Aggy 2024: Still waiting on the Looch 44

[troph 24562]

A lot of y’all are missing the point. Re-read (or read for the first time @Pato del Muerto’s post above). It’s not about what the recruits think it’s about finding NIL and A&M needs emotionally hooked boosters right now. The close loss was to sell gullible boosters on funding their bag game. Money will get players so they just need the money. And as an incentive, boosters will see NIL as cheaper than a contractual buyout.
  

[BurntOrange&White 39644]

26 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

I know Jimbo is a snake oil salesman but how many times can you sell close losses when you're 6 years in. At least Sark is in year 3 and showing progress.

If you pay enough probably more than you think

[Kwix 2186]

43 minutes ago, troph said:

A lot of y’all are missing the point. Re-read (or read for the first time @Pato del Muerto’s post above). It’s not about what the recruits think it’s about finding NIL and A&M needs emotionally hooked boosters right now. The close loss was to sell gullible boosters on funding their bag game. Money will get players so they just need the money. And as an incentive, boosters will see NIL as cheaper than a contractual buyout.
  

I get what you're saying, but I think Texas being good is a far bigger hook for aggy boosters than anything Jimbo will ever do or not do. 

[troph 24562]

Just now, Kwix said:

I get what you're saying, but I think Texas being good is a far bigger hook for aggy boosters than anything Jimbo will ever do or not do. 

Probably true and hope that talent can win despite jumbo because they lost a close game is aggy fools gold.

[SHOOTER12 8789]

6 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

A close loss to Bama got them Demas few years ago iirc. I guess you can sell hope only for so long.

Yeah, and look at the genius he turned out to be. They'd have been better off landing(and paying for)a tuna.

[Rudiger 1160]

1 hour ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Yeah, and look at the genius he turned out to be. They'd have been better off landing(and paying for)a tuna.

I grant you a tuna would have world-class speed, but how’s it going to catch a ball genius?

[cmontexas 3252]

2 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Yeah, and look at the genius he turned out to be. They'd have been better off landing(and paying for)a tuna.

Until we get our Hindsight machine up and running, I would still prefer landing 5* players vs not landing them

[SHOOTER12 8789]

39 minutes ago, Rudiger said:

I grant you a tuna would have world-class speed, but how’s it going to catch a ball genius?

He wouldn't, just like a lot of receivers.

[Duane Moore 5236]

I get @Pato del Muerto ‘s point and it’s probably not wrong. But if it’s the case that the boosters are just pot-committed to Jimbo and chasing good money after bad, then yesterday’s result shouldn’t make any difference. That was the worst Bama team since Saban’s first year there, and ATM couldn’t beat them yet again, at home, largely because of coaching malpractice rather than a huge talent discrepancy. If anything, watching that game might make someone think that the right person (cough: Urban Meyer :cough) could take the talent that’s on campus already  and get over the hump with it. 

[nnm 36084]

4 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

I get @Pato del Muerto ‘s point and it’s probably not wrong. But if it’s the case that the boosters are just pot-committed to Jimbo and chasing good money after bad, then yesterday’s result shouldn’t make any difference. That was the worst Bama team since Saban’s first year there, and ATM couldn’t beat them yet again, at home, largely because of coaching malpractice rather than a huge talent discrepancy. If anything, watching that game might make someone think that the right person (cough: Urban Meyer :cough) could take the talent that’s on campus already  and get over the hump with it. 

If only there were a precedent for someone inheriting a talented team and winning a MNC in spite of his <100 IQ. Where could they find someone like that?

[KeysPhoneWallet 807]

I know Jimbo is a snake oil salesman but how many times can you sell close losses when you're 6 years in. At least Sark is in year 3 and showing progress.

These two things aren’t equivalent. A&M showed they still aren’t good enough but will try to sell that they are just a few pieces away. We were good enough. We had the lead Witt a min. We didn’t lose bc we don’t have the players. Ours was just a freak as outcome from a freak ass game. Everyone that watched saw that was a freak ass game. Not an indictment of where our program is.

We can’t pretend the two programs are in the same spot. We’re legitimate they are smoke and mirrors and it will forever be next year.

[Deej 76559]

I wish we were playing them this year.

[Michael Knight 12888]

13 minutes ago, KeysPhoneWallet said:

These two things aren’t equivalent. A&M showed they still aren’t good enough but will try to sell that they are just a few pieces away. We were good enough. We had the lead Witt a min. We didn’t lose bc we don’t have the players. Ours was just a freak as outcome from a freak ass game. Everyone that watched saw that was a freak ass game. Not an indictment of where our program is.

We can’t pretend the two programs are in the same spot. We’re legitimate they are smoke and mirrors and it will forever be next year.

Well we coulda used 1 more cb or maybe a safety

[The Gimp 345]

1 hour ago, nnm said:

If only there were a precedent for someone inheriting a talented team and winning a MNC in spite of his <100 IQ. Where could they find someone like that?

Tanned.  Rested.  Ready.  

[Getafix 28416]

 

From Aggie 247.

 

 

 

[TonyTexas 10482]

3 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

If anything, watching that game might make someone think that the right person (cough: Urban Meyer :cough) could take the talent that’s on campus already  and get over the hump with it. 

I’m not sure Urban would be successful in today’s college environment. He’s such an asshole, his portal defections might equal Deion’s roster turnover 

[nnm 36084]

27 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

I’m not sure Urban would be successful in today’s college environment. He’s such an asshole, his portal defections might equal Deion’s roster turnover 

That would be glorious. Make it so. 

[HtownHorn 14484]

21 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

4-2 is halfway to 8-4 is it not?  They’re right on schedule.  Gonna need one of their three roadies remaining though againt Tennessee, ole miss, and lsu. 

Yeah, but they are running out of G5/FCS schools. They only have 1 during the back half of the schedule. Tennessee, Ole Miss, and LSU are going to be losses.

[Elmer_Fudd 22108]

2 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Yeah, but they are running out of G5/FCS schools. They only have 1 during the back half of the schedule. Tennessee, Ole Miss, and LSU are going to be losses.

I want to think they'll have the yearly loss at home to a team they should beat, but Miss. State and South Carolina probably ain't gone do it.  Wish the Pirate was still around.

[HtownHorn 14484]

Just now, Elmer_Fudd said:

I want to think they'll have the yearly loss at home to a team they should beat, but Miss. State and South Carolina probably ain't gone do it.  Wish the Pirate was still around.

Yeah, their floor right now is 7-5. Boosters aren't giving to bags when they are going to have to scrap together the money to buy him and his assistants out.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

I want to think they'll have the yearly loss at home to a team they should beat, but Miss. State and South Carolina probably ain't gone do it.  Wish the Pirate was still around.

Traded that for taking an L against an actual team on the road in out of conference play. 

[Butch Had Not 2940]

1 hour ago, Getafix said:

 

From Aggie 247.

 

 

 

I would love to hear an aggy booster call into the Dave Ramsey show and explain how he has a million in debt with an insurance agents income.

[HtownHorn 14484]

Just now, Pato del Muerto said:

Traded that for taking an L against an actual team on the road in out of conference play. 

"Actual" is a pretty significant leap after yesterday. Holy shit, Cristobal is a fucking moron.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Fair

[Mother mopar 3301]

 
From Aggie 247.
 

 
 

Damn, that is some black tar type heroin there.

[TommyGufano 6021]

 

They should continue to focus on DL and WR

[Vermin 3042]

The recruiting services had Bison Tits as a top 50 national player, what a joke.

[Stinkpalm 677]

1 hour ago, Vermin said:

The recruiting services had Bison Tits as a top 50 national player, what a joke.

“Mongo only pawn… in game of recruiting”

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

2 hours ago, Vermin said:

The recruiting services had Bison Tits as a top 50 national player, what a joke.

I guarantee that you can peruse the aggy screenshot thread from the summer and find mods posting that he’s been running with the ones and looking great!

[Hank_Hill 18486]

5 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

 

They should continue to focus on DL and WR

I witnessed Bryce Foster snap the ball and then fall over backwards literally untouched like one of those fainting goats. Legit laughed out loud. Someone find it and gif it please. 

[Getafix 28416]

1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

I witnessed Bryce Foster snap the ball and then fall over backwards literally untouched like one of those fainting goats. Legit laughed out loud. Someone find it and gif it please. 

 

 

Not a gif, but the video is set to begin w/ that play.

He tripped on Nabou - that at least contributed - but lulz, nevertheless.

 

 

 

 

[NoName 16292]

9 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

 

They should continue to focus on DL and WR

when keeping Dameyune Craig isn't the decision you make with a position coach year over year (it's keeping Steve Addazio) you have made a huge mistake.

Edited October 9, 2023 by NoName

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

10 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

 

They should continue to focus on DL and WR

How the fuck is Max Johnson still alive?

[JesusSweatDuck 17780]

4 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

I witnessed Bryce Foster snap the ball and then fall over backwards literally untouched like one of those fainting goats. Legit laughed out loud. Someone find it and gif it please. 

 

 

 

[irishtexan 11445]

9 hours ago, Vermin said:

The recruiting services had Bison Tits as a top 50 national player, what a joke.

And Rivals had Bryce Foster as the #15 overall player in the class. He's good at shot put, so he must be really good at football too. Another joke...

[Chips O'Toole 1316]

I audibly gasped when I saw that play live. I thought Max had just been swallowed into a hole in the Earth's crust. 

[closetojumping 62229]

On 10/7/2023 at 6:02 PM, billfromlaketravis said:

Read ctj’s post above. Other than winning, this is exactly what they wanted. 

The good thing is, there is a difference between what a staff is thinking and telling folks covering the sport and what reality looks like when it sets in.

On 10/7/2023 at 6:07 PM, Hank_Hill said:

Win or close loss is what the staff wanted. That doesn’t mean recruits see it the same. We’ll see if it works, but it’s the money that will talk. All that matters.

The buzz isn't good. One of the folks I know pretty well who has helped in recruiting that I've told stories about before isn't pumped about a close loss. They're convinced, this week, the guy is a loser who will never get him over the top. We'll see if a win in Rocky Top or some streak after that changes anything. These are aggies. 

[NoName 16292]

Just now, closetojumping said:

The buzz isn't good. One of the folks I know pretty well who has helped in recruiting that I've told stories about before isn't pumped about a close loss. They're convinced, this week, the guy is a loser who will never get him over the top. We'll see if a win in Rocky Top or some streak after that changes anything. These are aggies. 

at this point we are 7 years since he won 10 games. we are 10 years past him winning a national championship. We are 9 years past him winning a conf championship. he's finished unranked in the AP poll (3) more often than he has finished ranked (2)

he constantly looks under prepared on the sideline

his teams are now in year 3 of taking a step back every single year.

he can't keep a QB healthy.

percentage wise he has won fewer games than Sumlin (66.2% for Sumlin, 65.2% for Jimbo) and has somehow only won 4% more conf games than Sumlin (52.1% to 56.8%) - he's only ever had 2 winning conference seasons - Sumlin only had 1 losing conference season. dude went 4-4 a lot but still.

%wise for him to tie Sumlin for win% he had to win 10 games I think (10-3) and he is 4-2. so 1 loss the rest of the way lol

going 51-26 got Sumlin fired by the boosters.

they may not be able to fire him $$ wise but they can turn off the spigots quickly and remind him who is really in charge. the issue they are going to have is that he is a very, very, very stubborn man and he is going to take that about as bad as any coach in the country - see how he handled that at FSU.

either way they made their bed with this fucking guy and now have to live with it.

i couldn't be happier

 

 

[BurntOrange&White 39644]

58 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The good thing is, there is a difference between what a staff is thinking and telling folks covering the sport and what reality looks like when it sets in.

The buzz isn't good. One of the folks I know pretty well who has helped in recruiting that I've told stories about before isn't pumped about a close loss. They're convinced, this week, the guy is a loser who will never get him over the top. We'll see if a win in Rocky Top or some streak after that changes anything. These are aggies. 

Either way it should have been double digit win if not for Dallas Turner penalty on the blocked kick. 

Reality sets in fast when you aren't playing at home. Knoxville should be rowdy for them.

Edited October 9, 2023 by BurntOrange&White

[Deej 76559]

It's hard to learn what it takes to win on the road when you play eight home games every season. 

[Wiler77 1557]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&amp;White said:

Reality sets in fast when you aren't playing at home. Knoxville should be rowdy for them.

The Vols are coming off a bye week as well.  Although my guess is they were more getting ready for Bama, who they play the week after the Ags, than really prepping for A&M.  Hopefully they aren't looking past this game.  Tennessee doesn't appear to be good enough to look past anybody and it not be a problem.

[Foosters 17730]

How some of you can be reading the endless gnashing of teeth and lamentations on Texags while also concluding that this "close loss" will give the boosters the kick in the pants needed to send their NIL war machine into maximum overdrive, is very curious.

[Hornlover 8824]

49 minutes ago, NoName said:

 

they may not be able to fire him $$ wise but they can turn off the spigots quickly and remind him who is really in charge.

 

I can see boosters who decide to not throw good money after bad, but this scenario of "I'm going to show Jimbo by not funding recruiting" is just wishcasting.

[NoName 16292]

Just now, Hornlover said:

I can see boosters who decide to not throw good money after bad, but this scenario of "I'm going to show Jimbo by not funding recruiting" is just wishcasting.

hey i can wishcast if i want to!

[Atticus 3922]

6 minutes ago, Wiler77 said:

The Vols are coming off a bye week as well.  Although my guess is they were more getting ready for Bama, who they play the week after the Ags, than really prepping for A&M.  Hopefully they aren't looking past this game.  Tennessee doesn't appear to be good enough to look past anybody and it not be a problem.

A&M’s DL better come ready to play for that game to be close. If Milton shows up at all, Tenn wins. 
 

Same offense our guys just went up against, but with slightly better skill players. 

[Plorant 798]

16 minutes ago, Hornlover said:

I can see boosters who decide to not throw good money after bad, but this scenario of "I'm going to show Jimbo by not funding recruiting" is just wishcasting.

In the end, isn't that really just the same thing?

[MAGS® 400]

I know several aggies that are pretty high up on the food chain for the boosters and I have been informed that the money for the buyout is already in place.   Generally speaking these individuals are pretty sane, (not about football or anything else related to aggy) but in regards to other aspects of their respective lives.  I don't know if it is bullshit or not but the general consensus even before this game was jimbo has to go.   I personally would love to see the jimbo experiment continue...  

[RomaVicta 29780]

8 minutes ago, MAGS® said:

I know several aggies that are pretty high up on the food chain for the boosters and I have been informed that the money for the buyout is already in place. 

I'm sure you're being honest about what they said, but I wonder how honest they were being with you.

Aggies are sure that they are richer than they are. They are sure of a lot of things about themselves which are clearly untrue. I can imagine some Aggie boosters with "buddies close to the Big Money Ags" claiming to know what's going on.

I think $90MM to dump Jimbo and the boys and maybe three quarters of that same amount promised over the next 8 years for a big-name replacement is a tall order. $150MM over the next 7 years is some serious money, Frank.*

 

*Scarface

Edited October 9, 2023 by RomaVicta

[ClubWhatever 12087]

I'd say that stupid 202_ trophy is a bigger impediment than the money. 

[Fud 9545]

Their boosters were claiming in the middle of last season that they had the money ready to fire and buyout Jimbo