Aggy 2024: Still waiting on the Looch 44

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

Why the fuck would Dan Lanning leave Oregon for College Station? 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

10 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Why the fuck would Dan Lanning leave Oregon for College Station? 

Doesn't seem likely. Oregon is willing to spend money on recruits/transfers and it sounds like Lanning would be a candidate at Bama once Saban retires. 

But aggy just gave Jimbo a $75 million guaranteed contract. They are desperate. What will aggy do this coaching cycle? 

 

[Fondren & Main 6658]

Exactly.  Follow the money.  Especially if they can get some stupid contract like Jimbo got.

[ClubWhatever 12085]

UW will lock up Deboer here shortly

[MonkeyDoughnut 10134]

12 minutes ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I just don't see Elko anywhere near the same league as Deboer even though Deboer definitely has some risk. 

1) Deboer took over a 4-8 Washington team. It's not like he had a powerhouse program when he took over. 

2) Deboer has actually been beating good teams unlike Elko. 

3) Deboer has a history of winning at other schools (lower level of course). Elko has been an assistant almost his entire career. 

I view Elko as a very uninspired and meh hire. 

Here are the 3 recruiting classes prior to Deboer taking over Washington and Elko taking over Duke:

33 - 4&5*s   vs   1 - 4&5*,  I'd expect Washington to fair a little better against top 25

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

3 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Here are the 3 recruiting classes prior to Deboer taking over Washington and Elko taking over Duke:

33 - 4&5*s   vs   1 - 4&5*,  I'd expect Washington to fair a little better against top 25

1) Definitely but that's also why Elko is such a huge risk. The argument is "maybe Elko can beat good teams with better talent." There's no proof at all that this is actually true. It's a complete guess. 

2) I would say most of the top 25 teams that Deboer has been beating out recruit Washington (I.e. the USC, Oregon and Texas of the worlds). 

[MonkeyDoughnut 10134]

26 minutes ago, Coelenterate Fuccboi said:

Why the fuck would Dan Lanning leave Oregon for College Station? 

This is where I'm at. Money? He's making a crap ton now, I would think A&M would have to looking at a $10M+/yr type longer term deal minimum. From what Lanning has said too I think his wife and kids would nix a move. They are in that middle school / high school time frame and tired of moving. I don't think money alone is going to do it and College Station vs Eugene.. c'mon.

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

I think they over correct and hire a really good coach/poor recruiter. 
 

Jimbo was many things, but he was a pain in our asses in recruiting first. I won’t miss that. 

[utfan87 406]

Why not lane kiffin? Both him and Bjork from ole miss and he would also keep everyone on D because Durkin was his DC before going to aggy. 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

8 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

Why not lane kiffin? Both him and Bjork from ole miss and he would also keep everyone on D because Durkin was his DC before going to aggy. 

Probably because there is bad blood between aggy and Kiffin. Kiffin has been taking shots at aggy and Jimbo for years. Rightfully so but aggy is too dumb to realize that Kiffin has only been speaking facts about their program. 

 

[Teamdirtyleg 1058]

4 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Are you trying to tell me this guy isn't the beacon of healthy living?

He has the archetypical aggy man-bod

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

In addition, if the stories are correct, ATM idiots would need to start treading really lightly on the jokes about Sarkisian and booze. 

Hell, many of our own “fans” can’t even keep themselves from stomping all over this subject.

[Junior Bonner 6227]

4 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Are you trying to tell me this guy isn't the beacon of healthy living?

He has the body of god!
 

This god… 

[BigHornedLurker 1894]

49 minutes ago, utfan87 said:

Why not lane kiffin? Both him and Bjork from ole miss and he would also keep everyone on D because Durkin was his DC before going to aggy. 

Because Lane is a like a kid in a candy store with the female talent in Oxford. 

What's he going to do in College Station to get his fix , import them from Austin ? 

 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5341]

2 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

Because Lane is a like a kid in a candy store with the female talent in Oxford. 

What's he going to do in College Station to get his fix , import them from Austin ? 

 

Do you not consider this talent? 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13010]

Christmas wish list:

Aggy waits until after the post season, being led on by the coach of a top 10 team, who’s simply looking for a large increase in pay from his current program, and then ends up hiring another coach who fits their culture. 
 

That culture: A joke

[BigHornedLurker 1894]

15 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Do you not consider this talent? 

Niet

[Longhornlove 4779]

3 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I would take Kiffin over Elko and Traylor too. 

 

 

Shocker considering you have been swinging from Kiffins' nuts for a while now.

[TexasRenegade 2391]

4 hours ago, Beer Drinker said:

How can Kingsbury even be considered?  I know we are talking about ATM but he sucked at Tech and Arizona.  He is a coordinator at best.

Dude he was OC for Johnny, he's got to be great.  

[BurntOrange&White 39486]

3 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Deboer has as much or more risk than Elko. His 4 years of FBS has consistent of having 2 NFL talent QBs. (Haener and soon to be Penix Jr.)

Traylor has Harris

Elko has Leonard

Lanning has Nix

Risk all around.

Daboer is a stud. He’s been successful everywhere and has won national titles at lower levels. 

[Junior Bonner 6227]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Daboer is a stud. He’s been successful everywhere and has won national titles at lower levels. 

If he’s such a stud how come people keep misspelling his name… 

[Fondren & Main 6658]

3 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

If he’s such a stud how come people keep misspelling his name… 

He’s the board’s resident dumbass.  It’s been noted several times.

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

3 minutes ago, Longhornlove said:

Shocker considering you have been swinging from Kiffins' nuts for a while now.

Kiffin is a flawed but good coach. He's about to be the 1st coach at Ole Miss with two double-digit win seasons since the early '60s. 

You surround Kiffin's offense with that talent on defense, I think aggys ceiling would be really high. Much higher than coaches like Traylor and Elko. 

[Pato del Muerto 52320]

5 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

If he’s such a stud how come people keep misspelling his name… 

Because

[nnm 35989]

4 hours ago, UncleSonny said:

If it’s Elko, I wonder if he would take Kevin Johns with him. Would be a pretty meh hire, especially when he probably needs to nail the OC to have any big time success. He was with Kliff at Tech for a year and then Norvel at Memphis before he was hired at Duke. 

He also looks exactly like a penis. 

[Orange&White 5516]

14 minutes ago, Junior Bonner said:

If he’s such a stud how come people keep misspelling his name… 

Maybe because other than a few pedantic fucksticks, most people don’t really care if it is exactly correct and everyone knows who is being discussed?

[Junior Bonner 6227]

3 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Maybe because other than a few pedantic fucksticks, most people don’t really care if it is exactly correct and everyone knows who is being discussed?

Maybe switch to decaf… 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

I never take any coach seriously when they say stuff like this but Lanning does sound pretty definitive here. 

 

[Radical Larry 28521]

Bjork didn’t offer.

[Bevo14 8260]

Looking forward to them wasting months before hiring Elko.

[Dbeasy 14953]

Schumann

[billfromlaketravis 11352]

16 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Looking forward to them wasting months before hiring Elko.

Looch is already framing the narrative. He’s hinting it won’t be a big name. 
 

Like I said they’ll strongly over correct and hire the opposite of Jimbo. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by billfromlaketravis

[MonkeyDoughnut 10134]

15 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

Schumann

He does have 6 National Championships, but I can't see aggy going all in on a 33 year old without head coaching experience.

 

after typing it all in it now seems more plausible

Edited November 14, 2023 by MonkeyDoughnut

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

9 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Like I said they’ll strongly over correct and hire the opposite of Jimbo. 

I don't think it's over correct as much as just not being able to land a top tier candidate. 

[UDontKnow 10439]

5 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Billy is considered one of their most important alumni. Maybe THE most important. They hang on his every word and he is included in absolutely everything they do. Think about that.

 

[Rickylovesweed 14154]

Even Liucci is saying aggy has no chance with Lanning. Welp. 

 

[Scholz 11923]

Yeah of course. He was never a viable option because he turned you down lightning quick.  🙄

0/1.

[Vermin 3042]

6 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

True, but one is coaching at a basketball school, the other a football school, it's not an apple to apple comparison

Or an Apple Cup to Apple Cup comparison

[Rimbo 25752]

2 hours ago, Radical Larry said:

Bjork didn’t offer.

[Michael Knight 12863]

12 hours ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

The fact that Luicci/Texags is that connected to the boosters and university that he would sit on that story is full on aggy crazy.

Or he's lying and trying to make himself look important

[deech 2251]

1 hour ago, Michael Knight said:

Or he's lying and trying to make himself look important

No $9.95'er would ever do that.  

[NoName 16271]

17 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

2) Harris was not generational even for G5.  Good player.  Did stupid shit routinely, witness the Texas game. Anyway you are losing sight, again, of the state of the program when Traylor took over.  Wilson was a good recruiter but they were a mess.  At the very least Traylor has organizational and motivational skills.  And again, his teams play hard.   
 

Both are good coaches and the on field product is likely to be better and more consistent given equal talent.  

here are the UTSA coaches pre Traylor with results:

here are the seasons pre Traylor:

people sitting here and acting like the cake was baked and Traylor just stepped in are ignorant of the actual situation and results. Traylor has lost fewer conference games in the 3+ years he has been there (1) than Frank Wilson lost in his last full month in charge of the team - November 2019 he went 1-3 in conference games including losing his last 3 by 20+ points. Wilson signed an extension in 2017 that made him the highest paid coach in CUSA, then he went 7-17 and got fired.

downplaying the results that Traylor has gotten at UTSA shows you don't know shit about the situation, the team, or their history.

 

 

[NoName 16271]

15 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I just don't see Elko anywhere near the same league as Deboer even though Deboer definitely has some risk. 

1) Deboer took over a 4-8 Washington team. It's not like he had a powerhouse program when he took over. 

2) Deboer has actually been beating good teams unlike Elko. 

3) Deboer has a history of winning at other schools (lower level of course). Elko has been an assistant almost his entire career. 

I view Elko as a very uninspired and meh hire. 

FEI record splits for 2022:

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FEI Record Splits include overall team record (Rec) and record against FBS opponents (FBS), plus records against FEI top-10 opponents (v10), against FEI top-20 opponents (v20), against FEI top-30 opponents (v30), against FEI top-40 opponents (v40), against FEI top-50 opponents (v50), against FEI top-60 opponents (v60), and against all other opponents (vO). Win Differential Ratings represent strength of record as the difference between actual wins and the expected wins an elite team two standard deviations above average would have against the schedule (EWD), between actual wins and the expected wins a good team one standard deviation above average would have against the schedule (GWD), and between actual wins and the expected wins an average team would have against the schedule (AWD).

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2023 FEI record splits:

 

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Edited November 14, 2023 by NoName

[NoName 16271]

13 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Probably because there is bad blood between aggy and Kiffin. Kiffin has been taking shots at aggy and Jimbo for years. Rightfully so but aggy is too dumb to realize that Kiffin has only been speaking facts about their program. 

 

they really are the thinnest skinned fucks in the universe

"yeah here is a guy who is exactly what we would want on paper - battle tested, runs an exciting offense, recruits, brash, outspoken and gettable - but he shit on A&M so he's off the list"

[Vertigo 20257]

13 minutes ago, NoName said:

here are the UTSA coaches pre Traylor with results:

here are the seasons pre Traylor:

people sitting here and acting like the cake was baked and Traylor just stepped in are ignorant of the actual situation and results. Traylor has lost fewer conference games in the 3+ years he has been there (1) than Frank Wilson lost in his last full month in charge of the team - November 2019 he went 1-3 in conference games including losing his last 3 by 20+ points. Wilson signed an extension in 2017 that made him the highest paid coach in CUSA, then he went 7-17 and got fired.

downplaying the results that Traylor has gotten at UTSA shows you don't know shit about the situation, the team, or their history.

 

 

Winless in meaningless bowls, do not want. 

[NoName 16271]

Just now, Vertigo said:

Winless in meaningless bowls, do not want. 

the bowl thing is my favorite part.

1 bowl in 6 years, including NOT BEING SELECTED one year even though they were eligible

traylor is 4 years, 4 bowls.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10134]

Traylor would be great fit, but no way aggy would give him enough time to be successful making the jump up to a P5.

[Yesh 904]

What kind of locker room would Traylor have?  Didn't Jimbo allow the inmates to run the asylum?  No matter who they hire, it will be better for us if they don't overachieve in the first year, and the best way for that to happen would be for a bunch of guys to portal out because the new coach is a disciplinarian.

[ClubWhatever 12085]

After cleaning up the mess in year one Traylor would bring them to being a perpetual 9-3 type team.  He won't be losing to Mississippi schools or shitty Miami teams anymore.   He's a better coach than Sumlin or Jimbo.  Probably not as good of a recruiter, but will get enough good Texas talent to compete in that league.  They would probably make him keep the DT coach so they can still buy NJ mercenaries too.  

[Vertigo 20257]

21 minutes ago, Yesh said:

What kind of locker room would Traylor have?  Didn't Jimbo allow the inmates to run the asylum?  No matter who they hire, it will be better for us if they don't overachieve in the first year, and the best way for that to happen would be for a bunch of guys to portal out because the new coach is a disciplinarian.

I would be better for that program in the long term to have a bunch of those high ranked guys portal out. Jimbo obviously gave no shits about culture or character on his teams, and then wondered why they "couldn't find the inches".