneously”, therefore officials TO and correct it prior to play resuming.

Just saying - it happens, just usually not on the big stage.

Hook’em!!!

Also, I’m trying to read the actual rules and I *think* the deal with not reviewing the spot was correct last night, but a really dumb fucking rule. From what I’ve read, they can only use replay review to determine if a ball carrier made a first down or TD, or to just correct a routine spot in other situations.

That is a stupid rule because 3 yards are 3 yards. For a first down, yards 1-3 are just as important as yards 8-10. It shouldn’t even need a challenge. It should be one of those quick fix things like we see in the NFL now.

[statsman 5473]

The Bog 12 is playing with fire. If someone were to get advance notice that the Mar crew was going to work a Texas game (maybe a relative knows where they’re flying, or someone recognizes Mar at the airport), and then places a really big bet against Texas (knowing the spread is now “off” by seven to ten points) and collects…and talks about it. 
 
Something like that could destroy the career opportunities of Big XII refs. They may be having a lot of fun now, but they are playing with fire. 
 
As to the argument that Mar’s crew is just incompetent…in the last three Texas games they’ve worked, how many of their stupid screw ups helped Texas?

[Zeus 6108]

these turds going to be so flushed next year

[Rickylovesweed 14534]

Beyond being incompetent, every game involving Kevin Mar is just a complete mess because there's no rhythm in the game. All the penalties combined with him taking 5 minutes to make a decision is so infuriating. 

 

[Tex Pete 20425]

6 hours ago, Bill Lumbergh said:

I was today years old when I learned that Big 12 referee Kevin Mar, lover of Texas football, is a resident of Omaha Nebraska.

That’s good. I fly into and out of Omaha fairly regularly via DFW. I’m guessing that’s also how Mr. Mar travels to Big 12 destinations. I won’t be shy about speaking to him if I see him. 

[Rickylovesweed 14534]

I posted this in the Baylor thread but Baylor's OL is one of the most penalized in the country. They get called for a ton of pre-snap penalties and holds. 

This will be a great week to see if the Big 12 fuckery is truly on. One of the most undisciplined OL's getting no penalties will be a sight to see.  

 

[Deej 76869]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

these turds going to be so flushed next year

He's just upset that his wife masturbates to Quinn.

[Deej 76869]

5 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I posted this in the Baylor thread but Baylor's OL is one of the most penalized in the country. They get called for a ton of pre-snap penalties and holds

I bet they have almost no calls against them this week. 

[Deej 76869]

2 hours ago, statsman said:

Something like that could destroy the career opportunities of Big XII refs

They could just go back to living in Katy and selling insurance. 

[TrashMaster G 17583]

33 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

That’s good. I fly into and out of Omaha fairly regularly via DFW. I’m guessing that’s also how Mr. Mar travels to Big 12 destinations. I won’t be shy about speaking to him if I see him. 

Mr. Mar and his crew of assholes need a good doxxing.

[Bill Lumbergh 7171]

3 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Mr. Mar and his crew of assholes need a good doxxing.

I didn't even post mine to doxx him (it's relatively easy to find if you search him).

I'm simply not surprised a Nebraska resident might want to see Texas lose.

[Hard Times 302]

5 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

That’s good. I fly into and out of Omaha fairly regularly via DFW. I’m guessing that’s also how Mr. Mar travels to Big 12 destinations. I won’t be shy about speaking to him if I see him. 

Speaking to him?? How about as good punch in the face.

[BurntOrange&White 39939]

6 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I posted this in the Baylor thread but Baylor's OL is one of the most penalized in the country. They get called for a ton of pre-snap penalties and holds. 

So we can expect a penalty free game in Big 12 play?

[Dennis Taylor 18849]

6 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I posted this in the Baylor thread but Baylor's OL is one of the most penalized in the country. They get called for a ton of pre-snap penalties and holds. 

This will be a great week to see if the Big 12 fuckery is truly on. One of the most undisciplined OL's getting no penalties will be a sight to see.  

 

I'll take the under 

[cochamps 1879]

I don't know about pre-snap penalties, but I would take zero on Baylor holding penalties.  😡😡😡

[utee94 15835]

14 minutes ago, cochamps said:

I don't know about pre-snap penalties, but I would take zero on Baylor holding penalties.  😡😡😡

Yeah it's hard to NOT call pre-snap penalties, but if there's any refs in the country that can do it, I have faith in the B12 crews!

[Dennis Taylor 18849]

5 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Yeah it's hard to NOT call pre-snap penalties, but if there's any refs in the country that can do it, I have faith in the B12 crews!

They can always say the defense drew them off or go with "disconcerting signals"...thanks a lot Jimbo

[stork642 4498]

7 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I posted this in the Baylor thread but Baylor's OL is one of the most penalized in the country. They get called for a ton of pre-snap penalties and holds. 

This will be a great week to see if the Big 12 fuckery is truly on. One of the most undisciplined OL's getting no penalties will be a sight to see.  

 

Not this week.  Not this week.  

[Nueces River Rat 5539]

9 hours ago, Zeus said:

these turds going to be so flushed next year

Had it been an opposing player , the Rig 12 stripes would’ve let them taunt the crowd all he wanted.  

[dcar00 14319]

8 hours ago, Deej said:

I bet they have almost no calls against them this week. 

well, duh, it is known that the biggest improvement in OL play is between the 3rd and 4th games - Rig 12 commissioner

[Zeus 6108]

3 hours ago, Hard Times said:

Speaking to him?? How about as good punch in the face.

in minecraft

[deft 6862]

That official was already moving toward Quinn before he got off the ground or had the chance to “spike” the ball. He was definitely planning on giving him the business regardless.


Edit: the, three….whatever it takes

[thunderlounge 7898]

Three business what?

[Jkwellborn 6716]

That official was already moving toward Quinn before he got off the ground or had the chance to “spike” the ball. He was definitely planning on giving him the business regardless.


Edit: the, three….whatever it takes

Or maybe he was going to get the ball.

[AUS-97HORN 11812]

I honestly think the ref running after Quinn was a result of him miming the "take off helmet" move.  which as we all know is a 15yard unsportsman.  

 

I hate the refs, but that ref didnt start moving fast to get into his face until Quinn looked like he might be taking his helmet off, then maybe spiking it (which is also against the rules).

[Billy Pilgrim 1983]

The first thing all these players do is loosen their chin straps. I don’t think he was acting like he was taking off his helmet, just loosening it since the play was over.

[JBJ 3664]

I rewatched the game for whatever reason:

1) The spot was really bad.  The linesman on that side got demolished, but it should have been a better spot regardless.  BTW, it's not a reviewable play, but also, technically, any obvious error with significant game impact can be reviewed.  Basically, it's a judgement call whether to review or not, but we aren't entitled to challenge it.  Taking 5 minutes to decide something is not worth the time to review is so on brand.

2) I'm okay with the non-PI call on Sanders up the seam.  The defender doesn't have to move out of position to provide a clean path to the ball.  It doesn't look like there's any grabbing or excess pushing.  The only thing that bugs me is that we definitely have been and would be called for this.

3) Speaking of which, the DPI call on Brooks(?) bad.  For all the reasons stated above, but there's also barely any contact.  I think this got called because the WR knew he was beat and gave up on the play.  I don't think it was uncatchable, fwiw.  It probably was actually uncatchable, but it was close enough that you don't rule it that way.

4) The Ewers TD thing was definitely the spike,  He didn't really spike it, but he dropped it aggressively enough that it took a big bounce.  It's not uncommon to have refs warn you for things like that.

[Doc Daneeka 6769]

#1 Yeah, if they want to put it anywhere between the 10 1/2 and the 12, it would be vaguely reasonable. The 8? Nah.

#2 and #3: Just be consistent for both teams. 

#4 There’s plenty of time for the official to warn him without shutting down his celebration way from any defenders. 

[sith_horn 2407]

12 minutes ago, JBJ said:

I'm okay with the non-PI call on Sanders up the seam.  The defender doesn't have to move out of position to provide a clean path to the ball.  It doesn't look like there's any grabbing or excess pushing.  The only thing that bugs me is that we definitely have been and would be called for this.

That was my take. Sanders didn't have the defender beat well enough to cross his path and get that ball without contact. Whether Sanders didn't quite run his route right or Ewers was off, either way, they weren't in synch.

Of course, DBs get called for PI all the time if they are trailing directly behind and the ball is underthrown unless they get their head turned around to theoretically play the ball. But this was a little different than that. In my opinion, that shouldn't be PI either, but such is how they rule it (unless Texas is the receiver in Rig 12).

[wood 11231]

Who are these assholes  and what have they done with the real Rig 12 refs?

It's only a half though. Give it time, I guess.

[PvilleStang 2917]

They clearly bet the over and have Texas covering

[Cap33 384]

It's obvious that this is no contest. So they'll flag Baylor enough to be able to point at this game and say, "See, here's a game where your opponent had more penalties than you, so stop whining."

[Eskimohorn 5642]

It's obvious that this is no contest. So they'll flag Baylor enough to be able to point at this game and say, "See, here's a game where your opponent had more penalties than you, so stop whining."

What the 5th time in 5 years? Where’s our chart?

[Nivek 16949]

There has been a whole lot of holding by that baylor offensive line. Enough to save them from a sack but not a pressure or bad pass.

[scottsins 1968]

There has been a whole lot of holding by that baylor offensive line. Enough to save them from a sack but not a pressure or bad pass.

And ridiculous spots.

[deft 6862]

^este

[lilMAC25 3801]

41 minutes ago, Nivek said:

There has been a whole lot of holding by that baylor offensive line. Enough to save them from a sack but not a pressure or bad pass.

An abundance of holding.

[Hagbard Celine 10903]

in only counted 2 fuckeries tonight

win early

win big

driver you enemies before you

hear the wailing and lamentation of their wimmen

avoid fuckery

[TrashMaster G 17583]

The fuckery was still there.

Baylor's first scoring drive on the long pass completion their WR gave our guy a clear shove to get separation. 

Same drive the defensive PI was on an uncatchable ball.

Next quarter a long pass play to inside the 10 clearly wasn't a catch and they didn't even review.

[Biff Tannen 45696]

1 minute ago, TrashMaster G said:

Next quarter a long pass play to inside the 10 clearly wasn't a catch and they didn't even review.

If you're talking about when the ball came out and rolled into the end zone, I think it was a catch and a fumble.  I don't believe he was down when the ball came out.

[Pato del Muerto 52542]

41 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

If you're talking about when the ball came out and rolled into the end zone, I think it was a catch and a fumble.  I don't believe he was down when the ball came out.

I think it was clearly a catch, and unclear whether a fumble or down, and should have been looked at. 

[Biff Tannen 45696]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I think it was clearly a catch, and unclear whether a fumble or down, and should have been looked at. 

Ultimately doesn’t matter because Ford picked them off and we went on a 95 yard TD drive, but yes. 

[ImissWallyPryor 9046]

On 9/18/2023 at 7:08 AM, Nueces River Rat said:

Had it been an opposing player , the Rig 12 stripes would’ve let them taunt the crowd all he wanted.  

Sorry for the delayed response, but was there a significant WY contingent to taunt in the NW end zone?

[Nivek 16949]

16 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

The fuckery was still there.

Baylor's first scoring drive on the long pass completion their WR gave our guy a clear shove to get separation. 

Same drive the defensive PI was on an uncatchable ball.

Next quarter a long pass play to inside the 10 clearly wasn't a catch and they didn't even review.

Rig 12 really tried to manufacture yards for Baylor.  Gave them a free pass for holding but only called them on a play where it was going to be declined.  Ignored intentional grounding and some obvious hands to the face.  

This conference sucks, and it's too bad it will 'survive' when we leave. 

[Dennis Taylor 18849]

That was such a physical mismatch it wasn't going to make a shit so they didn't bother trying to fuck us in that one. 

[billfromlaketravis 11520]

17 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

If you're talking about when the ball came out and rolled into the end zone, I think it was a catch and a fumble.  I don't believe he was down when the ball came out.

Sark needed to be faster on the timeout. Ford should have also been asking for one. 
 

I kind of expect one screw job per Big 12 game. At least this one was almost completely inconsequential. 
 

I also hated the spot on Robertson’s first down run inside the red zone. He’s short 2 maybe 3 yards. So I’m thinking at worst they’ll mark it a yard short. Nope just gave him the first down with a second look. 

[Bevoette 1288]

I'm beginning to think that all the big 12 refs are buttholes! Correction fucking buttholes.

 

I mean once again not calling obvious past interferences on Baylor Defenders smothering our receivers