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Ken Paxton is dirty? NO FUCKING WAY!


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Nate's deal includes him not having to testify openly about Paxton on anything.  He's only cooperating in written testimony that can only be seen by defense, judge, and jury.  Whether that's the State Senate or a Federal District Court.  As we've discussed, the whole thing was moved up way ahead in timeline, but I'm pretty sure that's the situation here.  That such protections were pre-negotiated leads me to affirm another thing we've discussed.  This playbook against Paxton has been sitting on a shelf for a long while waiting to be deployed.  What triggered it will be very difficult to ascertain with so many more people involved in it now.  But there are an awful lot of Paxton supporters both in the Legislature, the Mansion, and in prominent GOP land nationwide that are shockingly silent right now.  

I predict we're just a few weeks away from, "Who?  Ken Parsons?  Lev Paxton?  No, never heard of him.  "

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1 hour ago, BearSchlong said:

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That is some funny stuff.
More like this.

Young conservatives concern me.

 

I was today years old when I realized the actor playing Neidermeyeris is the same guy as Maestro in Seinfeld.

 

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His "real name" in the episode is Bob Cobb.  Another character in "Curb" is named Bob Cobb who claims to be descended from the family that invented the Cobb Salad. 

If you listen closely in "Twilight Zone: the Movie" in the first main segment when the character is in Vietnam.  You can overhear two U.S. army guys discussing their shock that his own troops killed Neidermeyer.   As was posited ten years earlier in the Animal House "where are they now" closing credits.  

The actor, Bob Metcalf, also played the Dad in the famous Twisted Sister video, "We're not Gonna Take It"  

Also Ken Paxton was rooting for Greg and Dougie and the other Hitler Youth in "Animal House" 

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3 hours ago, YGIFS said:

What triggered it will be very difficult to ascertain with so many more people involved in it now.  But there are an awful lot of Paxton supporters both in the Legislature, the Mansion, and in prominent GOP land nationwide that are shockingly silent right now.  

I figured it was him trying to get the legislature to cover his ass with the $3.3 million - had they done it, it would have helped him keep some of the wrongdoings quiet or whatever (the whistleblowers couldn't testify? because of NDA/settlement).

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On 5/27/2023 at 10:55 PM, Helobious said:

So I didn’t really have an understanding of what Paxton did and never in a million years thought any Rs would go against him. He should find much friendlier results for him in the senate right? I mean I think he should go but find it hard to believe it would ever happen.

Ballgame?

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Well according to one of our resident Surly conservatives, Dems forced him to vote for this criminal because they ran someone who worked for , let me check my notes here......oh yeah, the ACLU.

 

He didn't have a choice.  Poor guy.

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12 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Nate's deal includes him not having to testify openly about Paxton on anything.  He's only cooperating in written testimony that can only be seen by defense, judge, and jury.  Whether that's the State Senate or a Federal District Court.  As we've discussed, the whole thing was moved up way ahead in timeline, but I'm pretty sure that's the situation here.  That such protections were pre-negotiated leads me to affirm another thing we've discussed.  This playbook against Paxton has been sitting on a shelf for a long while waiting to be deployed.  What triggered it will be very difficult to ascertain with so many more people involved in it now.  But there are an awful lot of Paxton supporters both in the Legislature, the Mansion, and in prominent GOP land nationwide that are shockingly silent right now.  

I predict we're just a few weeks away from, "Who?  Ken Parsons?  Lev Paxton?  No, never heard of him.  "

He has a deal with the state Senate, or with federal prosecutors? I would assume the senate can subpoena whomever they life and any deal with another govt agency doesn't matter. Now obviously he can refuse to testify. 

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16 hours ago, FartingDreamer said:

Republican's not giving a shit about teachers?  Color me shocked!

I'll take a chance and presume to speak for teachers; not caring about them would be an improvement from GOPs.

As is, the GOPs blame teachers for everything from turning children into socialists to grooming them as future butt boys. 

Electing a GOP government at any level is choosing poison and delighting at the sugar coating on the pill.

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10 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

He has a deal with the state Senate, or with federal prosecutors? I would assume the senate can subpoena whomever they life and any deal with another govt agency doesn't matter. Now obviously he can refuse to testify. 

No the deal is with the Feds.  But if the State Senate overly compels him to testify (and I doubt they would considering half of them have donations from Nate), the Feds would take somebody aside and tell them "Yeah, that's not happening...what he has to say can't be broadcast from the upper chamber's floor on national television."  They're not terribly concerned with whether or not Paxton is in/out of office, though it'd be more convenient if he was out of office.  The criminal and civil cases against Ken can be prosecuted either way with Nate's help.  And there's also an international component to this that is beyond the scope of our honorable State Senate.  

Again, two things.  This was to be the arrangement down the road.  It got slid up to a holiday weekend in the waning hours of session, so it's hard to tell what has changed and what hasn't.  The only constant isn't if Paxton is in the deepest of shit, it's just a question of who he's taking out with him.  

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Meh, they make up less than 15% of the population now.  But boy do they get out and vote, gotta give 'em that.  It's the exurb and non-college suburban voters doing the real heavy lifting for the assholes in our state leadership though.  

This state is the perfect embodiment, down to within the margin of error, of what is really happening politically in this country.  It is not blue states versus red states, that's a myth being sold for convenience and grift.  The showdown is urban/college suburban versus rural/non-college suburban.  And it's playing out in ~35-40 states or so.  I'll save the TPP breakdown for another thread.  But Texas is a perfect microcosm.  

People just write off the big 5 counties as blue, everything else as red.  But the political fate of Texas will be decided by mid-sized cities like Fort Worth, Corpus, the three counties of the RGV, Lubbock, Laredo, Beaumont, et. al.  And not along racial lines anymore.  But primarily along the lines of age and education level.  Suburbs and smaller cities break according to those two even more going forward.  

There's a reason Ken and Greg and others are dismantling education.  It's not about parent choice or any of that shit, it's about making us dumber so we don't learn to vote for our own interests.  

And oh yeah Ken, you totally should have not have protected a money laundering scheme for drug money.  Not the best call buddy.

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1 hour ago, YGIFS said:

  It's the exurb and non-college suburban voters doing the real heavy lifting for the assholes in our state leadership though.  

 

You just described my brother-in-law.  Dropped out of HS to marry girl he knocked up, lives in Wylie with his motorcycle and lots of guns and posts constantly the latest misinformation garbage on Twitter (though thankfully he blocked me a long time ago). 

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I was today years old when I realized the actor playing Neidermeyeris is the same guy as Maestro in Seinfeld.
 

Watching Seinfeld in real-time, we all recognized that actor. He was more famous for his Neidermayer reprisal in the Twister Sister video.
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Can anyone force Angela Paxton to recuse herself?

Even though she may be mad at Ken's affair, or more likely mad that it was publicized, most politicians look at self interest first. It is almost certainly better for her if her husband is the Texas AG as opposed to being married to the guy who was tossed out of office.

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5 minutes ago, pacman said:

turns out stop the steal was real after all #everyAccusationIsAConfession

 

It seems like this should be a bigger deal than Paxton just being a cock-eyed criminal.

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38 minutes ago, pacman said:

turns out stop the steal was real after all #everyAccusationIsAConfession

 

Everyone who voted by mail in 2020 was a damn fool.  They announced they were going after these votes before the election.  

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2 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

You just described my brother-in-law.  Dropped out of HS to marry girl he knocked up, lives in Wylie with his motorcycle and lots of guns and posts constantly the latest misinformation garbage on Twitter (though thankfully he blocked me a long time ago). 

exactly like the founding fathers drew it up and envisioned for us.

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1 hour ago, pacman said:

turns out stop the steal was real after all #everyAccusationIsAConfession

 

Did he really though? This seems like some MAGA level exaggerating (biggest inauguration crowd ever, millions of illegals are caravanning across our border every day, I actually won the election by millions of votes, etc) If he did, where are the ballots now? Was that what was going on in the dumpster fire behind his office? (As opposed to the dumpster fire IN his office) 

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He can also rely on the fact that during the video he said "2.5mm votes from Harris County", which no reasonable person would believe considering it doesn't even have 2.5mm votes total, let alone for one candidate/party.  Hyperbole, showmanship, podcast banter, etc.  If he deflect laundering drug money for 8 years, he can sure as shit say, "I made a benign mistake on a shitty podcast without the facts in front of me."  

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5 minutes ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

Did he really though? This seems like some MAGA level exaggerating (biggest inauguration crowd ever, millions of illegals are caravanning across our border every day, I actually won the election by millions of votes, etc) If he did, where are the ballots now? Was that what was going on in the dumpster fire behind his office? (As opposed to the dumpster fire IN his office) 

Yeah, I don't believe that.

And here's the truth. https://truthout.org/articles/texas-ag-says-he-helped-trump-win-state-with-his-lawsuit-against-mail-in-ballots/

Paxton sued, successfully,  to stop the election officials of Harris and some other counties from doing mass mailings of ballot applications, not blank ballots, and not marked ballots.

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, I don't believe that.

And here's the truth. https://truthout.org/articles/texas-ag-says-he-helped-trump-win-state-with-his-lawsuit-against-mail-in-ballots/

Paxton sued, successfully,  to stop the election officials of Harris and some other counties from doing mass mailings of ballot applications, not blank ballots, and not marked ballots.

Thank you for this clarification so I didn’t do something rash. 

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Can anyone force Angela Paxton to recuse herself?

Even though she may be mad at Ken's affair, or more likely mad that it was publicized, most politicians look at self interest first. It is almost certainly better for her if her husband is the Texas AG as opposed to being married to the guy who was tossed out of office.

Maybe?

A member who has a personal or private interest in any measure or bill, proposed, or pending before the Legislature, shall disclose the fact to the House, of which he is a member, and shall not vote thereon. TX CONST Art. 3, § 22.

A member of the legislature may not vote on a measure or a bill, other than a measure that will affect an entire class of business entities, that will directly benefit a specific business transaction of a business entity in which the member has a controlling interest. Tex. Gov't Code Ann. § 572.053. Before introducing, sponsoring or voting on a bill on a subject area in which a lobbyist who is the legislator's spouse or first degree relative, the legislator must file a disclosure statement. Tex. Gov't Code Ann. § 572.0531.

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10 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Maybe?

A member who has a personal or private interest in any measure or bill, proposed, or pending before the Legislature, shall disclose the fact to the House, of which he is a member, and shall not vote thereon. TX CONST Art. 3, § 22.

A member of the legislature may not vote on a measure or a bill, other than a measure that will affect an entire class of business entities, that will directly benefit a specific business transaction of a business entity in which the member has a controlling interest. Tex. Gov't Code Ann. § 572.053. Before introducing, sponsoring or voting on a bill on a subject area in which a lobbyist who is the legislator's spouse or first degree relative, the legislator must file a disclosure statement. Tex. Gov't Code Ann. § 572.0531.

Yes...but see....what that presupposes is that any of the law or rules apply to GQP officials, or that they'll actually follow them.  They don't.  And they won't.  

Which is why the whole Paxton impeachment is a bit mysterious.  The one thing we know is that it is NOT an example of the GQP standing up for the rule of law and applying it to themselves.  Instead, it's about their self-preservation for some mysterious reasons we don't yet fully understand.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, I don't believe that.

And here's the truth. https://truthout.org/articles/texas-ag-says-he-helped-trump-win-state-with-his-lawsuit-against-mail-in-ballots/

Paxton sued, successfully,  to stop the election officials of Harris and some other counties from doing mass mailings of ballot applications, not blank ballots, and not marked ballots.

Ha. When I saw the link it made me realize that texag is Paxton by another name. 

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes...but see....what that presupposes is that any of the law or rules apply to GQP officials, or that they'll actually follow them.  They don't.  And they won't.  

Which is why the whole Paxton impeachment is a bit mysterious.  The one thing we know is that it is NOT an example of the GQP standing up for the rule of law and applying it to themselves.  Instead, it's about their self-preservation for some mysterious reasons we don't yet fully understand.

Yep, law and ethics are for pussies.

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I’m gladTwiceHorn already addressed it, but Paxton is shitpumping his effort to stop applications from being auto sent within major counties in Texas to every registered voter. He didn’t stop any voter from getting one if they wanted to apply themselves.

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15 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

I’m gladTwiceHorn already addressed it, but Paxton is shitpumping his effort to stop applications from being auto sent within major counties in Texas to every registered voter. He didn’t stop any voter from getting one if they wanted to apply themselves.

If I voted last time, do I have to register again?  I’ve never had a problem, but I also won’t underestimate the fuckery these people are capable of.

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